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Old 05-03-2016, 01:33 PM
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Mentioned many times before but may as well bring up office building sprinklers here. Holding a lighter up to a sprinkler will not drench the entire building in water - it will only activate the sprinkler head that you held the lighter under. There's a tiny glass bubble on each unit that breaks under heat - if no heat breaks the glass in other sprinkler heads, they do not activate.

Also, cell phone reception in movies is exceptional, unless the plot requires it not to be, then it's comically terrible where it shouldn't be - like, say, Isla Nublar.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:34 PM
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This one bugs me to no end, especially when the gun is a Glock or similar striker-fired pistol that has no hammer to cock. Somehow, they still make a cocking noise when the holder gets really serious and wants to intimidate someone.

And how often do you see a cop or bad guy racking the slide of a pistol to load the chamber. You mean, you carry it around without it being ready to fire?
Have you ever been in an armed showdown? It's not tense as a lot of quick camera edits make it seem. People's minds wander, and you might have to rack your shotgun several times to keep everybody's heads in the game.

Cracked frequently flogs these kinds of issues, or I'm frequently re-reading the same articles. Either way, it's an interesting topic and I'm glad to be better informed. One thing they have mentioned is that suppressors, such as they are, really only muffle some 10% of the noise from a gun. Also, guns aren't nearly as easy to bullseye as seen in zombie movies. Much of gunfire in actual combat is used to control how free the enemy is to shoot back. I've just about gotten over the fact that you can't draw ninja swords over your shoulder if they're strapped across your back.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:37 PM
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No one rolls face to face with their bed partner and kisses intimately in the morning. <shudder>
Why not? Their makeup and hair will still be perfect, so their breath must also have stayed fresh too.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:45 PM
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Likewise, going through plate glass usually just makes you dead.
This one always bugs me more than all the others combined. I hate it when someone "conveniently" crashes through a window or car windshield and the glass just breaks away with little or no damage. And it's usually very thin glass.

Nuh-uh. Store front windows and car windshields are made of TEMPERED glass, for safety reasons. When they break, they don't shatter. They usually just crack into a million small, dull pieces but remain somewhat in place.
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:21 PM
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Most (I would hope) civilians/victims don't run around their office/store/home doing tasks while being questioned by a police officer. Normal folk sit down and pay intense attention to cops' questions and their own responses (I'm looking at you, SVU, CSI, and most every crime drama ever invented).
That always makes me nutty. "You need to question me about the murder of one of my employees? The one who quit after accusing me of having an affair with his wife? That's pretty important but not really inventorying-these-shoes important..."
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:23 PM
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I saw a police shoot out on one of those Caught on Camera shows and was disappointed at the sounds of the firearms. All the pistols sounded like little cap guns! Come on, man ... in the movies they always sound sooo deadly and awesome. It's upsetting.
You may know this and were just posting in jest, but that's a function of the limitations of the sound recording equipment used in the production of those shows. Those gunshots probably sounded a lot closer to what you hear in movies to the people who were actually there.
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:57 PM
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You may know this and were just posting in jest, but that's a function of the limitations of the sound recording equipment used in the production of those shows. Those gunshots probably sounded a lot closer to what you hear in movies to the people who were actually there.
Yeah, other than a .22LR, gunshots are very, very loud. I shoot outdoors, and really can't comprehend how loud they would sound inside of a car or room, as we see on TV shows.

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In TV shows and movies, when people go camping, hiking or hunting, they always have brand new clothing and equipment that shows no wear or use. I realize all clothing and equipment is brand new at some point, but unless the story line is about a new participant, most of the stuff would be old and used.
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:19 PM
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There are slow-acting poisons that function like a time bomb. You can predict the time of death to the precise minute. The hero has 24, 48 or 72 hours to find the antidote. It's always an exact number of days. If the victim is given the antidote a few seconds before the deadline, he will make a complete recovery in less than a minute.

