Fuck McAfee and their shady business practices.

[MostlyClueless]

Yup, I've got McAfee. Came preinstalled.

Every week or so, it bugs me with 'helpful hints' about upgrades or other crap they want to sell me. Annoying enough on its own, but so be it.

Just now, I got a message (paraphrased)

"One of the computers on your home network (ACTUAL NETWORK NAME OF COMPUTER) is insufficiently protected. Click here to buy McAfee for this computer."

What the actual fuck? They snoop around on my home network and have the gall to admit to it?

[Vinyl Turnip]

They gave you a convenient button to click... what more do you want?

[samclem]

Commercial protection, Mcafee, Norton, etc. are resource hogs. You don't need them.

We've had multiple threads on here about how to protect your computer without the commercial types.

[Saint Cad]

What's the big deal? Just type in
scan c: /clean
and get rid of that pesky Jerusalem B virus.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Uninstall it fer chrissakes. Install a less intrusive and free AV like Avast. Then install the also free version of Malwarebytes. You will not get a virus again, as long as you avoid the most questionable of all internet content.

[Leaffan]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

Uninstall it fer chrissakes. Install a less intrusive and free AV like Avast. Then install the also free version of Malwarebytes. You will not get a virus again, as long as you avoid the most questionable of all internet content.

This. A few years ago I was getting viruses all the time at home: shared computer with curious kids (OK me too). Since installing Avast I've had very few problems. If something did seem wonky, Malwarebytes came to the rescue.

[RaftPeople]

Originally Posted by samclem

Commercial protection, Mcafee, Norton, etc. are resource hogs. You don't need them.

[Nigel]
How much worse could McAfee be?
And the answer is none.
None more worse.
[/Nigel]

[Gukumatz]

I could only wish Microsoft had opened one of their niche stores in Oslo. For Windows 8, they've got this Microsoft Signature thing they're rolling out, which is essentially removing all the bloatware that comes pre-installed with off-the-shelf computers. It's not worth $99 to me, since I usually set up a pendrive with the new OS and run a clean reinstall immediately after I get a new machine anyway, but I would sure as hell point three quarters of my friends and family to the store.

But I like the way they think. (And I'm crossing my fingers that they'll make some sort of app for this they'll release later.)

[Zebra]

Originally Posted by RaftPeople

[Nigel]
How much worse could McAfee be?
And the answer is none.
None more worse.
[/Nigel]

My McAfee started telling me it was time to renew, just click here about 8 months before it was time to renew. This was some sort of "Glitch" allegedly. Total scam I say.

[Jeep's Phoenix]

Having dealt with both McAfee and Norton, I much prefer Norton's "OMG SECURITY THREAT SECURITY THREAT: 9 cookies have been detected" to McAfee's constant demands for renewal. (Yes, the program came pre-installed in both cases.)

[Bryan Ekers]

Just remember to wish Joshi a happy birthday.

[Jamicat]

Just the other day, as one of my cats kept swiping at my pointer on the screen, I thought I'd get one of them there fancy fish tank screen savers, and watch the kitty fun...











Good thing It was the weekend and had the time and tools to fight back.

I hate Hackers.

[Folacin]

Originally Posted by Leaffan

This. A few years ago I was getting viruses all the time at home: shared computer with curious kids (OK me too). Since installing Avast I've had very few problems. If something did seem wonky, Malwarebytes came to the rescue.

Note that porn sites are apparently fairly clean these days - it's church sites you need to look out for. The porn sites know it's bad for business to distribute malware (at least the main ones), and the church sites are put up by volunteers who don't know the first thing about locking down their sites.

[Leaffan]

Originally Posted by Folacin

Note that porn sites are apparently fairly clean these days - it's church sites you need to look out for. The porn sites know it's bad for business to distribute malware (at least the main ones), and the church sites are put up by volunteers who don't know the first thing about locking down their sites.

When it comes to computer viruses, you’re now more likely to catch one visiting a church website than surfing for porn.

I find this strangely humourous.

ETA: And I really need to coach my kids about visiting these rogue church websites.

[Laudenum]

Originally Posted by Folacin

Note that porn sites are apparently fairly clean these days - it's church sites you need to look out for. The porn sites know it's bad for business to distribute malware (at least the main ones), and the church sites are put up by volunteers who don't know the first thing about locking down their sites.

What do you mean the main ones?
Are there really 'big players' in free online porn?

