The case of atheist leader Ellenbeth Wachs: opinions? Info?

[SciFiSam]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Ridiculous to everyone but those in Imperial Polk County. This county is well known for being in a time-warp. The judges here do as they are told by the voters who are evangelicals.

But what was the actual charge?

[Onomatopoeia]

Originally Posted by tapu

Ever notice how, if someone hears something on NPR, they don't say, "Oh, hey, I heard on the radio the other day..." They always say, "I heard on NPR the other day...."

:hijack-hijack:

Aint NPR "the radio"? If it aint, it orta be. Carry on, luvvers! </me best West Cornwall accent.>

:hijack:hijack:hijack:

[JLRogers]

Originally Posted by tapu

Ever notice how, if someone hears something on NPR, they don't say, "Oh, hey, I heard on the radio the other day..." They always say, "I heard on NPR the other day...."

:hijack-hijack:

I do this, and for good reason.

Nearly all non-NPR, non-music programming seems to be talk radio or some variant of Bill & John's Wacky Drive-Time Radio Show. Neither is a credible source for anything other than incoherent diatribes about wedge issues and scatalogical parody songs.

[Double Foolscap]

Originally Posted by MPB in Salt Lake

I recently read that there is a company in Israel that has bred a marijuana strain that contains no THC, so smokers don't get high, but they still get the anti-nausea effects often associated with cannabis usage.

More like cannabisn't.

Eh?

Eh?

[EllenBeth]

Originally Posted by SciFiSam

But what was the actual charge?

Lewd and Lascivious behavior within the vicinity of a minor.

Doesn't seem to matter whether or not I knew the minor was there or whether the minor was on his property and I was INSIDE mine not visible to anyone.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by Double Foolscap

More like cannabisn't.

Eh?

Eh?

Okay, not bad. How about... um...

Deefer?

Pnot?

Mary Feign?

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Doesn't seem to matter whether or not I knew the minor was there or whether the minor was on his property and I was INSIDE mine not visible to anyone.

I admit I don't know all the facts and my level of interest and caring isn't high enough to spend hours researching it.

But if they arrested you six months after the fact for noises made in the heat of sex that were overheard by a minor... Then there's something wrong with that. But we don't know if that was in fact what happened.

[ladyfoxfyre]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Ridiculous to everyone but those in Imperial Polk County. This county is well known for being in a time-warp. The judges here do as they are told by the voters who are evangelicals.

As a Pinellas county resident, I can vouch for this assessment.

[Ludovic]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

Okay, not bad. How about... um...

Deefer?

Pnot?

Mary Feign?

Jamaican't
Sinsimilar
Og Kitsch

[Malacandra]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Sure, you bringing the pot?

IT'S A TRAP!

/Ackbar

[Bricker]

Originally Posted by Bricker

Well, the facts as laid out in the warrant certainly support a finding of probable cause to believe that the unauthorized practice of law was being committed.

I take it, however, that those charges were not pursued following the search and seizure executed at the residence?

Also: assuming the facts related in the affidavit concerning the meeting with council officials were substantially correct, can you explain why their invocation practice is not protected under Marsh v. Chambers?

Still curious about these questions.

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Ludovic

Sinsimilar

Copyright this right now.

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by Chimera

Copyright this right now.

Hijack (in order to fight ignorance): Copyright law does not protect single words, short phrases, names, or titles. Of course, you meant to refer to trademark law, but you can't exercise trademark rights over a word just because you came up with it. You have to be using it in commerce as an indicator of the origin of goods or services.

[tapu]

Originally Posted by Malacandra

IT'S A TRAP!

/Ackbar

One would think she'd stop asking that...

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

Hijack (in order to fight ignorance):

You're no fun anymore.

[Algher]

Originally Posted by Nars Glinley

That's because it's never happened in the history of ever.

I will argue that it has - my father-in-law used to keep his unit's pot stash in his locked desk in Vietnam. The MPs would never search his stuff, and he liked his support team at the hospital.

While I was not there, I am positive he never inhaled.

