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Old 08-21-2017, 04:37 PM
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Actors who died before people they played

For example, Sam Shepard played Chuck Yeager in The Right Stuff. Sam died last month, but Chuck is still going. That's a pretty unusual situation, but it can't be unique, right? What are some other examples?
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:42 PM
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Heath Ledger as "Robbie Clark," which is a persona of Bob Dylan in I'm Not There, but I'm not sure it qualifies.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:56 PM
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In Lords of Dogtown Heath Ledger (died 2008) played Skip Engbloom who is still alive.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:04 PM
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Patch Adams and Oliver Sacks both survived Robin Williams.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:11 PM
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Also Williams played Adrian Cronauer (Good morning Vietnam) who is still alive.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:13 PM
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Bobby Watson played Adolf Hitler nine times, starting in 1942. Watson died in 1965.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:17 PM
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Bobby Watson played Adolf Hitler nine times, starting in 1942. Watson died in 1965.

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Actors who died before people they played

Uhh... you know some shit that we don't about Hitler?
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:21 PM
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If you believe sportswriter Fred Leib's claim that the character Walter Brennan played in "Pride of the Yankees" to be true (and they are reasonable), then Leib outlived Brennan by six years
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Uhh... you know some shit that we don't about Hitler?
I'll never tell.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:07 PM
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Ron Silver, who died in 2009, portrayed attorney Alan M. Dershowitz in Reversal of Fortune (1990), Henry Kissinger in Kissinger & Nixon (1995), attorney Robert Shapiro in American Tragedy (2000), and Muhammad Ali's trainer Angelo Dundee in Ali (2001). Dundee passed away in 2012; the rest are still alive.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:49 PM
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The character of Alex Latourno in 8 Mile is loosely based on Mathers' real girlfriend/future wife/future ex-wife Kim Scott. Brittany Murphy, who played Alex, died in 2009. Scott is still alive.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:57 PM
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Spencer Tracy (died 1967) played Jimmy Doolittle (died 1993) in Thirty Seconds over Tokyo (1944).
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:03 PM
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Bill Paxton (d.2017) portrayed Apollo 13 astronaut Fred Haise, who is still alive.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:05 PM
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Here's a twofer. Robert Taylor (died 1969) and Barry Nelson (died April 2007) both played Paul Tibbets (died November 2007) in, respectively, Above and Beyond (1952) and The Beginning of the End (1947).
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:13 PM
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Another "based on" character: Chance Buckman in Hellfighters was based on Red Adair. John Wayne, who played Buckman, died in 1979. Adair, who served as an advisor on the movie, died in 2004.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:18 PM
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Jason Robards (died 2000) played Ben Bradlee (died 2014) in All the President's Men (1976)

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Old 08-22-2017, 03:10 AM
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Do parodists count? Phil Hartman (d. 1998) played Ronald Reagan (d. 2004), Bill Clinton (living), Charlton Heston (d. 2008), Jack Nicholson (living), and many others on Saturday Night Live.
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Old 08-22-2017, 03:27 AM
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I found six in a 1950 bio-ic film "The Jackie Robinson Story" where baseball player Jackie Robinson plays himself. Minor Warson played Branch Rickey; Watson died in July 1965 and Rickey in December. Ruby Dee (died 2014) played Robinson's wife Rachel, who is still alive at 95. Harry Shannon (1964) played Frank Shaughnessy (1969) who was President of the minor league International League. Joel Fluellen (1990) played Robinson's older brother Mack (2000). Billy Wayne (1970) played Clyde Sukeforth (2000), the scout who signed Robinson to a Dodgers contract.
Louise Beavers (1964) played Robinson's mother Mallie (1968).
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Old 08-22-2017, 03:39 AM
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Anthony Perkins, who played baseball player Jimmy Piersall in Fear Strikes Out in 1957, died in 1992. Piersall died in 2017.
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:04 AM
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A lot of people who have portrayed Fidel Castro (Died November 25, 2016)

