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#101
11-12-2011, 04:44 PM
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The captain's gotta be some kind of creature. He's the boss of the hexenbiest and his last name is Reynard. Given some of the naming conventions of this show, it practically goes without saying.
3 guesses what kind of fairytale creature he is too. 
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#102
11-12-2011, 05:36 PM
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#103
11-12-2011, 09:05 PM
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I'm enjoying the production values more than the acting. Loved the bee guy in the interview room with the black and yellow plaid shirt and black and yellow phone. The Grimm only seems to have one expression -- blank. He doesn't seem to make eye contact or really engage with the other characters but hopefully he'll start moving his face in the coming episodes.
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#104
11-12-2011, 09:08 PM
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The ability to see doesn't seem terribly reliable -- he also didn't realize that the professor was a bee person.
But, yeah, I hope we find out what the deal is with the captain before they cancel this. 
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#105
11-12-2011, 09:32 PM
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He can only see when monster lose control over their human forms (though maybe as he becomes more Grimm that will change).
I enjoyed the werebees more than the werebears. And the name references continue to be fun...a hexenbiest named "Shade", "Melissa" meaning "honey bee" (had to look that one up), a beekeeper named Spinella. I like that they're having fun. Melissa being the "Mellischwuler" is probably a bit confusing to speakers of German, though....
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#106
11-12-2011, 09:50 PM
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How long until Nick's partner(s) get a clue? Both his police partner and his girlfriend, with all this weirdness happening, have to figure something's going on.
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#108
11-13-2011, 07:54 AM
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If this show is just generic monster-of-the-week, I have to assume viewership will drop off fairly quickly despite the really fine production values, because it's gonna get very repetitious very quickly otherwise. They've got to give more backstory on both Grimms and Fairy Tale Creatures (hereafter FTCs), as well as pushing the arc forward, or this show is just a well-executed moody mess.
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#111
11-14-2011, 10:10 AM
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I did like the bee episode a lot more than the previous one, too. I will keep watching, but my one request is that they ramp up revealing the backstory/what is actually going on a wee bit faster. I had never heard of the Brother's Grimm Queen Bee story, nice to have something a little less known (to me at least) introduced.
Re: the Bee people, surely the queen isn't the only one that knows what is coming for the Grimm. Why can't one of the underlings tell him what is going on or at least shoot him an email? If they are on his side and their sole raison d'etre is to communicate things, why the foul play in the police office? The suspect should have just laid out what he knew then and there. "Look, there's a baddie coming for you, the hexenbiest are evil, we need to talk."
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#113
11-14-2011, 11:35 AM
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#114
11-19-2011, 12:47 AM
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I love the premise. I really want to like this show, but it's losing me. I was incredulous when Hank did a B & E on the B & B. Hank claimed probable cause when Nick called him on it. There was no probable cause. I also am disbelieving that they got away with the tracking device on the car.
The captain still interests me. The bad guy kneels before him, yet he does seem to be protecting the Grimm at the same time. Blonde monster said something in an earlier episode about getting Nick on their side.
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#115
11-19-2011, 08:05 AM
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Yeah, I'm hanging in, but it could go either way.
Love the Big Good Wolf ("I had to get out of there! I was about to buy him a drink!"), and definitely want to know who/what the captain is. But, yeah, the partner breaking into the house ... I don't think so.
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#116
11-19-2011, 08:28 AM
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I was totally confused by last night's episode. A guy who has really sexy phermones because he's a goat-person? At this point, the good guys had absolutely no idea that he was holding women in his basement (and, btw, why was he holding women in his basement???), so why were they calling him a serial rapist? A serial-seducer, yeah, but last time I looked, that wasn't illegal. There are a fair number of men out there who go out every night and use whatever they've got, whether it be wit, dance-skills, attractiveness, or even colognes supposedly containing phermones to seduce a different woman every night. Think of Barney Stinson, the Neil Patrick Harris character on How I Met Your Mother. Not illegal. Despicable, perhaps, but not illegal.
I think I'd better watch this episode again, because I definitely did not follow it. Enjoyed the Big Good Wolf, of course, but otherwise, wtf?
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#117
11-19-2011, 10:59 AM
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I just noticed the irony of having a black major character and an Asian minor character in a show set in Portland, possibly the whitest major city in America, when people always complain about the lack of diversity in shows set in NYC.
It seems weird that the woman escaped at the beginning. Obviously, she was hallucinating from the gas like Hank, but why wasn't she under his thrall like the other women? Was the toad not strong enough? Did he not lock her into a cage fast enough?
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#118
11-19-2011, 11:05 AM
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It would be like using roofies, only more so -- no informed consent if the woman is drugged to the point that she can't make a free-will choice about whether to have sex or not.
