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Old 04-05-2015, 08:25 AM
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What is with the male version of this, that's not so quiet but still has the accent and overused vocal style? Mumford and sons, Avett Brothers, Fleet foxes, M ward, Tallest man on earth (some of who are awesome, but fit in this example). I don't mind the male version as much for some reason. Look both these guys are doing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38NBRvhDGI
Even though guys doing the waif-y thing aren't as irritating, I think there's a parallel for them. Although it's not the same, the "annoying overused vocal style that takes no talent" for men would be what I call monotoning. It's used a lot in indie/emo styles, and it's basically writing a song that has two or three notes, then droning badly written "look at my SADNESS" lyrics over them.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:24 PM
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Would the opening theme song from the British crime drama "Luther" count as an example? I loathe that singer with a passion.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:40 AM
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I hate this singing style as well, it literally drives me completely mad. I found this forum by doing a google search. I wish there were a name for it too. They always a let a bunch of them in on American idol, and praise their "unique" style. There is nothing unique about it, because every young girl singer is doing it! No one sings like that naturally, it is all put on! For awhile there, everyone was copying Kelly Clarkson's singing style, and now it is this. Can't wait until fad goes away, I hate it!!!

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Old 06-13-2015, 11:33 PM
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I got here by Googling "female singers today all sound alike."

And I too cannot stand this type of singing...especially any semblance of vocal fry which is so popular with girls today.

IMO, this singing style mirrors the lazy, passionless way that young people go on about their lives these days and it comes out in the music of "artists." And since it's popular, the record company whores have no intention of fixing something that's not broken.

This style of music annoys me to a point way beyond just having to hear it in the supermarket or a restaurant. It defines a generation of young people that I cannot understand as they are so different from Generation X. I know I'm making a blanket statement here by calling this Millennial generation lazy and passionless, but that's what I feel when I hear this crap. It may not define everyone in this age range, but I feel it's a fair generalization.

I miss music that feels genuine; music that had emotion, power, feeling to it. These days, I'm not hearing that.

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Old 06-14-2015, 12:13 AM
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Good thread.
My feeling is that in the beginning of these things it's always someone with real talent. The imitators make a sham of it. Cat Power is great, to me. No problem.
Nelly McKaye: I was ready to like her. Seems a shame that something so smart could be that annoying on second listen. Weird.

I've been a fan of Juliana Hatfield since she started. Saw the Blake Babies half a dozen times. I noticed over the years that chick singers were reminding me of her. I even once heard a beer commercial with Juliana chords and vocal style. Anyone else hear it in relation to this sound? We're going back to late 80's here.

How about Dave Matthews and David Gray? Off topic or just as annoying? Did I touch a nerve?

Here's a chick who does NOT sing that way, to cleanse your palate perhaps: liz Phair. First LP is a monster IMO.
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Old 07-18-2015, 12:03 PM
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just googling this annoying trend - found this thread

Hi folks first post here...%^#%@$#

I was googling this affectation -trying to zone in on what it is and found you guys. Trying to figure out if there were others that found this thing to be annoying, pretentious and downright baffling.

..I have a friend, a girl, who has an amazing voice. But. She started singing in this affected, annoying style in the last year and it kills me to hear it.

I don't have the heart to jump out and tell her to stop fuckin' doing that!

I think a certain amount of imitation is healthy for young singers but after awhile I want to hear a person in their own voice.

I think a lot of this comes from some sort of melding of pop that's, like.."oh man that's poppy but jazzy isn't it?"

I always hear a copping of Billy Holiday and a few other old school jazz singers in there..thrift some clothes and kick it old school or some shit.

The OP posted examples of singers who clearly have decent gifts...the affectation murders it though.
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Old 07-18-2015, 12:08 PM
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Precious and moribund.

YES!!

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Old 07-18-2015, 12:22 PM
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I wanted to edit my previous post to include some thoughts after reading this whole thread..couldn't edit??

Anyhow, saw some great names for this style in this thread..hilarious.

-waif girl
-precious and moribund
-twee girl
-fucking coy
-Starbucks music

Sure I missed a few and happy to know that I'm not alone in despising this tread shite.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:59 AM
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Taco Bell ad sent me over the edge.

