How to deal with loud, dumb, ignorant, and common sense challenged kids?

[intuitive]

Hi there,

Currently I live in an apartment with my baby and my husband, ever since we moved here there's always a lot of idiot mexican kids running around and shouting like no one else lives here, banging on people's walls (particularly ours) with either baseballs, basketballs, or any kind of balls until we go out there and tell them to stop; but sometimes they still do it. There was a time they banged against our wall so loud that it felt like a demolition, my husband immediately went outside to bitch them the f*ck out and put them in their place. I one time even heard somebody talk about those particular cult of ignorant kids broke somebody elses apartment window by throwing a ball; of course management isn't going to make kids as ignorant as them stop playing outside, but I want to know what can I do short less of committing bloody murder. I've read a similar post about a pregnant women with her husband having to deal with ignorant kids playing ding dong ditch with their doorbell, and there were others that gave very insightful advices about how to deal with it without having the police involved.

But in my particular case, this is an apartment complex; in my mind I really want to shove a baseball bat up their ass or pull out all those girl's hair out of their scalp. I'm even tempted to buy a sniper paintball gun, the evil mentality will never stop. But what are your suggestions of silencing annoying kids that runs around all day and night with no common courtesy that their parents are too dumb to influence upon them?

[Covered_In_Bees!]

Your thread subject pretty much describes every kid ever. I think the compromise everyone has worked out is that you take deep breaths and put anything that can be used to kill someone away.

[t-bonham@scc.net]

A friend who live across the street from a high school was bothered by kids hanging out on his lawn & smoking (smoking not allowed on school property) and tossing litter down (despite him having put a garbage container there) dealt with it by installing lawn sprinklers connected to a timer, so they went on randomly all day for short periods.

Not sure if that would be allowed in your apartment complex. But a sprinkler outside your walls would at least keep them playing ball elsewhere. (Though it might get you younger kids in bathing suits running through the sprinkled & screeching all day long.)

[Covered_In_Bees!]

Then he can just start leering at the ones in bathing suits and their parents will take them away real quick!

[Taomist]

Well, I tested that one high-pitched note that adults can't hear with our boys...they REALLY hate that sound! Find a way to broadcast that when they're being annoying

[Autolycus]

Originally Posted by Taomist

Well, I tested that one high-pitched note that adults can't hear with our boys...they REALLY hate that sound! Find a way to broadcast that when they're being annoying

Like a dog whistle, but a kid whistle! That's genius! I like kids but I could see a big market for this.

[Harmonious Discord]

Originally Posted by Autolycus

Like a dog whistle, but a kid whistle! That's genius! I like kids but I could see a big market for this.

They have installed these sound machines on streets in some towns. I'm totally against them in public places.

[Maastricht]

Soft, repetitive (on a short loop) classical music is used in the Netherlands to chase junkies from train stations and loitering youth from shopping malls.

The baby would hear the dog whistle, no?

I would approach the youngsters friendly and explain why they need to be quiet. Ask what they need. Perhaps you can approach with them the owners association or the press and get them an enclosed basketball field in a location where they don't bother anyone?

[Maastricht]

Soft, repetitive (on a short loop) classical music is used in the Netherlands to chase junkies from train stations and loitering youth from shopping malls.

The baby would hear the dog whistle, no?

I would approach the youngsters friendly and explain why they need to be quiet. Ask what they need. Perhaps you can approach with them the owners association or the press and get them an enclosed basketball field or an hangout in a location where they don't bother anyone?

[Cicero]

I was waiting to see the doctor yesterday and some woman came in and sat beside me with a child of about three which immediately began screaming, throwing things and then yelling at his mother. The he started to hit her and kick her. She did nothing to stop it.

Fortunately I was then called in to see the doctor who wanted to take my blood pressure. I explained it was probably unwise as I had just come close to choking a child.

[even sven]

If they are playing ball in an inappropriate place, it is probably because they do not have an appropriate space for playing. I would talk to the management and see if they would consider building or designating a ball court or other space where they can play in a way that doesn't bother others. If you live in an urban area, there are often organizations that specialize in providing healthy recreation options for young people- maybe you could contact them.

