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Old 02-06-2019, 09:17 PM
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Best cities in the US for pizza

I hear a lot of bragging among cities about the best pizza: New York pizza, Chicago deep dish, St Louis thin crust, Detroit pizza.

I've read online magazines and it seems like cities that keep popping up over and over again are:

1. Chicago
2. New York
3. New Haven

Honorable mention:
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Washington, DC
Detroit

I can vouch for DC - best pizza I ever had came from some joint my parents and I went to back in the 1980s when I was a teenager (somewhere in NW). Las Vegas is pretty much good at anything, just pick a good hotel/casino, so I don't question Vegas being included. Ironically, never eaten pizza in Chicago. I've eaten bratwurst and tuna on rye - among the best in both categories. Had some great corn beef hash there as well. But never pizza, ironically.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:24 PM
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I'd go with New York. I've never actually eaten pizza there, but I've had plenty of NY style pizza in Florida that was made by transplanted NYers.

I've eaten at Geno's East in Chicago, and I'm just not a fan of deep dish at all.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:34 PM
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Well, Chicago is not all about deep dish, not even close. It's just our most famous pizza. I personally think the range of pizzas you can get here is pretty fantastic, but I'm partisan.

I haven't been to New Haven yet, and that is bucket list for me. I have a feeling that is a pizza that will win my heart.

Otherwise, places I've been where I seek out the local pizza (and this is going to be an idiosyncratic list):

New York/New Jersey
Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Detroit
Quad Cities (Illinois/Iowa)
Phoenix (I know; I was surprised as well, but, when it's on, the Pizza Rosa at Pizzeria Bianco is my favorite pizza in America. But there's a number of great places there, like Pomo and CIBO, and they have a good variety of styles, as well, from Neapolitan to New York to deep dish to Chicago thin crust.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:54 PM
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For many years Portland, Oregon had horrible pizza. but there are now two incredible pizza places: Apizza Scholls with NY-style pizza and Ken's Artisan Pizza with Neapolitan-style, wood oven baked pizza. They are both as good as any place I've eaten outside Italy. But there is not a pizza culture like NYC or Boston.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:59 PM
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Well, Chicago is not all about deep dish, not even close. It's just our most famous pizza. I personally think the range of pizzas you can get here is pretty fantastic, but I'm partisan.

I haven't been to New Haven yet, and that is bucket list for me. I have a feeling that is a pizza that will win my heart.

Otherwise, places I've been where I seek out the local pizza (and this is going to be an idiosyncratic list):

New York/New Jersey
Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Detroit
Quad Cities (Illinois/Iowa)
Phoenix (I know; I was surprised as well, but, when it's on, the Pizza Rosa at Pizzeria Bianco is my favorite pizza in America. But there's a number of great places there, like Pomo and CIBO, and they have a good variety of styles, as well, from Neapolitan to New York to deep dish to Chicago thin crust.
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Innersting you mention NJ because the old Philadelphia mob used to have guys that lived in Cherry Hill if I recall correctly (and Phila mafia, please don't track my IP and whack me for outing you if you're reading this). I'd imagine metro Philadelphia has a lot of good pizzerias and yet I can't recall ever eating pizza in Phila despite many visits and months in that place. Seafood? Hoagies (nothing like a cold hoagie in summer)? Hillary's ice cream? Geno's cheese steaks? Yep. But no pizza.

Phoenix doesn't surprise me. It's got a great food scene from what I'm told, and a lot of energy. Shit, if Californians can make a good pizza kitchen, why can't PHX?

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New Haven!

Detroit!

St. Louis (I've been to The Hill but never had pizza)

Chicago
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:00 PM
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For many years Portland, Oregon had horrible pizza. but there are now two incredible pizza places: Apizza Scholls with NY-style pizza and Ken's Artisan Pizza with Neapolitan-style, wood oven baked pizza. They are both as good as any place I've eaten outside Italy. But there is not a pizza culture like NYC or Boston.
Portland's a great foodie scene par excellence! Obviously the beer's great, but Portland has world class food, ranging from Indian to Japanese to Korean to Chinese to...pretty much anything.
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For many years Portland, Oregon had horrible pizza. but there are now two incredible pizza places: Apizza Scholls with NY-style pizza and Ken's Artisan Pizza with Neapolitan-style, wood oven baked pizza. They are both as good as any place I've eaten outside Italy. But there is not a pizza culture like NYC or Boston.
That a pizzeria in Portland, Oregon calls itself "Apizza Scholls" is an indication that they are familiar with New Haven-style pizza. From the FAQ page on their website, "We were often compared to the Pizzerias in New Haven, CT by many of our regulars. Many of those pizzerias have Apizza in their name."