The Taco Bell ad with a cover of "Mad World" is what finally sent me over the edge. The original version by Tears for Fears along with the beautiful cover by Gary Jules are enough. To have this song literally insulted by Halsey makes me so sad.
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:05 PM
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Can anyone come up with an earlier example then Cat Power?
I'm clearly a sucker for this affectation, because I love Cat Power and most of the others cited (including some I hadn't previously heard, so thanks for helping me expand my music library).

But doesn't this singing style (or a precursor of it, anyway) go back at least to Blossom Dearie, nearly a half century before Chan Marshall entered the music scene?
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Old 07-29-2015, 06:05 PM
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I'm clearly a sucker for this affectation, because I love Cat Power and most of the others cited (including some I hadn't previously heard, so thanks for helping me expand my music library).

But doesn't this singing style (or a precursor of it, anyway) go back at least to Blossom Dearie, nearly a half century before Chan Marshall entered the music scene?
I can't see cat power being part of this. She seems to have some artistic integrity thats missing in it.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:12 PM
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I came across the thread (not by Googling) and I recognized the style. I have always thought of it as "Whiny-Ass White Girl singing." I was sorry to hear Nataly Dawn and Pomplamoose cited but on further listening, she fits in. However, the arrangements of the songs in Pomplamoose takes it right out of the WAWG territory. I dare you to listen to their cover of Telephone and declare it pompous and moribund.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:49 PM
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I came across this thread today (by Googling) and had to join the forum out of excitement.

Daughter were mentioned, who I initially liked, but have since become a huge ear repellent. Nataly Dawn, who I hadn't heard of until now, typifies it very well. That rising, slightly croaky 'why' at the 00:34 mark (first clip) is a particularly wince inducing affectation. It's the trying too hard to be subtle that grates.

It was definitely popularised by Zooey Deschanel in Elf for me and has become the vocal equivalent of 'Manic Pixie Dream Girl'. It is very moribund in some cases as mentioned, but also vaguely jazzy. It seems to come out of the West Coast of America a lot, but is rife in the UK too. There are examples of it that I'm drawn to and enjoy (Sylvan Esso being a recent example), but we have definitely reached critical mass for these types of singers.

I should note that I listen to a lot of female vocalists which is why I'm sensitive to it. Absolutely no mysogynist undercurrents.

As a contender for earliest example, I'd offer Astrud Gilberto and even suggest she was the pioneer on The Girl From Ipanema.
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:40 AM
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Thanks for commiserating

Glad I found this thread after a simple search!

Questions for anyone in the social sciences: has there been any ethnomusicological research on the persistence of this style? Anything to do with 'authenticity'? Has it eclipsed hyper-melisma in popularity?
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:41 PM
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Interesting questions! Can even the haters acknowledge that it is far easier to listen to than hyper-melisma?
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Old 08-13-2015, 04:17 PM
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Hello fellow haters of what I will now call the 'waify' style (thanks LC Strawhouse for this very descriptive correlative).

I made an account just for the purposes of reveling in our mutual ire at this atrocious fad, and to offer a theory I have regarding its nature. I first noticed this style with Regina Spektor and Pomplamoose; then yesterday at work, I heard something that absolutely drove me crazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0bS-YnLf4s

The amount of irritation I feel listening to this song is not rational. Not only am I irritated by the selfish, flippant lyrics, but the absurdly childish manner in which the song is sung. We have an adult singer, in an adult body, singing in a whiny style that is reminiscent of toddler-speak. If you bother to watch the associated video, you will note that the singer is also engaged in a number of childlike behaviors - like sitting on a kitchen counter licking a popsicle.

It is evident to me that there is an association with this style, and a kind of child-like vulnerability on the part of the singer. I do believe the 'waify' style is a western incarnation of what the Japanese call 'burikko' (ぶりっ子). Burriko is a disposition adopted by many Japanese females, which involves speaking and singing with an affected pronunciation in order to evoke pre-adolescence, carrying oneself with childlike posture, and misusing honorifics in a manner that imitates schoolchildren.

This may not be the primary reason that artists choose to sing in this way. I do agree that many have adopted it only because it is popular - but I also think it is an underlying aspect of this style, and it is certainly the primary reason why I hate it.

I don't understand why someone would want to sing with an accent and stress that does not resemble the way anyone speaks in real life, including the artist. It seems like an attempt to easily develop an original 'style', when it's really just sloppy pronunciation. It also feels very disingenuous, and not like a real expression of feeling on the part of the singer, because of course, everyone knows the singer doesn't really sound like that.

