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Old 01-10-2012, 12:56 PM
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why lift windshield wipers off glass?

I noticed an increasing number of people lift their wiper blades off the wndshield when snow is expected. Is there a good reason for this or is it herd mentality?

I've heard people say it's to keep the blades from freezing to the window. I've always found that frozen blades pop loose easily when you're scraping the ice off anyhow.

So are they enlightened or monkey see - monkey do?
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:05 PM
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I've certainly had windshield wipers frozen to the windshield in the morning to the extent that it was difficult to pry them loose without damaging them, and when I did they still had chunks of ice attached to them making them pretty much useless until all that comes off.

It usually happens when it starts snowing while or just after I've been driving because then the car is still warm enough to melt the first layer of snow and have it refreeze as hard ice. If it starts snowing after my car has already cooled down, the snow stays snowy and comes off easy.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:07 PM
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^what he said. they freeze to the windshield and it damages the rubber splines.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:08 PM
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We just bought expensive wipers and it says on the package to lift them if we expect snow or a freeze. We'd end up trashing the plastic on the wiper if we turned them on when we had ice on the windshield.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:09 PM
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What leahcim said. I've had wipers frozen to the glass and coated in millimetres of ice, which merged into the bottom of 10 cm of snow. The combination required determined scraping to remove, and I was worried about damaging the wiper blades, especially because it wasn't my car. I had forgotten to lift the blades, even though my cousins' cars nearby all had theirs lifted.

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Old 01-10-2012, 01:10 PM
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Where do you live? New England snow mixed with ice (common) will certainly freeze your windshield wipers to the bottom of the windshield and it often isn't easy to get them out. This may not be a common problem where snow = powder but that isn't the case everywhere.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:10 PM
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you can rip the blades pulling or scrapping them off a frozen window, it might not take chunks out but it might make splits the blade. it also lets you scrape full force everywhere because the wipers are already out of the way.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:10 PM
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I noticed an increasing number of people lift their wiper blades off the wndshield when snow is expected. Is there a good reason for this or is it herd mentality?

I've heard people say it's to keep the blades from freezing to the window. I've always found that frozen blades pop loose easily when you're scraping the ice off anyhow.

So are they enlightened or monkey see - monkey do?

Boston resident weighing in.

Makes a huge difference in places where snow and ice are a real concern. It's not just that the blades stick- ice cakes over the blades making it harder to clear off. It takes two seconds to pop the blades off the glass and saves time if significant snow or ice is expected
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:16 PM
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Upstate New York, land of 100 inch snow, chiming in. Wipers freeze to windows all the time. I don't understand a claim that they pop off easily.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:42 PM
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I find that lifting up the wipers make cleaning the windshield easier

Had a g/f that tried to run the wipers frozen to the windshield, she ended up stripping the attachment of the wiper-arm and the spindle.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:58 PM
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I understand a bit better. I can see how New England or midwest ice storms would be a real pain regarding the wipers. I'm in Colorado. Yea, the snow tends to be powder and cleans up easily especially if the car is cold when the snow falls. I've never noticed any damage to my wipers by gently knocking them loose when scraping the ice off the glass.

If it really helps, I wonder why none of the auto manufacturers design them to lift? I had several Ford sedans back in the 80's that would park the wipers off the glass by lifting the arms up on some small plastic wedges. (That was in Chicago) I never noticed it to be any different than my wipers now that stay on the glass all the time.

So for all you wiper lifters, do you notice the blades losing contact with the glass when you're driving over 60mph and wiping? - streaks?
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:30 PM
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Besides freezing weather the blades can take a set. Keeping them from touching can help that. In addition UV rays can harm the material. on a car it's not too big a deal since blades are pretty cheap but on my motor home they cost a lot more.

Since we live full time in our motor home we often sit in one place for several months in sunny places like AZ and move on when it gets too warm or we get too bored. The blades can see a lot of sun.

I have used blade covers for UV protection and plastic foam to keep the blades from touching the windshield and my eight year old blades are still in good shape.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:06 PM
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I'm from Colorado, around Denver, and have lived in this area all my life. Only in the last 3 or 4 or 5 years have I seen people lifting their blades off the windshield and just figured it was, as stated above, herd mentality. I've never had any real problem with cleaning the windshield after a snow storm and we seldom have ice storms. Of course, I'd never try to run the blades until I had at least scraped the window some.

I can't speak for what they do in the mountains, btw, but it's very new in Denver.

