Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing

[Erdosain]

I dunno, Chris Klein never struck me as being the sharpest tool in the shed. It could be he doesn't understand what sex is.

[Dangerosa]

Originally Posted by Dewey Finn

Joshua Jackson is on Fringe, which is on Fox. But I think the big winner from Dawson's Creek is Michelle Williams.

Joshua Jackson also gets to be "Mr. Diane Kruger" - Which isn't bad.

[Justin_Bailey]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

She was also in a 5 year relationship with Chris Klein. They were officially engaged for the last year and a half.

I don't think Donnie Osmond would have waited five years before going to bed with a girlfriend. Chris Klein is either gay, impotent, or a man of superhuman patience, or else Katie was either lying about the virgin part or else defining virgin by very liberal standards.

The real question is, when did she make the virgin announcement? because honestly, the only famous 90s virgin that I remember was Britney Spears. And, IIRC, she later admitted that she and Justin Timberlake were having loads of sex during their relationship.

[etv78]

Van Derbeek also was part of plot altering episodes of both my favorite sitcom AND drama!

Sitcom: Dumped Robin, leading to the 1 nite stand with Barney that wrecked (for a time) his friendship with Ted

Drama: Kidnapped Reid, and in the process of torturing him, got him addicted to Diludid.

[Little Nemo]

Originally Posted by Eliahna

If she gets sole custody of Suri, it will certainly reignite speculation that Chris Klein is the bio-father, not Cruise.

There's crazier theories than that out there. I've heard people claim that L. Ron Hubbard had his sperm frozen and it was used to impregnate Holmes.

[Bryan Ekers]

Originally Posted by MyFootsZZZ

I remember that! Of all the things to make fun of the guy about...

*grumpy face*

Well, heh, I once made fun of Cruise's height, too.... and there were some slight racist overtones involved, but that's another story.

[Jim's Son]

Originally Posted by Justin_Bailey

The real question is, when did she make the virgin announcement? because honestly, the only famous 90s virgin that I remember was Britney Spears. And, IIRC, she later admitted that she and Justin Timberlake were having loads of sex during their relationship.

Jessica Simpson as well. And from the NBA, A C Green was prominent in saying that he would start and finish his basketball career as a virgin.

[well he's back]

Loved vanderbeek's guest spot in Criminal Minds. Thanks for reminding me, etv78. You r right that he was also fun in "how I met your mother"

[Little Nemo]

Originally Posted by Jim's Son

Jessica Simpson as well. And from the NBA, A C Green was prominent in saying that he would start and finish his basketball career as a virgin.

I think Adrianna Lima and Lisa Kudrow surprised people.

[Sampiro]

Originally Posted by Jim's Son

Jessica Simpson as well. And from the NBA, A C Green was prominent in saying that he would start and finish his basketball career as a virgin.

And the craziest thing is that Simpson, Green, Spears, and Holmes all lost their virginity to Justin Timberlake in the same 24 hour period.

[Bryan Ekers]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

And the craziest thing is that Simpson, Green, Spears, and Holmes all lost their virginity to Justin Timberlake in the same 24 hour period.

And he hosted Saturday Night Live that very evening!

[TreacherousCretin]

Originally Posted by Blank Slate

I'm no film snob, but I can't think of one movie he's made that was particularly entertaining.

Neither am I, and neither can I.

[JustinC]

Congratulations to Katie Holmes for finally chewing all the way through her leg.

[Bryan Ekers]

Originally Posted by JustinC

Congratulations to Katie Holmes for finally chewing all the way through her leg.

Well done.

[GuanoLad]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

And the craziest thing is that Simpson, Green, Spears, and Holmes all lost their virginity to Justin Timberlake in the same 24 hour period.

I do not understand how Timberlake's parade of exes are all unbelievably super-hot famous people. How the hell does he do it?

[not what you'd expect]

He's got a little something.

[Eliahna]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

She was also in a 5 year relationship with Chris Klein. They were officially engaged for the last year and a half.

I don't think Donnie Osmond would have waited five years before going to bed with a girlfriend. Chris Klein is either gay, impotent, or a man of superhuman patience, or else Katie was either lying about the virgin part or else defining virgin by very liberal standards.



Her second miscarriage was while they were separated. (She claims to have had an earlier one.) While I know it wouldn't be the first or last time that an estranged couple conceived a child, given the other oddities about Cruise I wouldn't be floored to learn that one wasn't his.

