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Old 03-22-2011, 01:21 AM
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Can you get HIV from having a bodily fluid touch a bedsheet?

I recently slept in a generally unsanitary place where someone infected with HIV might've slept before me (a day or two at the least, definitely not minutes before).

They gave me new bedsheets but I don't know whether they were properly washed.

I didn't notice any blood stains.
Regardless of how the bodily fluid was secreted, if it touched the bedsheet and the secreting mechanism at the same time, is there a chance that I may have contracted HIV?

I recently developed something resembling canker sores although it could be hairy leukoplakia.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:26 AM
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I recently slept in a generally unsanitary place where someone infected with HIV might've slept before me (a day or two at the least, definitely not minutes before).

They gave me new bedsheets but I don't know whether they were properly washed.

I didn't notice any blood stains.
Regardless of how the bodily fluid was secreted, if it touched the bedsheet and the secreting mechanism at the same time, is there a chance that I may have contracted HIV?

I recently developed something resembling canker sores although it could be hairy leukoplakia.
I am not a doctor etc etc, but:

Hairy leukoplakia? More likely googleitis. Even if you were infected with HIV by receptive anal intercourse with a gigolo two weeks ago, you still wouldn't have hairy leukoplakia now.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:49 AM
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HIV dies very quickly outside a human host. If he shed any viral particles onto that bed, they would have been inactivated long before you slept on them.

Also, it would take a while before you became immunocompromised enough to start seeing opportunistic infections like hairy leukoplakia show up. It is far more likely you just got a canker sore.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:52 AM
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HIV is a fragile, temperamental little bug without a protein coat, and can't live normally live outside the body for more than a few minutes, so a few days and it's definitely dead.

Even if this were some sort of fresh secretion that had HIV in it, it would first, have to touch an open sore or wound, and, second, even if it did, you'd have to be extremely unlucky, because your immune system would probably destroy it before it even got into a cell and started reproducing.

Finally, even if, by some terrible chance, you were infected a few weeks ago, like Shmendrik said, the disease wouldn't have spread so fast that you'd be getting opportunistic infections now.

If you're concerned about it, you should get tested, of course, but I think you're pretty safe.
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:26 AM
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1) If you are worried about your health, see a doctor. Boilerplate.

2) To get HIV in such a manner, the fluids would probably have to be less than a half hour fresh, and they'd also have to come into contact with your naked orifices (vagina/mouth/anus/sore/cut). Even then, unlikely. Certainly, old dry stains contacting with your skin would do nothing whatsoever.

3) HIV can take up to 6 months to even be detectable, let alone symptomatic.

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Old 03-22-2011, 09:12 AM
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I thought we got rid of this kind of ignorance about HIV in the 80's. Seriously? Infection from bedsheets?
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:11 AM
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:55 PM
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I thought we got rid of this kind of ignorance about HIV in the 80's. Seriously? Infection from bedsheets?
He didn't know, so he asked. I think that's admirable, and I don't see the point in drawing attention to the fact that he didn't know before he asked. None of us know things until we find them out.
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:16 PM
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He didn't know, so he asked. I think that's admirable, and I don't see the point in drawing attention to the fact that he didn't know before he asked. None of us know things until we find them out.
If he can google "hairy leukoplakia", he can google "HIV transmission".
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:25 PM
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If he can google "hairy leukoplakia", he can google "HIV transmission".
Sure, but people can google a lot of things they ask in GQ.
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:42 PM
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Sure, but people can google a lot of things they ask in GQ.
You're correct - it really IS taking longer than we thought.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:18 PM
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HIV is a lot less contagious than people think it is.

A blood transfusion from someone who is HIV positive has a 90% chance of causing infection. That's the route with the highest chance of infection.

At number two is being born to a HIV infected mother, with a 25% chance of passing infection to the baby.

Everything else has pretty low numbers. Though the numbers add up if you keep doing it.

Receptive anal sex has about a 1-8% chance of passing the infection.
Straight sex has about a 0.1% to 1% chance of passing the infection.
Needle sharing has a bout a 0.6% chance of passing the infection.
Oral sex has about a 0.0005 to 0.001% chance of passing the infection.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:09 AM
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So testing done between now and 6 months from now will be totally ineffective?

