HBO's Girls

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Bob Ducca

None of the guy characters seem gay to me. They just seem like young urbanites. I see people like them all the time around Chicago (especially around the building I work in, which also headquarters Groupon).

Yeah, they're more just hipsterish or possibly "metrosexual" (if anyone still uses that word.)

[Vinyl Turnip]

Ah, good. So I won't be accused of bigotry if I have an overwhelming desire to punch them in the face.

[planetcory]

Originally Posted by Bob Ducca

None of the guy characters seem gay to me. They just seem like young urbanites. I see people like them all the time around Chicago (especially around the building I work in, which also headquarters Groupon).

Well, Marnie's boyfriend was accused of 'having a vagina'. So, he's definitely deliberately being presented as un-macho.

[Biggirl]

Poor Marnie's boyfriend. He's one of those "too nice" guys one keeps hearing about. And the lead character can't be that much of an asshole because if she was, she'd a stepped on that guys balls and enjoyed it. At least I would have and I know I'm an asshole.

[Acsenray]

Episode 6 was the first episode I enjoyed all the way through. A couple of months ago I went to go visit my parents and eat cheap neighborhood pizza. I want to do it again.

[ZipperJJ]

Why was Jessa at her employer's house in the morning? Did I miss something?

I hated that they were so mad at Hannah for what she wrote in her "notebook." I mean fuck...some dude who doesn't pay rent there let his friend into her bedroom to read her private stuff and now she's the bad guy? Jesus... I don't like the way she didn't tell her friends to STFU and deal with their own problems themselves.

Adam creeps me out. He is not a traditional looking/sounding actor at all.

Still watching. Heh.

ETA: This is about the episode from the 13th. I'm a week behind on my tv.

[Acsenray]

He creeps me out because he's a creep.

[Acsenray]

Question: When Jessa calls those guys "crusty sacks of shit," one of them says something like "Great. You reduce us to a subculture and then you name us incorrectly." What subculture was he talking about?

[Acsenray]

I think I figured it out.

[planetcory]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

I think I figured it out.

Learned something. Was scratching my head a little at that comment too.

[Quimby]

I thought the party episode was one of the best of the show so far. All the stories were good and the way they completely flipped Adam's characterization was amazing.

[Acsenray]

True. It looks like Hannah was the one who was too self-absorbed to get close to him. But he's still gross.

[jcg23]

I'm much older than the characters, but some stuff still rings true since I'm single. This is the only show right now that makes me excited when new episodes come out. Lena Dunham's character bugs me a bit (her horrible clothes, figure, and fashion sense), but on the whole, I love the show. The other actors are great. I never really buy into a good-looking guy like Adam falling for someone like Hanna (not pretty/not a great personality).

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by jcg23

I never really buy into a good-looking guy like Adam falling for someone like Hanna (not pretty/not a great personality).

Shit, I don't want to admit this, but that's also had me a bit puzzled.

[Biggirl]

Adam is a good-looking guy? Coulda fooled me.

The cracked up virgin had me crying with laughter.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

Adam is a good-looking guy? Coulda fooled me.

And I guess that's where it breaks down for me. I'm terrible at figuring out who of my sex (beyond the obvious) is good-looking or not. What about the pharmacy guy? He seemed good-looking to me.

[Biggirl]

I thought the pharmacy guy was going to take her to an 'ugliest date' party. Yeah, he was very good looking.

[Bob Ducca]

I find Hannah plenty attractive. I like her better than Jessa, anyway. Her personality is a trainwreck though.

[Quimby]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

The cracked up virgin had me crying with laughter.

That was hilarious. My favorite part was how she randomly lost her pants and no one said a word about it.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Bob Ducca

I find Hannah plenty attractive. I like her better than Jessa, anyway. Her personality is a trainwreck though.

That sounds like a fair assessment to me.

[jcg23]

Yeah, the pharmacy guy was good-looking too. I'd like to see Hannah with a plain guy sometime. Someone more on her level of hotness. But since she's the writer/creator of the show, I doubt that'll happen.

[planetcory]

I'd say she and Adam are on the same level of attractiveness. He's just in better shape, but he's a doofy-looking dude.

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

an 'ugliest date' party

Also known as a "dog fight," according to a movie I once saw.

[Sleeps With Butterflies]

Originally Posted by planetcory

I'd say she and Adam are on the same level of attractiveness. He's just in better shape, but he's a doofy-looking dude.

