Food Fadists - STFU

[gamerunknown]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

11 years this coming August

blogger.com was launched in 1999.

[Patience Jones]

Originally Posted by Silophant

Exactly. That's why he needs to lighten up first, so his weight stays more or less constant over time.

*takes copious notes*

[Mighty_Girl]

Originally Posted by gamerunknown

blogger.com was launched in 1999.

So? It wasn't called "blogging", but writing about food, food-related stuff and posting recipes on a weekly basis is the same thing (my first site was html, then it was customized php, then Wordpress). They created the platform, I grant you that, but not the concept.

[Mighty_Girl]

Originally Posted by Tibby or Not Tibby

Your demure, sophisticated manner, tortures me to think you're the one that should have been my soul mate,not the barbarian I ended up marrying. I quite linguistically don’t comprehend virginally anything else you’re trying to say in that post, so I’m going to call it a night.

Sorry, I wouldn't marry you. Then you'll be telling everybody how my farts gave you asthma, or that you are allergic to farts or some such.

[Mighty_Girl]

And I meant to quote post #123 in post #134, sorry for the confusion.

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by Lynn Bodoni

I can eat bell pepper, if that's what you mean by red pepper. Someone else seemed to use "red pepper" as a synonym for cayenne, which I can't eat.

MOST people use it as a synonym for cayenne. If you can eat bell pepper but not cayenne, and they are are closely related, I'm suspicious of your claims that you are allergic to cayenne. Were you tested for these allergies or did you convince yourself you were allergic to red pepper because it has the same name as black pepper? Is your reaction to red pepper something besides a spicy hot sensation in your mouth? Is your reaction to black pepper that it makes you sneeze?

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by Tibby or Not Tibby

Hey, I gotta ask, are my posts actually showing up in this thread? I mean, I got off some pretty good zingers upthread, worthy at the very least of a small golf clap. Yet, the only who has responded to any of my posts, is me. I’m virtually aghast that literally no one has responded to anything I’ve written in this thread. I demand a golf clap. Just do it. I’m feeling asthmatic.

I'm sorry, but speaking as a chordate I thought you don’t feel too safe around us and I didn't want to make you feel uncomfortable by paying any attention to you whatsomenever.

[Tibby or Not Tibby]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

Sorry, I wouldn't marry you.

Well, that’s just plain mean spirited. Particularly considering you featured prominently in the dream I just had. And, my goodness, what a dream it was! It started off pleasantly enough, but Boy Howdy did it turn into a nightmare of epic proportions toward the end.

To protect the names of the innocent, I’ll just describe it in stream of consciousness, staccato style:

Me; silk smoking jacket; bottle of merlot; cigar; ding-dong…Well, Hello; Mighty; Spandex; cheeseburgers; yum; ding-dong…hey, join the party; Lynn; fetish ballet shoes; pepper steak; yum; ding-dong; who the fu…?; Olive’s Husband; leather chaps; tomato surprise; hogtied; hey, whaddya doing with my cigar?; ;non-consensual; chorus of trumpet, French horn and tuba; oh, the humanity; losing consciousness…

(just kidding )

[Lynn Bodoni]

Originally Posted by dropzone

MOST people use it as a synonym for cayenne. If you can eat bell pepper but not cayenne, and they are are closely related, I'm suspicious of your claims that you are allergic to cayenne. Were you tested for these allergies or did you convince yourself you were allergic to red pepper because it has the same name as black pepper? Is your reaction to red pepper something besides a spicy hot sensation in your mouth? Is your reaction to black pepper that it makes you sneeze?

My reaction to eating too much black pepper, white pepper, cayenne pepper, and a lot of other foods ranges from an upset stomach to (gotta say it here) explosive diarrhea. The severity of the symptoms depends on how much of the offending substance I've eaten. I've kept food diaries. I asked a couple of doctors about getting tested, and they said that my diaries indicate that I do have sensitivities, at least. Maybe allergies, maybe just sensitivities, but in either case, the treatment would be the same thing.