Would penile secretion (unintentional) coming into contact with the underwear, which the fluid may or may not have penetrated (or rather, the bedsheets' germs may or may not have penetrated) be a likely host to such infections?
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:16 AM
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Would penile secretion (unintentional) coming into contact with the underwear, which the fluid may or may not have penetrated (or rather, the bedsheets' germs may or may not have penetrated) be a likely host to such infections?
I've read this, like, 6 times and I still have no idea what it means. It sounds like you're asking if penile secretions can host HIV. The answer is, of course, yes.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:17 AM
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What suprises most people is how hard it is to catch. For instance, there's never been a documented case of HIV infection spread through sharing even toothbrushes.

HIV is not very hardy outside the body.

What interesting is the OP said he might have a hairy leukoplakia, which is caused by an herpes virus and also associated with AIDS.

Which goes to show you a virus doesn't have to be deadly, like HIV, a virus can just cause you misery for years and year and years, like the various herpes viruses can
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:24 AM
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:57 AM
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:33 AM
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The numbers of infections are in the millions, world wide, for decades. None of the cases on record were from any sort of "ew, I touched it!" contacts, even with a known HIV positive source.

None.

Not a single one of millions of cases.

It's the sex part. Fluids from one body entering another body, and even in that case, it has to be semen, milk, blood, or lymph, and it has to enter the body through the mouth, anus, vagina, or an open cut or sore (that last has single digit numbers out of all those millions, and no one really believes the folks who said it was their only contact.)

The numbers of people who lie about their sexual habits is far larger than the numbers of entirely unexplained HIV transmissions.

It's the fucking, mostly, and much higher rates with butt fucking, except two of the primarily African strains.

You are much more likely to have contracted Black Death from those sheets. Way more likely. Still unlikely enough to be totally silly to even think about, but much more likely than HIV.

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Old 03-23-2011, 01:34 AM
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
So if you had sex with somebody through a sheet or something? The person put a sheet over his penis and then ejaculated into you, you mean? The bedsheet would be too porous to stop either semen or the virus. So don't use a bedsheet as a condom.

On the other hand, if somebody who was HIV+ ejaculated on a bedsheet, and then you slept on the bedsheet a day later, you'd be safe, because, like I said, the HIV virus just can't live that long.

If you're not too embarrassed, why not tell us exactly what happened?
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:47 AM
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
OK to put it blunt: the scenario as described in the OP - unlikely in the extreme that a person would be exposed to, much less contract HIV.

The question as quoted above is so garbled I don't really follow what you mean:
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...if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time,...
You are not being very clear. What opening are you referring to?
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:39 AM
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
This is confusing as heck. Sexual questions are asked here all the time. You can just ask in plain teenager language.

How could a penile secretion not touch the penis in the first place...?

Are there two different sets of bodily fluids involved?

Are you saying an HIV+ person ejaculated on a bedsheet, and then a day later you ejaculated on the same spot where he ejaculated and now you're wondering if zombie HIV can travel up a dangling strand of cum and into your body...? That sounds ridiculous, but I can think of no other way to parse what you're saying...
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:22 PM
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That's how I read it, too. I'd be curious to know what the real meaning was. (Um, ineedhelp, if that IS what you meant, then: no. No, you cannot get AIDS the way Reply described.)

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Old 03-23-2011, 12:43 PM
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It's the sex part. Fluids from one body entering another body, and even in that case, it has to be semen, milk, blood, or lymph, and it has to enter the body through
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So you are claiming vaginal fluids can't transmit AIDS?
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:51 PM
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So you are claiming vaginal fluids can't transmit AIDS?
It's at the very least extremely unlikely to do so. Last I checked the stats, lesbians who did not engage in IV drug use were the smallest of the infected categories.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:05 PM
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
I'm sorry, what? Did you stick your dick into a pool of jizz you found on your hotel sheets?