[Yorikke]

Originally Posted by Laudenum

What do you mean the main ones?
Are there really 'big players' in free online porn?

Absolutely. Redtube, Youporn, etc...

Joe

[bouv]

Originally Posted by Laudenum

What do you mean the main ones?
Are there really 'big players' in free online porn?

Yes, plenty.

I won't link to them, but just to name a few:
Fapdu
RedTube
YouPorn
SubmitYourFlicks
MyFreeCams (though this site looks sketchy, because of lazy programming, it's free of malware, AFAIK. I actually don't go there myself.)
Tube8

Most of these sites operate by having small clips that are given to them from pay-porn-sites, and also full of ads from said porn sites, to entice you to sign up. So you'll get a three or four minutes video, and think to yourself,
"Man, I'd really like to see that full-length...and others like it...maybe it is worth $10 a month..."

[gamerunknown]

According to alexa, xhamster, xvideos and pornhub are in the top 100 most visited sites online.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by MostlyClueless

Yup, I've got McAfee. Came preinstalled.

Every week or so, it bugs me with 'helpful hints' about upgrades or other crap they want to sell me. Annoying enough on its own, but so be it.

Just now, I got a message (paraphrased)

"One of the computers on your home network (ACTUAL NETWORK NAME OF COMPUTER) is insufficiently protected. Click here to buy McAfee for this computer."

What the actual fuck? They snoop around on my home network and have the gall to admit to it?

McAfee is a virus disguised as virus protection. It sucks up resources, puts ads in your face, and is nearly impossible to remove. This last bit was the final straw for me -- I was trying to remove it from my dad's computer a couple of years ago so I could install Avast and it was ridiculously difficult. Infuriating.

[Bookkeeper]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

McAfee is a virus disguised as virus protection. It sucks up resources, puts ads in your face, and is nearly impossible to remove. This last bit was the final straw for me -- I was trying to remove it from my dad's computer a couple of years ago so I could install Avast and it was ridiculously difficult. Infuriating.

Frustrating as this may be, I would count nearly impossible to remove as a feature, not a bug. If anti-malware programs were easy to uninstall, some hacker would figure out how to write a virus that would do it without your knowledge.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Bookkeeper

Frustrating as this may be, I would count nearly impossible to remove as a feature, not a bug. If anti-malware programs were easy to uninstall, some hacker would figure out how to write a virus that would do it without your knowledge.

I get the point you're trying to make, but you're wrong. Obfuscation is not security. Conversely, something can be perfectly straightforward to use and still be secure. The fact that it's easy for me to log into my online banking account and pay my water bill doesn't mean that everyone on the Internet can steal my money, nor would hiding the bill payment screen under ten submenus make my money any more or less secure.

[black rabbit]

Originally Posted by Bookkeeper

Frustrating as this may be, I would count nearly impossible to remove as a feature, not a bug. If anti-malware programs were easy to uninstall, some hacker would figure out how to write a virus that would do it without your knowledge.

Wrong. Even if it's hard to uninstall, the hacker only needs to figure out how to do it once.

Errr... what Giraffe said.

Anyway, for home users, there is absolutely no reason to use anything other than Microsoft Security Essentials. It's the least intrusive AV program I've ever used, hands down, and I'll probably be moving my company to the enterprise version once the subscription to our current vendor runs out.

[YogSosoth]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

Uninstall it fer chrissakes. Install a less intrusive and free AV like Avast. Then install the also free version of Malwarebytes. You will not get a virus again, as long as you avoid the most questionable of all internet content.

But that's where the best porn is located!

[digs]

Originally Posted by bouv

Yes, plenty.

I won't link to them, but just to name a few:
Fapdu
RedTube
YouPorn
SubmitYourFlicks
MyFreeCams (though this site looks sketchy, because of lazy programming, it's free of malware, AFAIK. I actually don't go there myself.)
Tube8
[sneeep]

Umm, isn't posting this a little like offering your friends a drink... that's highly addictive and often poisonous but tastes reeeeally good?

(and if my wife sees this post, I'm posting metaphorically/symbolically/innocent-of-all-chargesly)

[gamerunknown]

Remember, browse safely. (all SFW btw)

[The Tao's Revenge]

Originally Posted by bouv

I won't link to them, but just to name a few:
Fapdu
RedTube
YouPorn
SubmitYourFlicks
MyFreeCams (though this site looks sketchy, because of lazy programming, it's free of malware, AFAIK. I actually don't go there myself.)
Tube8

I'll be in my bunk