I RARELY have low blood sugar episodes. Very rarely. I've been an insulin dependent diabetic for many, many years, though, and I'm not perfect. Sometimes I do make mistakes. I might try to do too much in one day, and try to deny my limitations. I almost always do carry glucose tablets with me. However, the glucose tablets are a short term fix, meant to stop the episode in a few minutes, and I'm supposed to follow this up by eating some protein and fat. The glucose will hit my blood very quickly, but it will also be processed quickly and if I don't have a longer acting food in my system, then I'm going to have another damn episode. I'm amazed at all the people who claim to be diabetic who don't know this. It's one of the first things I was taught in diabetes education classes. And I'm an insulin dependent diabetic. I don't think that I ever had a serious low blood sugar episode when I was on just the pills. It's that fast acting insulin that can drop the blood sugar in just a few minutes' time.

Both of my grandmothers were insulin dependent diabetics. Both my parents are/were insulin dependent. So is my sister. For the most part, we know how to handle this sort of stuff, but there are still times when Life happens, and not everything goes according to plan. And then, when I ask for something like some sugar, I get handed a bunch of artificial sweetener, and the server thinks I'm being a drama queen when I insist that I need SUGAR. In some places, there's no sugar on the table. You have to flag down a server to get it. Yeah, it's weird, but it happens.

I don't like living with these issues, and I wish that they didn't come up. But no matter how hard I've tried to deny them, they happen. I don't know why other people are invested in the idea that if they holler at me enough, that I will suddenly become able to eat whatever I want. I can't. I can't eat some things at all without having problems. And other things, I can eat only limited amounts of (my tolerance for bacon is a little less than one full slice a day, for instance) (it is a shame to leave a slice of bacon on my plate at a restaurant, but more of a shame to be sick later on). For the most part, I really don't affect other people when I'm dining out, because I know what I can handle and what I can't, and I don't bitch and moan about it at the table. I will ask questions (does the potato soup have pepper in it?), but most people who eat with me are people that I know, and who know what happens when I do eat pepper.

[mister nyx]

Originally Posted by Lynn Bodoni

but most people who eat with me are people that I know, and who know what happens when I do eat pepper.

Yes, I have no difficulty imagining that virtually everyone who knows you personally knows in great detail everything that happens to your bowels when you eat, given your lack of reluctance to share it in great detail with strangers.

[Anne Neville]

Originally Posted by rachelellogram

Then she took half an hour and a massive stack of napkins to laboriously press the grease out

People who do this- ewww. Pressing grease out of your food with napkins is disgusting!

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

I am not a picky eater, but prefer to eat mostly vegetables, fish or seafood as a second choice, meat is almost never a choice. I just came from a restaurant where there wasn't a single vegetarian-friendly meal, not even a salad. Of course my experiment in Vegan living lasted a whole of two months, but I feel extremely sorry for vegetarians if they go to that restaurant, other than the wine there wasn't a single thing they could eat.

I'm not vegetarian, but I don't eat meat or chicken in non-kosher restaurants. My approach to restaurants like that is... don't eat there. It's not as if there aren't other restaurants that are friendlier to my dietary needs.

[al27052]

Originally Posted by mister nyx

Yes, I have no difficulty imagining that virtually everyone who knows you personally knows in great detail everything that happens to your bowels when you eat, given your lack of reluctance to share it in great detail with strangers.

Get a clue. If you had similar problems, you'd probably be doing about the same.

I don't fault you for your lack of compassion, though. It's human nature to not have compassion if we haven't had some sort of similar suffering, and you clearly haven't.

[mister nyx]

Originally Posted by al27052

Get a clue. If you had similar problems, you'd probably be doing about the same.

So you're faulting me for not being compassionate enough?

I don't fault you for your lack of compassion, though. It's human nature to not have compassion if we haven't had some sort of similar suffering, and you clearly haven't.

Wait, which is it?

Are you and BigT in some sort of stupidest poster competition?