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Old 01-10-2012, 10:40 PM
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I have used blade covers for UV protection and plastic foam to keep the blades from touching the windshield and my eight year old blades are still in good shape.
Eight year old wiper blades?
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:48 AM
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A stuck wiper can not only be damaged as it rips free, you can also blow the fuse for the motor if the wiper is stuck hard enough.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:56 AM
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If it really helps, I wonder why none of the auto manufacturers design them to lift?


Virtually all wiper arms lift.

Decades ago, some recessed wipers could only be lifted if they were stopped short of being recessed. Still, the arm was spring loaded and was able to be retracted from the windshield.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:11 PM
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In 21 years of driving in New England and Minnesota, the handful of times my wipers have wound up "frozen to the windshield", to the extent that they cant' just be readily popped loose while clearing the windshield, have been ice storms. In those cases the whole vehicle is covered in a thick coat of ice, and freeing the wipers is not the primary impediment to driving.

I'll leave mine down. If it's an ice storm and I've got the wipers sticking up into the air, they're going to get a nice sheath of ice around them, like a tree branch. I'd rather have the edge of the blade resting on the windshield, preventing it from becoming fully encased. I'd also rather not run the risk of high winds bending my wiper arms, being a more inviting target for vandalism, or stretching out the springs thereby reducing the effectiveness of the wipers.

Going to have to go with herd mentality on this one, sorry. Of course all of the above is heavily influenced by the fact that there's just something about the look of a car doing the "wiper salute" that really irritates me for unknown reasons.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:32 PM
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A stuck wiper can not only be damaged as it rips free, you can also blow the fuse for the motor if the wiper is stuck hard enough.
Or break the mechanism that controls the rotation. I've had that happen and it sucks; much worst than a blown fuse in the winter.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:42 PM
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From New England -

I find that when I lift the blades, they don't need any cleaning at all. However, when they are against the window, then more stuff sticks to them (once broken away from the windshield) making overall cleaning more difficult and time consuming.

Plus, as people have mentioned - once you have gunk stuck to the wipers, it can be a pain to clean them off sufficiently so that all the blade contacts the windshield. If you miss a tiny bit, you get a thin streak of clean and the rest of the windshield is opaque from the dried up mixture of water and salt spewed up from cars in front of you.

Rather than use blade covers and foam and all that to protect blades, I just get a pair of silblades - those things last forever. Before I found them, I was replacing wiper blades every 6 months.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:02 PM
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I can't speak for what they do in the mountains, btw, but it's very new in Denver.
I live in the mountains in Colorado, and I've been lifting my wipers (sounds kind of kinky) for years. If I don't, they will stick, or get lost in a huge mound of snow in a good storm. Everybody does it around here.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:02 PM
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If it really helps, I wonder why none of the auto manufacturers design them to lift?


Virtually all wiper arms lift.

Decades ago, some recessed wipers could only be lifted if they were stopped short of being recessed. Still, the arm was spring loaded and was able to be retracted from the windshield.
I believe what 60wag meant was that he wondered why wipers aren't designed to always be lifted off the glass by the drive mechanism whenever they're parked.

That way they'd never take a set, they'd never get iced onto the glass, etc.

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Old 03-04-2014, 01:44 PM
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Ridiculous!

I am from Michigan and now live in Raleigh North Carolina. The two times we've ever had snow here, I See people putting up there wipers. I think it is the most ridiculous thing ever, And it has to be a southern thing. It makes me laugh every time I've seen it. 20 years in Michigan have never ever seen it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:48 PM
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I am from Michigan and now live in Raleigh North Carolina. The two times we've ever had snow here, I See people putting up there wipers. I think it is the most ridiculous thing ever, And it has to be a southern thing. It makes me laugh every time I've seen it. 20 years in Michigan have never ever seen it.
Well, if you've never seen it, it must be stupid.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:51 PM
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But zombies never stick to the windshield.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:04 PM
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I think it is the most ridiculous thing ever, And it has to be a southern thing. It makes me laugh every time I've seen it.
Laugh all you want. Mrs. Geek didn't lift the wipers and they froze to the windshield. When she turned on the wipers, it burned out the wiper motor (nice design there, Dodge...).

Have you ever changed the wiper motor on an old Dodge Caravan? It's not fun.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:12 PM
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I find that lifting up the wipers make cleaning the windshield easier.
This is it. It's not hard to remove a frozen wiper from the windshield; that's what ice scrapers are for. You just make sure to break up the ice with a scraper before going, and also the scrape all the ice off the blade.