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Old 05-03-2016, 03:25 PM
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Not a movie, but on Night Gallery: Dear Joan: We're Going to Scare you to Death with Joan Crawford, at the 4:30 mark you don't use an inhaler by holding it inches from your face and squirting it into the air.
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Old 05-03-2016, 04:07 PM
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I seriously doubt if time bombs have dramatic red LED counters on them. An awful lot of improvised bombs (like the Patriot's Day bombs in Boston, or the one in Valkrye) d\don't rely on electronic or mechanical timers at all.

If I ever built one, I'd be sure that the bomb would detonate at something like 1:45 on the counter, just so anyone disarming it would not really know how much time was left.


And I'd make ALL the wires red.
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Old 05-03-2016, 05:04 PM
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A solid blow to the testicles ends the fight. It ends the fight.
I wouldn't count on that. Most people, yes, although trying to actually deliver such a blow is harder than it looks. Some will just look at you funny and then punch you in the face.
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Old 05-03-2016, 05:49 PM
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You can't have a gun fired near you at close range and not experience some kind of hearing damage.

(Watching "Magic City" last night and one character shoots a gun across the other character. Second character later rubs his ear - my husband said that was first time he's ever seen someone on TV acknowledge that a close-range gunshot hurt their ears.)
There was an episode of Fringe where the technobabble doodad of the week killed people by generating some sort of sound. In order to retrieve it quickly and without dying from the sound, one of the characters had another fire off a gun next to his head so he couldn't hear the device anymore.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:07 PM
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Not a movie, but on Night Gallery: Dear Joan: We're Going to Scare you to Death with Joan Crawford, at the 4:30 mark you don't use an inhaler by holding it inches from your face and squirting it into the air.
For some inhalers you, in fact, do hold it an inch or so away from your mouth. Note figure a here.

Some inhalers will shoot most of the medication to the back of your throat if you put it in your mouth. By holding it away from your mouth and breathing in you get the full dose of medication. Newbies can buy special spacers or use an empty toilet paper roll to get the correct distance.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:14 PM
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I wouldn't count on that. Most people, yes, although trying to actually deliver such a blow is harder than it looks. Some will just look at you funny and then punch you in the face.
But in the films, they make the comical puffer face and crossed eyes after being struck, but are able to give chase a minute later.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:15 PM
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The only realistic depiction of a blow to the testicles I have seen is from 'An Officer and a Gentleman' where Luis Gossett Jr falls to the map and blows snot bubbles.
I thought Luis Gossett Jr was the kicker, not the kickee.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:04 PM
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I thought Luis Gossett Jr was the kicker, not the kickee.
Indeed. It was Richard Gere who ate mat.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:05 PM
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The knife fight in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was probably also a pretty realistic portrayal of a nut shot.

"Rules? In a knife fight?"
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:53 PM
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Way back in the Watergate era, a news cameraman walked through a glass window. He was tracking some bigwigs who were walking down the corridor out of an office building; he was paralleling them, so taping them from the side.

They went through the door.

He went through the window beside the door.

The image jiggled a little, then he caught right up with them again. It was almost as inconsequential as if he'd gone through another door. (But he didn't! You could see the glass flying!)
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:41 PM
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Tasers do not knock people out.
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:13 PM
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I'm curious what movies you are watching. I haven't noticed that it is a common theme for anyone to fall in love with stalkers or rapists.
Fred Burton (an alias) stalks Joan Manion in The Sky's the Limit. James Bond romps with Pussy Galore in the hay. Commonness could depend on what one watches.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:24 AM
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I've never yet seen a "stop" button in an elevator.

It's incredibly difficult for one car to catch another that has a head start and trying to escape. Especially within a city with multiple routes a car can disappear with virtually no chance of finding it within 60 seconds. (and yes, I outran a chasing car with a 20 second head start and "lost" it in a subdivision)

Already mentioned - but a van is not going to keep up with sports car

Rooftops are generally locked and inaccessible without the proper authorisation / keys.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:35 AM
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I've never yet seen a "stop" button in an elevator.
I'll double-check and try to post a photo, but I think I've seen this lots of times. Not just a "door open" button, that doesn't always work, but a big red emergency button. Let me get back to you...

