[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by Normal Phase

I have the sudden uncomfortable feeling that I have a target on my butt. Amazing how easy it is to forget about that in the heat of battle.

Scum gloooooooaaaaaaating?

[Normal Phase]

You're such a bastard, Astral.

[Weedy]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Since I asked Gadarene for his thoughts on the vote leaders, I should probably share my own:

Weedy - I don't see anything terribly suspicious. He does seem to have latched on to MHaye for what seems to be fairly thin reasoning, but there is reasoning there. I was a bit bothered by his sudden switch to Astral (which didn't count because he neglected to unvote MHaye); combined with his "probably won't be back before EoD" statement it looks like he just wanted to be in on the 'winning' bandwagon. Of course, he later returned and "revoted" MHaye...I'm not sure exactly what to make of that.

It means I would have preferred an MHaye lynch over an Astral lynch, but an Astral lynch over a demon-selected one.

And that I'm not used to unvoting, and I forgot.

I live in Australia, and EOD is early in the morning, so I will usually be voting before I go to bed, unless I wake up really early (but Tanaer explained this. Thanks, Tanaer).

[gnarlycharlie]

still no results? first, most thought of us that EOD was earlier than it actually was and now were still at Dusk. it's just prolonging our agony.

Originally Posted by MHaye

Gnarly's is a pressure vote because the first sentence might be PIS, ignoring the rest of the post. That's a slippery reason for a third vote. When I've done the reread, Gnarly will be my first candidate for close examination. That's subject to nothing arising later in the Day. (PetW is second right now.)

so would my reason be good for a first vote? second? fifth? furthermore, do you find a third vote more relevant than other votes? do you subscribe to the theory that the third vote on a player is likelier to be from scum?

do you want me to guess what you'll find when examine me?

[Tanaer]

Originally Posted by MHaye

I've had to speed up a lot to ensure I get through all the Day 2 posts before Dusk But, en passsant: -I really doubt this.

Firstly the hue of my item doesn't match my alignment, and secondly it's a Day action to change alignment - just PM ATPG and he'll do it for you no questions asked.

oh you magic types!
We fighters don't get it as an option and I didn't know other people did til quite recently.

[Tanaer]

Originally Posted by Tanaer

oh you magic types!
We fighters don't get it as an option and I didn't know other people did til quite recently.

Actually now I think about it, I haven't checked in with other fighter types, but lowly soldier me certainly doesn't.

[Astral Rejection]

I can't. Which is a shame. I'd change my element to "holy." Phere couldn't touch me then! I'd be... unlynchable.

And Normal, you should work on your people skills.

[Normal Phase]

Did you ask?

[Normal Phase]

Originally Posted by Astral Rejection

I can't. Which is a shame. I'd change my element to "holy." Phere couldn't touch me then! I'd be... unlynchable.

And Normal, you should work on your people skills.

Hehe.

[Normal Phase]

Unlynchable, Astral?

[Visorslash]

@ Normal Phase

In regards to your transparent comment. I had nothing to hide then, I was under protection, etc.

Then again, I'm rarely, if ever scum. So it's not surprising that you would never see it.

[Astral Rejection]

Cuz, you see, he's a demon, and, and, I'd be holy, so, like...

Bah! It's not funny anymore when you have to explain it!

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Then again, I'm rarely, if ever scum.

High-five! I'm rarely scum too. I was scum my first two games of mafia, and I haven't been scum since.

Which is a shame. Being scum is fun. I'm missing half the game!

[Normal Phase]

I'm so freakin paranoid I have you penciled in right now as an unlynchable godfather who's just toying with us.

[Astral Rejection]

Patience is a virtue.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, now with actual sleep in me, let's see what the tally was for the lynch and the items.

[Suburban Plankton]

So...demons need sleep.

Good to know.

[Believerer]

Originally Posted by choie

I'd like to hear something from Drain Bead's sub Believerer.

:wave:

I'm getting into it, I promise! You'll have a better post from me later today. (Remember I'm on GMT+1)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Does anyone recall the tiebreaker rules for this game? I could have sworn they were the standard "first person to reach the tied number of votes is lynched", but I can't seem to find that in the rules now.

Also, I wonder how the 'hidden votes' are counted. Assuming they are the result of players with a 'double-voting' ability, would they take effect for vote-counting purposes at the End of Day, or as of the post in which the person publicly voted?