And maybe he was caging the women till he was sure they were pregnant. Okay, here's my question -- at the end, when they were saying they'd test the goat guy's DNA to link him to the women in the other cities -- wouldn't he have weird DNA since he was a goat guy? Also, the EMT who was about to succumb -- wouldn't she be safe since she was wearing surgical gloves?
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#119
11-19-2011, 11:14 AM
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#120
11-19-2011, 02:23 PM
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The affect was airborne - if he touched you, he owned you - was the way it was put in the show. I don't believe any covering brought you immunity.
WolfDude said he was also an apparently rare "herder" variety - so there was more to him than mere procreation.
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#122
11-19-2011, 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I wasn't questioning the long-standing correspondence between goats and sexuality so much as the idea that no-fail seduction = rape. Sorry, but I just don't equate oozing sexiness is the same as putting drugs in a date's drink. But then my views about sexual activity are not all that mainstream - it just never struck me as that big a deal unless STD, pregancy, or injury resulted.
I will admit that I wasn't thinking of Pan or Satyrs at the time, so when I made that post this morning, I was finding the goat reference a little obscure - odd, since I'm a fairly long-time denizen of the SDMB, where goats and sex are never too far apart. Of course, goats and rocketry/catapults are never too far apart here either (nor are sex and giant squid), so the Dope may be a bit skewed in its general attitudes too.  ETA: still, I need to rewatch the episode, because, honestly, the whole thing just didn't hang together for me. I'm confused about Cop Captain, I'm confused about the quotes at the beginning of each episode, I'm confused because Black Partner (I never know the names of characters in shows) saw and apparently was injured by a snake, I'm confused as to why Goat Guy was imprisoning women in his house, I'm confused because I could swear somebody else turned into some other kind of monster for a moment, and I have no idea who or what kind of monster it was, etc. Maybe I was drunk and didn't know it, which would be odd since I can't remember the last time I had any alcohol, but it must have been at least a year or five. Last edited by Oy!; 11-19-2011 at 03:38 PM.
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#123
11-19-2011, 04:55 PM
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He had a stone statue of Pan in his garden that the camera showed for a while. I don't understand the quotes myself actually, I'm assuming they're Grimm translations but they narry have anything to do with the episode Cop Captain seems to have his own agenda in dealing with Grimms/his cop underling, protecting him from some and leading him into danger with others (hexenbeasts) Black partner saw the snake cuz the gas was affecting him, I don't think he was actually injured by it I didn't see any other monsters. What's really confusing me is the shapeshifting. So the people do it accedentally? or they pop in and out of monster mode all the time and only main guy can see it? Does every creature know he is automatically a Grimm? I am honestly very interested in the show but it's getting way way way too predictable and it's becoming too serial...we need a shake up.
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#125
11-20-2011, 07:57 AM
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Ah, I watched it again yesterday evening. At which point I remembered that I'd had a severe headache Friday night, and had taken some medicine for it, which along with it being fairly late in the day (i.e. I was getting sleepy), made me a little foggier than usual. On this second watching, it all made much more sense, although I do find things less than perfectly clear.
First of all, I'd entirely forgotten that the whole investigation was triggered by the woman wearing a white gown running out into the road and being hit by a truck, then strangled by goat guy. The whole goat guy explanation, especially that this one is a "herder," is pretty lame and not explained clearly at all. I love the idea that these critters tend to be actors, politicians, etc, but there's just no explanation of why they would be inclined to keep the women rather than just inseminating every woman he can get to and hoping for the best. It's also never explained how this particular woman was suddenly able to snap out of goat guy's influence and run for it. The other monster was the French Grimm Reaper (a clever play on words, that). The cop captain's ends are still so very unclear that almost none of it makes any sense. Lord of All Fairy Tale Monsters in Portland/the World just doesn't seem like a big enough deal to justify cop captain's actions, especially since the FTMs don't seem to have many interests in common with one another. And if black partner was hallucinating stuff like the bed post snake due to the gas, we have a problem, because we (the audience) have no way at all to distinguish between main character's ability to see hidden realities and any character's hallucinations. And the shapeshifting seems very inconsistent; clearly the Grimm can't always see it, but it's not at all clear whether he sees it due to the FTM slipping or his own ability kicking in or what. It does make Big Good Wolf a very useful character, though. And I love that he plays the cello.
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#126
11-20-2011, 08:30 PM
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This show may not keep my interest much longer, but I must say, I loved the over-the-top serenity of that fellow’s garden. The (large!) rabbit on the stairway was a nice touch, although you’d expect some warning that delicate animals — and the associated droppings — are underfoot.
