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Old 09-20-2001, 11:06 AM
smichaeld smichaeld is offline
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Anyone have any insight into the theory that David (David & Goliath) and Jonathan (King Saul's son) were gay lovers?

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Old 09-20-2001, 11:26 AM
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Insight: It's completely false. A notion that modern gay activists have hatched in order to make people think that their position might be biblically justified. They base it on statements regarding David & Jonathan's friendship that have no connotation of sexuality.

I Kings 15:5 says "For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not failed to keep any of the LORD's commands all the days of his life--except in the case of Uriah the Hittite." Considering what the Bible says about homosexuality, I dare say it wouldn't say this if David & Jonathan had been gay lovers.
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Old 09-20-2001, 11:26 AM
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The tone in your thread title will, most likely, keep people from responding. In case anybody does want to respond, can you maybe fill in some details? Got a link or anything?
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Old 09-20-2001, 12:33 PM
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The Bible clearly states that David and Jonathan love each other, to the point of risking their life, each for the other. I guess it's the question of whether "brotherly love" is possible, or whether all love must have a sexual connotation. I suspect that most readers accept that brotherly love is possible without sex.

The language of the book of Samuel is ancient Hebrew, which does not have the richness of vocabulary or the fine-line distinctions of modern English. Thus, multiple interpretations are possible, and twisting words around to imply sexual relations is always a fun game.
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