Everything the 'waify' style touches turns to ash.

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Old 08-13-2015, 04:27 PM
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Yeah that last one is apotheopoetic.

Does anyone here dislike Gwen Stefani and her singing as much as I do? I have felt like I was in an alternate universe ever since she became (Popular?) I find it hard to write that.
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:07 AM
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Thanks for posting that video, Noogah. I was starting to wonder if I was completely knee-jerk contrariwise to everyone else in this thread, a sucker for anything with this vocal style. But that song is boring, and the singing doesn't fit with the electronica accompanying it. Total fail.
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Old 08-17-2015, 02:08 PM
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Noogah, I like you. I feel like we should go on a date.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:58 AM
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Oh boy. Before I found this thread, I thought I was the only one who felt this way about these singers! I listen to Korean and Japanese music, and a couple singers have made it big with this style... Sometimes (and depending on the artist, often times) I like the song itself, but the singing just creates a terrible itch in my nerves, and I start hunting through the interwebs for people who agree, so I can validate that I'm not the only one who is aggravated by this.

Now, I can understand an occasional wispiness for stylistic effect, but these people sing, all day long, for every song in this way. The thing that just puts me over the edge? People who say how "unique" that singer's voice is. In fact, today someone I know remarked how a certain singer's voice "is so unique, that once you hear it once, you'll never forget it." Uh huh. Riiight. So unique. So unique that I couldn't even remember what she sounded like, just that she sounded really generic. When I passively commented, "Really? I don't really think her voice is that unique...," I got a cold stare. I'm sure other singers could sing in this way too, if they wanted, but they actually know how to sing to preserve their voices and breaths. In fact, many of these girls sound just AWFUL live because they're basically leaking air and can't breathe well.

What's more, these girls are often accompanied by looks. If these girls were the opposite of attractive and young, nobody would listen past the second measure. When googling this phenomena, it appears that studies have actually been conducted about peoples' preferences(http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0062397), suggesting that breathiness is associated with softness and gentleness.

It seems that this singing style combines with a small, delicate frame to provide an image of gentleness and weakness some people like.

A Korean singer, er pop idol IU sings like this, and people LOVE to talk about how unique her voice is blahblahblah, but when she accidentally posted a photo if herself with a half-naked guy, suddenly they didn't like her voice so much anymore.

Also, YUI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYj5F1OD9w I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

Not too familiar with male singers, so I can't really comment. Sorry.

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Old 09-29-2015, 02:44 AM
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The Rugby world cup is currently taking place in England and the channel ITV are showing most of the games. Which is a shame because this is the fucking travesty that they are using as the intro/outro music before the show and around the ad breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0m-YnH0j78

Paloma Faith absolutely butchering "World in Union", every time I hear a clip it makes me want to rip my ears off and bolt some sound deadening pads in their place. Nasally waify bullshit that takes a great song and makes it unlistenable, who the hell thought that was a good idea.
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:57 AM
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Maybe it is that I grew up listening to Shoegazing, but I seem to have always liked this sort of stuff. Slowdive, for example, employ it for both their male and female singers. Take this track from 1991 or from a completely male take, this one from 1994.

I'd take it over the vocal masturbation of the types you get on TV "talent" shows any day of the week.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:23 PM
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I love me some shoegazer music too, although I wonder if this is the kind of singing meant by the OP.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:37 PM
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I love me some shoegazer music too, although I wonder if this is the kind of singing meant by the OP.
Only shoegaze music I know is Explosions in the Sky and M83.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:53 PM
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I think Suzanne Vega (now in her 50s) was the original annoying waif voice for me. Loathe her, loathe her less talented waif-daughters even more.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:25 AM
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But doesn't this singing style (or a precursor of it, anyway) go back at least to Blossom Dearie, nearly a half century before Chan Marshall entered the music scene?
THAT'S who I was thinking of. I was trying to find some School House Rock videos that she did to demonstrate it was much older than the 90s but I was having no luck.

I do have to admit a cheesy affection for Donna Lewis, who did the same style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqdWTeXWvOg
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:09 AM
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Whoa, that is a pop song I had long forgotten existed but now recall that it was indeed a guilty pleasure of mine as well.