She (bizarrely, I always thought) announced she had kept some of the genetic material from her miscarriage in order that it could be DNA tested to prove it was Cruise's child.

[Equipoise]

Good for Katie. I hope she can get back into acting. I thought she was pretty good in Go, The Gift, Pieces of April and Thank You for Smoking and I'd like to see her do well.

Originally Posted by salinqmind

... it really made my stomach lurch to see Suri paraded endlessly in public, wearing weird inappropriate getups, lugged around (clutching that white blanket) like a small infant, hair all snarled, taken out to adult restaurants and to Broadway plays late at night, never seen playing with other kids...it was really disturbing.

Suri hasn't appeared one time in public since the day she was born without the paparazzi swarming all over, and you're taking a few random things and judging her entire upbringing? That's even more disturbing.

Originally Posted by Sage Rat

I'm pretty sure that Kidman did. Of course, I think he converted to Scientology while they were together, which had to be pretty damn creepy.

No. Mimi Rogers converted him to $cientology, and I'll never forgive her, even though she herself has since left the cult.

Originally Posted by Blank Slate

I'm no film snob, but I can't think of one movie he's made that was particularly entertaining.

I'm no film snob either* and I'm as anti-$cientology as you can possibly imagine, but I can think of several. I hate that the man's a cult dupe, but I really do like him as an actor. I haven't seen everything he's done, I've missed some major ones in fact (I've never seen Top Gun, Jerry Maguire, Born on the 4th of July, Interview with a Vampire, A Few Good Men, The Outsiders, Vanilla Sky and a few others), but of the ones I've seen, I thought these were good movies that he was especially good in:

Risky Business
The Color of Money
Rain Man
Magnolia (he was GREAT in this)
Minority Report
Collateral
Tropic Thunder

These might be more guilty pleasure than great movies, but I enjoyed:

Far and Away
The Firm
War of the Worlds
Eyes Wide Shut

And, taking Guilty Pleasure to the extreme, Cruise is an absolute hoot as the addled, alcohol-dimmed diva in Rock of Ages. He's hilarious, the best thing about the movie.

I do like him, and I just wish he'd come to his senses and denounce that brainwashing bunch of thugs.





* Ok, I am to the fella who Pitted me for being one, but he's wrong.

[GuanoLad]

Originally Posted by Equipoise

(I've never seen Top Gun, Jerry Maguire, Born on the 4th of July, Interview with a Vampire, A Few Good Men, The Outsiders, Vanilla Sky and a few others)

WTF? Really? You? I think you may need to correct that oversight sometime.

[Erdosain]

Originally Posted by GuanoLad

WTF? Really? You? I think you may need to correct that oversight sometime.

Eh, does she really need to see Vanilla Sky? And Top Gun is mostly just a joke about the oblivious homoeroticism of the 80s at this point. And the less said about Jerry Macguire the better (God, I hate that movie). She should also make sure to miss Cocktail and Days of Thunder.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by GuanoLad

I do not understand how Timberlake's parade of exes are all unbelievably super-hot famous people. How the hell does he do it?

He probably drops my name in conversations with them.


(That would account for them being exes )

[Equipoise]

Originally Posted by GuanoLad

WTF? Really? You? I think you may need to correct that oversight sometime.

I know! The only ones I've wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf "You can't handle the truth!" is about in context).

And Erdosain, you'll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven't seen.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by Erdosain

Eh, does she really need to see Vanilla Sky? And Top Gun is mostly just a joke about the oblivious homoeroticism of the 80s at this point. And the less said about Jerry Macguire the better (God, I hate that movie). She should also make sure to miss Cocktail and Days of Thunder.

I will have you know I'm still looking for that young lady in the pink bikini from "Kokomo". No wonder Carl Wilson croaked after viewing her.

[Accidental Martyr]

Originally Posted by Equipoise

I know! The only ones I've wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf "You can't handle the truth!" is about in context).

And Erdosain, you'll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven't seen.

Unless you feel like you need to be punished for something horrible that you've done, do not watch Cocktail or Days of Thunder. They are unbelievably bad.

[GuanoLad]

Originally Posted by Erdosain

Eh, does she really need to see Vanilla Sky?