[Mighty_Girl]

Originally Posted by Anne Neville

I'm not vegetarian, but I don't eat meat or chicken in non-kosher restaurants. My approach to restaurants like that is... don't eat there. It's not as if there aren't other restaurants that are friendlier to my dietary needs.

Sometimes, for a reason or another, I have no choice. Luckily my not eating meat is not a religious or ethical dilemma for me, I just prefer not to. I also prefer if the people with me don't have to spend any time pondering about my dietary choices. So I just shut up and eat as best as I can.

I am aware that doing this is not possible for some people (allergies, religion, ethics, whatever), but it works for me.

[al27052]

Originally Posted by mister nyx

So you're faulting me for not being compassionate enough?


Wait, which is it?

Are you and BigT in some sort of stupidest poster competition?

I certainly can't fault you for your lack of life experience, can I? If you don't have it, you don't have it. It would be like faulting you for being rude toward someone who was complaining about changing a flat tire in the rain at night, if you've never even touched a tire.

[fumster]

Originally Posted by al27052

I certainly can't fault you for your lack of life experience, can I? If you don't have it, you don't have it. It would be like faulting you for being rude toward someone who was complaining about changing a flat tire in the rain at night, if you've never even touched a tire.

It's not that I don't LIKE changing a tire in the rain at night, I CAN'T. It's not a choice. When I touch rubber I break out. If the tire has been heated to more than 118 degrees I get violently ill. The human body was not designed to change tires (except for the few parts of the world where the tire changing gene mutation is common). It's not just one kind of tire either; I'm allergic (or sensitive) to 135 kinds of tires: truck, small cars, large cars, pickups, and wagons. You have no idea how inconvenient this is. My cousin's doctor (he is a 'doctor' even though he's a Naturopath) told him that some tires have chemicals that are derived from animal sources, so even if I could actually touch the tire I refuse to do so.

Now sometimes I might be able to tolerate changing a small tire, especially if I'm going someplace like a wedding, but just because you saw me change a tire before doesn't mean I can do it again.

[purplehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by Anne Neville

People who do this- ewww. Pressing grease out of your food with napkins is disgusting! ....

Rude, I could see, maybe ... but disgusting?

[al27052]

Originally Posted by fumster

It's not that I don't LIKE changing a tire in the rain at night, I CAN'T. It's not a choice. When I touch rubber I break out. If the tire has been heated to more than 118 degrees I get violently ill. The human body was not designed to change tires (except for the few parts of the world where the tire changing gene mutation is common). It's not just one kind of tire either; I'm allergic (or sensitive) to 135 kinds of tires: truck, small cars, large cars, pickups, and wagons. You have no idea how inconvenient this is. My cousin's doctor (he is a 'doctor' even though he's a Naturopath) told him that some tires have chemicals that are derived from animal sources, so even if I could actually touch the tire I refuse to do so.

Now sometimes I might be able to tolerate changing a small tire, especially if I'm going someplace like a wedding, but just because you saw me change a tire before doesn't mean I can do it again.

You're not helping your credibility. Again, not blaming, just pointing out.

[flatlined]

I totally believe that some people have very real allergies. I know that bad things will happen to them if they eat the wrong thing. I don't think that people who are always sensitive to certain foods are who the OP was pitting.

Its the ones who say that they are allergic when they just don't like something who upset me. The person I mentioned upthread who has the food allergy of the day, unless she likes it makes me nuts.

People like Lynn, who are always sensitive or allergic to certain things are the ones who get told to just suck it up, or even worse get fed stuff that will make her sick so the controlling fuck can see her eat and not die right away while laughing...see...you aren't really allergic afterall. You ate pepper and nothing happened, hahahaha.

I try to avoid eating anything that walks and breaths air. I'm not allergic, but my system isn't used to eating that sort of stuff anymore. When I do eat something that has been made with meat, my distress isn't instant, but its very real.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by curlcoat

I am allergic to all fresh fruits and vegetables that I've been tested for, plus others I've had reactions to, so I just avoid them all.