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. . . (and yes, I outran a chasing car with a 20 second head start and "lost" it in a subdivision) . . .
Grin! Back in my misguided youth, I did that too. I whipped into an apartment complex and parked in someone's space. Engine off, lights out, I'm as good as invisible.

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Rooftops are generally locked and inaccessible without the proper authorisation / keys.
And rooftops are at very different heights; there's no possible way to do a rooftop chase of any significance. And streets are much too wide to be jumped across. Movies make it look like a whole "other world" up there, and that's just a load of hooey.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:47 AM
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For the record, if properly motivated, tires will squeal on dirt roads. Been there, done that!
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Old 05-04-2016, 01:13 AM
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I'll double-check and try to post a photo, but I think I've seen this lots of times. Not just a "door open" button, that doesn't always work, but a big red emergency button. Let me get back to you...


is it a regional thing? I've travelled in NZ, Oz, through parts of Asia (Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia) and have seriously never seen it in 42 years...
I have seen "door hold" on goods lifts, but never an honest to god "stop" that would hold the elevator between floors
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Old 05-04-2016, 01:33 AM
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There are emergency buttons in American elevators, but I don't think they cause the elevator to screech to a halt. I think they're just alarms. A bell rings and maybe someone tries to call you on the intercom.

Sometimes there's a thing that says "stop," next to where the fire department key is inserted. (IIRC when an elevator is in fire mode it works sort of like an old fashioned elevator with an operator, so the firefighters have time to load it up with hoses and rescued people and such.)

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Old 05-04-2016, 03:12 AM
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When you fast reverse or fast forward a videotape, you don't hear the sound pitched higher and at a faster speed. The VCRs I've used have all muted the sound when you rewind or fast forward. You do not hear people on the tape speaking like Chip and Dale.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:49 AM
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On rare occasion they even mask the show soundtrack for a few seconds so that it sounds like you (the audience) have also experienced having your ears blown out.
Not that rare, and it drove me fucking nuts when I was marathoning the seasons that are on Netflix. I suffer from tinnitus...one of the things that can set it off is frequencies in the same range. So, I'm not just getting a simulation of the tinnitus, I'm getting the real damn thing, and I will be for the rest of the episode.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:08 AM
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At a judicial hanging, the condemned man doesn't die the second he drops, even if the neck is broken.

Prison lights do not dim when someone is executed in the electric chair. (It has its own generator.)

If you try to jump a car like it's the General Lee, the vehicle will be completely destroyed on landing. And passengers are going to be seriously injured, too.

Guns never have recoil in the movies. Nor does the shooter ever need to use two hands while firing.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:39 AM
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Since nobody mentioned it, I'm assuming it's true that hospital supply rooms and sleeping quarters are hotbeds of daily sexual activity between doctors and nurses.
According to my father, who was quite scandalized by it, yes but not limited to doctors and nurses.




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Let's stick with common devices and machines rather than scientific concepts and theories. Otherwise, we'll devolve pretty quickly into an endless spectrum of things the movies get wrong.
Are DNA and chemical analysis "common devices and machines"? Because the immense majority of what goes on in the lab in cop shows makes Star Trek look realistic.

And you can't be in front of the Biltmore in Miami and then in the middle of the Everglades in a matter of half an hour. Not even if that Pontiac flies.


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Fred Burton (an alias) stalks Joan Manion in The Sky's the Limit. James Bond romps with Pussy Galore in the hay. Commonness could depend on what one watches.
Lots of romcoms, too, and lots of stories set in high school or college (both movies and TV). Sleepless in Seattle is the one which always comes to mind.

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Old 05-04-2016, 04:41 AM
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An untrained person forced to do a parachute jump will probably suffer significant lower leg injuries.

