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Old 12-31-2010, 02:18 AM
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It seems Tawnee Stone may have died [she's alive- ed. title]

Link: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1004022 - Link broken. Could be NSFW. Adult industry-themed message board.

That appears to be the owner of her website, and he's giving her real age (rather than the "18" she's been for the last decade ) so this, sadly, is probably legit. The internets are abuzz about a history of similar hoaxes, though. I'm not sure if she's widely-known enough to get a real news story.

It's a damn shame if true. I've, uh, enjoyed a lot of her work over the years.

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Old 12-31-2010, 05:42 PM
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Looks like many people have doubts. Stories like this have been falsified before, in order for them to break away from their persona cleanly.

Having said that, a couple of models for the site I worked for died in prominent and unlikely ways, so it may be true.
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:49 PM
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Well her real name is known, it wouldn't be hard to check the claims.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:13 PM
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It's a damn shame if true. I've, uh, enjoyed a lot of her work over the years.
"years" has been emphasized.

I had to Google her and was fairly appalled at her youthful demeanor. If she is/was only 19, than I am doubly more concerned that she might have been doing work illegally as a teen.

In which case, you should be ashamed of yourself...
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:14 PM
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"years" has been emphasized.

I had to Google her and was fairly appalled at her youthful demeanor. If she is/was only 19, than I am doubly more concerned that she might have been doing work illegally as a teen.

In which case, you should be ashamed of yourself...
She is 28, she probably did start when she was 18 though.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:24 PM
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She is 28, she probably did start when she was 18 though.
Her website claims she is 19.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:29 PM
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Her website claims she is 19.
No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:31 PM
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She gave up doing porn in around 2004, and has been an accountant ever since. So she only did it up to age 22, which explains her eternal teen-ness.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:47 PM
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Her website claims she is 19.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:12 PM
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No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.
Dial it back, Cisco. This is MPSIMS, not the Pit. You are specifically prohibited from insulting other members in this forum.

I am now moving this thread to the Cafe Society, since it apparently deals with an entertainment figure.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:17 PM
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Dial it back, Cisco. This is MPSIMS, not the Pit. You are specifically prohibited from insulting other members in this forum.

I am now moving this thread to the Cafe Society, since it apparently deals with an entertainment figure.
Where is Fried Dough Ho's admonishment for insulting me? The OP clearly stated that her advertised age is fake, and yet I still get pedo accusations leveled at me? And that's cool, but calling them the bullshit that they clearly are isn't cool?

I think you are modding the wrong poster.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:25 PM
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Please read your post which I quoted. Your method of expressing yourself, which is clearly couched in insulting terms, is against the rules. You are free to disagree with Fried Dough Ho. You are not free to insult her.

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Old 12-31-2010, 09:25 PM
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Coming so close on the recent celebrity death hoaxes is suspicious. But that alone proves nothing.

She's also quite a bit less well known than the other hoaxees. But that proves nothing either.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:37 PM
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In which case, you should be ashamed of yourself
She was apparently born in 1982 per the alleged obit. She played a "19-year-old" web-persona for years. As to her look, we have a performer who was probably one of those people who would be getting carded into their late 30s, dressed and made up like a teen.

I get that many people are all "ewww" at the very idea of the "naughty teen" fantasy. But really, if someone's on the Web saying "I'm 19" for the last 8 years, my reasonable assumption is that means she's at least 26 by now; not that she's asking me to imagine her first website went up when she was 12.

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Old 01-01-2011, 01:52 AM
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Seriously, who doesn't know that in porn pigtails means 18, please disregard our crow's feet?
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Old 01-01-2011, 02:17 AM
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While I agree that Cisco's outburst was out of line, I also agree that Fried Dough Ho should have been publicly admonished as well. In her eagerness to accuse Cisco of ephebephilia, she clearly skipped over the part in the OP where specifically referenced Smith's fudged age. It would be nice to know the moderator recognized that.

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Old 01-01-2011, 02:48 AM
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I have a prominent collection of Tawnee Stone material on my hard drive that will be cherished forever. If she’s really gone, my flag flies at half-mast for one of the genre’s greats.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:54 AM
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Seriously, who doesn't know that in porn pigtails means 18, please disregard our crow's feet?
Yeah, porn stars stay 18 until it's no longer convincing and then they become milfs.
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:19 AM
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I'll happily and obligingly apologize for not having read the OP clearly enough before questioning anyone's viewing habits.