I think most of us would agree that the the term "LOL" is overused and seldom meant literally, but there are times when nothing else will suffice.

[curlcoat]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

I think most of us would agree that the the term "LOL" is overused and seldom meant literally, but there are times when nothing else will suffice.

Food allergies make you laugh out loud?

[Steophan]

Originally Posted by curlcoat

Food allergies make you laugh out loud?

No. Posts that, if not a joke are an outright lie, make people laugh You are not allergic to fruit and vegetables.

[coffeecat]

Isn't a locavore someone who only eats crazy Spanish women? (Nava?)

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by curlcoat

Food allergies make you laugh out loud?

Not so much that. But if I were— let's say an unsigned editorialist— tasked with dreaming up a list of questionable ailments suffered by a stereotypical Straight Doper, I could do no better than a mysterious allergy that excludes all fresh fruits and vegetables, yet happily permits French fries and donuts.

[troubledwater]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

Not so much that. But if I were— let's say an unsigned editorialist— tasked with dreaming up a list of questionable ailments suffered by a stereotypical Straight Doper, I could do no better than a mysterious allergy that excludes all fresh fruits and vegetables, yet happily permits French fries and donuts.

Could easily be Oral Allergy Syndrome, which is fairly specific to unprocessed fruits and vegetables, because the offending proteins are denatured by cooking.

Unlike many food reactions, which are actually food intolerances, this is a true allergy.

[Doug K.]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

So? It wasn't called "blogging", but writing about food, food-related stuff and posting recipes on a weekly basis is the same thing (my first site was html, then it was customized php, then Wordpress). They created the platform, I grant you that, but not the concept.

This is a bit of a hijack, but blogging has been called blogging since at least May of 1999.

Cite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_blogging

[Tibby or Not Tibby]

I’m allergic to everything except salt, and it has to be locally grown, free-range salt harvested cruelty-free, with no parabens and not processed within the same zip code of a peanut.

[lorene]

Originally Posted by troubledwater

Could easily be Oral Allergy Syndrome, which is fairly specific to unprocessed fruits and vegetables, because the offending proteins are denatured by cooking.

Unlike many food reactions, which are actually food intolerances, this is a true allergy.

I have OAS. It does not cover all fruits and vegetables that exist in the world. That Wikipedia link has a list of associated fruits and vegetables, and I notice a lack of leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables, for example.

[Max Torque]

"I would like a bowl of boiling hot water, with ice, but I don't want the ice to melt and get all small. And I want my turkey sandwich cut into fourteen quadrants, I know it's impossible but quadrants, and dropped onto my plate from a height of ten feet with an attitude of regret. Tee hee, sorry to be such a pain!"

-- Maria Bamford

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by Steophan

I think they'll tell the truth, which is that humans have been drinking milk for (at least) tens of thousands of years without any problems, and it hasn't suddenly become a problem in the last 50.

Some people have. Some people haven't. (Some) Southeast Asians are particularly susceptible to lactose intolerance because they don't have a history of dairy consumption.

[fumster]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Some people have. Some people haven't. (Some) Southeast Asians are particularly susceptible to lactose intolerance because they don't have a history of dairy consumption.

Thanks for being the first person in the thread to point this out.

What's odd though, is that it is invariably pasty, white people who whine about dairy allergies. It's not like African American neighborhoods are full of pizzerias with non-dairy cheese or coffee shops with soy milk. Mexican tiendas seem to be chock-a-block with cheese, sour cream, and ice cream, and they have a higher incidence of lactose intolerance than Northern Europeans.

[Really Not All That Bright]

I'm not sure if you are being facetious or not but either way I wasn't going to wade through 5 pages of people whining about how Brussels sprouts influence their bowel movements.

[Mighty_Girl]

Originally Posted by Doug K.

This is a bit of a hijack, but blogging has been called blogging since at least May of 1999.

Cite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_blogging

Thanks. If anything, that proves my point.

[curlcoat]

Originally Posted by Steophan

No. Posts that, if not a joke are an outright lie, make people laugh You are not allergic to fruit and vegetables.

