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Old 03-19-2011, 03:52 PM
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My dog has lost his appetite, seems fine all other ways...

A lack of appetite in a dog always make my blood run cold.

My dog is a vibrantly healthy, muscular mutt, mostly lab I think, about 65 pounds. He normally has a robust appetite and a very keen interest in food. All the time, even after having a full meal. He normally does not steal any kind of food or trash unless it is left pretty much on the ground, exposed.

I feed him kibble mixed with some animal fat, maybe a little peanut butter. I feed him via treat dispensers to give him something to do and slow down his eating.

He's a little over 4 years old.

This morning I gave him a hun of pork crackling and while he took it, he seemed a little indifferent. I thought maybe it was too hard. I haven't checked to see if he actually ended up eating it or not.

Just now he was hovering around while I fixed lunch, so I filled a couple of treat dispensers with his kibble and put them down...and he ignored them.

Then I sat at my computer with some macadamia nuts. I dropped one, so I picked it up to give to him, and he took it, then spit it out.

Aside from the appetite, he seems perfectly fine. He's alert, attentive, tail-waggy. I haven't tried taking him out to play to see if he's interested in that yet.

Here's the thing: the only time in my experience that any of MY dogs (who have all been food-motivated) has ever lost their appetite, it was a Very Bad Thing. But they also usually displayed some other symptoms as well.

So far he's not. Are there any relatively benign reasons an otherwise food-driven dog would suddenly be disinterested in food? A little tummy upset that will go away? Something else?

I'm feeling a little panicky. Primarily because I want him to be well, but also because I don't want to have to come up with a lot of money for the vet.

Thanks.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:11 PM
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I understand that vet bills are often expensive and usually the need to see a vet is unexpected (except for yearly check-ups which I hope are planned for). Still, if your pet's off behavior lasts more than two days I'd get to the vet asap. Best case, you spent some money but you find out it's no big deal. Second best - there's a problem but you caught it early enough to stem further complications/expense. If he's seriously ill you'll have to deal with it sooner or later.
Good luck.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:20 PM
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Take a look at his mouth. He might have a toothache, or a sore or blister. Is he drinking?

Other than that, I got nuthin'. Except not to wait too long to have him checked out. I don't know how long is "too long" though.

Good luck. I hope it's nothing serious.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:37 PM
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Macadamia nuts are toxic to dogs.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:48 PM
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Yeah, I got that news. Fortunately he didn't eat any.

His energy is great, we had a perfect play session, all systems go. I guess I'll just keep an eye...
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:58 PM
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Is it really hot there? I notice my cats get a little off their feed when it's hot outside and in the house (we don't have air conditioning).
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:22 PM
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I'd take him for a long walk and watch for evidence of an upset stomach. I'd also crate him or keep him in my room so I could response quickly to evidence of distress.

Keep in mind that dogs do not like hot food, prefer nice fatty human food to healthy carboard biscuits, and sometimes are smart enough to not eat poison. It might just be coincidence.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:02 PM
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Vet soon if no change.

Patrol the house and look to see if he's gotten into something, eaten it, and spoiled his appetite.

Also, watch him like a hawk for other symptoms.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:07 PM
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How old is his kibble? My cats won't eat stale kibble (which can happen if you buy too big a bag). They are also terribly picky about which kibble they like. Have you tried him on any treat that he normally goes nuts for, whether he's full or not? If either of my cats ever turns down tuna, I'll know there's definitely something wrong besides normal finickyness.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:30 PM
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Is he drinking water normally?
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:55 AM
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Well, look slike maybe he was just having a little off moment in life. By late this afternoon everything was back to normal. Once he knew we were having fried chicken, he got over himself. Then he cleaned out his treat toys. Just an aberration I guess, or maybe the play session helped loosen something up inside him! In any case, my Handsome Black Boyfriend (tm) is back in perfect working order...
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:13 AM
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Glad to hear he's back to his old self. Now that the concern is over, you do know the rule about posting pictures, don't you?

But only if you want to. What's his name, by the way?

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Old 03-20-2011, 05:23 AM
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My dog does it all the time. Usually, she eats breakfast between 7am and 8am, but sometimes she'll leave the kibble until the afternoon.