Kids and teenagers need a place to be. They are not going to disappear into the woodwork. You cannot punish or scold their energy away. As members of society, their need to run around and be young needs to be accomodated, too. Ideally this can happen in a healthy appropriate way.

[Shirley Ujest]

Originally Posted by Cicero

I was waiting to see the doctor yesterday and some woman came in and sat beside me with a child of about three which immediately began screaming, throwing things and then yelling at his mother. The he started to hit her and kick her. She did nothing to stop it.

Fortunately I was then called in to see the doctor who wanted to take my blood pressure. I explained it was probably unwise as I had just come close to choking a child.

It is not the child's fault.

It is the parents fault. The child is dragged all over town, out of their schedule, probably hungry and very tired. They have limited verbal skills at this stage and they only thing that works for them every time is a good tantrum to get noticed. Kids are never complimented for good behavior. Just punished for bad behavior.

The appointment time was probably majorly inconvenient but a parent works around it. However, this parent should have had a busy bag (toys, crayons, paper, special snacks,water.) of stuff to keep their sprog entertained.


I work in retail and see this every day.

Want me to tell you about the parents who let their kids ride bikes, skateboards, scooters, big wheels through a store? I don't blame the kids, I tell them to not do that. The parents are three feet away and ignoring their sprog. Ever wonder why Walmart and the like have the bikes secured? That is why.

If I could taser parents, I would happily do so.

[sandra_nz]

What's the layout of the exterior of your apartment and surrounding area? And what restrictions are in place in terms of what you can and can't have outside?

[twickster]

Since you're looking for advice, I'll move this to our advice-giving forum, IMHO.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

[Silver Fire]

Fucking Mexicans. I mean, really, what can you do, OP? They (and I'm sure you know which "they" I'm talking about, amirite?) made us get rid of all those whites only buildings so now how in the hell are any of us supposed to live in peace?! What a plight you've found yourself in... :/

(Okay, but seriously. She would have had her ass handed to her by now if they'd been "idiot fat kids". Just saying.)

Kids are assholes, film at 11. Your precious little baby is going to be annoying the fuck out of somebody, probably a lot of somebodies, in a couple years. Mexican or not, don't do anything to these kids that you wouldn't be totally okay with somebody else doing to yours. I bet you'd shit fire if your kid came home covered in paint and crying because some crazy person you live next to shot her with a paintball gun. Complain to management relentlessly and call the cops if they're being unreasonably loud during your area's established "quiet time" (generally after 10pm).

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by intuitive

Hi there,

Currently I live in an apartment with my baby and my husband, ever since we moved here there's always a lot of idiot mexican kids running around and shouting like no one else lives here, banging on people's walls (particularly ours) with either baseballs, basketballs, or any kind of balls until we go out there and tell them to stop; but sometimes they still do it. There was a time they banged against our wall so loud that it felt like a demolition, my husband immediately went outside to bitch them the f*ck out and put them in their place. I one time even heard somebody talk about those particular cult of ignorant kids broke somebody elses apartment window by throwing a ball; of course management isn't going to make kids as ignorant as them stop playing outside, but I want to know what can I do short less of committing bloody murder. I've read a similar post about a pregnant women with her husband having to deal with ignorant kids playing ding dong ditch with their doorbell, and there were others that gave very insightful advices about how to deal with it without having the police involved.

But in my particular case, this is an apartment complex; in my mind I really want to shove a baseball bat up their ass or pull out all those girl's hair out of their scalp. I'm even tempted to buy a sniper paintball gun, the evil mentality will never stop. But what are your suggestions of silencing annoying kids that runs around all day and night with no common courtesy that their parents are too dumb to influence upon them?

Important question: Were the majority of them right-handed, or left-handed?

[Chefguy]

Is the OP sure they were Mexicans? Cuz those Guatemalans can be some noisy bitches too.