Really? What diagnostic criteria caused you to arrive at that?

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

Not so much that. But if I were— let's say an unsigned editorialist— tasked with dreaming up a list of questionable ailments suffered by a stereotypical Straight Doper, I could do no better than a mysterious allergy that excludes all fresh fruits and vegetables, yet happily permits French fries and donuts.

Since the two (fresh fruits and vegetables vs French fries and donuts) have almost nothing in common, you sound like you really have zero idea what causes an allergic reaction.

Originally Posted by troubledwater

Could easily be Oral Allergy Syndrome, which is fairly specific to unprocessed fruits and vegetables, because the offending proteins are denatured by cooking.

Unlike many food reactions, which are actually food intolerances, this is a true allergy.

I wasn't aware it had a name, but yes that is it. If I eat enough of some fruits/veggies or even a little of a few, the reaction starts at the lips, then the mouth, then closes up the throat. Because the allergy waxes and wanes, it just makes life simpler to eat as little fresh fruit and veggies that I can tho there are a handful I avoid no matter what.

Originally Posted by lorene

I have OAS. It does not cover all fruits and vegetables that exist in the world. That Wikipedia link has a list of associated fruits and vegetables, and I notice a lack of leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables, for example.

I didn't say I was allergic to them all, I said I was allergic to all I'd been tested for as well as a few others I've had reactions to. I suppose it's possible to be allergic to lettuce or celery, but I'm not.

Interesting to see nuts on that Wiki link - as far as I know I am not allergic to any nuts.

[Steophan]

Originally Posted by curlcoat

Really? What diagnostic criteria caused you to arrive at that?

The fact that you're a proven liar and attention whore. The fact that you've just admitted to not even knowing the name of the allergy you claim to have. And the fact that you've just said that, unlike what you claimed in your original post, you are allergic to only some of them, and most of them only mildly.

[curlcoat]

Originally Posted by Steophan

The fact that you're a proven liar and attention whore. The fact that you've just admitted to not even knowing the name of the allergy you claim to have. And the fact that you've just said that, unlike what you claimed in your original post, you are allergic to only some of them, and most of them only mildly.

Oh honey, this isn't the way to save face when it's been proven to you that you are wrong! I am not a liar, much less "proven", if for no other reason than I have no need to do so. Attention whore? By saying I'm allergic to many fruits/veggies? Please. As for the name of the type of allergy, even if Wiki is correct regarding the name, I was tested for food allergies 20 and 30 years ago, so if it had a name back then, there has been plenty of time for me to forget it, if they even told me. Which I really doubt they did.

As for my original post on the subject, go back and read it again. Only if you are trying would you read that as me saying I am allergic to all fruits and veggies. C'mon - "I am allergic to all fresh fruits and vegetables that I've been tested for, plus others I've had reactions to, so I just avoid them all." - there are three different references to three different groups in that sentence. You can do better than that. Or is this serious lack of reading ability/comprehension/skimming how you "prove" I lie?

[aruvqan]

Originally Posted by Steophan

The fact that you're a proven liar and attention whore. The fact that you've just admitted to not even knowing the name of the allergy you claim to have. And the fact that you've just said that, unlike what you claimed in your original post, you are allergic to only some of them, and most of them only mildly.

Ah, because it is only a mild allergy, it isn't real. Interesting definition. Glad you aren't around, you would probably feed me mushrooms and refuse to call an ambulance because I am not really allergic to mushrooms because you have never seen me have an allergic attack from one before.

And if you notice in that article,it says this:

Reactions may begin with one type of food and with reactions to others developing later. However, reaction to one or more foods in any given category does not necessarily mean a person is allergic to all foods in that group.

Moronic post. If you are going to reference something, read it all first.

[Broomstick]

Originally Posted by Steophan

The fact that you're a proven liar and attention whore. The fact that you've just admitted to not even knowing the name of the allergy you claim to have. And the fact that you've just said that, unlike what you claimed in your original post, you are allergic to only some of them, and most of them only mildly.