You wont win at the casino.
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:16 AM
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Using an AED on a patient with a stopped heart will do nothing. Asystole is a non-shockable "rhythm." An AED (Automatic/Automated External Defibrillator) is only effective at shocking a heart to attempt to get it to revert to normal rhythm. It's ineffective on a stopped heart,

Also, in my 8+ years as an EMT, I can count the number of patients that have had CPR performed on them and lived. It's in single digits. Generally, unless you witness the person going down, CPR will be started too late to be effective.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:00 AM
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If I figured out who the killer was, I would not confront them alone in an isolated place. I'd call the cops.

Evan Hunter once remarked to his wife: If I die, don't call the snoopy next door lady who is always finding bodies and solving mysteries. Call the cops." This idea led to his creation of the 87th Precient mysteries under the nom de plum of Ed McBain.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:13 AM
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Not that rare, and it drove me fucking nuts when I was marathoning the seasons that are on Netflix. I suffer from tinnitus...one of the things that can set it off is frequencies in the same range. So, I'm not just getting a simulation of the tinnitus, I'm getting the real damn thing, and I will be for the rest of the episode.
I have tinnitus in my left ear as well and while I appreciated the gag it annoyingly set off mine as well.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:30 AM
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You wont win at the casino.
Similarly, if you win at poker in real life, it's probably with something simple like a pair or two pair. And if by some extreme chance in real life your first four cards are the KQJ10 of diamonds, you're not hoping for the Ace of Diamonds. You're hoping for any ace or 9 to complete the straight, or any diamond to complete the flush, or any KQJ10 to complete the pair, or for your opponent to have no hand and nothing higher than a Q. If you win at poker in a movie, it's always a royal flush. Movie poker skill consists in being really good at luck.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:45 AM
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Prison lights do not dim when someone is executed in the electric chair. (It has its own generator.)
Speaking of, I doubt cities dramatically go dark block by block ("Chunk! Chunk!") when the power station goes offline.

My old college dorm elevator had a stop button. It also had an alarm that would ring when it was stopped. I think students would try to stop it either for nookie or else just to "see what it does" because you'd heard the alarm fairly often, especially in the beginning of the semester when the building had new residents.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:04 AM
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When you fast reverse or fast forward a videotape, you don't hear the sound pitched higher and at a faster speed. The VCRs I've used have all muted the sound when you rewind or fast forward. You do not hear people on the tape speaking like Chip and Dale.
Although this does happen on some betacam machines I've used, but yeah not on regular VCRs.


When looking through binoculars, the image you see is not in a figure eight shape, it's a circle. This one is really annoying because unlike say, knocking someone unconscious or blowing up a car, who hasn't looked through binoculars at some point in their life?! You know you don't see two circles!
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:08 AM
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Have you ever turned on the radio or television and gotten the exact start of the news broadcast that you wanted to hear?

Or googled something totally obscure and gotten the right page on the first hit?
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:13 AM
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Have you ever turned on the radio or television and gotten the exact start of the news broadcast that you wanted to hear?