There are three pizzerias in New Haven that are really well-known. Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana was founded in 1925 and is the oldest and best-known. Their signature pie is a white clam pizza. For a long time, there was only the Wooster Square location but in recent years, Frank Pepe's grandchildren have opened additional locations elsewhere in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York and Rhode Island. Sally's Apizza is also highly regarded, and was founded in 1938 by Frank Pepe's cousin. A standard question is whether you think Pepe's or Sally's is better. Personally, I think Modern Apizza (founded in 1934) is best. And there are other pizzerias in and around New Haven that are also really good.
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Ok, tricky question. I have had great pizza at specific places in cities you'd not associate with great pizza. Hound dogs pizza in Columbus for instance. Or a place in suburban Pittsburgh (bridgeville) that I sadly forgot the name of. Hell, even Gusano's here in ft. Smith Arkansas is pretty good. But as a city on the whole, I'm not sure I'd say any of those three cities. LA certainly had lots of great places but also lots of crap. I think that just comes from being a large city.
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Philadelphia
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Washington, DC
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Las Vegas is pretty much good at anything, just pick a good hotel/casino, so I don't question Vegas being included.
Las Vegas should not be on that list. Finding a decent pizza in this town is way more difficult than it should be. NO, a $50 pie at a casino is NOT "a decent pizza"; it's a ridiculous thing that we laugh at tourists for buying, even as we thank them for our spiffy roads.

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The original Green Mill on Grand Avenue in St Paul, MN, served the very best deep-dish pizza I've ever had.

In Denver, CO, there was a great place called Canino's, but that was even longer ago. I'd like to think they're still there.
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New York for me - which extends to Long Island, Northern NJ, etc. - I grew up there, so perhaps I'm biased.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I've heard the Chicago "Deep Dish" thing is mostly for tourists, and that locals don't eat it much.
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I don't have a dog in the fight, but I've heard the Chicago "Deep Dish" thing is mostly for tourists, and that locals don't eat it much.
That is and isn't true. We definitely eat deep dish here, but, at least in my experience, it tends to be "special occasion" pizza. If you pop into Uno's/Due's, or a Geno's or Malnati's, the bulk of people there will most likely be local denizens, but they may not be a regularly recurring crowd. I grew up in the city proper, and I didn't have a proper deep dish until I was in my teens. We have our own style of thin crust that is your typical party pizza or shit-I-don't-feel-like-cooking-tonight pizza. That's the pizza I'm used to here as the day-to-day pizza. When I go over to a friend's house for a party and they say they're going to have pizza, it's never been a deep dish. Like, literally, never. Now, I'm sure it happens, but the problem is deep dish or stuffed generally require utensils and if you're dealing with a party, you don't want to deal with that.
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Ok, tricky question. I have had great pizza at specific places in cities you'd not associate with great pizza. Hound dogs pizza in Columbus for instance. Or a place in suburban Pittsburgh (bridgeville) that I sadly forgot the name of. Hell, even Gusano's here in ft. Smith Arkansas is pretty good. But as a city on the whole, I'm not sure I'd say any of those three cities. LA certainly had lots of great places but also lots of crap. I think that just comes from being a large city.
I had great pizza at "Extreme" (Xtreme?) pizza in Long Beach, and there was also this pizza place near Napa, the name of which I forgot but it had outstanding pizza. Their wild boar pizza was to die for - wish I could remember the name.
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New York for me - which extends to Long Island, Northern NJ, etc. - I grew up there, so perhaps I'm biased.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I've heard the Chicago "Deep Dish" thing is mostly for tourists, and that locals don't eat it much.
I ate pizza in a Brooklyn neighborhood restaurant about 2 years ago. It was great pizza, except that it was gourmet and wasn't what I had ever imagined eating in Brookyln. But then again, many of my stereotypes and preconceived notions of Brooklyn where crushed by my visit there LOL
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Las Vegas should not be on that list. Finding a decent pizza in this town is way more difficult than it should be. NO, a $50 pie at a casino is NOT "a decent pizza"; it's a ridiculous thing that we laugh at tourists for buying, even as we thank them for our spiffy roads.
I'm just sayin, I've never had a bad meal or gone hungry in Vegas, though you're probably right: I probably did overpay for whatever I had.
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Where’s the great pizza in Washington?

Dayton, Ohio, should be on the list. Dayton has a style of pizza I haven’t found anywhere else yet—available at Marion’s Piazza and Cassano’s Pizza King. It’s heaven.
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Where’s the great pizza in Washington?