Pizza, in case you see this in the next 7 minutes, can you answer the question posed in the paragraph above?

Double-voters take effect at the same time they vote, but won't be shown in the tally until EOD.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Should I count obvious attempts at voting that were unfortunately not bolded?

[Askthepizzaguy]

1. Mahaloth- No vote activity
2. Believerer- No vote activity
25. Lilflower- No vote activity
28. storyteller0910- No vote activity



3. Suburban Plankton (Pendant, Sapphire, Emerald to Suburban Plankton) GADARENE
5. Scathach TANAER
6. Fubbleskag VOTE GADARENE
7. Weedy (Emerald choie, Pendant Normal) VOTE ASTRAL
8. Gadarene WEEDY
9. PetW (Ring to PetW) VOTE GADARENE
10. Astral Rejection (Pendant Silver Jan, Sapphire to Fubbleskag) VOTE NORMAL PHASE
11. gnarlycharlie (Pendant gnarly) WEEDY
12. NAF1138 ABSTAIN
13. septimus ASTRAL (Emerald to Choie, Pendant to Normal Phase, Sapphire to Lightfoot)
14. GuiriEnEspana ASTRAL
16. Lightfoot (Emerald, Pendant, Sapphire to Lightfoot) SCATHACH
17. Silver Jan ASTRAL
18. choie VOTE NORMAL (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver Jan)
19. BobArrgh BELIEVERER
20. Tanaer (Emerald Tanaer) CHOIE
21. Red Skeezix VOTE WEEDY
22. Normal Phase VOTE ASTRAL (ring choie, pendant normal, sapphire Lightfoot)
23. MHaye ASTRAL
24. RealityTrip (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver, sapphire Guiri) Vote Normal Phase (not bolded)
27. Visorslash (Pendant, Emerald to Visorslash, Sapphire to Fubbleskag) VOTE ASTRAL
29. ToeJam ASTRAL (Vote Emerald Ring to ToeJam, Sapphire, Pendant to BobARRG)
30. Askthepizzaguy UNVOTE



This is what I got. See any mistakes, please send me a correction!

[Astral Rejection]

I say yes. If they were clearly meant to be counted, no reason to disenfranchise them. Let's have no hanging chads here!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm inclined to count it, but I don't want to hear any whining if I missed the vote entirely due to it not being bolded. We bold it so I can see it as I'm speed-reading the thread to make a tally, and putting color in it to make absolutely sure it's eye-catching. It works for a reason.

Bold and colored correctly, please.

[Suburban Plankton]

I don't have a problem either way, but you need to be consistent. I believe there was a vote on Day 1 that was not counted because it was improperly formatted, which would suggest you should continue in that vein.

Assuming that counting 'improper' votes wouldn't change the lynch results, I don't have a problem with changing the policy at this point.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mmm. It wouldn't be quite fair to change, mid-phase anyway.

I'm afraid I can't count realitytrip's votes. None of them were formatted correctly.

[LightFoot]

if a vote is not formatted properly, and you miss it shame on them. If you catch it, bonus.

( or will that incite riots?)

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's how I'd like to do it next round, because I've been good about actually seeing the unbolded votes among the massive walls of text, but if I miss it, I really can't hear complaints about it.

I just can't change the rules mid-phase, so if there are no strong objections I'd like to implement it next phase. This phase it's tough luck and all that.

[Suburban Plankton]

I have a couple corrections to the votes, I think:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

6. Fubbleskag VOTE GADARENE

fubbleskag also voted the Emerald Ring to Visorslash in Post 779

Originally Posted by fubbleskag

goddamnit.


Vote: Emerald ring to Visorslash

17. Silver Jan ASTRAL

Silver Jan placed votes for the Items in Post 1226

Originally Posted by Silver Jan

Oh and

Emerald Ring : Gaderene
Blue Pendant: Silver Jan
Sapphire Ring: Normal Phase

I may have missed unvotes on these somewhere along the line...

[Suburban Plankton]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

That's how I'd like to do it next round, because I've been good about actually seeing the unbolded votes among the massive walls of text, but if I miss it, I really can't hear complaints about it.

I just can't change the rules mid-phase, so if there are no strong objections I'd like to implement it next phase. This phase it's tough luck and all that.