I agree she's on same level with this guy and I guess I'm alone but I thought the pharmacist was quite unattractive.

I'm hanging in there for one full season because I know HBO shows can sometimes take a bit to find their footing, but so far I'm really not very impressed with it. There are a few interesting points, but for the most part I don't think it's for me. Still, hanging in.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Sleeps With Butterflies

I agree she's on same level with this guy and I guess I'm alone but I thought the pharmacist was quite unattractive.

OK, I really give up now. If pharmacy guy was "quite unattractive" then I really have no fucking clue what is considered attractive to women. That's okay, as I'm married, but I really didn't think I was THAT bad at this.

[Sleeps With Butterflies]

Originally Posted by pulykamell

OK, I really give up now. If pharmacy guy was "quite unattractive" then I really have no fucking clue what is considered attractive to women. That's okay, as I'm married, but I really didn't think I was THAT bad at this.

Give up? Honestly, why would you expect anyone (men or women) as a group to find one person attractive or unattractive? That's odd to me. We all have different tastes, preferences, and turn offs. This is news?

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Sleeps With Butterflies

Give up? Honestly, why would you expect anyone (men or women) as a group to find one person attractive or unattractive? That's odd to me. We all have different tastes, preferences, and turn offs. This is news?

No shit, girl. I'm just surprised at somebody like that being characterized as "quite unattractive." To me, it sounds like the whole Internet meme of characterizing a conventionally beautiful woman as having "sharp knees."

[Sleeps With Butterflies]

Really, boy? I'm sorry to disappoint but I really didn't think he was attractive. As in, if he asked me out I would definitely say no.

(is there a reason you seem so angry about this?)

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Sleeps With Butterflies

Really, boy? I'm sorry to disappoint but I really didn't think he was attractive. As in, if he asked me out I would definitely say no.

(is there a reason you seem so angry about this?)

I'm not angry at all. I'm just a bit (genuinely) perplexed at my own inability to figure out what is generally considered sexually attractive to the opposite sex. I don't mean any sort of offense.

[DrDeth]

It was so boring I couldn't even finish epi one.

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by DrDeth

It was so boring I couldn't even finish epi one.

Why were you even trying to watch television like the rest of us ignoramuses? Wasn't there a book you should have been reading instead?

[Biggirl]

Well, I thought the pharmacy guy was very attractive and if he'd asked me out, I'd be suspicious. Which is why I thought he asked her out for nefarious purposes. Adam looks like a dork and acts like an ass, so I do not understand why he has girls all over him.

And his allofasudden "you're so mean to me" act is total bullshit. Are we forgetting his texting his dick and then saying "oops, that wasn't for you" or his "don't talk-just fuck' or his 'talk dirty to me but don't undress, this isn't about you' crap?

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

And his allofasudden "you're so mean to me" act is total bullshit. Are we forgetting his texting his dick and then saying "oops, that wasn't for you" or his "don't talk-just fuck' or his 'talk dirty to me but don't undress, this isn't about you' crap?

I found that pretty believable. Hannah never even tried to get to know him beyond a fuck-buddy level and had never even seen him outside of his apartment, or with a shirt on. As far as he was concerned, this is just some girl that came by for casual sex once in awhile. In his mind, she was just using him - so why not get some things out of it that he wants.

He might be clueless and have zero tact, but you can't blame him for having that kind of attitude towards their arrangement.

"He's in AA?"
"Well, that's like the main defining thing about him. That, and his love of books."

[Biggirl]

Originally Posted by Bob Ducca

I found that pretty believable. Hannah never even tried to get to know him beyond a fuck-buddy level and had never even seen him outside of his apartment, or with a shirt on. As far as he was concerned, this is just some girl that came by for casual sex once in awhile. In his mind, she was just using him - so why not get some things out of it that he wants.

He might be clueless and have zero tact, but you can't blame him for having that kind of attitude towards their arrangement.

"He's in AA?"
"Well, that's like the main defining thing about him. That, and his love of books."

Not true. She tried and tried again to deepen their relationship. When she told him straight up she wanted more from him, he fucked her and then told her later, when she thought they were deepening their relationship-- yeah, no. Hell, she even broke up with him about it!

