Donald Trump for President?

[Omar Little]

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-obama-cpac-/1

Stranger things have happened.

[Jonathan Chance]

Let me just speak as a journalist...


PLEEZE LET THIS HAPPEN!

[Lord Feldon]

"I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it with something that makes sense for people in business and not bankrupt the country."

And if there's anything he knows about, it's bankruptcy.

[Marley23]

It's not going to happen. Trump "considers" running every election cycle because he loves the press to cover his comments as if he could win (highly unlikely). It's just ego gratification.

[Qin Shi Huangdi]

You have to be kidding me. Who's next? Arnold Schwarzannager? Bill Gates?

Also Mr. Trump regard the PRC as an enemy and apparently advocates stringent tariffs against it.

[The Jay]

Wouldn't you just love to see Trump and Palin battle it out in the primaries though?

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Qin Shi Huangdi

You have to be kidding me. Who's next? Arnold Schwarzannager? Bill Gates?

Arnold is constitutionally ineligible to be president, and Bill has proven to be a far better businessman than Trump. Actually, given the Republican prediliction for successful businessmen as political candidates, I'd expect them to fall all over Gates.

Also Mr. Trump regard the PRC as an enemy and apparently advocates stringent tariffs against it.

So, you feel that supporting the economy of the PRC is more important that supporting the economy of the USA?

[Really Not All That Bright]

Gates has donated slightly more money to Democrats than Republicans, and he's also the largest single donor to family planning-related charities (read: abortion providers). Never gonna happen.

[zamboniracer]

Trump's not going to run for anything for the same reason that Howard Stern never ran for governor, those pesky financial disclosure statements the candidates are required to file.

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Gates has donated slightly more money to Democrats than Republicans, and he's also the largest single donor to family planning-related charities (read: abortion providers). Never gonna happen.

Well, yeah, plus he doesn't scream bloody murder about paying taxes.

[saoirse]

Originally Posted by Frank

Well, yeah, plus he doesn't scream bloody murder about paying taxes.

Didn't he also support the proposal to introduce an income tax in Washington State?

[Regallag_The_Axe]

Originally Posted by The Jay

Wouldn't you just love to see Trump and Palin battle it out in the primaries though?

Oh, man, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report would never run out of jokes.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by saoirse

Didn't he also support the proposal to introduce an income tax in Washington State?

It was to introduce an income tax, but with a corresponding reduction in property taxes. So sort of.

[Morgenstern]

Originally Posted by Frank

....... I'd expect them to fall all over Gates.....

Bill lacks the charisma to win the votes necessary. Donald would have a better chance.

[Robot Arm]

Less charisma that Donald Trump. I don't care how rich you are, a comment like that has got to hurt.

[Cort]

On the other hand, think of all the amazing shit we'd need to invent to work out a feasible way to chisel that quiff into Mount Rushmore. It'd be the best thing to happen to science since the Apollo missions.

[Czarcasm]

And who is going to be his running mate? Find out tonight on.....Celebrity Vice-President!

[Gukumatz]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

And who is going to be his running mate? Find out tonight on.....Celebrity Vice-President!

Gordon Ramsay.

[F. U. Shakespeare]

Trump does this every ten years or so.

In 1988, the enemy was the Japanese - they were kicking our butts economically, and Trump proposed charging them for the military defense we were providing.

He "ran" again in 1999 (I think), proposing a one-time tax on wealth to pay the national debt off.

Now it's the Chinese, and he promises never to raise taxes on Americans.

Trump's positions over the years are a good indicator of what the average dumbshit American is most angry about.

Gore Vidal said that for some people, after a certain age, litigation replaces sex. Trump has apparently run out of people to sue, so he runs for president.

[Wendell Wagner]

zamboniracer writes:

> Trump's not going to run for anything for the same reason that Howard Stern
> never ran for governor, those pesky financial disclosure statements the
> candidates are required to file.

Nobody's entirely sure how much Trump is worth. Trump himself claims more than $5 billion. Forbes has him tied with 48 other people for being the 488th richest person in the world with $2 billion. It's possible that even that is an overestimate. He's constantly been engaged in schemes in which his credit is overextended by any reasonable financial analysis. I wouldn't be too surprised to learn someday when he dies or some circumstance forces him to do a complete accounting of his assets that he's only worth about $100 million, the amount of money he's made in his various TV shows.

[F. U. Shakespeare]

Originally Posted by Wendell Wagner

(snip) I wouldn't be too surprised to learn someday when he dies or some circumstance forces him to do a complete accounting of his assets that he's only worth about $100 million, the amount of money he's made in his various TV shows.