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Old 03-23-2011, 01:21 PM
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At number two is being born to a HIV infected mother, with a 25% chance of passing infection to the baby.
And that's assuming she (the HIV+ mother) didn't receive any treatment during her pregnancy. If we know she's HIV+ and put her on the right kinds of medicine, the chance for transmission to her baby go way, way down - some sources say transmission from treated mother to fetus is as low as 2%. The more conservative ones say about 8%. Still, that's a hell of a reduction in risk! That's why, no matter how scared or in denial pregnant women are, we really really really want them to get an HIV test. It really does make a huge difference in transmission rates for the baby.
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Ok to put it blunt, if the penile secretion touched the bedsheet and the penis and the opening at the same time, can the virus be absorbed into the system through the penile secretion?
I'm also having trouble parsing this, but it sounds like you're worried that someone who is HIV+ ejaculated ("came") on the bedsheets and then you slept on them the next night in your underwear. And you wonder if the HIV virus could have gotten through your underwear into your urethra ("pee-hole") and infected you that way? The answer is no.

You get infected through cuts, scrapes and other openings that bleed, not through a healthy, intact urethra. That's why it's harder, actually, for men to get HIV from women than for women to get HIV from men, and fairly easy for gay men who have anal sex to get it from each other. Penis in vagina sex and anal sex cause small tears in the vagina or anus, and the HIV infects through those tears.
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:23 PM
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HIV isn't spread through casual contact. That includes touching things that might have come into contact with bodily fluids from an HIV-positive person. HIV is not transmitted through bed sheets. If it were, we'd have a lot more cases where people got HIV from family members. We don't see that.
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Old 03-23-2011, 03:48 PM
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So testing done between now and 6 months from now will be totally ineffective?
No, the testing will be an accurate reading of your body's HIV status at that time. But a negative (no-HIV) result could mean that you have been infected with HIV, but your body is not showing signs of this infection yet. So you can't be absolutely sure that you were not infected until you get a negative test result from a test taken 6 months later.

Taking a test earlier than 6 months is still a good idea, because:
- if the test is unfortunately positive, they can start treatment immediately (and the sooner they do so, the better for you).
- if the test is negative, you can be at least partly relieved of your worries about this.
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Old 03-23-2011, 07:24 PM
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So you are claiming vaginal fluids can't transmit AIDS?
Theoretically they can, if they enter the blood stream of the recipient, slightly more likely if the person who is HIV+ is on her period, with the presence of blood, but only slightly more. Evidently, although not too many people in the "They deserve it, because they sin." camp of epidemiology have drawn the obvious conclusion. AIDS is God's way of saying Lesbians are OK.

Two of the many strains of HIV, mostly prevelent in Central, and Southern Africa seem to have much higher transmission rates among heterosexuals, especially higher than other strains among heterosexual women. The reasons are not entirely understood, and may be cultural, and reflect reluctance to accurately report sexual activity. However even these particular strains are not specifically more contagious, or robust in the face of normal hygine.

Picking up reports of indivudual cases and deciding on risk factors based on them is fairly poor epidemiology. It's not like the forty million known cases of transmission that are documented should be ignored, in favor of a priest who says, "I never had sex with that man!"

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:27 AM
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OP, where did you get the idea that you might be at risk for HIV from sleeping on dirty sheets? That's an idea that's been discredited by just about everybody who knows anything about HIV for the last 20 years, at least.

I wouldn't consider the source of that information to be a reliable source. I'd be rather skeptical of any future information I got from the same source, if I were you.

If you thought up that idea on your own, do you have other worries about cleanliness, contamination, or germs, more than most people? If you do, it's possible you might have an anxiety disorder. Anxiety disorders are treatable, and untreated anxiety disorders are not pleasant to live with.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:52 PM
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I'm sorry, what? Did you stick your dick into a pool of jizz you found on your hotel sheets?

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Old 03-24-2011, 04:42 PM
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If your body is exposed to the bodily fluids of an individual with HIV then yes. It is even more likely if the part of your body exposed to it were to have fluid (eyes, mouth, nose, or a cut finger) But more than likely, bodily fluids of an HIV patient on bed sheets would not be passed on to someone simply by touching them, unless you touched them with an open sore of your own or rubbed the sheets in your eye.
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:28 AM
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OK in teenager language I fell asleep then the next morning I woke up with what seemed to be nocturnal emissions (might've happened less than 1 hour after waking up, I don't really know how long it takes for semen to dry). My underwear was definitely moderately wet and it obviously touched the bedsheet. So I'm worried that my own semen can provide the mechanism for the bedsheet's HIV to travel back up my urethra.