Going off IMDB

Night Train to Mundo Fine (1966) Played by Anthony Cardoza (7 December 2015)

Che! (1969) Played by Jack Palance (10 November 2006)

Revolutions: Fidel Castro (1970) Played by Bernard Horsfall (28 January 2013)

The Disciples (1999) (TV) Played by Armando Roblan (9 January 2013)
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:51 AM
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Do parodists count? Phil Hartman (d. 1998) played Ronald Reagan (d. 2004), Bill Clinton (living), Charlton Heston (d. 2008), Jack Nicholson (living), and many others on Saturday Night Live.
John Belushi (died 1982) parodied Joe Cocker (died 2014). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZsOyO_lXD8
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:59 AM
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Cliff Robertson (died in 2011) played Hugh Hefner (still alive) in Star 80.
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:01 AM
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I'm going to make an OP call, and say parodists don't count.

As I expected, you all came up with a ton of examples, even though I couldn't think of any. I'm sort of surprised how lopsided the male / female ratio is. Ruby Dee and Brittany Murphy are the only examples on the distaff side?

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Old 08-23-2017, 02:15 AM
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Everybody in the Star Trek movies.
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:25 AM
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I'm sort of surprised how lopsided the male / female ratio is. Ruby Dee and Brittany Murphy are the only examples on the distaff side?
Found another: Janet Brown (d. 2011) played Margaret Thatcher (d. 2013) in For Your Eyes Only (1981).
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:39 AM
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Philip Seymour Hoffman (died 2014) played Art Howe (still alive) in Moneyball.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:31 PM
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Not sure if this counts, but in "Boys From Brazil," the Laurence Olivier character is clearly supposed to be Simon Wiesenthal, who outlived Sir Larry.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:32 PM
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One to keep an eye on: Frank Serpico may yet outlive Al Pacino.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:38 PM
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Lindy "Dingos ate My Baby" Chamertlain is about the same age as Meryl Streep, and u but outlive her.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:46 PM
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Lee Strasberg died a year before mobster Meyer Lansky, whom he sort of played in "Godfather Part 2."
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:25 PM
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From All the President's Men: Ben Bradlee (d.2014) outlived Jason Robards (d.2000)

However, Hal Holbrook (alive) did outlive Mark "Deep Throat" Felt (d.2008), and Redford/Hoffman vs. Woodward/Bernstein is still up for grabs.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:26 AM
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A Farrah Fawcett two-fer: She died on June 25, 2009, eight years before Francine Hughes, whom she portrayed in the TV movie The Burning Bed. She also played the still living Elizabeth Diane Downes in the TV movie Small Sacrifices.
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Brad Davis is dead, but Billy Hayes,the convict he played in the Turkish prison movie "Midnight Express," is still alive.
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Old 08-26-2017, 10:14 AM
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American General "Jumping Jim" Gavin lived 17 years after the death of Robert Ryan, who played him in "The Longest Day."

And Lieutenant Colonel Ben Vandervoort outlived John Wayne, who played him in that same movie.
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Joseph Schildkraut died 16 years before Otto Frank (Anne's father), whom he played in "The Diary of Anne Frank."
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:47 AM
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American General "Jumping Jim" Gavin lived 17 years after the death of Robert Ryan, who played him in "The Longest Day."

And Lieutenant Colonel Ben Vandervoort outlived John Wayne, who played him in that same movie.
Well, Vandervoort cheated by being born 10 years after Wayne, taking an unfair advantage!

