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Old 11-14-2017, 10:11 PM
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Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

I probably should have just pitted him to begin with rather than continuing to engage him in this thread, which is classic Shagnasty bragging about how he goes on date after date with hot women, and...actually, I'm not entirely sure what the question in the OP was supposed to be. It seems like the bottom line is he's tired of the dating game and wants a relationship and is feeling a restlessness or an emptiness, is tired of rejecting or being ghosted by women, is weary of screening hundreds of profiles a day (hundreds? really?). Now, none of this on its own are necessarily bad ways to feel. All normal when it comes to someone in the dating game. But the root of the problem is that Shagnasty is a misogynist who sees women as nothing more than a pretty face and a vagina.

Don't believe me? Let's review.

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It is really hard for me to place a potential girlfriend. Let's face facts, the whole role is to screw, be pretty and responsible. I don't need anything else. Otherwise, she is just a drain on resources. I can be as sweet as they come but I am not running a charity. I have an ex-wife (with an emphasis on the ex) that is an executive vice-president for a large company. That type of thing isn't attractive to me. The money is good but they make poor partners.
Gee, I wonder why Shags finds a successful career woman to be a poor partner. Could it be because she is not content to simply be the pretty young thing hanging on his arm, a trophy for him to parade around town, and a porn star in the sack? That's it, guys. In Shagnasty land, that's all a woman can bring to a relationship. Also, there's no indication of what Shags brings to a partnership other than throwing money at them in hopes of getting laid. Very telling, that.


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The problem is that those types of offers come in daily. On Bumble just this week, I have communicated with two doctors, two lawyers and three corporate executives plus a metric shit-ton of other professionals. The number of beautiful, successful but lonely women out there is ridiculous. I think that is going to be my charity.
This isn't the only place in the thread where he refers to dating as "charity". Anyone have an idea yet why women may ghost this guy?

Talk in the thread turned to the infamous anecdote that Shags has told on the board several times, at least four that I could find, about how as a teenager he and his friend conspired to have Shags switch places with the (male) friend in the midst of the friend having sex with his girlfriend. My post here contains links to the four instances of the story being told on the board if you care to read it yourself. I'll also quote the story here:

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t was a Halloween prank rather than an April Fools prank but I was talked into something that I never thought would work in a million years and didn't really want it to. A friend enlisted me to switch places with him in the middle of a love-making session and then switch back again before his girlfriend even knew it. Everyone knows that is impossible....yet it worked perfectly because we had the same build, same type of hair, and same clothes on that night.

We just used an unusually dark room at another friend's house and subtle cues to stand up and quickly switch places between the bed and a closet. This wasn't some minor trick either. My part in the bed lasted about 20 minutes with not a single bit of detection on her part. Luckily for me, she was one her period and we didn't have actual intercourse. My semi-friend and I switched back perfectly at the end and she had no idea of any of it that night.

After that night, some people couldn't wait to spill the joke and I couldn't ever figure out if she believed in the joke or just the fact that others thought that it was an outrageous thing to say. She was a friend of mine and neither of us ever mentioned it at all ever. To this day, I have no idea about the motivation of her boyfriend. I just know that it was a perfect joke in the sense that, when I was in, I was committed to it even against my will. Every second made me feel the need to protect myself even more and, in the end, I pulled off something that ensured that at least for reasonable doubt.
I, along with most of the other players in the thread informed Shags that he committed sexual assault. One thing that stuck out to me as being especially disgusting was this line:

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Luckily for me, she was one her period and we didn't have actual intercourse.
Where do I even fucking start with this shit? Lucky for Shags she was on her period. Lucky for him. Not lucky for her that she narrowly missed being raped, lucky for him that he opted not to rape her because the consequences of sexual assault are terribly inconvenient. That line alone sums up Shagnasty's view of women quite succinctly. And as you can see if you click on the link to my post, he's so proud of this story he's posted it at least four times on this board over the years, a couple of times verbatim, which seems to indicate he may have it saved as a word file or something. Yeah.

