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Old 01-12-2018, 03:57 PM
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Melodramatic, over-the-top songs.

What got me thinking about this type of song was finding out the song in that (not) parody perfume commercial is Sia's Chandelier. In my opinion the Grandmother of this type of pop song is Jennifer Holiday/Hudson And I' Am Telling You, and epitome is Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You.

I feel Celine Dion should have a song here. I have a clear vision of her beating her chest with her fist and then dramatically flinging her arm skyward-- a standard move when singing this type of song, only I can't think of the particular song this comes from. Also, I can't, off the top of my head, think of any men who belong here.

Also, let it be known I love these types of songs. I sing them very loudly in the shower and really appreciate the vocal tour de force these ladies put on.
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Oh wait! I thought of a man over-the-top melodramatic song. Harry Nilsson's Without You.
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"Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler is certainly up there as one of the most bombastic songs ever written, not to mention performed -- and accompanied by one of the most over-the-top videos of all time as well.

Sample lyric: "We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks."

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"total eclipse of the heart" by bonnie tyler is certainly up there as one of the most bombastic songs ever written, not to mention performed -- and accompanied by one of the most over-the-top videos of all time as well.

Sample lyric: "we're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks."
i really ned you tonight!!!!

ETA:Tried all caps forgetting we are not allowed to scream in such a fashion her on the SDMB.

Another edit to say-- wow, that filter takes away ALL the capital words!

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Two great parodies by Flight of The Conchords:

Sellotape

I'm Not Cryin'
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:24 PM
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What about Europe's The Final Countdown?
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:29 PM
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What about Europe's The Final Countdown?
But there are no heartfelt tears or chest beating. No overarching personal drama. i think if we're to get a group song on here it may be something by Journey. Or even better, Air Supply. How 'bout Out Of Nothing At All.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:35 PM
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You're all going to hate me for this...
MacArthur Park.

To make up for it.
Literal Video Version of Total Eclipse Of The Heart
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:39 PM
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I feel Celine Dion should have a song here. I have a clear vision of her beating her chest with her fist and then dramatically flinging her arm skyward-- a standard move when singing this type of song, only I can't think of the particular song this comes from. Also, I can't, off the top of my head, think of any men who belong here.
That was My Heart Will Go On, from Titanic. But not from the movie video. She later did a live video, with a young Asian girl violinist. Celine became incredibly weepy, and over invested in the performance.
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Meatloaf: I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)
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We could pretty much list every song Jim Steinman's done and call it day for this thread.

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Two great parodies by Flight of The Conchords:

Sellotape

I'm Not Cryin'
Along the same lines, here's "Weird Al" Yankovic's "Stop Forwarding That Crap to Me".
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You're all going to hate me for this...
MacArthur Park.
This gets extra points for being so over-dramatic while making as little sense as possible. This song also proves how better women are at this type of thing.



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That was My Heart Will Go On, from Titanic. But not from the movie video. She later did a live video, with a young Asian girl violinist. Celine became incredibly weepy, and over invested in the performance.
I can't think of this song without thinking of the SNL skit of the goth high schoolers with their dark song: Near. . . Far. . .. Does anyone else remember this skit. It may or may not have featured Buck Henry.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:01 PM
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Two great parodies by Flight of The Conchords:

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I'm Not Cryin'
This also reminds me of an old, old SNL skit. This one with Dana Carvey Choppin' Broccoli!
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Meatloaf: I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)
It pales in comparison to "Paradise By The Dashboard Light".
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:28 PM
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i think if we're to get a group song on here it may be something by Journey.
That would be Separate Ways.

For really over-the-top, you want heavy metal. Especially thrash, death metal, and black metal.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with it know any good examples. All I could think of was Hall of the Mountain King by Savatage.
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Oh, the menfolk can do melodrama. It's a common theme among heavy rockers attempting to do ballads.

I present the lyrics of Papa Roach's "Scars" which are a running gag in this household.

I tear my heart open
I sew myself shut
My weakness is
That I care too much
Our scars remind us that the past is real
I tear my heart open
Just to feel

YouTube link, for max angst appreciation:

https://youtu.be/eHbNU9WuVgw

So many 90s alternative songs apply here, including good ones. I always thought this one by Staind was both good, and ridiculous:

https://youtu.be/mVQpfoqsY8Q
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:39 PM
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I agree about Steinman, but you really have to look at his work as the show tunes they are (whether or not they actually go with a real show or musical). Take a look at popular songs from Jesus Christ Superstar, Hair, Phantom, Les Miserables, and so forth. They're all pretty darn bombastic. It's the nature of the beast.

TEotH really does carry the blue ribbon, though.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:42 PM
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In my opinion the Grandmother of this type of pop song is Jennifer Holiday/Hudson And I' Am Telling You,...
Well, in all fairness, that song is from a musical (Dreamgirls), it's not a pop song. So by nature it's supposed to be somewhat dramatic, and brings the house down when it's live on stage.