On another note, if I have a cold sore inside my mouth and drank soda from the same fountain drink cup as someone else (who probably isn't positive although such topics typically don't offer themselves up for discussion), can I get it assuming he's positive?

Also it's possible that I may have rubbed my eyes after waking up (to focus them). My ears and nose may also have touched the sheets while asleep.

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Old 03-25-2011, 02:54 AM
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Ok. Thank you for clarifying. You can't get HIV in any of those ways. HIV only lives outside the human body for a few minutes, so even if there was HIV on those sheets a day before you slept on them, it would all be dead and gone by the time you fell asleep. Also, HIV can't move under its own power, so even if there was fresh HIV infected semen that you ejaculated on top of, the HIV couldn't get up your uninfected semen into your body.

As to your second scenario, even if you have a cold sore inside your mouth, you can't get HIV from sharing a cup with somebody who's HIV positive. Saliva doesn't transmit HIV. The only fluids that can transmit HIV are semen, blood, vaginal secretions and breast milk. If you were to expose HIV to saliva, it would be destroyed in an instant. Between the enzymes and antibodies and all the other stuff that's in saliva, HIV doesn't stand a chance.

As to your third question, even if your hand was covered with HIV infected blood, semen, or vaginal fluid and you rubbed your eye, your chance of catching HIV would be so small it would be almost nonexistent. In your case, though, there's no risk at all, because remember, any HIV that had been on the bedsheet before would be long gone by now.

If you're worried, of course, you should get an HIV test, but you'll be fine.

Let me tell you, there are really only two ways you can get HIV nowadays, really. You either share needles with an HIV positive person, or you have unprotected sex without a condom with an HIV positive person. If you don't do either of those two things, your chance of becoming HIV positive is next to nothing.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:17 AM
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Also, HIV can't move under its own power, so even if there was fresh HIV infected semen that you ejaculated on top of, the HIV couldn't get up your uninfected semen into your body.
HIV does not travel up a stream of bodily fluids. You're thinking of candiru. (And even they don't actually do that)
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:41 AM
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HIV does not travel up a stream of bodily fluids. You're thinking of candiru. (And even they don't actually do that)
Oh, nice, Anne. Give the kid a new disease to be neurotic about, why dontcha?!

ineedhelp, Captain Amazing is right. The very most important thing to understand in this situation is that HIV doesn't swim. It can't move on its own. It just floats in semen and blood and goes where the semen or blood goes. So if you have a tear in your butthole and someone shoots their cum into you, the HIV moves with the cum and maybe into that tear, and then your bloodstream carries it to your cells, because your blood is moving. But since your cum was going out, not in, there's no way viruses could have moved against the stream and gotten into your penis.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:31 AM
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But since your cum was going out, not in, there's no way viruses could have moved against the stream and gotten into your penis.
It came out but it also stayed there for a while (since I didn't notice until I had already awoken). If it stayed on the tip of the urethra for a while, there's still no chance for upward suction?

This is assuming the bedsheet even had HIV on them, right?
I was given the bedsheets and obviously touched them as soon as they were handed off. I don't recall when I fell asleep but assuming worst case scenario that I fell asleep within minutes and immediately had a seminal discharge, there's still no chance for HIV infection?
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:36 AM
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I think the point has been made repeatedly in this thread -- the virus does not survive outside the human body. You can't get it from a bedsheet, only from a person.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:59 AM
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Honestly, if you were sleeping on some random, sketchy bed, you know what I'd be infinitely more concerned about than HIV? Bedbugs. Seriously. That's why I don't, for example, stay in NYC hostels any more. Find a better class of accommodations, friend.