But it's a lot easier to brush off the windshield if the blade is not in the way. You have to lift them up anyway to get all the snow off, so why not just do it in advance? It certainly cuts down on the time I need to brush off snow.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:32 PM
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I have an '05 Subaru Outback and it has a heated area on the windshield right where the wipers go. I love that feature and I'd really hate to see the price for replacing that windshield.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:23 PM
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I've replaced the windshield on my '04 twice - never saw the bill from the insurance company as glass is always covered here. The feature is nice, but I still lift the wipers when I know ice is coming.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:32 PM
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Auto lift upon turn off would be cool as we sometimes get ice that is not forecast here in the AR, OK, MO, KN junction.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:25 PM
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Somebody needs to make a tube with a small slit along the side - to slide over the blades and keep them ice-free.

The tubes blades come in and a sharp knife come to mind.

- he who moved 2000 miles to escape the weather (and many, many other things about the Midwest)
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:44 AM
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Do not lift windsheild wipers orr window for long periods

The idea of lifting wipers off your windows to protect the wiper blade is not smart at all. You should never pull wipers up of the window for long periods of time (other than to clean under them or break ice off them).

Here is why. There is a spring in the wiper arm (underneath) and when you put the wiper arm in a position off the window it is stretching the spring. That stretching will permanently damage the spring and prevent the wiper from having proper pressure on the windshield to clean the window properly.

Try this to understand this concept. Take a pen spring and stretch it. It never goes back to the original shape. The same is true of the wiper arm spring.

Auto supply stores sell devices such as wind deflectors and additional springs to put more pressure on your wiper arm to make sure the wiper stays on you window especially at high speeds(the faster you go the less pressure the wiper has on the glass). It has been a problem for ever (keeping wipers on the glass) and now we have a group of geniuses that think lifting the wiper arms of the window is a good idea. It is not and will cause accidents when people can't see because the wipers don't clear the window properly due to lack of pressure on the wiper and glass.
Stop it.

All you have to do is remember to turn your wipers off when you shut the car off. You have to scrape your window anyway so free the wiper by hand and clear it off.

This lazy man idea saves you no time at all because you still have to scrape the window and likely have to break the freezing rain or ice of the wiper even when it is lifted off the window.

Just stop doing this it is very bad and potentially dangerous to you and other drivers.

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Old 02-05-2015, 11:48 AM
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I like to leave them up, turn them on and watch the crazy dance they do in the air.

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Old 02-05-2015, 01:35 PM
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The idea of lifting wipers off your windows to protect the wiper blade is not smart at all. You should never pull wipers up of the window for long periods of time (other than to clean under them or break ice off them).

Here is why. There is a spring in the wiper arm (underneath) and when you put the wiper arm in a position off the window it is stretching the spring. That stretching will permanently damage the spring and prevent the wiper from having proper pressure on the windshield to clean the window properly.

Try this to understand this concept. Take a pen spring and stretch it. It never goes back to the original shape. The same is true of the wiper arm spring.

Auto supply stores sell devices such as wind deflectors and additional springs to put more pressure on your wiper arm to make sure the wiper stays on you window especially at high speeds(the faster you go the less pressure the wiper has on the glass). It has been a problem for ever (keeping wipers on the glass) and now we have a group of geniuses that think lifting the wiper arms of the window is a good idea. It is not and will cause accidents when people can't see because the wipers don't clear the window properly due to lack of pressure on the wiper and glass.
Stop it.

All you have to do is remember to turn your wipers off when you shut the car off. You have to scrape your window anyway so free the wiper by hand and clear it off.

This lazy man idea saves you no time at all because you still have to scrape the window and likely have to break the freezing rain or ice of the wiper even when it is lifted off the window.

Just stop doing this it is very bad and potentially dangerous to you and other drivers.

Not sure the physics are correct here. Under a certain amount of 'stretch' steal will not be permanently deformed or even fatigue at all.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:03 PM
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The idea of lifting wipers off your windows to protect the wiper blade is not smart at all. You should never pull wipers up of the window for long periods of time (other than to clean under them or break ice off them).

Here is why. There is a spring in the wiper arm (underneath) and when you put the wiper arm in a position off the window it is stretching the spring. That stretching will permanently damage the spring and prevent the wiper from having proper pressure on the windshield to clean the window properly.

Try this to understand this concept. Take a pen spring and stretch it. It never goes back to the original shape. The same is true of the wiper arm spring.
Length of time doesn't matter for steel; either you've stretched the spring too far, or you haven't. In the case of the pen spring, you can stretch it a certain distance without permanently distorting it; if you stretch it beyond a certain point, then yes, you will have permanently deformed the spring.

For windshield wipers, they are designed to tolerate being raised off of the windshield. This is a deliberate and useful feature for changing the blade inserts, and also for replacing the windshield.