When that's brought up in the thread, he ignores it for a bit, coming up with some more choice gems about women and dating:

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OTOH, I have a Nigerian coworker with absolutely no standards that peruses the back pages of Craigslist to hook up with welfare queens and chubbys. He loves it and god bless him for it but that is a charity I could never get behind. There really is a lid for every pot. I am much more William Sonoma than Wal-Mart.
What the fuck is this charity bullshit he keeps spouting?? Dating is not charity, you prick. Jesus fucking christ, this guy.


When he finally does respond to the discussion of his switcheroo story, he tries to make himself out to be the real victim:

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That is not very nice and I am listening. That infamous "rape" story? I was 17 years old and the only underage one. There was no sex involved. I was simply tricked into making out with someone and I was terrified the entire time. I never thought it would even get started and was mortified when it did and was just trying to figure out a way to get out of it.
That is not the story you told, bro. You rehearsed it with your buddy, you had a prearranged cue for when the switch was to happen, you hid in a closet and waited in order to do so. You planned it, practiced it, and executed it. Completely premeditated, and ample time for you to back out. But now that you're being called out on it (because for some reason that I can't quite comprehend, there was not much outrage generated when he told the story the past times, just a few raised eyebrows), you're suddenly the terrified victim of the story, so terrified you just had to crawl on top of a woman in the dark, without her knowledge, and do things to her that she did not consent to.

He defends himself by calling it a teenage prank and claiming he and the victim are still friends to this day. He misses the point completely. The girl in question may not even be aware it happened. It may not have had a profound effect on her life or even any at all. The point is that he committed a violation and he is either unable or unwilling to understand that.

He also expresses not understanding why that story follows him around the board and still gets brought up to this day. The fact that he's the one who's so proud of the story he's told it several times over the years seems to escape his attention. He does not express a single bit of regret or remorse. He wonders why the story "draws so much emotion". Yeah, people so crazy, having strong reactions to stories of assault told with pride and not a lick of regret. We're clearly the crazy ones here. Another choice gem:

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Let me repeat again, I was 17 years old and the underage one. I did not come up with the idea. I still have no idea why it happened and didn't expect it to ever work. She may have been in on it too. It was terrifying to me and certainly not pleasurable. You are making a one-sided argument. I was the underage person in question and didn't initiate anything. It was all her and I and was trying to figure out the entire time how to get of it. Again, I was a teenager and we are still friends. These sexual assault allegations have gotten out of control. Save your PC fury for the real ones.
That's pure class. He throws the female victim under the bus by insinuating that she may have been in on it the whole time because reasons. Then he chalks up the outrage to "PC fury".

To that I say, listen here, shitface: feel free to take your claims of PC fury, light them on fire, and shove them directly up your ass. This isn't one of those "grey" he said/she said cases. You got into bed with a woman, in the dark, and kissed her and touched her body without her knowledge and without her consent. That is sexual assault. And no rationalization you try to make will change that, you sick freak. Oh, here's another classic line:

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Listen, I have no idea why that story taps into people so deeply. It was just kissing and it was never my intention to do anything. I just thought it was a simple teenage joke that wasn't even my idea.

Women are weird when it comes to selective contact. All I did was kiss her (and vice versa). That is hardly the worst thing that can happen to someone. It is like claiming sexual assault by back rub.
Yeah, us women folk sure are weird when it comes to unwanted touching. Chicks are insane, you know.


There's been some people discussing in that thread that Shags may have some kind of personality disorder. I usually kind of roll my eyes at that because that's not an uncommon thing for people to suggest about an OP that's the subject of a trainwreck du jour but in this case, I think there might be something to it.


When a poster brought up the fact that there's not a statute of limitations for rape in the state where the incident Shags shared occurred, he posted a threatening comment to the said, but quickly edited it out - someone caught the edit, and he also sent the unedited version to another poster via PM, which I have copied below:

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There was no forcible rape involved and it is batshit insane to even imply such a thing. It was just kissing when I was a teenager. That is it. I also don't even know what state it was in. That may sound odd but I grew up in a border area where you can't tell where the Louisiana and Texas border are on rural roads and it was on one of those. I have no idea why so many women are fascinated by rape still read books like 50 Shades of Grey and then get outraged that two friends kissed each other decades ago.