[Joan Reynolds]

I went to a blog my best friend told me about due to Ellenbeths constant bullying of fellow atheist Wil Kuhlmann The name of the Blog is "Mysogyny and the straw Feminst" under the blog site A system of Random Tangents by Anna Johnstone. My friend is a open gay activist and an investigator for many national law firms all over America and the argumet escalated by Ellen threatning to contact his law firm calling him a sociopath etc etc . She has been harrasing him for a yr and let posters on a thread she was on in Facebook suggested his site dog be killed. She is crafty though, whren asked about the thread she removed the nasty comments she and others made . Wil , my friend was stabbed eleven times and beaten in to a coma years ago and has a sight issue and that is what got him invovled in the LGBT movement. When My friend asked a question what rights are feminist lacking( Ellenbeth is a feminst ) she and the blog owner went after him so badly that he is awaiting word from the police dept from where she lives.

[Autolycus]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

I went to a blog my best friend told me about due to Ellenbeths constant bullying of fellow atheist Wil Kuhlmann The name of the Blog is "Mysogyny and the straw Feminst" under the blog site A system of Random Tangents by Anna Johnstone. My friend is a open gay activist and an investigator for many national law firms all over America and the argumet escalated by Ellen threatning to contact his law firm calling him a sociopath etc etc . She has been harrasing him for a yr and let posters on a thread she was on in Facebook suggested his site dog be killed. She is crafty though, whren asked about the thread she removed the nasty comments she and others made . Wil , my friend was stabbed eleven times and beaten in to a coma years ago and has a sight issue and that is what got him invovled in the LGBT movement. When My friend asked a question what rights are feminist lacking( Ellenbeth is a feminst ) she and the blog owner went after him so badly that he is awaiting word from the police dept from where she lives.

Was you friend stabbed near Tulum, Mexico?

[twickster]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

I went to a blog my best friend told me about due to Ellenbeths constant bullying of fellow atheist Wil Kuhlmann The name of the Blog is "Mysogyny and the straw Feminst" under the blog site A system of Random Tangents by Anna Johnstone. My friend is a open gay activist and an investigator for many national law firms all over America and the argumet escalated by Ellen threatning to contact his law firm calling him a sociopath etc etc . She has been harrasing him for a yr and let posters on a thread she was on in Facebook suggested his site dog be killed. She is crafty though, whren asked about the thread she removed the nasty comments she and others made . Wil , my friend was stabbed eleven times and beaten in to a coma years ago and has a sight issue and that is what got him invovled in the LGBT movement. When My friend asked a question what rights are feminist lacking( Ellenbeth is a feminst ) she and the blog owner went after him so badly that he is awaiting word from the police dept from where she lives.

If you have a problem with someone elsewhere on the Internet, deal with it there, don't follow them here and try to rile us to to join battle.

Thanks,

twickster, for the SDMB

[Bamboo Boy]

Originally Posted by twickster

If you have a problem with someone elsewhere on the Internet, deal with it there, don't follow them here and try to rile us to to join battle.

Thanks,

twickster, for the SDMB

Of course I'm not a mod with no authority here, but this is actually the sort of quasi-inside story I was interested in hearing, though it was kind of sloppy and an eyesore.

I also have to say- I felt no sense of the poster trying to get me to join a battle or rile me up. Just an apocryphal story to take for what it's worth, to offer some possible context.

-BB

[Joan Reynolds]

One thing Ellenbeth Wachs did not mention is she has a prevous past with the law back in 2006 for instance she was placed under arrest for domestic violence.

[twickster]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

One thing Ellenbeth Wachs did not mention is she has a prevous past with the law back in 2006 for instance she was placed under arrest for domestic violence.

If you have evidence for your claims against Ms. Wachs, pls. provide links to that evidence. Otherwise, pls. take your beef elsewhere on the internet.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by twickster

If you have evidence for your claims against Ms. Wachs, pls. provide links to that evidence. Otherwise, pls. take your beef elsewhere on the internet.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

If you provide me with your email address I will give you the evidence and the mug shot.