But to so vehemently and vulgarly offer such an angry and fervid insult over a frigg'n porn star demonstrates an astonishing lack of perspective in one's life, does it not, gentlemen?
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:18 AM
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I have a prominent collection of Tawnee Stone material on my hard drive that will be cherished forever. If she’s really gone, my flag flies at half-mast for one of the genre’s greats.
Nice to see some sense of protocol maintained in those troubled times, it warms my heart.
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:08 AM
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I'll happily and obligingly apologize for not having read the OP clearly enough before questioning anyone's viewing habits.

But to so vehemently and vulgarly offer such an angry and fervid insult over a frigg'n porn star demonstrates an astonishing lack of perspective in one's life, does it not, gentlemen?
Look, I don't even know who Tawnee Stone is/was (I opened the thread to find out) but don't you think that's more than a little bit disrespectful? For one thing, you impugned his character, and for another thing, one assumes that even the lowly porn star is a human being, almost as good as you or me.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:08 AM
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But really, if someone's on the Web saying "I'm 19" for the last 8 years, my reasonable assumption is that means she's at least 26

I went for eight years at a job that only paid me what the average 19 year-old makes. Now that's obscene.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:30 AM
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I'll happily and obligingly apologize for not having read the OP clearly enough before questioning anyone's viewing habits.

But to so vehemently and vulgarly offer such an angry and fervid insult over a frigg'n porn star demonstrates an astonishing lack of perspective in one's life, does it not, gentlemen?
No. You called him a pedophile. Who the target was had nothing to do with it.

And if I remember correctly, saying bad stuff about the deceased can get you modded. Apparently you think porn stars are somehow less worthy than normal people.

And an apology means nothing if you can't help but put an insult at the end of it.

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Old 01-01-2011, 10:33 AM
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This reminds me. What has Tracie Lords been up to? The last I remember seeing her was on Roseanne.


I shudder to think what her early life was like that her on the road she chose.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:45 AM
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But to so vehemently and vulgarly offer such an angry and fervid insult over a frigg'n porn star demonstrates an astonishing lack of perspective in one's life, does it not, gentlemen?
Yes, because frigg'n porn stars barely count as human, their lives have no value, and it doesn't mater if they die.

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Old 01-01-2011, 11:13 AM
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No. You called him a pedophile. Who the target was had nothing to do with it.
I did not use the "p" word. I implied that IF the girl had in fact been promoting herself for as many years as I mistakingly thought and someone -- anyone -- was that enthralled with her to start a thread bemoaning that fact, then perhaps there should be some shame involved.

My mistake was imposing a social mores against the idolization of pre-teen sexuality upon someone in a public forum and I truly do apologize.


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And an apology means nothing if you can't help but put an insult at the end of it.
You are right. That was wrong of me and I do apologize again. Sincerely to Cisco and anyone else I might have offended. Although I contend there are ways to call someone on their mistake without vulgarities and offensive language. That, to me, was ungentlemanly and uncalled and that was where the Mod stepped in, for which I am grateful.

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And if I remember correctly, saying bad stuff about the deceased can get you modded. Apparently you think porn stars are somehow less worthy than normal people.
I do not think porn stars are less worthy. I think that someone who has spent her "adult" life promoting the allusion of being a pre-teen who is highly sexualized only perpetuates and encourages pedophiles. And THIS very fact is what saddens me and is the genesis of my angst in having someone like this admired. Young girls are being sexualized by society before they are ready and it is people like Tawnee Shore who helps perpetuate this. To me THAT person is less worthy; as are the producers and people in the industry who continue promoting that style of porn.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:38 AM
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I do not think porn stars are less worthy. I think that someone who has spent her "adult" life promoting the allusion of being a pre-teen who is highly sexualized only perpetuates and encourages pedophiles.
I don't think she ever did that. As far as I can see she was always presented as 18-19-20 years old. I don't see any suggestion that she ever pretended to be a pre-teen in any of her photos or movies. Also, it seems that the majority of her work was softcore/ nude without any sex.

cite?
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:47 AM
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Fried Dough Ho, you are perpetuating this argument when I instructed everyone in the thread to drop it. If you want to debate sexualization of teens and porn, please open another thread to do it.