Do not threaten me again. It will not end well for you.

This is where IMO he takes a turn to kind of scary. He claims he isn't dangerous because he is a professional who has children. Because no one who has committed any sort of dangerous crime has ever been a professional or been a parent. I mean, what? And read the line about 50 Shades of Grey - how much more fucked up can a person get? Women who enjoy reading erotic fiction aren't allowed to have strong feelings about sexual assault? Why, Shags? Because the bitches are asking for it? Because women are nothing more than pretty faces with pussies? You're a sick, twisted, misogynistic shithead and you deserve every minute of the emptiness and restlessness that you are experiencing. You will always experience it, because you don't know any other way, and I'm glad you will likely never experience a real, fulfilling, loving relationship, because you don't deserve it. You don't deserve to be peed on if you were lit on fire. You need professional help, but whether or not you ever pursue it, I really could not care less. You're a disgusting, horrible person.

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Old 11-14-2017, 10:33 PM
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You're assuming anything that he says has even the slightest basis in truth.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:38 PM
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I'm judging him by his posts which is all I can judge him by. Tis the nature of the internet.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:43 PM
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Great Pitting for a douchenozzle who couldn't deserve it more. I feel like he's always kinda gotten away with misogynistic and skeevy shit in other threads with little consequence and surprising amounts of defense. He pollutes the place with his bullshit, whether it's true or not.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:45 PM
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I have to give you credit for a pitting of great substance. All of that stuff is really, really problematic.

If Shag is interested, we can definitely have a conversation about the difference between BDSM, shitty novels like 50 Shades of Grey, rape fantasies, and sexual assault. The short answer: consent.

On a general note, this has been a really demoralizing week on the Dope. Is anyone else just really fucking tired of this shit?

2017, ya'll.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:52 PM
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My 'ew' moment was when he mentioned his little daughter was his perfect date! Creeped me the fuck out. Shades of Donald and Ivanka.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:53 PM
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I have to give you credit for a pitting of great substance. All of that stuff is really, really problematic.

If Shag is interested, we can definitely have a conversation about the difference between BDSM, shitty novels like 50 Shades of Grey, rape fantasies, and sexual assault. The short answer: consent.

On a general note, this has been a really demoralizing week on the Dope. Is anyone else just really fucking tired of this shit?

2017, ya'll.
Yeah, I pretty selectively read the Dope these days. Part of me wishes the thread that spawned this one wasn't one of the few that caught my attention. I felt like I needed a shower halfway through. I also strongly suspect that hypothetical conversation would be a waste of time.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:55 PM
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Great Pitting for a douchenozzle who couldn't deserve it more. I feel like he's always kinda gotten away with misogynistic and skeevy shit in other threads with little consequence and surprising amounts of defense. He pollutes the place with his bullshit, whether it's true or not.
Ditto. He has a nasty undertone in many of his posts and they just tend to slide by. Good for the OP in putting all this together to CITE why he's as described in the thread title.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:59 PM
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When a poster brought up the fact that there's not a statute of limitations for rape in the state where the incident Shags shared occurred, he posted a threatening comment to the said, but quickly edited it out - someone caught the edit, and he also sent the unedited version to another poster via PM, which I have copied below:
He's totally a disgusting, horrible person. And he's also sort of threatened me in a PM. I called bullshit on some story he told about his mom, so he sent me a PM telling me
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do not ever mention my family again as part of a causal [sic] slight. I will be forced to take it to the administrators of the board if it happens again
My days of not taking him seriously have, as the good captain says, come to a middle. The less I read of his repulsive humblebragging the better off I am.