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It has been a problem for ever (keeping wipers on the glass) and now we have a group of geniuses that think lifting the wiper arms of the window is a good idea. It is not and will cause accidents when people can't see because the wipers don't clear the window properly due to lack of pressure on the wiper and glass.
Stop it.
Been doing it for years on multiple cars, my wipers are just fine, thanks. If your wipers are lame, it's because your manufacturer designed crappy wipers for your car, or you bought cheap replacement inserts, or your springs have simply rusted/corroded over the years and are now providing a reduced spring constant.

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This lazy man idea saves you no time at all because you still have to scrape the window and likely have to break the freezing rain or ice of the wiper even when it is lifted off the window.
What freezing rain? See leahcim's post way up at the top of the thread: it snows, the first part of the snow melts on your warm windshield, and by the end of your work day (or overnight), your windshield cools, freezing your wipers to the glass. This happens even without freezing rain.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:42 PM
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Resident of the Great White North here. No comment about whether lifting wipers is smart, stupid, or whatever, but I will say that I have never seen anyone here do it. Maybe it's more common in the south where you get more frequent freeze/thaw cycles. Typically the wipers don't freeze up much, or are easily freed. They will only really freeze hard if there is freezing rain, or a thaw/freeze event after rain or snow.

I couldn't really lift mine anyway because they're a new design that don't have any spring backings. Instead, the blade itself is tensioned, so that when lifted away from the windshield the blades curl into a sort of semi-circle. I love the low-profile design, but if they froze up in that shape due to freezing rain it would be a worse problem than freezing to the windshield!

On those very rare occasions when the blades seem quite firmly stuck, to avoid damaging them I just pour a few ounces of windshield de-icer above them. It's basically a type of windshield washer fluid but with an even lower freezing point, more like the stuff they use to de-ice airplane wings. Frees them up in a few seconds. I think I've only had to do this once this winter.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:11 PM
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I'm really surprised by some of the responses I'm reading here. I've lived in the northeast almost my whole life, and in New England for the past 12 years. I rarely see a parked car with the wipers sticking up (although, admittedly, most people front into their driveways), and I have never had my wipers freeze to the windshield. And between this winter and the last one, if it hasn't happened yet, I don't think it's going to.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:04 PM
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Don't people use car covers any more ? Can't say I've seen them for a while ( in GB ), but googling them indicates they can cost upwards of $20.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:08 PM
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Don't people use car covers any more ? Can't say I've seen them for a while ( in GB ), but googling them indicates they can cost upwards of $20.
Car covers always seemed like a huge pain in the ass to me. Putting it on and taking it off then folding it up so it fits in the trunk. When you want it most like in rain and snow now you are putting a big wad of wet cloth in your trunk that seems like a total mess.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:13 PM
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Also as part of the OP from centuries ago there may be some sort of herd mentality. Not in the sense that just because one does it others should follow. But because more people are doing it more people are reminded to do it. It is too easy to forget otherwise and I am glad when I get such a reminder, not only to make snow and ice clearing easier but also a reminder that that type of weather in on the way.

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Old 02-05-2015, 07:21 PM
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I never, ever saw this practice here in Chicago until a couple of years ago (probably about the time of the OP!). Now, all of a sudden, I see it a lot. It looks totally goofy, not that that makes it a bad idea of course. But I don't do it, I just free up the wipers with my scraper, and they are fine.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:32 PM
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Don't people use car covers any more ? Can't say I've seen them for a while ( in GB ), but googling them indicates they can cost upwards of $20.
Can't say I ever saw them all that much even when they were more common. I'd hate to think about covering a car in a windy winter storm. Now there's a car shaped ice and fabric sculpture to remove. That's assuming it's not frozen to the car.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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So I'm the only one who turns the car on before cleaning it off, turns the windshield defrost on high, turns the back window defroster on, then gets out and cleans the hood, trunk, roof, side windows and lights first? By the time that's all done, the windshield and rear window are mostly - if not completely - melted. Wipers aren't frozen to the window at all, the defroster blower is right underneath them (or darned close). I've been driving in the Chicago area since 1986 and have always done it like that, never had an issue with the wipers. So yeah, I think it looks dumb.
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:02 PM
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Yeah, zombie, I knnow.