Everyone else: I assumed FDH made a mistake in reading the OP regarding her age, which she admits.

FTR, it is not against policy to "speak ill of the dead" at SD; what you cannot do is insult other posters while doing it. Please remember this.

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Old 01-01-2011, 11:56 AM
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Her website claims she is 19.
The styrofoam ice bucket's full of ice.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:00 PM
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I'll happily and obligingly apologize for not having read the OP clearly enough before questioning anyone's viewing habits.

But to so vehemently and vulgarly offer such an angry and fervid insult over a frigg'n porn star demonstrates an astonishing lack of perspective in one's life, does it not, gentlemen?
Nah, getting upset at being called a pedophile is pretty standard.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:21 PM
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Snarky Kong, a moderator has instructed everyone to let that subject drop. "Everyone" includes you.

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Old 01-01-2011, 12:21 PM
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You are right. That was wrong of me and I do apologize again. Sincerely to Cisco and anyone else I might have offended. Although I contend there are ways to call someone on their mistake without vulgarities and offensive language. That, to me, was ungentlemanly and uncalled and that was where the Mod stepped in, for which I am grateful.
You continue to issue apologies with qualifications attached, which gives the appearance of insincerity.

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Old 01-01-2011, 12:30 PM
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Snarky Kong, a moderator has instructed everyone to let that subject drop. "Everyone" includes you.

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You continue to issue apologies with qualifications attached, which gives the appearance of insincerity.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:32 PM
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cite?
I’m on it. Results forthcoming in about in a week or when my Visa is maxed out, whichever comes first.

Naw, I don’t think she was into that cheerleader or teddy bear and lollipop crap; at least I never saw or have any. She was (or maybe still is) just an adorable cutie with a bodacious bubble butt and a sincerely invitatory smile.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:41 PM
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Here are some strictly factual comments.

There are virtually no underage girls in porn. I don't say this because I'm naive, I say this because I'm cynical. Underage porn prosecutions are a prosecutor's dream. Everybody is on their side. Yet, they don't exist. Probably the last big case was all the way back in the 1980s, with Tracy Lords. Lords was 16 in 1984, yet she was never presented to the public as someone especially young. Even in her Penthouse centerfold, taken pre-porn, she was listed as being 22. Apparently no one in the industry ever thought twice about this. She looked that age. She was not outed until the week after her 18th birthday. Oddly, on that 18th birthday, she made a porn movie for her own production company. When the news hit and all her other movies were pulled from stores and destroyed, this now incredibly valuable film from the most famous porn actress in the world was the only one allowed to be openly sold. Many people raised an eyebrow at this.

Since then, the only national case was that of Joe Francis, the Girls Gone Wild guy. Francis may have his picture in the dictionary next to slimeball, but the concept of filming college girls on spring break, even if they are "college" girls, can't in any way be equated of filming underage girls. Every prosecutor wants Francis. But the one big case had the judge throwing the charges out of court because there was no evidence for them. Francis eventually pled to time served on charges including child abuse and prostitution. I haven't found the exact crimes he's supposed to have committed, but articles say that even his experienced crew were fooled by fake i.d.s good enough to get past them.

From what I've Googled, Tawnee Stone was represented in the same way, as one of a group of girls gathered together at "Lightspeed University." However phony the name, it connotes legal-age sexuality.

None of this is secret. There are many books that cover the Lords case and Francis' arrests were all over the internet. Is somebody somewhere exploiting young girls? Of course, and they always have. But it's a fact that every case I've read about that's come to prosecution involves the girls using fake identification to get into the industry. This is surely a comment on something, but it's not the same thing.

And remember, every case is of an older and already experienced teen. Pre-teen sex is not part of the porn industry. It exists and we can all condemn it. But pre-teen is not teen is not "college" or "university."

Mods, I've tried to make this a factual history that provides some context for why and how Stone was marketed. You are free to delete it if you think it crosses a personal line.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:54 PM
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Nope, you're good, Exapno. Thanks for staying relevant and factual.