When he had his financial problems ca. 1990, Spy magazine claimed that the divorce from Ivana was what triggered everything, basically starting a 'run on the bank'.

When Trump first made noises about running for president in 1988, his image was much less buffonish than it is today - people forget how much gravitas he tried to project. It was also an era where populist resentment of extreme wealth was at a low. Ten years later, Trump was taken much less seriously by most of the public. I thought it was absurd for him to ask people to consider him as president. But today, with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Venture able to get elected, and porn stars running in special elections, Trump might have as much of a shot as he ever did, which is to say, not much. Even if he were serious about it, which he isn't.

[humanafterall]

I dunno. The guy clearly knows a thing or two about money, given that he has a net worth of $2.7 billion. If he actually ran, he could fix a few of our financial woes. I remember him saying that NAFTA was a bad idea, and 12 years later, he is correct as to how NAFTA and other foreign trade agreements have allowed companies to ship jobs away and give them to Chinese kids who work for as much as $5.00 a day, while Big Business rakes in more profits. Let me be very clear: I'm not against Big Government(nor do I support it). I just don't like big CEO's strolling onto Capitol Hill with their money and their lobbyists, and getting lawmakers to do whatever they want them to do.

[joebuck20]

Originally Posted by humanafterall

I dunno. The guy clearly knows a thing or two about money, given that he has a net worth of $2.7 billion. If he actually ran, he could fix a few of our financial woes. I remember him saying that NAFTA was a bad idea, and 12 years later, he is correct as to how NAFTA and other foreign trade agreements have allowed companies to ship jobs away and give them to Chinese kids who work for as much as $5.00 a day, while Big Business rakes in more profits. Let me be very clear: I'm not against Big Government(nor do I support it). I just don't like big CEO's strolling onto Capitol Hill with their money and their lobbyists, and getting lawmakers to do whatever they want them to do.

Unfortunately, he also knows a thing or two about bankruptcy, from personal experience.

[Starving Artist]

Take a look at Trump's Wiki page and consider the extraordinary number and range of Trump's accomplishments and all that he's involved in now, and then decide for yourself whether a man like that would know enough accomplished and capable people, and posess the qualities needed, to cope with the complexities of life in the White House.

Now, having said that, I still don't think that Trump will actually run for office. As I've said, I think he loves what he does too much and that he would find White House life stifling. But there's little doubt in my mind that he would do a fine job were he to be elected.

[Stately Greek Automaton]

Originally Posted by joebuck20

Unfortunately, he also knows a thing or two about bankruptcy, from personal experience.

Given that, who better to guide America in the coming years?

[Sage Rat]

'America, Trump said, is becoming "the laughingstock of the world."'

Yeeeaah, I don't think that hiring a TV show host is going to help with that.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

And who is going to be his running mate? Find out tonight on.....Celebrity Vice-President!

His toupee, of course.

[Tom Scud]

Originally Posted by humanafterall

I dunno. The guy clearly knows a thing or two about money, given that he has a net worth of $2.7 billion.

+/- 3 billion

[BobLibDem]

But was that thing on his head born in the US? That's what I want to know.

[TruCelt]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...src=nl_lunchln Trump comes in second in theoretical Repub Primary.

It's getting serious.

Most outlets seem to have the choices down to : Romney, Trump, Palin, or Gingrich.

Seriously, Republicans, you can do better. For the sake of all of us, get it together! ! !

[Tom Scud]

From the survey linked in the article above:

Mitt Romney 21
Mike Huckabee 17
Donald Trump 17
Newt Gingrich 11
Sarah Palin 10
Tim Pawlenty 6
Michele Bachmann 5
Rick Santorum 3
Haley Barbour 1

Yikes.

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by TruCelt

Trump comes in second in theoretical Repub Primary.

It's getting serious.

Not really. And in any case nobody is voting in any primaries for another nine months, and there's no big "GOP primary."

[TruCelt]

Huckabee. I knew someone was missing from that list.

But why do you say "Not really" ?

Don't you think "tied for second" indicates a serious contender?

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by TruCelt

Don't you think "tied for second" indicates a serious contender?

It reflects name recognition and nothing else. Trump's a billionaire real estate developer, TV show host, and a self-promoter of enormous proportions. He's got that in spades - and not much else. I am still skeptical he's going to run at all. The Iowa caucuses are on February 6th and the intensity of the campaign is still pretty low.

[TruCelt]

I have to say that at least since the Reagan nomination, it's been my contention that the Republican Party decides it's candidates using two main criteria: Name recognition and controllability.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.

[Skammer]

It's interesting that the candidate who came out on top in this poll is the one of the few GOP candidates who, to my knowledge, has not questioned the President's birthplace. I'm not sure what Gingrich has said about it.

