HBO's Girls

[Ellis Dee]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

On Seinfeld it was George that was the most notable—the short, bespectacled, chubby, bald loser who had a series of hot girlfriends.

Even still, the looks of Jason Alexander were discussed even though he doesn't trade on his looks.

But an ugly man doesn't necessarily get more attractive just because he gets in shape.

Yes he does, absolutely. He may still be ugly but he's more attractive after he gets in shape.

[Sleeps With Butterflies]

I realize this attractive enough pissing contest is within the scope of the thread, but you guys do realize you're debating the relative attractiveness of these two people, right? Looks are subjective and all, but as far as I can see they're both pretty much on the same level. He works out and she doesn't. That's about the only difference I can see. She's not fat, she's just not fit. Then again, I also don't think the other girls are a size "Hollywood ZERO!" so many people on the dope like to talk about.

For me the most ridiculous part of the show so far is that this guy who is now suddenly her boyfriend wanted nearly nothing to do with her in the first six episodes. In a few of the first ones her friends gave her the shame face for even talking about him while reminding her that he never calls her, rarely texts her back, and only lets her come over to his apartment when he was horny. When we saw them on screen together he was dismissive, somewhat cruel and fairly weird with her. Now we're supposed to just accept that he wants to be around her all the time and paper a cinder block wall in "SORRY" to impress her? I'm not buying it.

[planetcory]

Originally Posted by Sleeps With Butterflies

For me the most ridiculous part of the show so far is that this guy who is now suddenly her boyfriend wanted nearly nothing to do with her in the first six episodes. In a few of the first ones her friends gave her the shame face for even talking about him while reminding her that he never calls her, rarely texts her back, and only lets her come over to his apartment when he was horny. When we saw them on screen together he was dismissive, somewhat cruel and fairly weird with her. Now we're supposed to just accept that he wants to be around her all the time and paper a cinder block wall in "SORRY" to impress her? I'm not buying it.

When you get to write your own fairy tale, you get to tame the bad boy and bring him home.

The explanation was somewhat plausible. Though I didn't buy it entirely either, I buy it just enough to go with it.

[ZipperJJ]

I'm buying it for now, but I won't buy it if it goes on like this for very long.

Trust me, for the ugly and weird, any dude doing anything remotely sweet towards you can be a real turn on.

[kath94]

Every time I see Adam I think "Gilligan." Anybody else?

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by kath94

Every time I see Adam I think "Gilligan." Anybody else?

A little more Maynard G. Krebs.

[Biggirl]

At first I didn't buy the "I always really liked you" bullshit either but then Adam is so erratic and borderline schzo, his big swing from dismissive and disinterested to boyfriend wasn't such a big deal.

[Acsenray]

Hannah doesn't think that being a good friend is a priority right now? What a bitch.

[Sleeps With Butterflies]

The fight between Hannah and Marnie is one of the few scenes in the series so far that has rang true with me and my experience of once being a girl that age. The pent up annoyances that girls hold on to that finally just come spilling out in the worst way.

If I had to relate to anyone on that show, I do a little with Marnie. I had a friend who was a bit like Hannah (not the caricature the writer has created, a toned down version) and she was like that. Marnie didn't really want to talk to Hannah but since Hannah wanted to fight, they were going to fight. She followed Marnie from room to room to keep it going and ratchet it up the anger.

Everyone has good points and bad points but I've got to agree with Acsenray, Hannah is a bitch.

[planetcory]

They're both self-centered. They're both right. I didn't know who's side to take. I guess the one who pays all the bills has the higher ground.

[Acsenray]

What is Hannah right about?

[Ellis Dee]

Marnie is also pretty darn self-involved, going on and on about her boyfriend whose touch disgusts her and then pining away for him after he dumps her.

[Biggirl]

Originally Posted by Ellis Dee

Marnie is also pretty darn self-involved, going on and on about her boyfriend whose touch disgusts her and then pining away for him after he dumps her.

