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Old 10-15-2016, 08:43 PM
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farmers dump 43 million gallons of milk......[edited title]

don't know if this counts as a food story.....http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...uFb?li=BBnbfcL

I always thought the usda free food programs took the excess
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:11 PM
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In the grand scheme of things, what's the big deal about 43 gallons of milk? Or is the story that someone cried as a result?
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:25 PM
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In the grand scheme of things, what's the big deal about 43 gallons of milk? Or is the story that someone cried as a result?
There's a missing 6 orders of magnitude that make this story slightly more relevant.
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:35 PM
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Yeah, I think the title should be changed to "43 million".

I remember back in the day when it was quite common for milk to be dumped because the price was too low to make it worth the price it cost to send to market. Back when there was "govt. cheese". Which made the best grilled cheese sandwiches ever!

Even then I thought it was sickening but realized farmers have to be paid.
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:57 PM
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Yeah, I think the title should be changed to "43 million".

I remember back in the day when it was quite common for milk to be dumped because the price was too low to make it worth the price it cost to send to market. Back when there was "govt. cheese". Which made the best grilled cheese sandwiches ever!

Even then I thought it was sickening but realized farmers have to be paid.
We had a "gummint cheese" thread here several months back. The consensus was: you're 100% correct--superb cheez.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:02 PM
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I always thought the usda free food programs took the excess
They do buy some of it, as mentioned in the very article you linked to.

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On Tuesday, the USDA pledged to buy about $20 million of cheddar cheese to help struggling dairy farmers, the second time it has intervened in the market in less than three months.
But there's only so much government cheese you can give away. The farmers over-produced, now there's a glut. Not much you can do about that except try to be more careful in the future about your demand forecasts.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:12 PM
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ok I asked for a title change heh I didn't even see that until now ......
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:22 PM
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I love moo-juice--Heck, 43 gallons is my average daily intake.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:28 PM
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I edited the title to 43 million gallons
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:34 PM
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:24 PM
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I feel like it would have been a more useful metric to say something like, "Enough milk to cover 30 million families for one week", rather than using the number of Olympic sized swimming pools that could be filled.
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:40 PM
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of course all the anti dairy people filled the comments under the article ...

When did that start ? I know some people always been that way concerning how they treat the cows but saying milk and sugar are 2 of the biggest poisions around ?
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:45 PM
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of course all the anti dairy people filled the comments under the article ...

When did that start ? I know some people always been that way concerning how they treat the cows but saying milk and sugar are 2 of the biggest poisions around ?
Yup, dairy, sugar and gluten are the "in" things to avoid right now. Even if you're not lactose intolerant, celiac or diabetic. Apparently they're all poison. No, I don't get it either.
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:48 PM
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Yup, dairy, sugar and gluten are the "in" things to avoid right now. Even if you're not lactose intolerant, celiac or diabetic. Apparently they're all poison. No, I don't get it either.
These people are clearly loony. That's why my diet consists solely of ice cream cones now.
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:17 AM
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If milk and sugar are poison, I've been dying a slow, lingering death for years.
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:59 AM
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Welp, now I look like an idiot.
Oh yeah, NOW you look like an idiot...
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If milk and sugar are poison, I've been dying a slow, lingering death for years.
Haven't we all?

except for those that died quick, I suppose
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:53 PM
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Well, since I am both diabetic and lactose intolerant, I don't mind if it's fashionable to avoid those things these days. Hey, I was fashionable before it was fashionable!

However, back to the OP, if farmers are dumping that much milk it seems just possible that there are more dairy farmers than the market can support.
Just a thought.
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Old 10-16-2016, 01:17 PM
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In other news, 43 million kittens shave their heads in mourning.
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Old 10-16-2016, 01:21 PM
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My uncle bought all his young calves from a local dairy. He bottle raised them on formula and eventually fattened them up on grain and hay. He took the steers to auction when they were almost a year old. He always sent one steer to the meat packer for the family freezer too.

Dairies don't have to sell calves. They can predict when market demand for milk will be down. The dairy can keep them and let the calf nurse from mom. Eventually sell the year old steers at auction. Selling beef is an extra revenue source.

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Old 10-16-2016, 03:57 PM
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:02 PM
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My uncle bought all his young calves from a local dairy. He bottle raised them on formula and eventually fattened them up on grain and hay. He took the steers to auction when they were almost a year old. He always sent one steer to the meat packer for the family freezer too.

Dairies don't have to sell calves. They can predict when market demand for milk will be down. The dairy can keep them and let the calf nurse from mom. Eventually sell the year old steers at auction. Selling beef is an extra revenue source.
Dairy cows are a different breed from meat cows and, if sold, generally only qualify as the lowest grades of meat. What you're saying may occur at the individual, artisanal end of the market but generally commodity dairy producers will turn their excess heads into veal. I've never heard of commodity dairy producers attempt to make a profit from rearing excess dairy cattle into steers and I suspect the cost of feed + care would make this a loss making venture.
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:20 PM
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I've noticed the past three or four times I've been at the grocery store that milk has been consistently cheap lately. Though I wouldn't expect demand for milk to be very flexible-- Nobody says "Oh, milk is expensive right now, I'll just put off buying it for another week or two".
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Old 10-23-2016, 02:22 PM
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However, back to the OP, if farmers are dumping that much milk it seems just possible that there are more dairy farmers than the market can support.
But Heaven forfend the government drive those poor, hard-working, conservative farmers out of business by cutting off subsidies!
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