Has Jimmy Fallon Ever Had a Guest Meltdown?

[HeyHomie]

You know how on talk shows every now and then a guest will do something utterly crazy, like bounce up and down on a couch (Tom Cruise on Oprah); show up completely high and incoherent (Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman); set furniture on fire (Gilbert Gottfreid on Leno); or get aggravated and walk off the set (can't think of anybody off hand, but I'm sure it's happened). Has that ever happened on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon?

I've only been into Fallon for a few months, so I haven't seen every episode of every season.

[Loach]

Thats not Gilbert Gottfreid's style. Bobcat Goldthwait set the fire on Leno. Joaquin Phoenix was doing a work.

A real meltdown was Crispan Glover on Letterman.

[HeyHomie]

Originally Posted by Loach

Thats not Gilbert Gottfreid's style. Bobcat Goldthwait set the fire on Leno. Joaquin Phoenix was doing a work.

A real meltdown was Crispan Glover on Letterman.

Oops, sorry. I confused Bobcat with Gilbert.

[Gyrate]

Originally Posted by Loach

A real meltdown was Crispan Glover on Letterman.

Glover was a spectacular bit of crazy. And which show had Sean Young doing her Catwoman thing?

[Paranoid Randroid]

Video of the Crispin Glover letterman interview. The famous portion of the incident happens starting about 2:15: Glover kicking towards Letterman’s face and coming within inches of contact, after which Letterman gets pissed and walks off stage.

“Woulda love to’ve chatted more with Crispin Glover, but I understand he had a cab to catch …”

[Shakester]

Ha, American amateurs. Those aren't meltdowns, Oliver Reed was the king of chat show guest insanity.

[Loach]

Here is a link to some of the other famous meltdowns.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ainwrecks.html

As for Fallon, I don't think so. He hasn't been on as long as many of the others though. And he doesn't try to go for controversy.

[hajario]

Crispin was a good friend of mine when we were teens. I assure you that he was playing a character. Letterman wasn't in on the joke but it was a joke.

[Scumpup]

Marsha Warfield had a short-lived talk show once upon a time. Mr. T was a guest. He came out wearing a huge pair of sunglasses which he declined to remove. Marsha asked him if it was because he was "incognegro." Things went downhill from there.

[Acsenray]

I for one don't believe that Phoenix, Goldthwaite, or Glover experienced "meltdowns." They were simply performing bits that didn't go over well. This kind of thing is essentially Richard Lewis's career.

As for the Daily Beast links. We know for a fact that Kaufman and Lawler were in cahoots and their entire rivalry was a put-on.

Andy Dick is a borderline case. That kind of stuff is essentially his act, but sometimes he seems genuinely under the influence. but Dick was also the primary caregiver for his children, so I suspect a lot of his "meltdowns" are simply an act too.

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by hajario

Crispin was a good friend of mine when we were teens. I assure you that he was playing a character. Letterman wasn't in on the joke but it was a joke.

But Dave loves Kauffman style jokes. Sure he didn't know?

[hajario]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

But Dave loves Kauffman style jokes. Sure he didn't know?

Sorry. I meant to say that Letterman might not have been in on the joke. I have no idea.

[Acsenray]

He could have known or figured it out, and still have reacted as he did. It made for good buzz, after all.

[Bob Ducca]

Originally Posted by hajario

Sorry. I meant to say that Letterman might not have been in on the joke. I have no idea.

I heard or read somewhere that Letterman was pretty pissed off at being used as a prop by Phoenix for his bit.

[Paranoid Randroid]

Originally Posted by hajario

Crispin was a good friend of mine when we were teens. I assure you that he was playing a character. Letterman wasn't in on the joke but it was a joke.

I honestly don’t doubt it was a joke, as the silliness was too extreme (IMO) to make a real breakdown or drug trip near as likely. But as a joke it fairly well bombed; getting himself more or less kicked off the show just made him look like a doofus. And if he was genuinely going for Kaufman-esque audience-confusion-as-art then he doesn’t appear to have had the constitution to keep going with it.

[Twilightildawn]

When Jonah Hill was on Late Night with Jimmy fallon 9/21/2011

Jonah talks about a feud he's developing with 'Glee' star Matthew Morrison

Pretty funny we are still waiting to see any new developments from that episode

- Twilightildawn

[Nobody]

I use to watch "Whose Line is it Anyway" and (as some of you already know) before it was hosted by Drew Carry it was hosted by Clive Anderson.

One day I was curious about what else Clive did, so I did some searching and found some YouTube clips.

In the UK, Clive Anderson pisses off the Bee Gees and they walk off of the show.