He didn't dump her. He tried to dump her being understandably upset when he found out his touch skeeved her. And then she begged him to take her back. Begged and begged and fucked him in order to get him back. And then, when his touch skeeved her in the middle of sex-- she dumped him.

I'm sorry. There is no excuse for what she did to him. She deserves every bit of anguish she's going through.

[Ellis Dee]

Oh right, I forgot about that. That make s her pining away even more insufferable.

Oddly enough I like her character, but that's probably just because I'm so shallow.

[Mint Julep]

Count me in the, I-like-this-show crowd. My guy also thinks it is funny. I must agree that Shoshanna is my fav but I enjoy all of the characters.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

I'm sorry. There is no excuse for what she did to him. She deserves every bit of anguish she's going through.

I have to say, of all the insufferable, annoying characters on this show, both male and female, Marnie is the one who annoys me the most.

[interface2x]

I'm kind of annoyed - I caught onto this show kind of late so I'm trying to go back and watch them On Demand (Comcast). I watched episode 1, episode 2, and then ... no episodes 3 or 4. They have all the rest of them up (5-9, of which I've seen most), but are missing 3 and 4! Annoying.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by Mint Julep

I must agree that Shoshanna is my fav but I enjoy all of the characters.

I realize she's supposed to be annoying to serve as comic relief (inasmuch as a half-hour comedy show needs "comic relief"), but I find her character nearly unbearable. It's like they made a rough prototype of a female android with a brain powered by an AOL chatroom.

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by interface2x

I'm kind of annoyed - I caught onto this show kind of late so I'm trying to go back and watch them On Demand (Comcast). I watched episode 1, episode 2, and then ... no episodes 3 or 4. They have all the rest of them up (5-9, of which I've seen most), but are missing 3 and 4! Annoying.

If you have Comcast, do you have a way to access HBOGO, either via a tablet, iPhone, or Xbox? I think you can also just go to www.hbogo.com and access it there, if you have a cable subscription w/ HBO added (and it sounds like you do).

HBO GO will let you watch any episode of just about every series HBO has put out over the last 10-15 years.

[interface2x]

Good idea, I'll try that.

[Mint Julep]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

I realize she's supposed to be annoying to serve as comic relief (inasmuch as a half-hour comedy show needs "comic relief"), but I find her character nearly unbearable. It's like they made a rough prototype of a female android with a brain powered by an AOL chatroom.

Wait. So you are saying a female AOL-bot is bad?

[Bob Ducca]

Well, I loved the finale. The final shot w/ Hannah and the cake was really great. Lots of great scenes throughout. What did the rest of you think?

Here's an expansive (re: very long) interview Alan Sepinwall did w/ Lena Dunham and producer Jenni Konner. It's a good post-season wrap-up.

[Quimby]

I enjoyed the season as a whole in general and the finale in particular. I think the show suffered a bit because the pilot was probably the weakest episode (although I enjoyed it as well) but the show just got better and better as it went along. Looking forward to next season.

[Biggirl]

I missed the last two episodes because hubby was watching basketball. Without the Game of Thrones lead-in, he cannot be bothered with HBO. Grrrr.

I'll catch Girls (and Veep) on demand. Or HBO to Go.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Bob Ducca

Well, I loved the finale.

Well, I give up. I gave it a full season, and I guess I just don't get it. I guess I'm officially an old fogey. I have to Lena Dunham credit for keeping me interested enough to want to see it through a whole season, though, but the finale was just one WTF after another for me.

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by pulykamell

Well, I give up. I gave it a full season, and I guess I just don't get it. I guess I'm officially an old fogey. I have to Lena Dunham credit for keeping me interested enough to want to see it through a whole season, though, but the finale was just one WTF after another for me.

It definitely seems to be a very divisive show. People either really enjoy it (like myself and my wife) and others completely hate it. They talk about it in the interview I linked to above.