[twickster]

I'm not that interested in the story. If the material is available online, please provide a link so those who are can examine the evidence themselves.

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by twickster

I'm not that interested in the story. If the material is available online, please provide a link so those who are can examine the evidence themselves.

I will provide the link only in private, not on this blog , I play fair not dirty. so you either accept my offer of 100% evidence of EBW's incarceration for domestic violence or you do not.

[Ferret Herder]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

I will provide the link only in private, not on this blog , I play fair not dirty. so you either accept my offer of 100% evidence of EBW's incarceration for domestic violence or you do not.

You've already smeared this person's name on a site that's heavily indexed by Google - which is how I assume you found it in the first place. Why not follow through and provide the evidence to back it up if it's the real thing?

[Trans Fat Og]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Lewd and Lascivious behavior within the vicinity of a minor.

Doesn't seem to matter whether or not I knew the minor was there or whether the minor was on his property and I was INSIDE mine not visible to anyone.

I keep expecting that someone on this thread will make a reference to the latest Ragu (tm) commercial series.

[Smeghead]

I still haven't figured out why I'm supposed to care at all about this seemingly personal squabble that has nothing at all to do with me.

[MPB in Salt Lake]

Originally Posted by Smeghead

I still haven't figured out why I'm supposed to care at all about this seemingly personal squabble that has nothing at all to do with me.

A reefer smoking militant atheist living in the Bible-Belt who gets arrested for making loud fucking noises to the little kids who are playing in front of her house???

That's a more promising premise for quality entertainment than the entire plot of the Star Wars franchise.

"A long time ago, in a subdivision far away..."

[Acsenray]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

I will provide the link only in private, not on this blog , I play fair not dirty. so you either accept my offer of 100% evidence of EBW's incarceration for domestic violence or you do not.

What you have already posted is sufficient to subject yourself and possibly the SDMB to liability for defamation of your allegations are false. Withholding evidence to support your claim doesn't really protect you.

[digs]

Originally Posted by MPB in Salt Lake

A reefer smoking militant atheist living in the Bible-Belt who gets arrested for making loud fucking noises to the little kids who are playing in front of her house???

That's a more promising premise for quality entertainment than the entire plot of the Star Wars franchise.

"A long time ago, in a subdivision far away..."

I've already been more entertained by Ms. EllenBeth's antics than by all three Star Wars prequels viewed back-to-back. Still a ways to go before she can compare with Han getting called a "nerfherder" though.

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Acsenray

What you have already posted is sufficient to subject yourself and possibly the SDMB to liability for defamation of your allegations are false. Withholding evidence to support your claim doesn't really protect you.

I have no fear of her pressing charges on me what so ever because she simply can not, but I do however feel bad for a person having there shit displayed in public where any one can snag it.

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by digs

I've already been more entertained by Ms. EllenBeth's antics than by all three Star Wars prequels viewed back-to-back. Still a ways to go before she can compare with Han getting called a "nerfherder" though.

Really ? Then I guess entertainment for you is domestic violence as long as it is a woman beating a man.

[friedo]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

Really ? Then I guess entertainment for you is domestic violence as long as it is a woman beating a man.

Pretty sure I saw that movie on Cinemax.

[grude]

Originally Posted by Smeghead

I still haven't figured out why I'm supposed to care at all about this seemingly personal squabble that has nothing at all to do with me.

The reason this story got attention at all was because it seemed like an atheist was being harassed by the police for being an atheist.

[Meatros]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

I have no fear of her pressing charges on me what so ever because she simply can not, but I do however feel bad for a person having there shit displayed in public where any one can snag it.

I'm not following your logic here - you are displaying her shit here in public already. What you are not doing is actually providing any evidence of it.

If you did actually feel bad for a person having their shit strewn across the intrawebs you wouldn't have posted in this thread attempting to stir up more shit.

[belladonna]

I love the Internet.