Another one, I thought I saw before but I can't find it now. Clive pisses off Richard Branson, who then pours his drink on Clive's head.

I think that was the inspiration for Branson throwing his drink at Colbert years later. Although some people thought that it might have been genuine and not scripted.

[Acsenray]

Didn't Clive Anderson host a travel program in the early 1990s in which he went around the world being rude to people?

Originally Posted by Nobody

In the UK, Clive Anderson pisses off the Bee Gees and they walk off of the show.

After watching that clip, I have no idea what happened. They seemed to be getting along just fine, with a few good-natured digs here and there, and all of a sudden Barry says he's leaving, Robin follows him out, and Maurice sits for a few seconds before saying, "Well, I guess I'd better go too."

[Nobody]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Didn't Clive Anderson host a travel program in the early 1990s in which he went around the world being rude to people?

I have no idea.

After watching that clip, I have no idea what happened. They seemed to be getting along just fine, with a few good-natured digs here and there, and all of a sudden Barry says he's leaving, Robin follows him out, and Maurice sits for a few seconds before saying, "Well, I guess I'd better go too."

I read about it a few years ago and basically they, or at least Barry, just got sick of Clive constantly making jokes about them and their music. He took it too far.
Here's Maurice Gibb talking about it

[salinqmind]

Crispin Glover was on David Letterman twice more (or maybe more?) after his stupid stunt, according to his Wikipedia entry. I don't know if DL was in on it, though.

[Heffalump and Roo]

Originally Posted by hajario

Sorry. I meant to say that Letterman might not have been in on the joke. I have no idea.

I just watched the clip and looked up Crispin Glover on wiki. Here's what wiki had to say about it.

Glover appeared on Late Night with David Letterman on July 28, 1987, to promote the movie River's Edge, in which he starred.[6] Unbeknownst to Letterman and the audience, Glover appeared in character as "Rubin", from a then-unreleased movie Rubin and Ed, wearing platform shoes and a wig. Rather than a conventional interview, Glover staged an Andy Kaufman-like prank. After being goaded by a woman in the audience (who some argue had been planted),[7] Glover stated that he "knew that this was gonna happen" and that "the press, they can do things, they can twist things around". After challenging Letterman to an arm-wrestling match, Glover delivered an impromptu karate kick a few feet from Letterman while stating, "I'm strong... I can kick!"[8] Letterman then abruptly ended the segment by walking off stage, saying "I'm going to check on the Top 10", as the program cut to commercial.

The subsequent confusion and controversy surrounding his appearance was compounded by the fact that Rubin and Ed was not actually released until 1991; however, the movie had been in development since before Back to the Future — Crispin had actually already devised Rubin's "look" by 1985.[9] Almost no-one, apparently including Letterman, understood what Glover was doing and the interview became the hallmark of the "weird" TV guest.

From that, it sounds less like a meltdown than a publicity stunt that went badly due to the timing of the release of the show. The wiki makes it sound like Letterman didn't know about the prank.

[Gyrate]

Originally Posted by Nobody

I read about it a few years ago and basically they, or at least Barry, just got sick of Clive constantly making jokes about them and their music. He took it too far.
Here's Maurice Gibb talking about it

I saw it. Clive's shtick is making funny little digs at people. In the right context this can be amusing - I much preferred him to Drew Carey as WLIIA host - but when you're the host of a talk show mocking your guests is a dick move, and he was basically being a dick to the Bee Gees. It wasn't a huge offense but they had no reason to stay there and put up with it.

The show tanked soon after.

[Nobody]

Funny thing was, he didn't seem to mean any harm. He was just clueless about how annoying he was being. You can tell because after they walk out he has a, oh shit, what have I done, look on his face.

[Acsenray]

Come on, Clive has made a career of riding the line of obnoxiousness and insult. He knew what he was saying; he just was used to people taking it from him.

[RickJay]

Originally Posted by salinqmind

Crispin Glover was on David Letterman twice more (or maybe more?) after his stupid stunt, according to his Wikipedia entry. I don't know if DL was in on it, though.

Sure was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFePP...eature=related

[Nobody]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Come on, Clive has made a career of riding the line of obnoxiousness and insult. He knew what he was saying; he just was used to people taking it from him.

Well, being an American, I only really saw him on Whose Line, so I'll take your word for it. But even him knowing he's annoying the look on his face was still one of shock, embarrassment, and sadness as he was begging Maurice to stay.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Heffalump and Roo

I just watched the clip and looked up Crispin Glover on wiki. Here's what wiki had to say about it.