Glad to hear someone agrees about Blossom Dearie! It's fun, kind of like researching the origin of slang words, to feel like you've found the earliest cite.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:26 AM
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I love me some shoegazer music too, although I wonder if this is the kind of singing meant by the OP.
It was more the very breathy style. Not all shoegazing is like that, but the likes of Slowdive were. In my opinion.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:28 AM
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Only shoegaze music I know is Explosions in the Sky and M83.
Explosions in the Sky are post rock. Quite different.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:31 AM
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It was more the very breathy style. Not all shoegazing is like that, but the likes of Slowdive were. In my opinion.
Without speaking for the OP, my sense of the music s/he posted is that the style involves spare instrumentation and a kind of meandering, almost halting, vocal style. Shoegazer is very flowing and far from spare.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:50 AM
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The Rugby world cup is currently taking place in England and the channel ITV are showing most of the games. Which is a shame because this is the fucking travesty that they are using as the intro/outro music before the show and around the ad breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0m-YnH0j78

Paloma Faith absolutely butchering "World in Union", every time I hear a clip it makes me want to rip my ears off and bolt some sound deadening pads in their place. Nasally waify bullshit that takes a great song and makes it unlistenable, who the hell thought that was a good idea.
Oh yes, this. A thousand times this. She seems a lovely young lady but I fear I might happily kill her with fire.

It is a modern pestilence that needs stamping out. There is no song that is actually improved by covering it in this fashion. Jose Gonzalez dig a decent job with a waify-style cover of "heartbeat" but the original was far better.

But possibly the worst example, and I hesitate to inflict this on you all, is this fucking travesty.

Paul Weller created one of the greatest songs of misery, despair, hopelessness and urban decay. Possibly the most sarcastic title of any song ever and it gets turned in a helpless, gutless little ditty to sell a Renault. I get the feeling that when that came out and Weller saw it, he spent some considerable time just staring into space, clenching and unclenching his fists with his eyes twitching occasionally. I know I did.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:25 AM
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But possibly the worst example, and I hesitate to inflict this on you all, is this fucking travesty.
Oh for fucks sake, thats just awful, I'd rather not have known about that.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:41 AM
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Oh for fucks sake, thats just awful, I'd rather not have known about that.
I am truly sorry, but it is better that you know such things exist, sunlight is the best disinfectant and all that.
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:34 AM
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But possibly the worst example, and I hesitate to inflict this on you all, is this fucking travesty.
That one really needs the word "not" added before entertainment. Or maybe after a la Wayne's World.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:08 AM
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This thread has got to be in the lead for 'Most times resurrected by someone who joined SDMB just to post in this thread.' Will that fit on a trophy?
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:02 PM
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This popped up recently in my Facebook timeline:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/w...ice#.kiNvNYwRg
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:25 PM
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Great article, amanset--thanks. Interesting to me that those examples seem more "pop" than "indie" to me, whereas most of those offered earlier in this thread are more toward the other end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be the first time a trend has worked its way in that direction.
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:36 PM
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I sympathize but it's not like affected singing styles is something new to the world of pop. The first trend to get on my nerves (about 45 years ago if you're curious) was the ersatz-countrified pronunciations by rock and pop artists. Sexxeh for sexy, singin' for singing, sugaah for sugar,
that sort of thing.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:40 PM
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Yet another person who found this thread by Googling. In my case I used "annoying little girl voice." Bingo.

Thank God I am not alone in despising this hellborn affected style. I draw strength and consolation from my fellow haters.

I have no clever rationale to explain its popularity. I can only share more examples.

First, a song I thought I liked. The Cowboy Junkies cover of Lou Reed's Sweet Jane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4XVJj4jER4

My excuse for liking it is that it was years ago and I'd never heard the style before. The CJ's were virtually alone at the time in using it.

