Oh, so that's why I'm not a famous model....

[Brood McEto]

Did anyone catch the Face with John Cleese last night on TLC? They showed two episodes, and I assume they are doing two more tonight. The first episode was about the mathmatical beauty, about how 1:1.618 is the 'golden ratio.' The width of the mouth is 1.618 and the nose is 1, for an example. This scientist doctor came up with this wire-frame mask on a transparancy that he puts over people's pictures. I did mine, and I'm not so symmetrical... My fiancée's was better, but her left eye was off just a bit. Check it out at TLC. It was pretty cool... The second episode wasn't so good. It talked about fame.

[Waverly]

I remember this article from an old Discover: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m15...80/print.jhtml. Looses something without the illustrations but still very good. The fact that men prefer ‘hyperfeminine’ traits is no surprise, but the finding that women prefer ‘feminized’ faces may be good news for Leonardo DiCaprio, but not so much for the more rugged looking Waverly.

[ThisYearsGirl]

I saw the first part of that faces special, and I thought it was going to be interesting, but it was just that "biology explains why it's okay to be shallow and why no one wants to have sex with you, Kristen" programs that TLC and the Discovery Channel play pretty regularly.

[invisibleOLDlady]

these shows upset me too, but its just the way it is. the healthier more pleasant a person is to look at, the higher their chances for procreation...i am pretty symmetrical (but my forehead is too small), however I'm very fat...oddly, that doesn't seem to stop idiots from hooting at me and making retarded kissy noises in my direction. why to men do that?

[Larry Mudd]

Originally posted by invisibleOLDlady
that doesn't seem to stop idiots from hooting at me and making retarded kissy noises in my direction. why to men do that?

My theory is that it's nature's way of ensuring that morons have their chances of polluting the gene pool reduced a bit.

[Nacho4Sara]

"biology explains why it's okay to be shallow and why no one wants to have sex with you, Kristen" programs that TLC and the Discovery Channel play pretty regularly.

Teehee. Good one. I felt the same way when I watched it (I only watched the first twenty minutes, though.)

Anyway, my face matches up, sort of. My eyes are a smidgen more wide-set than the picture, my cheeks are a little higher and wider, and my upper lip doesn't work because I have a slight overbite.

I always knew I had a great nose, though.

[rowrrbazzle]

The "golden ratio" stuff is a bit crankish. For example, it's hard to measure the height of your navel accurately to 3 significant figures, and the navel isn't a clearly defined point. Also, why is the mask so complicated? Maybe it's a bit like the epicycles that needed to be used with the pre-Copernican earth-centered cosmos. They were introduced because of the incorrect assumption that all heavenly motion was in circles, the perfect geometrical figure.

[ThisYearsGirl]

Originally posted by invisibleOLDlady
these shows upset me too, but its just the way it is. the healthier more pleasant a person is to look at, the higher their chances for procreation...i am pretty symmetrical (but my forehead is too small)

Hey! My forehead's too big!
Too bad you're a lady, or else we could get together and have kids with normal sized foreheads, and then they would grow up to get lots and lots of action.

[Brood McEto]

I'm sorry that no one actually watched the programs. There were four in all. The first one dealt with 'mathmatical beauty' the second dealt with fame. Both of these were on Sunday night.
Monday night was about face recognition and the second episode dealt with problems with faces and corrections thereof.
All in all I found these shows very informative, funny, and serious. I guess if I'd only watched 20min of the 4 hrs, I probably wouldn't have liked it, but I thought the whole series was great.

[rowrrbazzle]

Brood, I'm sorry you said that because you have made an unwarranted assumption. I made my previous post after seeing both programs on Sunday, and I have now seen all the programs.

Liz Hurley was a constant presence and I personally liked looking at her, but that kind of supports what ThisYearsGirl pointed out. And as I said, the use of the golden ratio caught my attention. When I see something like this, I take the rest with a grain of salt. I thought the series entertaining and moderately informative, but having those two noticeable blemishes.