Sidetrack: Really irks me when age-inappropriate actors are chosen for historical roles: Gavin was 37 on D-Day, Ryan was 53 in the film; Vandervoort was 27 on D-Day, Wayne was 55 in the film. Side-sidetrack: Although I guess I'll give 30-year-old Audie Murphy a pass on portraying 19-year-old Audie Murphy in To Hell and Back (1955).
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Old 08-26-2017, 12:16 PM
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George Burns played the title role in "Oh God". (Nietzsche might object).
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Old 08-26-2017, 12:21 PM
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And ever actor who ever played Jesus who died and stayed dead (though a lot of non-Christians might object).
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Old 08-26-2017, 12:28 PM
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George DiCertzo played Vincent Bugliosi in the TV movie Helter Skelter. DiCertzo died in 2010; Bugliosi in 2015.
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:41 PM
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Well, Vandervoort cheated by being born 10 years after Wayne, taking an unfair advantage!

Sidetrack: Really irks me when age-inappropriate actors are chosen for historical roles: Gavin was 37 on D-Day, Ryan was 53 in the film; Vandervoort was 27 on D-Day, Wayne was 55 in the film. Side-sidetrack: Although I guess I'll give 30-year-old Audie Murphy a pass on portraying 19-year-old Audie Murphy in To Hell and Back (1955).
A Bridge Too Far got it right with Gavin (Ryan O'Neal was 36) but went horribly wrong with others like 41 year ol Redford playing a 28 year old.
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Jason Robards (died 2000) played Ben Bradlee (died 2014) in All the President's Men (1976)
Robards is one of 3 actors who died before the real life person they won Oscars portraying. The other two are:

*Gary Cooper (d. 1961) and Alvin York (d. 1964), Sergeant York
*Haing S. Ngor (d. 1996) and Dith Pran (d. 2008), The Killing Fields

Sam Shepard is one of 3 other people who died before the real life person they were nominated for an Oscar portraying. The other two are:

*Susan Hayward (d.1975) and Lilian Roth (d.1980), I'll Cry Tomorrow.
*Jennifer Jones (d.2009) and Elizabeth Comber (aka Han Suyin, d.2012), Love Is a Many-Splendoured Thing.
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Strictly speaking, this one doesn't count, but I'll use it anywasy.

90% of what Patrrick Dennis wrote about "Auntie Mame" was fictional, and he admitted it. The other 10% was based on his adventures with his eccentric aunt Marion Tanner.

IF we think Mame Dennis = Marion Tanner (and that's not at all clear), well, Dennis' zany aunt outlived both Rosalind Russell and Lucille Ball, who played her in movies.
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I thought I had another, but Sal Mineo just barely outlived jazz drummer Gene Krupa.
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Just started looking at sports movies. Baseball icons Rogers Hornsby and Joe McCarthy both outlived the actors who played them in Ronald Reagan's "The Winning Team."
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Old 08-27-2017, 11:51 PM
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Found another: Janet Brown (d. 2011) played Margaret Thatcher (d. 2013) in For Your Eyes Only (1981).
Likewise actor John Wells (d. 1998), who played her husband Denis Thatcher (d. 2003) in that scene.
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This one depends, I suppose, on who you believe.

Jackie Gleason, who played Minnesota Fats in The Hustler, died in 1987. Rudolf Wanderone, the real-life pool player who used the name Minnesota Fats, died in 1996.

The snag here is that Walderone only started calling himself Minnesota Fats after the movie was released. Prior to that, he had used several nicknames, including New York Fats, Chicago Fats, and Broadway Fats. He claimed that the character in The Hustler was based on him. On the other hand, Walter Tevis, the author of the original novel, denied that and always insisted that he had made up the Minnesota Fats character.
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Lindy "Dingos ate My Baby" Chamertlain is about the same age as Meryl Streep, and u but outlive her.
Both Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton and Meryl Streep are still alive.
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The amazing British actress Lucy Gordon had the talent and the looks to become a household name. Until she killed herself in 2009 just as her career was starting.

Before that she played French singer Jane Birkin in the movie Gainsbourg. Birkin is, luckily, still among us.
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Frank Vincent, who passed away this week, played Mafia hitman Frank Marino in Casino. The role was based on real life Mafia enforcer-turned-informant Frank Cullotta, who is still alive.
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