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#127
11-20-2011, 09:33 PM
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That very issue is currently before the Supreme Court.
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#128
11-21-2011, 07:37 AM
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But, I will say that the show is still doing atmospherics pretty well, and its cinematography is quite good.
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#129
11-21-2011, 08:27 AM
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I do not think regular humans can see any sort of shape-shifting, and Grimm can only see it when one of the creatures loses control. I think when the show portrays the creatures as their "real" form, it is almost always for the benefit of the audience and not happening in reality. This is just purely speculation on my part though, and I agree that it's really annoying that they haven't made this clear. (And it is also really annoying we're only getting about 15 seconds of backstory/what-is-going-on per episode).
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#131
11-21-2011, 10:55 AM
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Only Grimms can see the true face of the creatures, and then only when the glamours are dropped. Regular folks see the creatures as human all the time, even when the glamour is not in place. It has not been made clear whether the glamour drops when the creatures are under stress, distracted, shown in reflection, or what. The writers may take the tack that each of the individual creatures loses control of the glamour under different conditions.
When Hank the partner cop was hallucinating in the basement, I agree it was very clear it was from the sedative/hallucinogenic gas being pumped in there. Last edited by lisacurl; 11-21-2011 at 10:55 AM.
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#132
11-21-2011, 12:55 PM
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#133
11-21-2011, 03:29 PM
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Rabits are prey animals, but they're also social animals with a dominance hierarchy. So while flight is often an option for them, many are not in the least averse to fight. Spawn of Satan also managed to bite my nose one time when I leaned over her, hard enough that she broke the skin to the point that it was noticed when I went to work! She was moody that way... All sweetness one moment, evil vampire bunny the next.[/Hijack]
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#134
11-21-2011, 03:45 PM
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One thing that is obvious - their "beast" ability does make them stronger than humans, etc - notice goatMan's leaping from building to ground etc. (clearly, Grimm has super speed, but -- ) And atleast in the fight between beeGirl and WitchLawyer, the witch started some form of 'curse' to the arm while the beegirl just had a vial of venom (why did she not swarm the bees on her instead?)
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#135
11-21-2011, 05:35 PM
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11-21-2011, 07:31 PM
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(He's actually pretty nice; he doesn't bite, and his method of terrifying the cats involves trying to dance with them. While they stand bewildered at this monstrosity circling them threateningly ...)
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#140
11-23-2011, 05:51 AM
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This show is OK, but I hate how cliched it is. The aunt waiting until the last minute to tell Nick about his Grimm heritage; The captain is probably evil; The bee queen all acting mysterious instead of being direct, and getting into a situation which causes Nick to kill her before she can tell him what's coming form him.
I'll call it right now. Nick's girlfriend isn't human.
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#141
11-23-2011, 04:14 PM
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ETA: I'd also like to thank NBC for replaying episodes later during the week on the SyFy channel. They deserve some good karma for that decision. Last edited by Erdosain; 11-23-2011 at 04:18 PM.
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#142
11-23-2011, 04:19 PM
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Kind of like how in a horror movie someone is in an attic, the ominous music plays, and it turns out to be a cat.
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#143
11-23-2011, 10:20 PM
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#144
12-09-2011, 06:48 PM
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Anyone still watching? I just got caught up with last week's episode and have a question.
Who (or what) is the refrigerator repair man?
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#149
12-10-2011, 06:30 AM
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The Rat episode was so bad that I'm close to bailing on this show.
There was almost no development of the season story arc and the Mystery of the Week was awful and suspense-free. Blutbad didn't have anything to do and the awful lines they're giving the Asian cop to say should embarrass us all. They have one more week to pick it up.
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#150
12-10-2011, 07:31 AM
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I thought that the Big Good Wolf was very funny in the rat episode - clearly had no clue when it comes to counselling a troubled teen, yet so proud and smug about how well he'd done.
But once again I am confused by the Three Little Pigs episode. I had assumed thus far that somehow, all the FTMs automatically knew that the protagonist character was a Grimm. But the slob Blutbad didn't seem to have a clue. Protagonist has only been a Grimm for a couple of months and has yet to do much in the way of active pursuit beyond his actual job, so I can't imagine he's just generally known in the FTM community as a Grimm. There's got to be something about him that allows FTMs to recognize him as one. Why couldn't the slob Blutbad see it? I really want to like this show. I think it's well executed, and has an interesting premise. I don't hate the actors, and I really love Big Good Wolf. But they have got to get the arc moving a little faster! And refrigerator repairman looked like a hamster to me, but I really wouldn't be surprised if he were any kind of furry prey animal. Clearly not a predator.
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