Sounds good to me.

[realitytrip]

Ok. My fuck up. And that's fair, because I see Mosier's vote did not count in round one. For the record, I really, really wish that the bold rule was in the original rules at the start. After reviewing, I finally found it in post 149. Sorry guys.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know from checking my tally sheet that those votes weren't placed and then unvoted, else I would have noted that to myself that they unvoted, for experience level purposes.

Those corrections are both valid and very helpful, thanks a zillion, Suburban Plankton.

Keeping the tally straight in this game is a beast, that's why I'm in no hurry to proceed. This looks correct to me.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Sounds good to me.

I agree with it as well. of course the Mod can tweak any rules as he sees fit ( I read that somewhere)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by realitytrip

Ok. My fuck up. And that's fair, because I see Mosier's vote did not count in round one. For the record, I really, really wish that the bold rule was in the original rules at the start. After reviewing, I finally found it in post 149. Sorry guys.

As with the other bad vote, it will still count for experience, just not for the tally. Officially it's counted as an abstain. So it's not so bad.

What I want to do after posting the writeup, and after every writeup, is a post with links back to the game rules, game mechanics information, previous writeups, and any pertinent corrections (such as the writeup mistake Day One) or game announcements.

This way, assuming everyone reads my writeups, you will also have convenient links back to every single Game-related Highly Important Information post.

[Gadarene]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I know from checking my tally sheet that those votes weren't placed and then unvoted, else I would have noted that to myself that they unvoted, for experience level purposes.

Those corrections are both valid and very helpful, thanks a zillion, Suburban Plankton.

Keeping the tally straight in this game is a beast, that's why I'm in no hurry to proceed. This looks correct to me.

Weedy should get cracking with that vote counting script she mentioned awhile back. It helps amazingly in POG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Corrected Official tally, before special effects:


1. Mahaloth- No vote activity
2. Believerer- No vote activity
25. Lilflower- No vote activity
28. storyteller0910- No vote activity



3. Suburban Plankton (Pendant, Sapphire, Emerald to Suburban Plankton) GADARENE
5. Scathach TANAER
6. Fubbleskag VOTE GADARENE (Emerald ring to Visorslash)
7. Weedy (Emerald choie, Pendant Normal) VOTE ASTRAL
8. Gadarene WEEDY
9. PetW (Ring to PetW) VOTE GADARENE
10. Astral Rejection (Pendant Silver Jan, Sapphire to Fubbleskag) VOTE NORMAL PHASE
11. gnarlycharlie (Pendant gnarly) WEEDY
12. NAF1138 ABSTAIN
13. septimus ASTRAL (Emerald to Choie, Pendant to Normal Phase, Sapphire to Lightfoot)
14. GuiriEnEspana ASTRAL
16. Lightfoot (Emerald, Pendant, Sapphire to Lightfoot) SCATHACH
17. Silver Jan ASTRAL (Emerald Ring : Gaderene, Blue Pendant: Silver Jan, Sapphire Ring: Normal Phase)
18. choie VOTE NORMAL (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver Jan)
19. BobArrgh BELIEVERER
20. Tanaer (Emerald Tanaer) CHOIE
21. Red Skeezix VOTE WEEDY
22. Normal Phase VOTE ASTRAL (ring choie, pendant normal, sapphire Lightfoot)
23. MHaye ASTRAL
24. RealityTrip (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver, sapphire Guiri) Vote Normal Phase (not bolded)
27. Visorslash (Pendant, Emerald to Visorslash, Sapphire to Fubbleskag) VOTE ASTRAL
29. ToeJam ASTRAL (Vote Emerald Ring to ToeJam, Sapphire, Pendant to BobARRG)
30. Askthepizzaguy UNVOTE

[Suburban Plankton]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Mmm. It wouldn't be quite fair to change, mid-phase anyway.

I'm afraid I can't count realitytrip's votes. None of them were formatted correctly.

So by my count this means the Pendant goes to Normal instead of Jan (pending any secret votes, double votes, etc.).

[Astral Rejection]

Since I'm still technically not dead, one final piece of advice for my townie brethren.

Look at people who appear to be doing an excellent job of helping town. When the scum aren't killing them, consider what that means. I have nobody in mind to point to, it's just something I wanted to remind you guys of.