I love that I can watch things like this conversation unfold, random commentary on far-flung gossip drawing the actual participants to pound out their sides. It's theater, the poster and reader alike shaping the story as they will.
Sometimes it just hits me all over again how small we really are, and how fantastic and absurd.

Carry on, you are entertaining me.

[Gyrate]

Originally Posted by Smeghead

I still haven't figured out why I'm supposed to care at all about this seemingly personal squabble that has nothing at all to do with me.

Because it is of critical importance that people on the Internet receive validation for their arguments from random messageboard participants with no knowledge of or interest in the dispute. This is known in common parlance as "Winning!"

OTOH the OP did bring this up in the first place, so we only have ourselves to blame.

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by belladonna

I love the Internet.

I love that I can watch things like this conversation unfold, random commentary on far-flung gossip drawing the actual participants to pound out their sides. It's theater, the poster and reader alike shaping the story as they will.
Sometimes it just hits me all over again how small we really are, and how fantastic and absurd.

Carry on, you are entertaining me.

Well Bella, to make you laugh some more EBW's criminal record is posted on Sherri Jamerson's Wall and its made public. , gossip my ass.

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by belladonna

I love the Internet.

I love that I can watch things like this conversation unfold, random commentary on far-flung gossip drawing the actual participants to pound out their sides. It's theater, the poster and reader alike shaping the story as they will.
Sometimes it just hits me all over again how small we really are, and how fantastic and absurd.

Carry on, you are entertaining me.

Ellenbeth Wachs Huey :Statute 784.03 (1A1) Charge: Battery Touch Strike 2006 Bond 5000

[Joan Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Meatros

I'm not following your logic here - you are displaying her shit here in public already. What you are not doing is actually providing any evidence of it.

If you did actually feel bad for a person having their shit strewn across the intrawebs you wouldn't have posted in this thread attempting to stir up more shit.

Ellenbeth Wachs Statute 784.03( 1A1)Charge :Battery Touch or Strike Bond 5000 you can see this and her mug shot from 2006 in THE blog on Word Press, "ITSAMADWORLDANDILIKEIT"

[MPB in Salt Lake]

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

Ellenbeth Wachs Huey :Statute 784.03 (1A1) Charge: Battery Touch Strike 2006 Bond 5000

Originally Posted by Joan Reynolds

Ellenbeth Wachs Statute 784.03( 1A1)Charge :Battery Touch or Strike Bond 5000 you can see this and her mug shot from 2006 in THE blog on Word Press, "ITSAMADWORLDANDILIKEIT"

Joan, you seem personally upset with Ellenbeth; Tell me, was it your marijuana that she got taken away by the 5-0?

If so, I can understand your seething, all-consuming anger, as $15 worth of top-drawer moon cabbage doesn't come around every day, eh?

I am praying for you, Ellenbeth and all of the other reeferless atheists out there to find inner peace, tranquility and a solid line on affordable fattie dimebags....

[aruvqan]

Originally Posted by EllenBeth

Lewd and Lascivious behavior within the vicinity of a minor.

Doesn't seem to matter whether or not I knew the minor was there or whether the minor was on his property and I was INSIDE mine not visible to anyone.

The issue is also with apartment living ... it can be very difficult finding places where the walls are *not* paper thin. I can think of only one time I never heard my neighbor ... a duplex where the other side was empty of tenants. Many housing areas where there is a fairly narrow spacing between houses also have the same problem, especially if the windows are open for ventilation of heat.

Originally Posted by Ludovic

Jamaican't
Sinsimilar
Og Kitsch

ROFLMAO, I like these.

[Joan Reynolds]

Ellenbeth recently told a huge lie . I even offerd her 20 thousand dollars to any cause she supported to prove she dropped the charge, she has yet to reply on me on the Apt J podcast stating she dropped the charge of stalking her whe nit was the magistrate that sided with me. Alos she claims I am her stalker and then in the podvcast she stated she wanted to meet me. I am confussed.

[twickster]

Joan, Ellenbeth, go take your argument elsewhere, it has nothing to do with the SDMB.

I'm locking this.