But yes, when I saw the thread title my first instinct was anything by Jim Steinman.
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Morris Albert's Feelings was way overplayed in the day, but it fits this category. I hope to never hear it again.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:43 PM
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A lot of 70s and 80s Styx would fall into this category, I think. Songs like "Lady," "The Grand Illusion," and "The Best of Times" seem to fit the requirement of "beating one's chest with a fist and then dramatically flinging an arm skyward."
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Never mind, it's not that good.

Every teen in the 90s was hopelessly misunderstood and nobody had ever felt that way before. I love 90s music but I have to cop to our legacy as the most melodramatic generation.
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Also, because we're talking about Steinman and musical theatre, people might not know that he did use "Total Eclipse of the Heart" in a musical. It's called Dance of the Vampires, and it tanked on Broadway. According to him, he wrote it years ago as a "vampire love song", and stuck it in the show when he ran out of time to write the score:

"[For the original production] in Vienna, I had only a month and a half to write this whole show and we needed a big love duet... But with Total Eclipse of the Heart, I was trying to come up with a love song and I remembered I actually wrote that to be a vampire love song. Its original title was Vampires in Love because I was working on a musical of Nosferatu, the other great vampire story. If anyone listens to the lyrics, they're really like vampire lines. It's all about the darkness, the power of darkness and love's place in dark. And so I figured 'Who's ever going to know; it's Vienna!' And then it was just hard to take it out."
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Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the U.S.A."?
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"Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler is certainly up there as one of the most bombastic songs ever written, not to mention performed
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We could pretty much list every song Jim Steinman's done and call it day for this thread.
His album Bad For Good, Meat Loaf's albums, and Bonnie Tyler's albums all make up the core of my playlist called "Fantastic Bombastic". It is my favorite musical subgenre.

Honorable mentions: "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" and "Tonight is What It Means to be Young".

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Old 01-12-2018, 05:54 PM
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To write one of these songs, you simply follow this formula
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Also, I can't, off the top of my head, think of any men who belong here.
Oh, that's an easy one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKqMNDoR4o

George Michael and Elton John doing "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me"
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Morris Albert's Feelings was way overplayed in the day, but it fits this category. I hope to never hear it again.
I always point to this song when this topic comes up in my world, so I'll contribute any other sappy 70s "message" songs, including, but not limited to, Sometimes When We Touch,, by Dan Hill (for some reason, I wanted to write "Dan Wheldon", but that's not right. And RIP Mr. Wheldon).

Another is All by Myself by Eric Carmen.

I could also include Debby Boone, and....and....and....
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Oh, God yes.
B-but at least he knows he's free!
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OMG, look what I found! A 12 year old Dana Carvey!. I remember the SNL skit version of this song really getting into the "chopping broccoli! chopping broccoli. CHOPPING BroCColi!!!!!" part.

P.S. Do you think this was a Carvey audition video?
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It's not the song, it's the singer.

Just to be clear, consider Dolly Parton's original version of I Will Always Love You.
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Would Bobby Vinton's Dick and Jane qualify? It's more understated than most of these, but it makes up for it in emotional manipulation.
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Wind Beneath My Wings, Bette Midler
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Angel of the Morning, Juice Newton
I Can't Make You Love Me, Bonnie Raitt

Trying to decide if Elton John, Candle in the Wind (either version) would count.
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Wind Beneath My Wings, Bette Midler
I was going to post The Rose but hearing it again made me realize it was its placement in the movie that made it seem overly dramatic. Wind Beneath My Wings is a much better example.
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Anything by Michael "Suck the Soul Outta This Song" Bolton, especially, "How am I Supposed to Live Without You," which was barely tolerable from the late Laura Brannigan.
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Debby Boone-- "You Light Up My Life"
Michael Bolton--well, anything, really, but "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You"

And it's going back a long, long way, but you can't beat Gene Pitney's "I'm Gonna Be Strong" for over-the-top, chest-beating vocals. Great voice, though.
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Oops! Biggirl beat me to it on Bolton.
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Current example: Kesha's Praying. And I actually LIKE Kesha and I totally understand why she'd write that song, but ... put it side by side with, say 'Fighter' and there's a pretty clear melodrama-winner
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Current example: Kesha's Praying. And I actually LIKE Kesha and I totally understand why she'd write that song, but ... put it side by side with, say 'Fighter' and there's a pretty clear melodrama-winner
Wow! This is going on my Fantastic Bombastic playlist (thanks, gigi).
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And no one's mentioned Emerson Lake and Palmer yet?

Or the Nice?

Keith Emerson did bombast whenever he sat down the play.
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"Sometimes When We Touch" by Dan Hill, who emotes the song like he's getting a prostate exam from a proctologist with a hook for a hand (HT to Dave Barry).
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For some reason this old C-Pop song popped into my head.
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Jar of Hearts by Christina Perry
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Billy Joel has got a few of these: "This is the Time", "Goodnight Saigon", "Honesty".
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If you Go Away by almost anyone - Scott Walker, Shirley Bassey, Marc Almond...
Or here he is again singing one called Just Good Friends
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Bobby Goldsboro's Honey.

Just a little over-the-top, methinks.
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eta:tried all caps forgetting we are not allowed to scream in such a fashion her on the sdmb.

Another edit to say-- wow, that filter takes away all the capital words!
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