And Spice Weasel, you've been doing yeoman's work explaining sexual violence to people lately, and I know I'm not the only one who appreciates it, and appreciates you and all you bring to this misbegotten place. Sorry the board's been so tainty lately; hope it gets better.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:21 PM
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Have fun. I am going into a relationship with a great person. I have two daughters that I adore more than anything, an ex-wife that still likes me and lots of female friends. I have some unconventional ideas but they aren't misogynist at all and I never raped anyone. I kissed an older friend when I was 17 and it may have even been her idea for all I know yet some people think that is the worst thing that can happen in the world. These accusations get ridiculous. Even if you are a woman, I have more female friends that you do and I treat them like gold. That is my reality and life.

Fire away. I am not going to respond because I don't respond to crazy but feel free to make to show all the outrage you want to for imagined crimes against women.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:23 PM
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And Spice Weasel, you've been doing yeoman's work explaining sexual violence to people lately, and I know I'm not the only one who appreciates it, and appreciates you and all you bring to this misbegotten place. Sorry the board's been so tainty lately; hope it gets better.
Believe me, the admiration is mutual.

I've actually handled Rape Week: Special Hollywood Edition better than I have handled rape weeks past. As gross as are some of the opinions and behaviors I've seen, the force of the pushback is growing. I see more people speaking up than ever before. It's galvanizing.

The only thing is...

I really, really need to finish that book by the end of the month. Which is, incidentally, heavily thematic on the difference between sexual assault and consensual kink. Maybe I should send a copy to Shag, and other people that seem to really confuse these things. I've seen some snarky comments around the web about how feminists must secretly harbor rape and submission fantasies, and what I want to tell them is that we have no need to keep such fantasies secret, because they in no way contradict with the ideals of gender equality and consent.

I'm not yet sure we've come that far as a society yet, though.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:26 PM
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There is a persistent underlying nastiness in so many of his posts. Ugh.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:29 PM
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Oh, I don't dispute that the online persona he's crafted is vile and repugnant, I just think that all of the things he boasts of happen solely in his head: for instance, he's been caught outright plagiarising sections from Wikipedia and attributing them to his allegedly famous mother. He's just a particularly repellent sub-species of the Common Internet Bullshit Artist.

eta

of course, he was the victim there too.

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Old 11-14-2017, 11:42 PM
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Guys, he has more female friends than we do. That must be a lot or something. I guess he's ok after all!
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:54 PM
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And Spice Weasel, you've been doing yeoman's work explaining sexual violence to people lately, and I know I'm not the only one who appreciates it, and appreciates you and all you bring to this misbegotten place. Sorry the board's been so tainty lately; hope it gets better.
^^^^ What he said. Thank you Spice Weasel
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:55 PM
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He's totally a disgusting, horrible person. And he's also sort of threatened me in a PM. I called bullshit on some story he told about his mom, so he sent me a PM telling me
I hope you forwarded it to the mods. The way he speaks about how he'll "get a person back, even if it takes years", if they somehow wronged him, really creeps me the fuck out. That's not normal.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:55 PM
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But seriously, he's either the kind of shitbird that has crafted an online persona of what he believes is a perfectly normal, yet bitchin' life, but everything he knows about life he learned from porn and video games from his/his mom's basement OR he is the kind of shitbird who truly believes and has done the ridiculous shit he writes about. I'm not sure which of those possibilities makes him more pathetic.

He's going into a "relationship" with a great person, you guys. He just said so! Now, let me guess, Shaggy...she's an "heiress." Or maybe a model? How about a 17-year-old girl with amazing tits because women your own age make you throw up a little in your mouth. Ooh, bet she's RICH! Really, it doesn't matter because he's just some fatass jerking off to people reading his poor excuse for "bragging."

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Old 11-14-2017, 11:56 PM
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I feel like mocking Shagnasty's family even though I have no strong opinion of them or him.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:57 PM
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He also claimed that other boys at his high school had massive public group jerk-offs in the locker room; nobody else on this board, male or female, could ever recall anything like that happening at their schools, which put the story's veracity into doubt.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:02 AM
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Have fun. I am going into a relationship with a great person. I have two daughters that I adore more than anything, an ex-wife that still likes me and lots of female friends. I have some unconventional ideas but they aren't misogynist at all and I never raped anyone. I kissed an older friend when I was 17 and it may have even been her idea for all I know yet some people think that is the worst thing that can happen in the world. These accusations get ridiculous. Even if you are a woman, I have more female friends that you do and I treat them like gold. That is my reality and life.