They may not be great films, but considering how many movies she watches it seems like famous classics like those should at least be seen. Though I've never seen Jerry Maguire either.

[Darth Sensitive]

Originally Posted by gwendee

He could date Taylor Swift and then dump her and she could write a song about it.

Pleasepleaseplease.

[Chicagojeff]

Originally Posted by Chefguy

Whatever the guy's faults, and there many of them, he's made (and continues to make) some of the more entertaining films of our age, and is presently getting rave reviews for his most recent release where he plays, of all things, a rock star.

You can have him man.. Other than that nice work in Tropic THunder I avoid Tom projects.. Just speaking on myself.. Just tired of seeing that "earnest look" he really doen't have a number two go to move..

[Alessan]

Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr

Unless you feel like you need to be punished for something horrible that you've done, do not watch Cocktail or Days of Thunder. They are unbelievably bad.

That's not entirely true - they feature a couple of excellent performances from supporting actors Bryan Brown and Robert Duvall, respectively.

[Accidental Martyr]

Originally Posted by Alessan

That's not entirely true - they feature a couple of excellent performances from supporting actors Bryan Brown and Robert Duvall, respectively.

No supporting actor performance can save those movies. Cocktail is probably one of the worst movies I've ever had the misfortune of seeing. My wife still has both of these on VHS.

[Tangent]

I would recommend watching The Outsiders if only for the novelty of seeing the cast before many of them became much bigger stars. And Cruise's role is pretty small.

[Turek]

Originally Posted by Tangent

I would recommend watching The Outsiders if only for the novelty of seeing the cast before many of them became much bigger stars. And Cruise's role is pretty small.

You can watch him get to shot to hell in Taps.

[CatherineZeta]

Originally Posted by Equipoise

I know! The only ones I've wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf "You can't handle the truth!" is about in context).

And Erdosain, you'll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven't seen.

I highly recommend Interview with the Vampire. That is the only Tom Cruise movie I've seen aside from Tropic Thunder and he was good enough in his role that I frequently forget that he was in it. Not that his performance was forgettable, I mean that as in he played the role well enough that I watched the movie thinking of him as "Lestat" not "Tom Cruise in vampire fangs."

Anyway- I feel bad for Suri not only for her odd lifestyle and parents divorcing, but because it seems like she's likely to become a pawn in the proceedings which is awful.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by singular1

Yeah, because Catholocism is so much more logically fact-based and scandal-free.

Yes, it is, compared to Scientology. At least Scientology can be traced back to who made it up and why.

And at least the community is actually rather healthy.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Superdude

Although, I've always found it odd that a self-proclaimed, proud virgin would do a nude scene, as she did in The Gift. There were only two good things about that movie, and her nipples were both of them.

While I've only seen the scene online, separated from the movie itself, it appeared to me that they never show her nipples and her face in the same scene at the same time. In the comments we concluded it was a body double, hence why she could still claim she'd never done a nude scene.

[silenus]

Originally Posted by BigT

While I've only seen the scene online, separated from the movie itself, it appeared to me that they never show her nipples and her face in the same scene at the same time. In the comments we concluded it was a body double, hence why she could still claim she'd never done a nude scene.

Oh hell no. She in mondo topless in that movie, and the jubblies are hanging out for all to see.

[url="http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/27711"]Link[/url] (NSFW)(Titties)

[Intergalactic Gladiator]

My wife and I were at a friend's house this weekend having a drink and socializing and out of nowhere she says "Did you hear Tom Cruise just shaved his beard?"

[twickster]

Originally Posted by singular1

Yeah, because Catholocism is so much more logically fact-based and scandal-free.

Originally Posted by BigT

Yes, it is, compared to Scientology. At least Scientology can be traced back to who made it up and why.

And at least the community is actually rather healthy.

This is Cafe Society, not Great Debates. Start a new thread there if you want to discuss the pros and cons of any particular religion.

Everyone, please stay on topic. Tom Cruise is obviously the best-known Scientologist out there [sic], and it may well be that religious differences are a factor in this divorce, but Scientology qua Scientology is not the issue here.

Thanks,

twickster, Cafe Society moderator

[JMH125]

Originally Posted by Superdude

Although, I've always found it odd that a self-proclaimed, proud virgin would do a nude scene, as she did in The Gift. There were only two good things about that movie, and her nipples were both of them.