If you are like me, back in the 70's the advice was dogs should only eat one meal a day. I thought it was strange that dogs should eat twice a day and that it would lead to overeating. However, my dog has done a great job managing her own diet. She eats when she needs to, and it's not always twice a day.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:12 AM
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Glad he's back to behaving the way you'd normally expect Stoid - a relief, no doubt!

But jeeeez! "...kibble mixed with some animal fat, maybe a little peanut butter"? "...a *hun of pork crackling.."??

And offering him a macadamia??

I'm no vet, and aside from the near nut misadventure (that I get is the news you 'got') what you proffer as (what I can only assume is) his regular diet, sounds like a recipe for pancreatitis.

Might be useful to reconsider his diet - even if all he had today was a stomach ache.



*as a measurement, I have no idea what this is, but it sounds big 'n chunky
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:39 AM
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This happens all the time for my dogs and it's never been an indication of a serious issue.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:03 PM
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This happens all the time for my dogs and it's never been an indication of a serious issue.
Yep. Usually it's a combination: not eating AND puking, not eating AND limping, etc.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:14 PM
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Yay! Glad to hear.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:53 PM
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If you are like me, back in the 70's the advice was dogs should only eat one meal a day. I thought it was strange that dogs should eat twice a day and that it would lead to overeating. However, my dog has done a great job managing her own diet. She eats when she needs to, and it's not always twice a day.
Well, I don't leave food down because that would undermine the usefulness of food for training purposes. But that
once a day" thing is a recipe for bloat and death, so no thanks! That's part of why I use the treat dispensers, to make sure there's no chance that wolfing down a big meal will sneak up and kill him.



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But jeeeez! "...kibble mixed with some animal fat, maybe a little peanut butter"? "...a *hun of pork crackling.."??

what you proffer as (what I can only assume is) his regular diet, sounds like a recipe for pancreatitis.
I read up on the pancreatitis, and he's not much of a candidate, being a biggish, insanely fit and healthy dog of mixed DNA (Really: slim and solid from stem to stern, crazy fast and agile as a cat, able to leap tall rosebushes in a single bound to snatch fast moving toys at the end of bullwhips.) My vet, whom I just about worship for a bunch of reasons, told me years ago not to buy into the idea that dogs need "dog food" - absolutely not. He recommended a diet of people food, leaving out the trashy stuff, and fat is fine.

I use the fat to make the kibble interesting. I put on rubber gloves and dump a big spoonful of bacon fat on top, or toss the kibble in the pan I cooked with, then plunge my hands in to rub the fat on the kibble bits before I stuff the toys.

The peanut butter is again, a spoonful. I slather that on the lining of the toys. Dogs love peanut butter.

I love the fact that he can eat anything: my purebred Golden, Maggie was highly allergic, and I had to feed her the most hypoallergenic food, at some ungodly price. If I didn't her paws would turn blood red with inflamation, and she'd get 50-cent piece scabs all over.

And because she couldn't have anything but that, neither could my other Golden, Tucker, who for some reason had a tendency to fat. He wasn't very overweight, but more than he should have been, given his diet.

Then I got Preston after Tucker died (suddenly from complications of his epilepsy medication...if you have a dog with epilepsy and hes' on the liquid med I can't recall the name of, STOP if he develops anything that looks like a cough. STOP IMMEDIATELY.) and he was Mr. Cast Iron Stomach.

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Glad to hear he's back to his old self. Now that the concern is over, you do know the rule about posting pictures, don't you?

But only if you want to. What's his name, by the way?
His name is Preston, which is an homage to my boy Tucker (Preston Tucker, automobile inventor). His full name is Mr. Preston Digitation. Yuk.

And he's very handsome. VERY. I will post some pics...
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Old 03-20-2011, 05:53 PM
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Okay Stoid - I'm confused.

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My vet, whom I just about worship for a bunch of reasons, told me years ago not to buy into the idea that dogs need "dog food" - absolutely not. He recommended a diet of people food, leaving out the trashy stuff, and fat is fine.