From that, it sounds less like a meltdown than a publicity stunt that went badly due to the timing of the release of the show. The wiki makes it sound like Letterman didn't know about the prank.

Even knowing it's an act, I wouldn't want someone kicking that close to my face, and would want to get out.

Plus, it's not as if Glover has come off as sane in other contexts. The thing about the meltdown story is that it's believable based on his current reclusivity. I personally think he must have had some sort of breakdown, even if this was not actually it.

Then again, I also think Cruise's jumping on the couch was a stunt, too. It was intended to make him seem "crazy in love" with Homes, and fight off the gay rumors.

[etv78]

Glover's ego also got him written out of the BTTF sequels.

[RandMcnally]

My favorite meltdown was Steve-o's on that show Adam Carolla had for a bit. If I remember correctly, Steve-o was really, really drunk.

[Indistinguishable]

Originally Posted by Nobody

Well, being an American, I only really saw him on Whose Line, so I'll take your word for it. But even him knowing he's annoying the look on his face was still one of shock, embarrassment, and sadness as he was begging Maurice to stay.

The weird thing, and the thing which must have seemed particularly confusing to Clive, is that the particular line that sent Barry over the edge was rather innocuous. The song "Don't Forget to Remember" is mentioned and Clive jokes "I've forgotten that one." Just a play on the title, rather than a dig at the band, as such... Still, I suppose it was the last straw; Barry seems to have been brooding throughout about the "tossers" thing from the beginning.

[Cumbrian]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Didn't Clive Anderson host a travel program in the early 1990s in which he went around the world being rude to people?

I think you might be thinking of Clive James - he certainly did that type of programme in the early 90s.

[glaeken]

I remember watching the Clive Anderson Bee Gees interview when it was first broadcast and I knew that Barry was getting pretty upset at Clive’s comments. It's actually all about his body language. Watch that leg twitch away. It was still a surprise when he decided to walk but I found the whole interview had an uneasy vibe about it.

Another very awkward interview from UK TV was Frank Skinner and interviewing Matthew Kelly. I am not sure if either of those will known outside of the UK though. Matthew Kelly had been charged with paedophilia types charges that he was cleared of but decided to bring up the fact that Frank Skinner had made a joke about these charges during a stand-up act while he was being interviewed by Skinner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Vxi...watch_response

[Hamlet]

Originally Posted by glaeken

I remember watching the Clive Anderson Bee Gees interview when it was first broadcast and I knew that Barry was getting pretty upset at Clive’s comments. It's actually all about his body language. Watch that leg twitch away. It was still a surprise when he decided to walk but I found the whole interview had an uneasy vibe about it.

They're the fucking Bee Gees. When you are the poster band for a musical movement that has become a joke, you either stop taking yourselves so seriously and learn to laugh at yourselves or you end up like that. Maurice didn't get all pissy over a few throw away lines in an otherwise positive interview (he talked about their early music, the breakup, and more than just their gold flame jacket period), probably because he's not taking himself too seriously. Maybe it was just a bad day, but Barry needs to learn to laugh at himself.

[Loach]

Originally Posted by hajario

Crispin was a good friend of mine when we were teens. I assure you that he was playing a character. Letterman wasn't in on the joke but it was a joke.

Letterman certainly wasn't in on it.

Originally Posted by hajario

Sorry. I meant to say that Letterman might not have been in on the joke. I have no idea.

Originally Posted by Paranoid Randroid

I honestly don’t doubt it was a joke, as the silliness was too extreme (IMO) to make a real breakdown or drug trip near as likely. But as a joke it fairly well bombed; getting himself more or less kicked off the show just made him look like a doofus. And if he was genuinely going for Kaufman-esque audience-confusion-as-art then he doesn’t appear to have had the constitution to keep going with it.

Not only did it bomb. It helped to torpedo his career. Along with weird behavior on the set.

[glaeken]

Originally Posted by Hamlet

They're the fucking Bee Gees. When you are the poster band for a musical movement that has become a joke, you either stop taking yourselves so seriously and learn to laugh at yourselves or you end up like that. Maurice didn't get all pissy over a few throw away lines in an otherwise positive interview (he talked about their early music, the breakup, and more than just their gold flame jacket period), probably because he's not taking himself too seriously. Maybe it was just a bad day, but Barry needs to learn to laugh at himself.

I was on Andersen’s side. Barry Gibb took himself far too seriously. I would imagine he just had not come across someone who did not fawn all over him recently when he did that interview. He seemed to have no idea that some might not take the Bee Gees seriously.

[hajario]

Originally Posted by etv78

Glover's ego also got him written out of the BTTF sequels.