[Acsenray]

I loved every second of Adam's takedown of Hannah. It was totally deserved. Her self-pity is so self-indulgent and self-centered.

[pulykamell]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Her self-pity is so self-indulgent and self-centered.

Well, yeah. I mean, the whole series is very self-aware about the fact that these are all assholes, isn't it? Or am I giving Lena Dunham too much credit? I don't think I am. It just doesn't work for me.

[Biggirl]

Finally saw them. I was totally surprised by Jessa's marriage to the rich creep. I'm totally wondering if Shoshana liked what she got and I'm again flabbergasted by Adam's erratic behavior.

Also, Jessa's husband-- where have I seen him before?

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

I'm again flabbergasted by Adam's erratic behavior.

Actually, this time I was totally on board with him.

Also, Jessa's husband-- where have I seen him before?

Apparently he's an Irish actor named Chris O'Dowd. I don't think I've seen him before, but he was in The IT Crowd.

[planetcory]

Originally Posted by Biggirl

Also, Jessa's husband-- where have I seen him before?

If you've seen Bridesmaids, he was the cop/love interest.

[Biggirl]

Originally Posted by planetcory

If you've seen Bridesmaids, he was the cop/love interest.

Ah ha! I knew I had vestigial feelings of niceness about him, even though his character reminds me of the older men I ran into at clubs when I was young a thousand years ago. Creepy.

[Bob Ducca]

Nevermind

[Biggirl]

Just read that Jemima Kirke, the girl who got married in the last episode, is pregnant in real life. Now I can't wait to see if they incorporate the pregnancy or hide it.

[Acsenray]

Anyone watching the second season?

I found the latest episode — "One Man's Trash" (episode 5) — interesting, particularly at the point at which Hannah started babbling her self-absorbed nonsense and you could see the very moment in Joshua's face when he realized how immature she was.

[LVBoPeep]

I'm watching but I really was confused by that episode. It almost seemed like a dream or fantasy sequence.

[Acsenray]

I think the ending showed it wasn't a dream. She screwed things up in her usual Hannah way, not that it was ever going to be a long-term thing. She just caught Joshua at the right point in his life for a brief fling with an available, young woman.

[LVBoPeep]

Could be... I just found the tone of the episode very different and maybe the fantasy feel comes from wondering what a Joshua would ever see in a Hannah past a very brief one night stand. I kept expecting it to show it was a dream or have some weird dark secret that Joshua had. I wasn't a big fan of it actually - maybe cause there's only so much of Hannah I can take without being supplemented with the other supporting cast LOL.

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by LVBoPeep

Could be... I just found the tone of the episode very different and maybe the fantasy feel comes from wondering what a Joshua would ever see in a Hannah past a very brief one night stand.

Well yeah he wouldn't. But he's a well meaning and sincere enough person and sufficiently lonely and hurting that he might be able to fool himself for a day or so. That's what made the story realistic to me.

I wasn't a big fan of it actually - maybe cause there's only so much of Hannah I can take without being supplemented with the other supporting cast LOL.

Agreed. But I have to admire Dunham's willingness to portray herself so starkly. There is almost nothing redeeming or admirable or endearing about her character. And that is realistic for a certain age.

[twilight34]

I hope more people post on this board.
I just started watching Season 2, On Demand, and I'm really liking it. I saw episode 5, "One Man's Trash" last night, and thought it was totally over the top. It's the first one that I didn't care for. There were too many little things that didn't add up: He was supposedly a doctor, yet he could just call in "sick". No patients or hospital visits to worry about. No phone calls from his office or for emergencies? If you've ever lived with a doctor, you know how ridiculous that is!
Also, and I know this is nit-picking, but when Hannah finally left his house and walked down the street, I noticed right away that she had no purse or cell phone, etc. Unrealistic in today's world. I doubt even Hannah would spend 48 hours at a man's house with no handbag, backpack, cell phone or any means of identification?

I liked the episode, "I Get Ideas", the best so far. Loved the title song that played over the credits at the end.