Fire away. I am not going to respond because I don't respond to crazy but feel free to make to show all the outrage you want to for imagined crimes against women.
Eat shit, you syphilis encrusted boil.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:05 AM
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He also claimed that other boys at his high school had massive public group jerk-offs in the locker room; nobody else on this board, male or female, could ever recall anything like that happening at their schools, which put the story's veracity into doubt.
My high school burned down my senior year due to arson. It was an unusual area to begin with but that sent it into Lord Of The Flies territory. I didn't really participate but I stand by the story just like all of them because they are true. It really happened. Lots of things really strange things happened in rural Louisiana that other people refuse to believe. My aunt and I talk about that sometimes because she lives in Colorado now. People look at her like she has two heads when she mentions her upbringing.

Sometimes I feel like Rose from the Golden Girls with her Saint Olaf stories. I didn't know anything was wrong at the time. It was just where we lived and were raised. I was one of the successful ones.

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Old 11-15-2017, 12:07 AM
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I vomitted alittle in my mouth just now!
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:23 AM
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I do wish he would expand on how he would react top one of his daughters being deceived into a hot and heavy make out session without her consent . in the previous thread he said he would have to hear what really happened. As i pointed out, in this hypothetical, he knows, intimately, what happened. He knows exactly what cues were used to initiate the switch, exactly how far they went, and how their mutual friends laughed about it to her face.

Would he still break out the shovel?

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Old 11-15-2017, 12:25 AM
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He also claimed that other boys at his high school had massive public group jerk-offs in the locker room; nobody else on this board, male or female, could ever recall anything like that happening at their schools, which put the story's veracity into doubt.
Oh, but it did happen, and he can prove it by repeating it over and over again. Not only that, he has two daughters that adore him, so why would he lie?

Still don't believe him? Well, he grew up a poor black child in Louisiana whose mother is a world famous lecturer, so who knows better than him that circle jerks are for reals?

If you still doubt him, he'll be happy to take you out to dinner to show you that he's a fun-loving man about town who knows how to treat women. How do you think he became such a sophisticated gentleman without experiencing real life circle jerks in school?

Just ask him.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:28 AM
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Fire away. I am not going to respond because I don't respond to crazy but feel free to make to show all the outrage you want to for imagined crimes against women.
He’s already been back once. Shall we take bets on how many more times he’ll respond?
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:30 AM
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My high school burned down my senior year due to arson. It was an unusual area to begin with but that sent it into Lord Of The Flies territory. I didn't really participate but I stand by the story just like all of them because they are true. It really happened. Lots of things really strange things happened in rural Louisiana that other people refuse to believe. My aunt and I talk about that sometimes because she lives in Colorado now. People look at her like she has two heads when she mentions her upbringing.

Sometimes I feel like Rose from the Golden Girls with her Saint Olaf stories. I didn't know anything was wrong at the time. It was just where we lived and were raised. I was one of the successful ones.
See what I mean? Of course his circle jerk story is true, because he has an aunt in Colorado who tells goofy stories that cause people to shake their heads in disbelief.

How can you not believe him???!!
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:40 AM
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I do wish he would expand on how he would react top one of his daughters being deceived into a hot and heavy make out session without her consent . in the previous thread he said he would have to hear what really happened. As i pointed out, in this hypothetical, he knows, intimately, what happened. He knows exactly what cues were used to initiate the switch, exactly how far they went, and how their mutual friends laughed about it to her face.
As I have explained before, I honestly don't know what happened or why. I thought I was just doing a simple prank but it turned into something else that I had to figure out how to get out of. It wasn't fun and I may never know the reason. It was only kissing and I was shocked that it worked unless she was in on it.