You know, curlcoat isn't the only person on these boards to have OAS. Cross-reactions are common with the syndrome, and while the allergy might be described as "mild" that only means it's not life-threatening. It can be incredibly uncomfortable, even painful, result in copious mucus/snot production, coughing, sneezing, runny nose, sore throat, and hoarseness. Or maybe it's just a slight itching around the lips. It's impossible to predict and even in the same person varies from one day to another.

With nearly 50 years of dealing with allergies under my belt, it is common for docs to advise people with the more irritating forms of OAS to simply avoid raw (that is, fresh) fruits and vegetables of all sorts.

Originally Posted by curlcoat

As for the name of the type of allergy, even if Wiki is correct regarding the name, I was tested for food allergies 20 and 30 years ago, so if it had a name back then, there has been plenty of time for me to forget it, if they even told me. Which I really doubt they did.

Wiki is right on the name. I heard about it 30 years ago when I was undergoing allergy treatments so it was called that even way back then, but curlcoat is also correct that way back then docs weren't always so forthcoming about formal names to patients.

Originally Posted by aruvqan

Ah, because it is only a mild allergy, it isn't real. Interesting definition. Glad you aren't around, you would probably feed me mushrooms and refuse to call an ambulance because I am not really allergic to mushrooms because you have never seen me have an allergic attack from one before.

Ya, I recall all the docs who steered me away from allergy shots because they were sooooo painful and soooo burdensome and they didn't want me to suffer. Hey, you medical idiots, I am already suffering!!!

The allergist got it in one visit. Then again, he had allergies himself.

There is much to criticize about curlcoat, but the existence of OAS is not one of them. It's a real syndrome and it can cause real suffering that is alleviated by the simple expedient of not eating raw fruits and vegetables.

[Steophan]

Oh, Broomstick is on the case. Why should I believe you here any more than I should believe your magical kung fu leg breaking powers you claimed in another thread?

[Broomstick]

Because in that thread a bunch of jerks conflated my rather low key statements about fighting off a rapist with the Karate Kid, a work of fiction, after stating that I couldn't possibly be telling the truth about being sexually harassed by a customer at work. In other words, it was turned into a trainwreck by a bunch of bullies.

You're saying that because a poster says something doubtful everything else ever said by that Doper should be cast in doubt, even if it's something easily confirmed by a trip to Wikipedia followed by a 5 minute search on Google. Don't believe me? OK, no skin off my nose. Just Google "oral allergy syndrome" and do your own research.

[Steophan]

I've no doubt that it exists, or that some people have it. I doubt people who have been shown to be liars and attention whores, where its far more likely that an extremely minor issue, if there's even an issue at all, is being blown up into SPESHUL SNOWFLAYK territory.

You want to be believed? Don't cry wolf.

[Broomstick]

OK, we get it, you think curlcoat is full of crap. Regardless, you're wrong on this, oral allergy syndrome does exist and for the more troublesome instances the recommendation is, in fact, to avoid raw fruits and vegetables. If that still causes you brain cramps just rationalize it as a stopped clock is still correct twice a day.

Shall we move on?

Um... next food idiocy: raw foodists. Seriously, people, Homo erectus had fire 400,000 years ago. H. neanderthal had fire. Control (to some degree) of fire and cooking of food predates our species. And you're telling me cooking food is unnatural? BS. Fire and H. sapiens goes together like tool use and H. sapiens. I defy anyone to name me a human culture or tribe that never cooked its food.

[Steophan]

Which part of "I've no doubt that it exists, or that some people have it" did you fail to comprehend?

Also, curlcoat claimed to be allergic to fresh fruit and vegetables, not raw. Whilst most fresh fruit is consumed raw, most vegetables aren't. That, along with not knowing what the allergy is called, and that she's a lying liar (like you) mean there's no way I'll believe her.