[Suburban Plankton]

Originally Posted by Gadarene

Weedy should get cracking with that vote counting script she mentioned awhile back. It helps amazingly in POG.

Somebody wrote a Google Chrome extension for counting Mafia votes, that's specific to the SDMB. At least, I think that's what it is. Anyway, I have it installed on my laptop at home, but it's not on the one I use for work, where I'm posting from now.

Which makes me think maybe it's not a Chrome extension, because those should be synced. Unless it only works on the Dev channel.

Does this sound familiar to anyone else, or have I finally lost it completely?

[Normal Phase]

Assuming I live that long. Astral's sounding ominous. I don't think he likes me very much.

[Silver Jan]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

So by my count this means the Pendant goes to Normal instead of Jan (pending any secret votes, double votes, etc.).

I don't mind if it goes to Normal, I just wanted some jewels

I think that Pizzamod has to stick with the rules that were in play on D1 unless the majority agree to change them. I have screwed up votes/unvotes about a hundred times and then quiver in fear when I have to change them. Players usually notice a messed up vote and will shout out about it (what an awful sentence).

[Astral Rejection]

Originally Posted by Normal Phase

Assuming I live that long. Astral's sounding ominous. I don't think he likes me very much.

What is objectively wrong with my advice?

[Normal Phase]

Nothing, actually. I wrote that comment in response to me getting voted the pendant.

[Silver Jan]

Originally Posted by Normal Phase

Nothing, actually. I wrote that comment in response to me getting voted the pendant.

Haha, you think it's ominous and I rather like it, I hope it isn't full of poison or something equally sinister.

[fubbleskag]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Somebody wrote a Google Chrome extension for counting Mafia votes, that's specific to the SDMB. At least, I think that's what it is. Anyway, I have it installed on my laptop at home, but it's not on the one I use for work, where I'm posting from now.

Which makes me think maybe it's not a Chrome extension, because those should be synced. Unless it only works on the Dev channel.

Does this sound familiar to anyone else, or have I finally lost it completely?

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=633629

it doesn't really count votes, but does allow for filtering of posts to only those containing votes - pretty sure the vote requires bold and/or color, can't remember.

also, did I ever update that to include the newer version with a drop-down list of players rather than having to input the name manually? if not, I can re-upload.

[Silver Jan]

Does anyone have a clock or a countdown timer thing? That really helps us lot that are outside the US.

[Askthepizzaguy]

LYNCH

Astral Rejection: 10
Gadarene: 3
Weedy: 2
Normal Phase: 2
Tanaer: 1
Scathach: 1
Believerer: 1
Choie: 1
Abstain/Present/Unvoted: 2
No tiebreaker needed.

Blue Pendant:

Normal Phase: 4
Silver Jan: 3
Visorslash: 2
gnarly: 1
Lightfoot: 1
BobAargh: 1
Suburban Plankton: 1
No tiebreaker needed.

Sapphire Ring:

Lightfoot: 4
Fubbleskag: 3
Normal Phase: 1
BobAargh: 1
Suburban Plankton: 1
No tiebreaker needed.

Emerald Ring:

choie: 5
Visorslash: 3
PetW: 1
Lightfoot: 1
Gadarene: 1
Tanaer: 1
ToeJam: 1
Suburban Plankton: 1
No tiebreaker needed.


Tally has been double-checked and all vote effects are taken into consideration.

[LightFoot]

so it's Astral +3
Weedy -1

or did I screw that up?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Current Status:
Experience Level ups have been recorded.
Item changing hands have been recorded (PM notifications not sent yet)
Attacks and Day actions have been recorded.
Role switches have been recorded.

TO DO LIST:
Day Two Writeup
ModSummary of Rules, Mechanics, Writeups, Announcements, and Corrections to date.
PM notifications of role switches and item switches
Any other corrections or notifications
Continue being handsome.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

so it's Astral +3
Weedy -1

or did I screw that up?

yes I think I did

Astral +2
Weedy -1


Did anyone get a - vote yesterDay?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

so it's Astral +3
Weedy -1

or did I screw that up?

Weedy should be at 3 votes, or no changes. That's my mistake, should not be at -1.

Astral should be at +2, my count has him at 10 still. I triple-checked to make sure. I believe my count was correct and you had the error here. Can you double-check yours?