I use the fat to make the kibble interesting.
That diet of 'people food' - am I missing out on my kibble and bacon fat?
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:14 PM
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I agree with Stoid that it doesn't seem reasonable to expect a carnivore to be happy on a diet soley are cardboard. I watch the salt, though.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:22 PM
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Okay Stoid - I'm confused.



That diet of 'people food' - am I missing out on my kibble and bacon fat?

Just because kibble is easy; it's too hard to come up with enough food for him on a day to day basis otherwise. If I have it to spare, he gets it - and I always share at least a little of my food: eggs, meat, cheese. But I've always got kibble for him.
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:44 PM
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Glad to hear he's back to his old self. Now that the concern is over, you do know the rule about posting pictures, don't you?

But only if you want to. What's his name, by the way?
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you my handsome black boyfriend!
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:35 PM
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That is a very handsome dog indeed! Glad he's okay.
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:22 PM
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Thank you! He's excellent...all that tongue action is panting from playing. His Rottie brown shows up incredibly well inthe photos, it's not that noticable in person unless it's bright sunlight.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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Awwww - he's shnoogtastic!!

Give him a belly rub from the Wonderland household!
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Old 03-25-2011, 08:08 PM
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Beautiful dog.

Hard to believe he ever passed up food.

Does he ever argue with you? He looks argumentative, like mine.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:26 PM
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Could someone else be feeding him? When I was a kid, we had one of the few dogs on the block and the only big one (Collie/Shepherd mix). Our neighbors used to use him as a disposal for their leftovers.

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Markxxx) Please don't feed our dog he's too fat
Neighbor) Oh but he looks so hungry
I recall awhile back a poster on her complained of a cat not eating and found out he had mice in his basement and the cat was ignoring her food and eating the mice.

So if you're sure the dogs not being fed by anyone else, and he's drinking water, give him a day or so and if it's not back to normal, to the vet Mr Dog goes.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:25 PM
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Awwww - he's shnoogtastic!!

Give him a belly rub from the Wonderland household!
Done! and he thanks you very much and asks you to please send weasels. (the toy on the bullwhip... he's a damn cat!)

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Beautiful dog.

Hard to believe he ever passed up food.

Does he ever argue with you? He looks argumentative, like mine.
Oh no! Never ever ever ever ever. He's amazingly gentle and delicate of spirit. He'll slink off at a raised eyebrow. He's a love. Wouldn't dream of arguing if his life depended on it. Not with me, at least. Other dogs, he might scuffle. He loves 'em, but he can get a little tense, and that's my fault, because I get tense.

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Old 03-31-2011, 01:48 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you my handsome black boyfriend!
He's very handsome, indeed. And since I asked you to post his picture, I would be remiss in not showing off my handsome black gentleman.

Here's his photo from the rescue group website. He has such puppy dog eyes here. He was about 11 months old when I adopted him.

Here he is after he's had time to settle in.

Here he is in his favorite location on the couch.

And here's a photo I took of him about a year ago on my iPhone.

The rescue group said he's a purebred Lab. I think his legs are a little too short to be fully Labrador, but there's no mistaking him as mostly Lab. He's jet black all over.

The rescue group named him Brutus, but I didn't think he looked tough enough to be a Brutus. I renamed him Brewster, but I mainly call him Brew, which is probably what I'd have called him anyway if I had kept Brutus as his name. He'll be six years old next month and has definitely wormed his way into my heart. He's obedient, good-natured and Cesar Milan would probably point to him as a role model for other dogs.
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:34 PM
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Here he is in his favorite location on the couch.
Spoiled! Shocking!

But classically Lab and classically handsome indeed!

A lot of folks tried to tell me Preston was a lab, and he may have a dash in his DNA, but I don't see how anyone can look at that face and coloring and declare "Lab!" - of course, his Rottietude isn't really visible in anything but the brightest light, and his head looks more like Brew's in real life, the photos emphasize the underlying blockiness of his skull.


I also don't think he's lab because of his personality: He's weird. Labs and Goldens are notoriously NOT-weird, at least in the sense that I mean: they are very readable, very classic Doggie, no guile, straightforward expressions. Preston is more...complex than that.
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