We get our fair share of icing/sleeting/freezing rain here in OK, once getting over three and half-inches solid, in one storm, and another time had no electric for 12 days after around 2 1/2" ice. I have only once raised my wipers, and of course, it was during the 3 1/2" coating of ice. Took me forever to get the thick layer off the arm with both deicer and tapping stress-cracks into ice and cracking off with hand as needed, not to mention freeing the lower mount/pivot-point area. Ice on the upright radio antenna was so thick I could not wrap my hand around it! At least it was made to bend its length :-) Getting the doors open was hard enough, made use of a small wooden bat to bust the ice up along opening of door. After got car hot and toasty inside thus warming surface beneath ice-layer to a degree, the ice started loosening enough to slide off in sheets, thankfully, with little effort beyond a bit of hitting w/ fist to crack it more.

I also make it a habit when it snows/sleets here, after my living/driving in mountainous/ski-area w/ lots of wet snow/ice as often as powder it seemed, to allow windshield to cool off greatly by rolling down windows and turning heater off, if not to outide temp, before getting home (when I am without wife, of course) so as to avoid having 'melt' turn to hard ice as it falls; more slushy-like, at worst, that way, IME.

It would have been easier to scrape and use de-icer stuff if arms had been down, by far. I can tap w/ scraper gently along length of down-wiper and slowly crack off the layer(s) on arms gently from top side down and the little amount of deicer needed to free rubber part is easy, Then lift and scrape the rest of winodows if car not blowing hot defrost-air by that point.

When arms were up, if I tried such tapping, the arms would not have been as firm to small taps from the leverage and I bet I would've messed-up something down low on arm/mount. Most icings, though, are not quite as bad and its really not that hard to free a down wiper compared to an up, IME, maybe a couple minutes or three for wiper part. I often 'cheat' and place an old blanket over windshield and wiper portions and then some when I know that Nature's gonna ice upon us in a major way.

I can't remember but a few different vehhicles ever going wipers-up when snow/ice is expected around these parts, fwiw.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:17 PM
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Back when I lived in northern AZ and my windshield wipers or doors froze, I'd run a bead of hand sanitizer on them and it seemed to magically thaw everything. Of course, we didn't get the extreme snow and ice that folks in the frozen wastelands do, but it worked quickly and never seemed to damage anything.
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So I'm the only one who turns the car on before cleaning it off, turns the windshield defrost on high, turns the back window defroster on, then gets out and cleans the hood, trunk, roof, side windows and lights first? By the time that's all done, the windshield and rear window are mostly - if not completely - melted.
How long does it take you? In the amount of time it takes me to do that, my rear window could indeed be defrosted, thanks to the heat input from the electrical defrost grid on it. But my windshield would not; the average car doesn't put out any cabin heat for several minutes after a cold-start.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:01 AM
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How long does it take you? In the amount of time it takes me to do that, my rear window could indeed be defrosted, thanks to the heat input from the electrical defrost grid on it. But my windshield would not; the average car doesn't put out any cabin heat for several minutes after a cold-start.
And while it might unstick the wiper blades it will not remove any built up ice chunks that may have formed on the rubber, so they will perform like crap. Part of the ritual of lifting your blades is that you can also run your hand down them and clear off stuff so that you get decent wiper action that cleans your windshield instead of smearing stuff around.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:07 AM
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I've never heard of lifting the blades before snow/ice in over 40 years driving in Michigan. I would have a little concern about fatigue in the spring if you did it a lot. I've found that you don't want to try to lift the blade if it's stuck, just gently push it with your ice scraper till it's free.
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Don't people use car covers any more ? Can't say I've seen them for a while ( in GB ), but googling them indicates they can cost upwards of $20.
The only place in the U.S. I've ever seen car covers used is Southern California. Had one myself when I lived there, to protect the car's finish from the sun. (It was a new car I was leasing; otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.)

As DinoR said, I would never use a car cover if it were going to rain or snow.
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Old 02-08-2015, 12:18 AM
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I've always found that frozen blades pop loose easily when you're scraping the ice off anyhow.
Don't know about your frozen blades, but mine don't pop loose easily.
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:57 AM
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So I'm the only one who turns the car on before cleaning it off, turns the windshield defrost on high, turns the back window defroster on, then gets out and cleans the hood, trunk, roof, side windows and lights first? By the time that's all done, the windshield and rear window are mostly - if not completely - melted. Wipers aren't frozen to the window at all, the defroster blower is right underneath them (or darned close). I've been driving in the Chicago area since 1986 and have always done it like that, never had an issue with the wipers. So yeah, I think it looks dumb.
I've never had a car that warms up that fast. Not even close.

I start my car in the morning, then take a push broom to it to clear the snow (this works great by the way, why bother with a silly little snow brush). Then go back inside. In about 15 minutes, the defrost is starting to do the job, but sometimes I have to help it along with a scrapper. This is for every car I've ever owned. My Wife's too.
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