[Rilchiam]

Originally Posted by intuitive

idiot mexican kids
bitch them the f*ck out and put them in their place.
cult of ignorant kids
kids as ignorant as them
I really want to shove a baseball bat up their ass or pull out all those girl's hair out of their scalp. I'm even tempted to buy a sniper paintball gun, the evil mentality will never stop.

You are the bad neighbor. I'd offer advice to the other residents, not you.

[Ca3799]

Move.

[drastic_quench]

Poison apple and chocolate-covered razor blade season is fast approaching.

[kayaker]

I dunno, maybe hang a pinata?

[janeslogin]

I once bought a house next to a family of loud, dumb, ignorant, and mentally challenged kids? A neighbor advised me before moving in to completely, absolutely and 100% ignore them. Never look in their direction, never respond to their greeting, nothing. At first when I cam home they would call out "Hi mister." and follow me up onto my porch. It was difficult but I was successful in ignoring them and they quickly failed to notice my existence. There was nothing I could do about the loudness.

[Surly Chick]

Have you tried talking to their parents?

Or you could truss them up in duct tape and dump then outside their door.

[perfectparanoia]

Originally Posted by Surly Chick

Have you tried talking to their parents?

This would be (and has been) my strategy.

We live in a townhome complex and the 'park' area backs onto our house. If there is a kid out there screaming or doing something which is not cool (like tearing big branches off the trees or tearing up the grass in big swaths). I go out and put on my mom face and explain that it is 'not cool' and to cut that shit out.

If they continue, I just go talk to their parents (this sometimes involves investigation but their friends usually give them up) who promptly resolve the situation.

(Yes, I am a busybody.)

[MsRobyn]

Originally Posted by janeslogin

I once bought a house next to a family of loud, dumb, ignorant, and mentally challenged kids? A neighbor advised me before moving in to completely, absolutely and 100% ignore them. Never look in their direction, never respond to their greeting, nothing. At first when I cam home they would call out "Hi mister." and follow me up onto my porch. It was difficult but I was successful in ignoring them and they quickly failed to notice my existence. There was nothing I could do about the loudness.

Pretty much this. I've got a similar thing on my block and ignoring the little shits darlings has worked like a charm.

Kids, especially obnoxious ones, will test limits to see how much you'll take before you give in, and how far they can push you past that. It's just what they do, and trying to change that is like trying to change the order of the planets. If you ignore them, you give them no reason at all to have anything to do with you, and they'll stop bothering you because you're no longer worth their investment in time and energy.

That said, anything that causes property damage or criminal behavior aside from hanging out needs to be addressed by the apartment complex management and/or the police. But if all they're doing is hanging out and being loud, there's probably going to be nothing you can do. Going "outside to bitch them the f*ck out and put them in their place" isn't going to work and will probably make things worse. I can promise you that.

[Bob Ducca]

I had some really good advice written out but realized at the last minute that it only applied to Pacific Islander children. Back to the drawing board! Sorry, I mean El Drawing Boardo.

[antonio107]

Find the biggest, meanest kid in the bunch, and beat him up. That will establish you as the Alpha, as per prison rules!

[E-Sabbath]

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=131287

Don't do what this guy did. Shooting, right out.

[billfish678]

Big Box. Big stick. Long String. 24 pack from Taco Bell. Number for INS. Patience. Problem solved.

[The Devil's Grandmother]

Put a heavy planter on the wall they are throwing the ball against and plant it with something sturdy and thorny. Bougainvillea are fast-growing and should cover the wall fairly quickly.

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by billfish678

Big Box. Big stick. Long String. 24 pack from Taco Bell. Number for INS. Patience. Problem solved.

This is a lot like my Pacific Islander advice, but use Spam instead of Taco Bell.

[Czarcasm]

I'm afraid, intuitive, that because of some unfortunate terminology you included in the OP this thread is pretty much off-track and will probably stay that way if left open. You can either message me if you wish to discuss this thread closure, or you can restart the thread with (hopefully) less flamatory verbiage.