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Old 01-01-2011, 12:59 PM
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Fried Dough Ho, you are perpetuating this argument when I instructed everyone in the thread to drop it.
Did you? I don't see your instructions to that point.

I can see where you instructed people to stop the personal insults. That is not the same thing. I cannot see where you told people to not discuss her age.

And for what it's worth, I don't think it's right to forbid such discussion anyway.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:07 PM
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Discussion of her age, real vs. perceived, is okay.

Discussion of the implications of that real/perceived age and what it says about porn audiences in general is okay.

Discussion of what said real/perceived age says about particular individuals participating in this thread is not okay. Let it drop or take it to the Pit.

Discussion of which poster said what about which other poster and whether or not that was an insult can also be taken to the Pit.

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Old 01-01-2011, 01:29 PM
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Discussion of the implications of that real/perceived age and what it says about porn audiences in general is okay.
Isn't that what FDH did in post #26? And then she was accused of not following instructions
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:32 PM
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Fried Dough Ho, your presence is requested in The Pit.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=591313
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Isn't that what FDH did in post #26? And then she was accused of not following instructions
No warnings have been issued, we're just trying to keep the discussion on topic. Take my post in #38 to be an outline of what that topic is.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:52 PM
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Someone is going to have to 'splain this one to me.
Fried Dough Ho's post was very close to a line in "Motel Blues" by Loudon Wainwright III.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:45 PM
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Interesting. I've been a fan of her work for some time now

And nice one Justin Bailey giving FDH the heads up that a pit thread had opened up.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:51 PM
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It does? Damn.

Or perhaps I replied before reading the whole thread to check if calling someone out was deemed unacceptable.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:51 PM
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Discussion of which poster said what about which other poster and whether or not that was an insult can also be taken to the Pit.
No it can't, because we're not allowed to discuss moderator actions in the Pit.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:53 PM
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Moving right along...

Is there any actual evidence that this woman has died?

I mean other than the link in the OP? I'm not really a porn buff; however, I do remember reports when other adult stars died and there doesn't seem to be anything on this other than that blog post.

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Old 01-01-2011, 05:40 PM
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It's beginning to look like a marketing hoax by the guy who runs Lightspeed. A little Googling reveals her real name to be Tammy Saris. She has a Facebook page here and has apparently just set up a Twitter account to say she is alive and well.

According to some threads Google found which contained information on her background by people who knew her, she was a high school cheerleader ( pic, scroll to post #100) from Illinois who left home upon graduation and moved to Phoenix to study accounting, whereby she met the Lightspeed guy and started doing mostly soft-core porn to finance her accounting degree. This sort of adds up because she doesn't seem to have done anything pornographic since her first year or so and Lightspeed has been living off it since. The grapevine by people supposedly in the know is that she has been working as an accountant in Arizona since graduating college.

I do hope she's okay. After seeing photos of her I'm a little smitten myself.
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:58 PM
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After seeing photos of her I'm a little smitten myself.
How can you not be? I’m very happy to hear that she’s alive and well.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:16 PM
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I'll confess to being mildly squicked by a cursory Google Image search of Tawnee Stone. Unlike most faux-jailbait, she looks extremely young (from the neck up) in some of them—like a 12-year-old with tits, basically. Of course she isn't, but something about the authenticity of her appearance creeps me out, when I consider what (and whom) she's designed to appeal to.

But we like what we like, I guess.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:41 PM
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You're certainly entitled to be squicked out if you want to, but I disagree with both your assessment of her looks and of her target audience. She had (and apparently still has) a youthful, fresh-faced and wholesome look, but IMO not a childlike one. Men have been attracted to pretty, youthful and wholesome-looking women since time immemorial. I think too many people are going overboard these days with the pedophile thing and it's distorting their perceptions. A person could go to any college campus anywhere and find girls who have a similar look to hers and no one would think they look like twelve-year-olds.

Then there's the question that if only pedophiles would logically be expected to be attracted to her, who is she supposed to marry and have a life and family with? Should she be expected to wait until she's fifty before she marries because anyone interested in her before then would ipso-facto have to be a pedophile?

I've probably seen the same photos that you have and in not one of them did I think she looked like a twelve-year-old with a grown-up's body.

But we see what we want, I quess.
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