The irony is that a much older woman hounded me at work around the same time until I went to her house and she got me drunk so that she could make out with me when I was barely conscious on her couch but nobody cares about that. I wasn't exactly complaining at the time but at 17 (me) and 23 (her) aren't good matches except for sexual exploitation. She even made out with me right after I threw up in her bathroom and I didn't initiate anything. I was lucky I could even make it home. I am still friends with her as well. There was no real harm done.

Good luck getting any SJW on the SDMB admitting there is anything wrong with that.

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Old 11-15-2017, 12:53 AM
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As I have explained before, I honestly don't know what happened or why. I thought I was just doing a simple prank but it turned into something else that I had to figure out how to get out of. It wasn't fun and I may never know the reason. It was only kissing and I was shocked that it worked unless she was in on it.

The irony is that a much older woman hounded me at work around the same time until I went to her house and she got me drunk so that she could make out with me when I was barely conscious on her couch but nobody cares about that. I wasn't exactly complaining at the time but at 17 (me) and 23 (her) aren't good matches except for sexual exploitation. She even made out with me right after I threw up in her bathroom and I didn't initiate anything. I was lucky I could even make it home. I am still friends with her as well. There was no real harm done.

Good luck getting any SJW on the SDMB admitting there is anything wrong with that.

I do think there was something wrong with that, but completely beside the point. You know, from his perspective, every last detail that he would know. How you would react to the girl in question being your daughter?

Seriously. You keep saying things like you'd have to hear his side - and you already know it. What's your reaction?
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:55 AM
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Shag, reminds me of Mr. Frisby from the Twilight Zone. Here (Remember the guy with a penchant for telling tall tales that was abducted by aliens?)

Only except Shag is excessively more vile.

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Old 11-15-2017, 01:02 AM
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I do think there was something wrong with that, but completely beside the point. You know, from his perspective, every last detail that he would know. How you would react to the girl in question being your daughter?

Seriously. You keep saying things like you'd have to hear his side - and you already know it. What's your reaction?
You keep deflecting to some other anecdote. I am asking you directly to simply concentrate on the scenario whether the girl is your daughter, yet everything else remains exactly the same as you know it.

As the loving father of two daughters, and a divorced man who still had a good relationship with his ex, and a professional, and all the other stuff that makes you a good guy-

What is your reaction?
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Old 11-15-2017, 01:06 AM
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Shag, reminds me of Mr. Frisby from the Twilight Zone. Here (Remember the guy with a penchant for telling tall tales that was abducted by aliens?)

Only except Shag is excessively more vile.
This. I've never understood why people believe that ridiculous switcheroo story. It never happened. It couldn't happen because human beings don't work that way.

But, as Grrr! points out, the vileness of it is in how Shags thinks it's a "cool story."
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Old 11-15-2017, 01:23 AM
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He’s already been back once. Shall we take bets on how many more times he’ll respond?
He's clicking Reload like a motherfucker. Probably with one hand.

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Old 11-15-2017, 03:17 AM
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Have fun. I am going into a relationship with a great person. I have two daughters that I adore more than anything, an ex-wife that still likes me and lots of female friends. I have some unconventional ideas but they aren't misogynist at all and I never raped anyone. I kissed an older friend when I was 17 and it may have even been her idea for all I know yet some people think that is the worst thing that can happen in the world. These accusations get ridiculous. Even if you are a woman, I have more female friends that you do and I treat them like gold. That is my reality and life.

Fire away. I am not going to respond because I don't respond to crazy but feel free to make to show all the outrage you want to for imagined crimes against women.
President Trump, is that you?
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Old 11-15-2017, 05:38 AM
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As I have explained before, I honestly don't know what happened or why. I thought I was just doing a simple prank but it turned into something else that I had to figure out how to get out of. It wasn't fun and I may never know the reason. It was only kissing and I was shocked that it worked unless she was in on it.
Shags, you violated her consent, most likely. You didn't rape her (which appears to be lucky -- had she not been on her period, perhaps you would have), but you violated her consent. That's a very bad thing to do.