Or googled something totally obscure and gotten the right page on the first hit?
I always roll my eyes when one character calls another character and says, "turn on the TV". The call recipient invariably turns the TV on and it's not only tuned to the correct channel for the news broadcast, but the story is just now beginning. Most markets have several local stations, as well as the normal four news channels, and yet the one that's needed pops up immediately... and they've been holding the related news story for just the right moment.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:17 AM
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When looking through binoculars, the image you see is not in a figure eight shape, it's a circle. This one is really annoying because unlike say, knocking someone unconscious or blowing up a car, who hasn't looked through binoculars at some point in their life?! You know you don't see two circles!
Well, I see two overlapping circles. I've got funny eyes, mind you.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:26 AM
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I always roll my eyes when one character calls another character and says, "turn on the TV". The call recipient invariably turns the TV on and it's not only tuned to the correct channel for the news broadcast, but the story is just now beginning. Most markets have several local stations, as well as the normal four news channels, and yet the one that's needed pops up immediately... and they've been holding the related news story for just the right moment.
I don't get why this, and the parking tropes, and the drive time tropes, upset people. Of course it isn't real. Real is BORING, especially when one is trying to tell a story in 43 minutes (or 2 hours in the case of a movie). Seconds on screen matter, and no one wants to wait while the new smart plasma TV and cable box boot up, unless it is plot related. No one wants to watch people circle blocks in NYC looking for parking then walking blocks to get where one really wants to go in a 22 minute sitcom. Some things need to be let go for the sake of expediency in moving the plot.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:37 AM
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I don't get why this, and the parking tropes, and the drive time tropes, upset people. Of course it isn't real. Real is BORING, especially when one is trying to tell a story in 43 minutes (or 2 hours in the case of a movie). Seconds on screen matter, and no one wants to wait while the new smart plasma TV and cable box boot up, unless it is plot related. No one wants to watch people circle blocks in NYC looking for parking then walking blocks to get where one really wants to go in a 22 minute sitcom. Some things need to be let go for the sake of expediency in moving the plot.
I guess this just isn't the thread for you, then.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:03 AM
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I guess this just isn't the thread for you, then.
Actually, I'm 'with' a lot of this thread. The stuff about elevators and (lack of) concussions shown in TV and movies (and let's not even mention CSI stuff) just promotes ignorance versus being done just to shave time.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:10 AM
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And random people cannot go into any business, especially hospitals, hack into their computers and change stuff. Especially paternity tests.

The TV show leverage does this one, and Alex is a superhero in that respect. Elliot is the hitting someone unconscious superhero.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:18 AM
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And another thing: I love the movie Point Break (the original, not the utter crap fest remake) but at the end of the movie when Johnny Utah jumps out of the plane without a parachute with the intent of catching up to Bodi, who has already jumped, is the most improbable thing ever.

You can't fall faster than someone else and catch up to them - they would've both maintained the same free fall speed until a parachute was pulled.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:23 AM
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Are you sure about that? Things only fall at the same speed in a vacuum. If one jumper maximises air resistance, and the other streamlines, then they will fall at different speeds, won't they?
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:25 AM
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Actually, I'm 'with' a lot of this thread. The stuff about elevators and (lack of) concussions shown in TV and movies (and let's not even mention CSI stuff) just promotes ignorance versus being done just to shave time.
I'll concede you do have a point. One is artistic license - to keep a story moving, or to maintain suspense - and the other is just being wrong about something. I suppose getting the suspect to admit everything, including elaborating to fill in the blanks, falls somewhere in the middle.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:26 AM
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Are you sure about that? Things only fall at the same speed in a vacuum. If one jumper maximises air resistance, and the other streamlines, then they will fall at different speeds, won't they?
Yeah, and I would think that a guy wearing a parachute pack will have more wind resistance than someone who doesn't. Now, steering yourself and intersecting with the first jumper seems pretty farfetched for a novice.
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And another thing: I love the movie Point Break (the original, not the utter crap fest remake) but at the end of the movie when Johnny Utah
Whose name inspired the character Utah Johnny Montana* in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr.

* He's from Idaho
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Similarly, if you win at poker in real life, it's probably with something simple like a pair or two pair.
A nice touch in "Rounders" was that the protagonist wins the climactic hand by flopping a fairly ordinary straight. Nothing fancy about it; he plays 8-9 suited, flops 6-7-10 rainbow, and the turn and river are total bricks. It's a much more likely scenario for someone to completely stack the other guy than the usual "hit a straight flush on the river" nonsense.
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A blast from a shotgun, even at close range, is surprisingly unlikely to send a 200lb man into backflips.
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Guns never have recoil in the movies. Nor does the shooter ever need to use two hands while firing.
Movie guns have the special "Recoil Reverser", which sends all the recoil into the target.
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