But, before you ask: No. You can't get HIV from bedbugs. You can't even get it from mosquitos, and you'd better believe that *this* is something that very serious people did careful research on. (Malaria is quite bad enough, and the current African HIV epidemic is already tragic. Mosquito-borne HIV would be ... very regrettable.) Further, I'm not aware of any disease you can contract from bedbugs. They're just very annoying.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:05 PM
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If you were to expose HIV to saliva, it would be destroyed in an instant. Between the enzymes and antibodies and all the other stuff that's in saliva, HIV doesn't stand a chance.
Really? So you can't get HIV from oral?
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:23 PM
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Really? So you can't get HIV from oral?
I think it's theoretically possible if you have some open sore in your mouth and the semen (or menstrual blood) gets splashed right onto the sore. But really, there's a much greater chance of contracting something else.

If this guy is worried about mystery sores, he needs to see a doctor. Probably a urologist would be the best bet if he thinks he has a STD and especially if the sores are in the genital/groin area.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:24 PM
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Really? So you can't get HIV from oral?
It's possible, but not as likely as if you have anal or vaginal sex. In that case, though, the HIV still wouldn't be in the saliva. As the CDC describes:

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Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex, though it is a less common mode of transmission than other sexual behaviors (anal and vaginal sex). There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through

* the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
* the lining of the vagina or cervix;
* the lining of the anus; or
* directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.

If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.

The risk of HIV transmission increases

* if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
* if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
* if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).

Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV.

If you choose to perform oral sex, and your partner is male,

* use a latex condom on the penis; or
* if you or your partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms can be used.

Studies have shown that latex condoms are very effective, though not perfect, in preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently. If either partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms for either the male or female can be used. For more information about latex condoms, see "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases."

If you choose to have oral sex, and your partner is female,

* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the vagina. A latex barrier such as a dental dam reduces the risk of blood or vaginal fluids entering your mouth. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.

If you choose to perform oral sex with either a male or female partner and this sex includes oral contact with your partners anus (analingus or rimming),

* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the anus. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
In fact, this website in general is a good resource for your questions about HIV transmission:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:30 PM
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It came out but it also stayed there for a while (since I didn't notice until I had already awoken). If it stayed on the tip of the urethra for a while, there's still no chance for upward suction?

This is assuming the bedsheet even had HIV on them, right?
I was given the bedsheets and obviously touched them as soon as they were handed off. I don't recall when I fell asleep but assuming worst case scenario that I fell asleep within minutes and immediately had a seminal discharge, there's still no chance for HIV infection?
No, there's not a chance. Like somebody else said, if you're staying in unsanitary conditions, there are other conditions to worry about, like bedbugs or staph, but you're not going to get HIV.
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:21 PM
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I think it's theoretically possible if you have some open sore in your mouth and the semen (or menstrual blood) gets splashed right onto the sore. But really, there's a much greater chance of contracting something else.
Thanks to you and Captain Amazing.

It seems like the risk is pretty low, but it might not be such a great idea right after flossing.
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:09 AM
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If you choose to have oral sex, and your partner is female,

* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the vagina. A latex barrier such as a dental dam reduces the risk of blood or vaginal fluids entering your mouth. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
I find it surprising that the CDC is recommending plastic wrap as a disease prevention measure. What's next? Socks?

But I guess it must have been proven effective....
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Old 03-26-2011, 09:34 AM
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I find it surprising that the CDC is recommending plastic wrap as a disease prevention measure. What's next? Socks?

But I guess it must have been proven effective....
No, it has not. It has not been studied or approved by the FDA for use in preventing the spread of HIV - despite the viral (heh) claims of one Dr. Amy (who spells it dental "damn," by the way) which seem to have infected other websites.

I'm also very surprised to see the CDC recommending it on that page, since on another, they post:
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At least one scientific article has suggested that plastic food wrap may be used as a barrier to protect against herpes simplex virus during oral-vaginal or oral-anal sex. However, there are no data regarding the effectiveness of plastic food wrap in decreasing transmission of HIV and other STDs in this manner and it is not manufactured or approved by the FDA for this purpose.
That said, if I didn't have a dental dam and I wanted to use a barrier, I'd use plastic wrap, figuring it's better than nothing.
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