Also, if anyone ever comes into one of the many retarded I CAN'T LOSE WEIGHT COS I'M SPESHUL threads and claims to have this allergy, they can consider themselves told to fuck the fuck off in advance. How come no-one's ever allergic to cake?

Also, raw foodism is stupid. It is, in fact, just as stupid as not eating fruit and vegetables at all. If you have to cook them to eat them safely, do it. It's not that hard...

[billfish678]

Originally Posted by Broomstick

I defy anyone to name me a human culture or tribe that never cooked its food.

College Fraternities

Oh, and the cake thing was funny.

[DiosaBellissima]

Originally Posted by Steophan

How come no-one's ever allergic to cake?

I just watched a runway show for a designer and I'm 100% sure most of the girls are I saw are deathly allergic to cake. They can't even be in the same room that a cake has been processed in.

[expectopatronum]

Lynn, you're still not making a lick of sense re the low blood sugar. if you rarely have a low blood sugar episode, then why did you mention that it's not uncommon for you to blow through more than one treatment in a day? and you still haven't explained why the choice is to pass out due to low sugar or be forced to eat something that will give you the shits. it's true that a glucose tablet is meant to hold you over til you can eat a meal. one or two tablets should get you by while the restaurant prepares your food, if you're in a situation where you're served the dreaded pepper. your experience is your own, i guess, but i'm an insulin dependent juvenile onset diabetic and i have been for the last 16 years, and i have never run into a situation where i would be forced to eat something i otherwise couldn't. my friends know of my condition and know if i say NEED SUGAR NOW they'll get it for me. if i'm at a restaurant and i crash, i order a coke, which brings me up til the food arrives.

[Ethilrist]

It's some kind of awesome, Steophan, that you can say "Why should I believe you here..." and then, two posts later, you agree with her.

[Steophan]

Originally Posted by DiosaBellissima

I just watched a runway show for a designer and I'm 100% sure most of the girls are I saw are deathly allergic to cake. They can't even be in the same room that a cake has been processed in.

If throwing something up after eating it is definite proof of an allergy, you're certainly right.

[curlcoat]

Originally Posted by Broomstick

There is much to criticize about curlcoat,.

What, that I don't like kids that are allowed to run roughshod over everything, or that I think folks should quit looking to others to support them?

Originally Posted by Steophan

Also, curlcoat claimed to be allergic to fresh fruit and vegetables, not raw. Whilst most fresh fruit is consumed raw, most vegetables aren't. That, along with not knowing what the allergy is called, and that she's a lying liar (like you) mean there's no way I'll believe her.

Oh ferchrissakes, you really are reaching here. Fresh=raw. I guess there could be someplace that freezes fruits or veggies raw and then defrosts them without cooking, but for you to be laying a claim of of lying on your narrow little definition is pretty childish. Come on - a cooked vegetable or fruit cannot possibly be fresh, eh? But then, you don't seem to be able to add anything to the discussion other than "if that's what you are, what am I?'.

Vegetables are consumed fresh (raw) in salads and with dip. I'm sure there are other applications that I have forgotten since, you know, I don't eat raw veggies if I can help it.

Not that I care if you believe me or not. There is no way I would ever put in the effort to live up to your expectations IRL, much less online.

Also, if anyone ever comes into one of the many retarded I CAN'T LOSE WEIGHT COS I'M SPESHUL threads and claims to have this allergy, they can consider themselves told to fuck the fuck off in advance. How come no-one's ever allergic to cake?

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but cake made of wheat flour would be a problem with those allergic to wheat. Which you would know if you had even the first clue about the subject. As for losing weight while allergic to fresh (raw) fruits and veggies, it isn't as easy but it's certainly do-able. I'm down 15 lbs so far.

Originally Posted by Ethilrist

It's some kind of awesome, Steophan, that you can say "Why should I believe you here..." and then, two posts later, you agree with her.

Yeah, I don't know about any other subjects but here Steophan has been pretty I'M SPESHUL...

[fumster]

Originally Posted by curlcoat

Oh ferchrissakes, you really are reaching here. Fresh=raw.

No it doesn't.