Here's how, in my mind, a decent person would respond:

"I recognize now that I violated her consent. I didn't realize it at the time, because I was a dumb teenager. But I recognize it now. Violating someone's consent, even just for kissing, is wrong, and I strongly regret it. I will teach my daughters to recognize violations of consent, even for things like kissing, so they have the tools to recognize predatory behavior."

Something like that, in my mind.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:18 AM
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Folks, he has made it exceptionally clear multiple times that he wants to bang his 12 year old daughter. Not the older daughter ‘cause even though she’s also objectively attractive she isn’t very bright or motivated, but the gymnast chess-playing French-speaking perfect specimen he created with his borderline personality disordered ex-wife.

You are not going to get him to admit he’s either misogynistic or a perpetrator of sexual assault.

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Old 11-15-2017, 06:45 AM
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I hope you forwarded it to the mods. The way he speaks about how he'll "get a person back, even if it takes years", if they somehow wronged him, really creeps me the fuck out. That's not normal.
Definitely didn't forward it. I don't take him seriously; I think about 2/3 of what he says is a lie, and the other third is just pitiful. Notice how often he reminds us of "facts" like how much his daughters love him, or how well he treats women? That's 100% not what someone does whose daughters love him or who is respectful to women.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:57 AM
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As the loving father of two daughters, and a divorced man who still had a good relationship with his ex, and a professional, and all the other stuff that makes you a good guy-
... who helps other people cheat on their spouses.


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OTOH, I have friends constantly telling me stories that don't sound that much different than slavery and some of them cheat whenever they think they can get away with it. I even help them with that sometimes both male and female.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:06 AM
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And Spice Weasel, you've been doing yeoman's work explaining sexual violence to people lately, and I know I'm not the only one who appreciates it, and appreciates you and all you bring to this misbegotten place. Sorry the board's been so tainty lately; hope it gets better.
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^^^^ What he said. Thank you Spice Weasel
Another thank you to Spice Weasel. Keep up the good work. The Shagnastys are losing.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:17 AM
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Even if you are a woman, I have more female friends that you do and I treat them like gold.
Locked in a vault, or melted down in a smelting crucible?
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:17 AM
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Eat shit, you syphilis encrusted boil.
+1

and an excellent pitting OP, Expectopatronum, I'm glad someone was willing to do the dirty work.

in the future, no need to respond to him at all - just link to this thread for anyone who doesn't know what he is about.

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HA!

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Old 11-15-2017, 09:36 AM
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There are pranks that are funny, and pranks that are mean. Funny is handing someone a can of peanut brittle and a spring snake pops out, the prankee gasps, and everyone laughs. Mean ones are where only the pranksters laugh. Jumping out in a dark garage in a clown suit with a chainsaw causing genuine terror. Haw, haw.

What Shag did was mean. Why? Because two people the girl trusted, her friend Shagnasty, and her boyfriend, conspired together do something to trick her. To what end? So they could laugh at her later, and tell all their friends so they could laugh and belittle her too? Maybe toss in a little slut shaming, too? Betrayal of trust is such a powerful blow to one's sense of self. That there was also a sexual and intimate component to their prank, just takes it to another level of meanness and betrayal.

Yup, just a harmless prank. Hyuck, hyuck. Poor Shag's a victim, too, because he didn't really enjoy the part he played in this odious little scenario.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:58 AM
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Have fun...Fire away. I am not going to respond ...
Of course you will. You can't help yourself. Because you have a pathological need for attention and drama. You lack self control. You will also continue to engage in self-destructive behavior. No matter what you tell yourself, you can't keep it from hurting everyone around you.

Continuing this pattern of delusional thought and behavior makes you poison, Shagnasty.

