Gay marriage

Let’s put this damn issue to rest already.

Let anyone marry anyone or anything. Mkay?

All the issues we face in this world, and this stupid issue is still beaten to death.

So, here’s a poll. Who’s for it and who’s against it. If against, please explain.

This may be one of the most predictable polls this board has ever seen. At least I hope so.

I should have made it public :smack:

So you have to be FOR or AGAINST it now? Why can’t you be a DON’T CARE, leave 'em alone type of guy?

The government should manage civil unions where any two adults can have one.

Then religions can have some extra thing called a “marriage” which the government is free to ignore.

I guess it’s a measure of society’s progress that you can now be supportive of same-sex marriage and express that support using a famous anti-same-sex-marriage cliche.

Fuck that. If it quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, then it’s a duck. Two people getting together for life is marriage, not a civil union.

But, I do agree with you.

Simple black and white who’s for or against? Should be easily predictable. How it’s handled? That’s where it gets ugly.

Why?

What if you are AGAINST heterosexual marriage?

Because there is a panoply of ideas and personal perspectives of how marriage (straight and/or gay) should be defined and handled religously, legislatively and socially.

There’s one huge logistical problem with that. Existing marriages, especially hetero ones, would suffer a change in status. The protest of “Gays want to destroy traditional marriage” would then be true. Better to raise everyone up than to pull a huge amount of the population down.

Nobody would be “pulled down” and there would really not be much of a change from the way things are handled now. But I agree it’s not going to happen because this kind of change would be perceived the way you are describing.

:rolleyes:

Considering I’m in one, I’d say that falls on the “For” category.

What are you rolling your eyes at? “If you let gays marry, you have to let anybody marry anyone or anything” is a very well-worn cliche. It’s been used by hordes of people opposed to gay marriage, from Rick Santorum to Bill O’Reilly on down. I am not trying to dampen your support here because I am always glad to see people getting this right, but it’s a poor statement of the argument. Do you actually think the government should recognize marriages between adults and small children, for example? And I don’t much care personally about the concept of trivializing marriage, but I’m sure you can see where some people would object to “let anyone marry anything.”

Nothing, personal, Marley. It’s just roll-your-eyes at **Marley23 **day. :rolleyes:

I’m not “for gay marriage.” I’m “for equal rights” witch happens to include gay marriage.

For me personally? Against it.

For someone who actually is gay, and wants to get married? Fine, why not?

The thing is the government is in the marriage business. If a man and a woman go down to city hall they get married by a judge not civil unioned.

As far a religions are concerned if they don’t want to perform gay marriage I guess that is their business. I believe at one time Catholics that were divorced couldn’t get married in a Catholic church, same thing.

A civil union and a marriage aren’t the same thing. Marriage should be for anyone that wants it.