Then about a year ago I watched an iPhone ad entitled Parenthood. The combination of cloying video and a little girl voice singing in the background nauseated me. My first thought was that Steve Jobs was going to rise from his grave and rip off the head of Tim Cook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9q_61anHk

And finally, at the start of this Christmas season Dick's Sporting Goods started running an ad featuring a cover of the Beatles From Me to You.

http://www.popisms.com/TelevisionCom...2015-pres.aspx

Effing awful.
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Old 12-02-2015, 05:55 PM
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The second and third links are perfectly serviceable examples of the style (although I don't hate them since I am one of the only dissenters on this thread). I am at a loss to understand, however, where you are getting the idea that the Cowboy Junkies cover fits.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:48 AM
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The second and third links are perfectly serviceable examples of the style (although I don't hate them since I am one of the only dissenters on this thread). I am at a loss to understand, however, where you are getting the idea that the Cowboy Junkies cover fits.
I lovvvvve that CJ cover, and even I must admit that Ms. Timmins is waifin' it up. I also think that, like Lex 1, that was the first song that I remember hearing the singer using that style and it was new and oh so sexy (and I'm a straight chick). Sadly, if I were hearing it for the first time today, I might not like it as well.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:10 AM
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I lovvvvve that CJ cover, and even I must admit that Ms. Timmins is waifin' it up. I also think that, like Lex 1, that was the first song that I remember hearing the singer using that style and it was new and oh so sexy (and I'm a straight chick). Sadly, if I were hearing it for the first time today, I might not like it as well.
That's the way I feel about it. The song gets a pass because of when I first heard it.

That song in the Parenthood as, is especially vile. You only got to hear 60 seconds of it in the ad. The full song is much, much, worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XepF45x_Lbk

Julie Doiron, waif singer.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:54 PM
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How about indie-riffic?
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:39 PM
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https://vine.co/v/OTg0nO2mFKU

Watch this guy make fun of what I call the Indie Witch-Girl singing style. It's when girls think they sound like an old timey jazz singer but actually just sound like a dying cat or a cutesy old british woman.

And how about Daughter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzI_GrBP2HM
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:48 PM
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Another good song! Regardless of the intent, I have added a number of good tracks to my Apple Music playlists thanks to this thread.

And yes: that Vine guy is clever, and funny. But just because something can be parodied does not inherently make it bad.
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Old 12-20-2015, 12:39 AM
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That's the way I feel about it. The song gets a pass because of when I first heard it.
I just heard this on the radio the other day again, and it doesn't quite have the same kind of overly affected singing style that I associate with the music mentioned in the OP. It's whispery and sexy, but doesn't having the annoying idiosyncratic inflections and vowel contortionism that I associate with the "indie chick" vocal styling. Margo still sings it pretty straight, but in a whispery register.
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Old 12-20-2015, 12:44 AM
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Yes! Thank you. I thought I was losing my mind, with everyone claiming it fit.
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And finally, at the start of this Christmas season Dick's Sporting Goods started running an ad featuring a cover of the Beatles From Me to You.

http://www.popisms.com/TelevisionCom...2015-pres.aspx

Effing awful.
Wow. That one is especially vile because of the people singing with her. The guy tries to harmonize with her whisper and can't even stay in tune. And then the full "choir" comes in and absolutely cannot blend with her voice.

I mean, while it's not my usual cup of tea, I can appreciate that voice when it's used for an appropriate reason. But it just sounds awful here.
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I just heard this on the radio the other day again, and it doesn't quite have the same kind of overly affected singing style that I associate with the music mentioned in the OP. It's whispery and sexy, but doesn't having the annoying idiosyncratic inflections and vowel contortionism that I associate with the "indie chick" vocal styling. Margo still sings it pretty straight, but in a whispery register.
I concur. That's not the style at all. She's just using a bit of whisper to add a smokey quality to her voice. It's not high and thin like the indie-girl voice. It's airy to add a bit a sexiness, not a wistful tone. The upper harmonics are still present, and she's got a bit of a speak-sing tone.

In short, she still sounds like a strong woman, not a waif.
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acknowledgement, somewhat in the mainstream

Although Father John Misty doesn't sing in the sick cat voice, I find him annoying as a person. BUT - I'm pretty sure he's talking about what we're talking about in his song "The Night Josh Tillman Came To Our Apartment":

We sang "Silent Night" in three parts which was fun
Til she said that she sounds just like Sarah Vaughan
I hate that soulful affectation white girls put on


A lot of people who sing like this seem to think they're doing a jazz thing, like a Billie Holiday style. Let's not demonize the accidental godparents of this style, though Mr. Bungle shouldn't be blamed for Korn, for instance. Ya dig? Just wanted to highlight that someone in the world whence most of these singers spawn is aware of, and dislikes, that style.
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