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by TruCelt

I have to say that at least since the Reagan nomination, it's been my contention that the Republican Party decides it's candidates using two main criteria: Name recognition and controllability.

'Controllability' by who? The parties are less powerful than ever - the GOP especially since they're trying to keep up with the Tea Party - and it's the voters who pick the candidates. McCain won almost by process of elimination when Giuliani and Romney and Huckabee couldn't win over the party faithful.

[pkbites]

What are his positions on the issues?

Would he nuke the gay whales?

[kunilou]

Mr. Trump's personality aside, CEOs tend to be uniquely unsuited to be President. A CEO has ultimate authority over a large organization focused on a single thing, making widgets or doing deals or whatever. And when Mr. CEO becomes President CEO, he snaps his fingers and says "Let's do this," only to have Harry Reid or John Boehner or John Roberts or whoever look straight at him and say "Screw you. I don't work for you."

[GIGObuster]

Originally Posted by Frank

Arnold is constitutionally ineligible to be president, and Bill has proven to be a far better businessman than Trump. Actually, given the Republican prediliction for successful businessmen as political candidates, I'd expect them to fall all over Gates.

That is very unlikely, he has been on the record saying that he is not a believer or an agnostic, that alone will kill him with a good chunk of the Republican base.

[marial]

I would love to see Trump as President. He is exactly what America needs. He's ruthless, crude, and a very schrewd businessman. Look at what we have for President now...please. Obama is a moron. Trump has everything it takes to put this country back on the right track. He's right though. The United States is supposed to be a superpower of a nation yet we have so many countries laughing right in our face. Face it, we're not what we used to be and someone has to whip us back in shape.

[ZebraShaSha]

Originally Posted by marial

I would love to see Trump as President. He is exactly what America needs. He's ruthless, crude, and a very schrewd businessman. Look at what we have for President now...please. Obama is a moron. Trump has everything it takes to put this country back on the right track. He's right though. The United States is supposed to be a superpower of a nation yet we have so many countries laughing right in our face. Face it, we're not what we used to be and someone has to whip us back in shape.

Hahahahahahaha!

[jsgoddess]

Originally Posted by marial

He's ruthless, crude, and a very schrewd businessman.

Bolding mine.

I think this is a secret message to Trump's Pennsylvania Dutch cabal.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by jsgoddess

Bolding mine.

I think this is a secret message to Trump's Pennsylvania Dutch cabal.

I think you may be onto something:


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[TruCelt]

Originally Posted by marial

. . . Obama is a moron. . .

There are a great many legitimate criticisms available to you if you wish to say bad things about President Obama. The choice of the word "moron", I'm afraid, is so far from the mark that it only reflects badly on the chooser. Even if we ignore the clinical meaning of the word ( http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx )and attempt to squeeze by on the 20-year-old slang use of the word, it simply can not be stretched to apply.

Morons do not get accepted into Harvard Law School. And if by some strange combination of conspiracy plots and preferences a moron did get accepted into Harvard, he or she would surely never be made Editor of the Harvard Law Review. And even granting the astoundingly low possibility that a stupid person could make it that far, are you really expecting us to believe that a stupid person could graduate with a Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School, Magna Cum Laude?

[gonzomax]

Originally Posted by TruCelt

There are a great many legitimate criticisms available to you if you wish to say bad things about President Obama. The choice of the word "moron", I'm afraid, is so far from the mark that it only reflects badly on the chooser. Even if we ignore the clinical meaning of the word ( http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx )and attempt to squeeze by on the 20-year-old slang use of the word, it simply can not be stretched to apply.

Morons do not get accepted into Harvard Law School. And if by some strange combination of conspiracy plots and preferences a moron did get accepted into Harvard, he or she would surely never be made Editor of the Harvard Law Review. And even granting the astoundingly low possibility that a stupid person could make it that far, are you really expecting us to believe that a stupid person could graduate with a Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School, Magna Cum Laude?

Actually you can make that claim. if you are a moron.

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by marial

Obama is a moron.

Originally Posted by gonzomax

Actually you can make that claim. if you are a moron.

Since someone has already made that claim in this thread, you are insulting marial personally with this post. Don't do this again.

[Czarcasm]

Trump: master of race relations.

*snerk*

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by marial

The United States is supposed to be a superpower of a nation yet we have so many countries laughing right in our face.

Nobody will dare laugh in our face when our President is a reality show host. Not to mention the owner of the most famous hairpiece since Andy Warhol.

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by marial

The United States is supposed to be a superpower of a nation yet we have so many countries laughing right in our face. Face it, we're not what we used to be and someone has to whip us back in shape.

This is a terrible reason to vote for anyone. It's basically about self-esteem.