Best TNG Star Trek Movie Ever.

[Jim B.]

I personally think TNG is the best Star Trek series ever. I assume I am not alone in thinking this. But unfortunately I have found some of the movies that immediately followed less than stellar (if you'll forgive the pun). The first one esp. was poor IMHO. Star Trek Generations. The nexus was an especially silly plot device I thought. I like my sci-fi to be plausible, predictions of the actual future if you will. And the nexus was just plain silly (it is not poss. such a thing would really exist--is it?).

No, my all-time favorite for TNG movies is unquestionably Star Trek First Contact. It had all the things that made the series so good. The triumph of technology over adversity. Hope for the future. The triumph of hope over adversity. I esp. loved Zefram Cochrane as the unlikely hero. They put him on a pedestal. But he proved to be all too human.

I haven't bothered to look at other posts involving Star Trek movies for a reason. I want my opinion on the matter to be fresh and unspoiled by reading other posts on the matter.

Well, do any of you agree with me (and why)?

[Gerald II]

I didn't see Insurrection or Generations. Just First Contact and Nemesis.

First Contact was pretty good. I felt like the 2 parter "Locutus" was more epic in feel. But the performances were excellent.

"You want to run away and blow up the ship, you COWARD"

-Picard to Worf

[Tangent]

First Contact is much better, IMO, than the other TNG movies.

I'd probably rank it third or fourth among all Trek movies, with ST:II and ST:IV being my top two.

[friedo]

First Contact is the best Star Trek movie. Fuck Wrath of Khan. Ricardo Montalban is weaksauce.

[Grumman]

I agree with the general opinion that First Contact is the best TNG movie, with II, IV and VI as the other good Star Trek movies.

[cckerberos]

I don't think you're going to find much disagreement (if any).

The other TNG movies were dreck.

[Odesio]

Originally Posted by Grumman

I agree with the general opinion that First Contact is the best TNG movie, with II, IV and VI as the other good Star Trek movies.

In some ways First Contact seemed like a rehash of what we saw in Wrath. You had someone obsessed with the enemy and they made Moby Dick references. In Wrath it was Khan who was obsessed and in First Contact it was Picard. Still, First Contact is most certainly the best TNG movie because the others sucked.

[Raguleader]

Originally Posted by Jim B.

I personally think TNG is the best Star Trek series ever. I assume I am not alone in thinking this. But unfortunately I have found some of the movies that immediately followed less than stellar (if you'll forgive the pun). The first one esp. was poor IMHO. Star Trek Generations. The nexus was an especially silly plot device I thought. I like my sci-fi to be plausible, predictions of the actual future if you will. And the nexus was just plain silly (it is not poss. such a thing would really exist--is it?).

No, my all-time favorite for TNG movies is unquestionably Star Trek First Contact. It had all the things that made the series so good. The triumph of technology over adversity. Hope for the future. The triumph of hope over adversity. I esp. loved Zefram Cochrane as the unlikely hero. They put him on a pedestal. But he proved to be all too human.

I haven't bothered to look at other posts involving Star Trek movies for a reason. I want my opinion on the matter to be fresh and unspoiled by reading other posts on the matter.

Well, do any of you agree with me (and why)?

If you're gonna shoot down Generations on the basis of the plot being unrealistic, I'm afraid the movie about the time traveling cyborg aliens gets similarly disqualified.

That said, of the TNG movies, First Contact was my favorite too, for various reasons. Mostly it was interesting and exciting and fun.

[Small Clanger]

First Contact is my favourite of all the Trek films, IV next and II third. The rest I do not wish to see again thanks.

From First Contact (off the top of my head so probably a bit wonky)

"You're blended alright!"

"Do you three want to be alone?"

"It's my first ray-gun"

"Sounds Swedish"

"If you were any other man I would have killed you where you stood" - Worf to Picard after his apology

"Oh my God, I forgot something!"

SPOILER:

When Zephram Cochrane forgot to play rock-n-roll for the launch

You guys got more? No cheating, from memory please

[Raguleader]

"Assimilate this!"

[beowulff]

"Doesn't anyone pee in the 24th Century?"

[Skammer]

I agree that First Contact was one of the best ST movies along with II, IV and VI. The other Next Generation movies were the worst except for maybe V.

But the only funny quote stuck in my head is from Insurrection, after Riker shaves his beard:

Riker: Smooth as an android's bottom, eh Data?
[Data feels Riker's cheek, smiles, and shakes his head]

[FordTaurusSHO94]

The rumors of my assimilation have been greatly exaggerated.

[Anaamika]

I didn't much like it, but it probably was indeed the best TNG movie. This quote however:

Originally Posted by Skammer

But the only funny quote stuck in my head is from Insurrection, after Riker shaves his beard:

Riker: Smooth as an android's bottom, eh Data?
[Data feels Riker's cheek, smiles, and shakes his head]

Just made me feel faintly ill. No one wants to think about Data's bottom. Sorry.

[Fake Tales of San Francisco]

Yep, First Contact.

Red Letter Media do a pretty good job of explaining why the TNG Star Trek movies don't work. Careful though, lots of profanity and twisted humour. :P

The only thing that truly bothered me in First Contact when I first saw it was that Data is apparently bulletproof. RLM point this out too - in previous TNG episodes it is established that he is susceptible to projectiles (in the holodeck he is hit by an arrow, and explains that he only narrowly avoided serious damage).

[Skald the Rhymer]

The best of the (generally mediocre) TNG movies is the half of First Contact that deals with the Borg directly. The Zephrem Cochrane half was annoying, and the movie as a whole suffered from feeling like a TV show, what with having the A and B stories.

I have to disagree with the notion that TNG is the best of the series. That's clearly DS9, though TOS is close on its heels.

[KneadToKnow]

Originally Posted by Anaamika

No one wants to think about Data's bottom. Sorry.

Tasha did, apparently.

[Skald the Rhymer]

Originally Posted by KneadToKnow

Tasha did, apparently.

I think she was more interested on the other side. And I've never been sure Riker or Worf or even Beverly Crusher would have gotten any less laid if they'd been the one knocking on her door.

[Bryan Ekers]

Asking which TNG movie is best is like asking which dental procedure one likes most.

[John DiFool]

Originally Posted by Skammer

I agree that First Contact was one of the best ST movies along with II, IV and VI. The other Next Generation movies were the worst except for maybe V.

But the only funny quote stuck in my head is from Insurrection, after Riker shaves his beard:

Riker: Smooth as an android's bottom, eh Data?
[Data feels Riker's cheek, smiles, and shakes his head]

Data gets some funny gags in Generations after his emotion chip is implanted and activated. "Lifeforms! My lovely little lifeforms!" while he uses "Mr. Tricorder".

[AK84]

I liked Insurrection and First Contact. And I am sorry with the exception of II and IV, TOS movies were nothing to write home about.

[Raguleader]

Originally Posted by John DiFool

Data gets some funny gags in Generations after his emotion chip is implanted and activated. "Lifeforms! My lovely little lifeforms!" while he uses "Mr. Tricorder".

Heh, the best thing about Data's little song is how you can see the entire bridge crew stop and go "WTF?" in the background.