I had NO idea she was a virgin when she did that scene, and yes, that was by far the best part of the movie and the only scene i can remember.

[jackdavinci]

Originally Posted by silenus

Oh hell no. She in mondo topless in that movie, and the jubblies are hanging out for all to see.

Wow. Somehow I got it into my head that she was flat chested.

[Annie-Xmas]

Best line I heard on the subject:

Originally Posted by Attorney Jeffrey Lichtman

Why don't Cruise & Travolta just get married and become Hollywood's most powerful homosexual Scientology couple?

[MyFootsZZZ]

Originally Posted by jackdavinci

Wow. Somehow I got it into my head that she was flat chested.

Yeah, she really is, um... "nice".

She was also in Thank You For Smoking, which I thought was a good movie, but she didn't really shine.

[corkboard]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

I don't think Donnie Osmond would have waited five years before going to bed with a girlfriend. Chris Klein is either gay, impotent, or a man of superhuman patience, or else Katie was either lying about the virgin part or else defining virgin by very liberal standards.

It might come down to a definition of "virginity". My college girlfriend called herself a virgin until marriage too, but we did everything [EVERYTHING] except penis-in-vagina sex.

[Superdude]

Originally Posted by silenus

Oh hell no. She in mondo topless in that movie, and the jubblies are hanging out for all to see.

[url="http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/27711"]Link[/url] (NSFW)(Titties)

Not to be a prude, silenus, but I had to report the link for the "two click" rule. No junior modding intended.

From the FAQ:

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[SnakesCatLady]

I read today that she's divorcing Cruise because he wants to sent the 6-year old to some something called "Sea Operations" - some sort of Scientology boot camp. That's why she's going for legal custody.

I don't blame her one little bit. I don't have kids but if I did no one would be taking her away from me to go to some nutjob religious camp. Especially at so early an age.

[Marley23]

Originally Posted by Superdude

Not to be a prude, silenus, but I had to report the link for the "two click" rule. No junior modding intended.

He did add a warning to his post, although that does not technically qualify as following the two-click rule. It's better to just report the post. I had to break an extra link in your quote.

[Superdude]

Originally Posted by Marley23

He did add a warning to his post, although that does not technically qualify as following the two-click rule. It's better to just report the post. I had to break an extra link in your quote.

My apologies, Marley I didn't even think of the link in the quote.

[Smapti]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

And the craziest thing is that Simpson, Green, Spears, and Holmes all lost their virginity to Justin Timberlake in the same 24 hour period.

This is still more plausible than Suri being Tom Cruise's biological daughter.

[DiosaBellissima]

Originally Posted by SnakesCatLady

I read today that she's divorcing Cruise because he wants to sent the 6-year old to some something called "Sea Operations" - some sort of Scientology boot camp. That's why she's going for legal custody.

It's actually the Sea Org, a place where people have to sign billion (yes, BILLION) year contracts to serve. Ex Scientologists have come out left and right, telling stories of effectively being slaves on the Sea Org ship- they suffer abuse (physical and mental), are starved, and just generally have a bad time. I once saw a documentary that said Greece (I believe it was Greece) had banned the Scientology ship from docking there, because one time when it did, a woman tried to get off of the ship, screaming and begging for help . . . only to be dragged back on by large men. Apparently this freaked out the people of the city bad enough that the government banned the ship from coming back.

[Push You Down]

Originally Posted by DiosaBellissima

It's actually the Sea Org, a place where people have to sign billion (yes, BILLION) year contracts to serve. Ex Scientologists have come out left and right, telling stories of effectively being slaves on the Sea Org ship- they suffer abuse (physical and mental), are starved, and just generally have a bad time. I once saw a documentary that said Greece (I believe it was Greece) had banned the Scientology ship from docking there, because one time when it did, a woman tried to get off of the ship, screaming and begging for help . . . only to be dragged back on by large men. Apparently this freaked out the people of the city bad enough that the government banned the ship from coming back.

Rather than help the woman...sigh.

[silenus]

That's right up at the top of my "To Do" list when I'm a bazillionaire - send a hit squad to take down every boat, ship and dinghy Scientology has. Rescue squads on the high seas, followed by the scuttling of the ships along with their crews. Then drop the victims off on a beach somewhere safe with instructions on how to get help.

Then vanish back into the seas......