He just wanted the same money as Fox and they didn't want to pay him. The film makers got another actor and gave him a fake nose and chin to make him look like Crispin. Crispin sued because he thought that he should have been paid since they used his likeness. He won and in doing so made new law so now other actors can't be ripped off that way.

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by etv78

Glover's ego also got him written out of the BTTF sequels.

It wasn't "ego." It was a contract dispute.

And if he had been "written out" that would have been one thing. What the studio decided to do instead was to get someone to impersonate him. In other words, have him in the movie without paying him.

I've been beat to it, I see. Serves me right for not refreshing.

[WOOKINPANUB]

Sort of off topic but is the Andersen/Bee Gees incident the inspiration for the SNL skit "The Barry Gibb Talk Show"? I never understood where the heck they came up with that idea.

[etv78]

Thanks for the Glover clarification. "Written out" is obviously not what I should've said. "Recast" was the right word. BTW, it was "ego" that made him think he was as important as Fox to the movie.

[hajario]

Originally Posted by etv78

Thanks for the Glover clarification. "Written out" is obviously not what I should've said. "Recast" was the right word. BTW, it was "ego" that made him think he was as important as Fox to the movie.

If he was so unimportant, why did they go through the trouble of making prosthetics to make the other actor look like him?

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by etv78

BTW, it was "ego" that made him think he was as important as Fox to the movie.

You have no way of knowing that.

Just wanting as much money as Fox got doesn't mean he "thought he was important as Fox to the movie." It just means that that's how much it was worth to him in order to bother being in the movie.

As to his importance, the fact that they got someone to impersonate him is kind of proof that he was important to the movie. Whether he was "as important as Fox" really is beside the point.

They wanted to use his persona, his appearance, his mannerism ... they wanted to use him, but they weren't willing to pay what he asked. You don't get to bypass that. Either you pay or you do without.

[hajario]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

You have no way of knowing that.

Just wanting as much money as Fox got doesn't mean he "thought he was important as Fox to the movie." It just means that that's how much it was worth to him in order to bother being in the movie.

As to his importance, the fact that they got someone to impersonate him is kind of proof that he was important to the movie. Whether he was "as important as Fox" really is beside the point.

They wanted to use his persona, his appearance, his mannerism ... they wanted to use him, but they weren't willing to pay what he asked. You don't get to bypass that. Either you pay or you do without.

Yep. They could have written out the character. They could have pulled a "Darren Stevens" and got a similar looking actor to interpret the role his way. What they did was bullshit and the courts agreed.

[Corcaigh]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Come on, Clive has made a career of riding the line of obnoxiousness and insult. He knew what he was saying; he just was used to people taking it from him.

Wasn't he the guy who coined the phrase "is there no beginning to your talents?"

[Earl Snake-Hips Tucker]

Originally Posted by hajario

. . .What they did was bullshit and the courts agreed.

Did they? According to this (yeah, hardly a neutral site), it was settled out of court. While it was a monetary victory, I don't know that it could be called a legal victory--IF it was settled out of court. I have no inside knowledge on it, but a quick look at Google News Archives seems to support that.

[hajario]

Originally Posted by Earl Snake-Hips Tucker

Did they? According to this (yeah, hardly a neutral site), it was settled out of court. While it was a monetary victory, I don't know that it could be called a legal victory--IF it was settled out of court. I have no inside knowledge on it, but a quick look at Google News Archives seems to support that.

You're right. My recollection was off. I believe that SAG rules were changed as a result and that no studio will pull crap like that again.

[Saint Cad]

Yay Jim Everett.

[Nobody]

Although not as exciting as the previous example, there's Jon Stewart on Crossfire. Of course he started the show pissed off to begin with, but I think this counts.

[etv78]

Originally Posted by Nobody

Although not as exciting as the previous example, there's Jon Stewart on Crossfire. Of course he started the show pissed off to begin with, but I think this counts.

<Jon Stewart> "My lead in is puppets making crank phone calls!" <Jon Stewart>

[Saint Cad]

Originally Posted by Nobody

Although not as exciting as the previous example, there's Jon Stewart on Crossfire. Of course he started the show pissed off to begin with, but I think this counts.

He won when he said, "The show leading into me is puppets making prank phones calls."

[Headrush042]

Originally Posted by hajario

You're right. My recollection was off. I believe that SAG rules were changed as a result and that no studio will pull crap like that again.

Yep, it became a SAG rule precisely because of that lawsuit.

According to Glover, they didn't just offer him less than Fox. They offered him less than half of what any of the other returning actors were getting. So yeah, I wouldn't call that egotistical, personally.