None of this ends well for you, or anyone in your circle of influence.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:01 AM
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Bullshit that Shag didn’t enjoy it. Is that why he spent 20 frikkin’ minutes kissing and molesting her?
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:25 AM
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As I have explained before, I honestly don't know what happened or why. I thought I was just doing a simple prank but it turned into something else that I had to figure out how to get out of. It wasn't fun and I may never know the reason. It was only kissing and I was shocked that it worked unless she was in on it.
I don't know if kissing without consent counts as sexual assault (I would guess so, not interested in finding out), but making out without consent absolutely does. You can't consent to sex or make out with a person if you don't know who that person is.

I'm as far from an SJW as you can get, but I don't get how this isn't obvious. Have you ever heard "rape by deception?"

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:25 AM
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And the thing is, you'd never guess from his username!
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:34 AM
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My high school burned down my senior year due to arson. It was an unusual area to begin with but that sent it into Lord Of The Flies territory. I didn't really participate but I stand by the story just like all of them because they are true. It really happened. Lots of things really strange things happened in rural Louisiana that other people refuse to believe.
I was curious to see if there was an article about a rural Louisiana school getting torched in Google somewhere, and one of the search results pointed to this book, With Extreme Pleasure. It looks like some kind of romance novel you see in grocery stores to fill out the fiction shelf. The handsome yet damaged rogue mentions a trifecta he had with an older woman that happened twenty years ago in rural Louisiana, and then his house burned down. "And fiction doesn't hold a candle to the truth." That phrase at least sounds more believable than "It really happened!"

I otherwise couldn't find any relevant news articles, except for a school arson that happened this year. I'm assuming Shag didn't graduate in 2017.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:42 AM
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Didn't our pittee also claim that he, uh, did it for like 7 hours or something? Not 7 hours of foreplay, etc., but hours and hours of the actual in-and-out part.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:42 AM
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I was curious to see if there was an article about a rural Louisiana school getting torched in Google somewhere, and one of the search results pointed to this book, With Extreme Pleasure. It looks like some kind of romance novel you see in grocery stores to fill out the fiction shelf. The handsome yet damaged rogue mentions a trifecta he had with an older woman that happened twenty years ago in rural Louisiana, and then his house burned down. "And fiction doesn't hold a candle to the truth." That phrase at least sounds more believable than "It really happened!"

I otherwise couldn't find any relevant news articles, except for a school arson that happened this year. I'm assuming Shag didn't graduate in 2017.
If my MN rural HS had burned down my senior year (1977), you likely wouldn't find anything online about it. All knowledge being online is a pretty recent phenomenon, and a lot of old newspapers aren't being archived online anywhere.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:57 AM
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If my MN rural HS had burned down my senior year (1977), you likely wouldn't find anything online about it. All knowledge being online is a pretty recent phenomenon, and a lot of old newspapers aren't being archived online anywhere.
True. But, like myself, Shagnasty is 44. Which puts his senior year in 1991 (assuming a normal HS trajectory). Pretty close to the dawn of the internet. Chances are good there's something.

Also, like myself, he's white, has kids, and has an ex. I'm a good father, successful in my career and help out the elderly whenever I can... blah blah blargh. Yet, I've managed not to ever sexually abuse anybody or do anything without their consent. Even when I was 17. Maybe—just maybe—all those things mean nothing when it comes to the fucked up shit people are still capable of.

Shagnasty, just because you do good things in some areas doesn't mean you do good things in all areas. Guh doy. And you do realize you're changing your story with each iteration, on a message board. This shit is written down. By yourself. Wake up, dood. You're an awful, lying, narcissistic human being.

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Old 11-15-2017, 11:03 AM
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[QUOTE=Shagnasty;20602623]As I have explained before, I honestly don't know what happened or why. I thought I was just doing a simple prank but it turned into something else that I had to figure out how to get out of. It wasn't fun and I may never know the reason. It was only kissing and I was shocked that it worked unless she was in on it.

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Since you are such good friends with her still why don't you ask her if she was in on it? If she was in on it as you surmise, you will have confirmation that it was a prank on YOU. If not then she probably won't speak to you again but hey no big loss as she isn't in your "preferred" demographic anyway.
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