[Evil Captor]

I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it's hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole "You never asked!" rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

[jcg23]

Originally Posted by Evil Captor

I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it's hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole "You never asked!" rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

I think it was just poor writing. It didn't seem true to the character.

[Lakai]

Originally Posted by Evil Captor

I like the way the series refuses to follow conventional romantic tropes, but the guys in this series are such assholes, it's hard to see why anyone would be attracted to them. I was amazed when Adam went off with the whole "You never asked!" rant. He had plenty of opportunities to deepen their relationship, never took one of them. What a jerk.

Did he want to deepen their relationship? I recall Hanna being the one who complained about the lack of depth. Adam then countered by saying that he felt Hanna was never really interested in a deeper relationship, so he kept it superficial because he thought that was what she wanted.

[Biggirl]

Well no, he didn't want to deepen the relationship. But then he asked if she wanted him to be her boyfriend-- cut to her smiling like a Cheshire Cat in the back of the cab with him and his bike. They sure made it look as if she got her "boyfriend". But then again, maybe he just said that because he's a jerk.

BTW, did anyone notice that last week Hannah was looking pretty? I think that's why she was dressed as a clown this week-- she was looking a bit too cute.

[Ellis Dee]

Originally Posted by planetcory

I'd say she and Adam are on the same level of attractiveness. He's just in better shape, but he's a doofy-looking dude.

He is clearly more attractive than her. Being in good shape is part of attractiveness.

[Biggirl]

She's not that fat In fact, if her friends weren't all. Hollywood skinny no one would comment on her "fatness". She is funny lookong, makes faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sortable unfocuses them and looks retarded.

Also,, Adam is probably a serial killer.

[Ellis Dee]

Agreed that she's not that fat. But she is in no way in good shape, not even remotely. He is, but then again I think you're right that he's a serial killer.

Speaking of serial killers, the dude from the ill-fated three-way gave me that American Psycho vibe.

The entire second half of this episode it was driving me crazy that Allison Williams is the spitting image of another actress but I couldn't figure out who it was. Winona Ryder? Amanda Peet? Serious facial deja vu, but I never came up with a satisfactory answer. Now I'm thinking maybe it's Rebecca Mozo. In any case, Williams is beautiful.

[Evil Captor]

Originally Posted by jcg23

I think it was just poor writing. It didn't seem true to the character.

Seems plausible to me.

[Biggirl]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

She's not that fat In fact, if her friends weren't all. Hollywood skinny no one would comment on her "fatness". She is funny lookong, makes faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sortable unfocuses them and looks retarded.

Also,, Adam is probably a serial killer.

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She's not that fat. In fact, if all her friends weren't Hollywood skinny, no one would comment on her "fatness". She is funny-looking, though. She makes stupid faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sort of un-focuses them which makes her look retarded.

[Acsenray]

Truthfully, you didn't need to redo that whole sentence. We got the idea.

[Biggirl]

Yeah but re-reading it was killing me.

[Acsenray]

Okay, this is starting to grow on me.

"I've never been this miserable in my entire life."

"It's totally working."

[Acsenray]

"It doesn't make sense to get out now. There's pee on you."

Jessie preferred the old dude at the bar.

[planetcory]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

She is funny-looking, though. She makes stupid faces and does a weird thing with her eyes where she sort of un-focuses them which makes her look retarded.

It finally hit me in this episode. Kevin James. All I see when I look at her face now is Kevin James.

It's ironic, by the way, how much time is spent discussing the looks of actors who don't trade on their looks.

This episode didn't come together for me somehow. I think I'm tired of 'you need to live a little' storylines in general. Let those boring people be boring in peace.

[Ellis Dee]

Originally Posted by planetcory

It's ironic, by the way, how much time is spent discussing the looks of actors who don't trade on their looks.

Not really. It's in the context of the ugly main character getting the hot significant other simply because it's their show. Much hay was made about this phenomenon from Seinfeld, King of Queens, etc... Even though Jerry Seinfeld and Kevin James don't trade on their looks, it wasn't ironic that their looks were discussed in the context of the hot chicks they got on their shows.

[Acsenray]

On Seinfeld it was George that was the most notable—the short, bespectacled, chubby, bald loser who had a series of hot girlfriends.

Originally Posted by Ellis Dee

He is clearly more attractive than her. Being in good shape is part of attractiveness.

But an ugly man doesn't necessarily get more attractive just because he gets in shape.