Dayton, Ohio, should be on the list. Dayton has a style of pizza I haven’t found anywhere else yet—available at Marion’s Piazza and Cassano’s Pizza King. It’s heaven.
Looking at Google images, a lot of those pictures look like Chicago style thin crust/tavern pizza, including the square "party cut," except that the sausage pizza looks like it's crumbled sausage rather than clumps of sausage like we do here. The crumbled sausage reminds me of Quad Cities pizza, but their crust is different. and they have a funky way of cutting their pizza (down the middle and then laterally into wide strips.)
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I did find this Reddit thread about Dayton style pizza. Supposedly, the defining features are:

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Defining feature are thin crust sprinkled underneath with corn meal, no outer crust, sweeter sauce, and square cuts. Similar in some ways to St. Louis pizza, but it lacks provel cheese.
So, to me, sounds like a lot of local thin crust pizza here in Chicago (and in other parts of the Midwest--Milwaukee in particular, but also parts of Indiana and other parts of Ohio) with the square cut and no outer crust. A dusting of cornmeal is popular with some places, and the sweetness of the sauce will vary (Aurelio's and Palermo's, for instance, being examples of the "sugar sauce" places.) You won't see that style of crumbled sausage here, I don't think. Only place I know that does it in Chicago is Roots Pizza, but they do Quad Cities style.
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I live in DC and love my city, and while we do have a vibrant food scene, we do not do pizza well. There are a couple of places, like Timber, that do a nice job, but I'm sorry to say we don't belong on this particular list.
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I've never been to NY, but I've tried the "NY style" pizza from Jimmy's and Santullo's in Chicago. I will never understand why NY pizza is a thing. It's greasy, flavorless cheese like substance on charred cardboard. Some day, maybe, I'll get to NY and try a real place like that, but for now, I have no idea why it's a thing.

And having lived in St. Louis for a few years now, I can unequivocally say there are some great pizza places here (Deweys and Pi are very, very good), but "St. Louis style" pizza is the worst pizza I've ever had.

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Live near Detroit and had Chicago's as well.

Detroit's is better and is the best pizza I've had. Having said that, my experience is limited and I have hardly traveled the country to try any.
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DC does not have good pizza. Maybe there are one or two gems, but as a rule it's pretty bad. You can't just go into any pizza place and have a good pizza like you can in Chicago (thin>deep dish, on most occasions)

NYC pizza is good, but overrated. Haven't had New Haven style.
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Looking at Google images, a lot of those pictures look like Chicago style thin crust/tavern pizza, including the square "party cut," except that the sausage pizza looks like it's crumbled sausage rather than clumps of sausage like we do here. The crumbled sausage reminds me of Quad Cities pizza, but their crust is different. and they have a funky way of cutting their pizza (down the middle and then laterally into wide strips.)
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I did find this Reddit thread about Dayton style pizza. Supposedly, the defining features are:



So, to me, sounds like a lot of local thin crust pizza here in Chicago (and in other parts of the Midwest--Milwaukee in particular, but also parts of Indiana and other parts of Ohio) with the square cut and no outer crust. A dusting of cornmeal is popular with some places, and the sweetness of the sauce will vary (Aurelio's and Palermo's, for instance, being examples of the "sugar sauce" places.) You won't see that style of crumbled sausage here, I don't think. Only place I know that does it in Chicago is Roots Pizza, but they do Quad Cities style.
Another key characteristic is that the toppings are all finely minced. That's why the sausage is crumbled instead of chunky. Everything is tiny.

I've had a variation in Chillicothe, Ohio, in which the pie is cut into narrow strips instead of small squares

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I live in DC and love my city, and while we do have a vibrant food scene, we do not do pizza well. There are a couple of places, like Timber, that do a nice job, but I'm sorry to say we don't belong on this particular list.
I agree with this. Occasionally you might come across a good pizza (I recommend 4th and Hill at Eastern Market), but generally speaking, Washington is a shitty pizza town.

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I've had pizza in Boston (Dorchester) once, and don't remember that it was bad. Which means it was fine, because I never forget crappy pizza. Lookin' at you Imo's in Missouri. Other than that, I have only enjoyed pizza from the Chicago area, and there is really good pizza all over, the suburbs included.
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I'm just sayin, I've never had a bad meal or gone hungry in Vegas, though you're probably right: I probably did overpay for whatever I had.
Wen I moved here in the '90s I was led to believe this was a 24-hour town; that proved not to be true the first time I tried to get a pizza delivered at 2am.

After a few years and much growth, it became possible to get a pizza delivered almost anywhere in the valley, provided you wanted Pizza Hut or Papa Johns.

After a few more years and exponential growth, it became possible to find a good pizza joint that would deliver in certain parts of the valley, and that's still the way it is today.

For example, when I bought my house I had to pay $5 extra to have my favorite pizzeria deliver to my new address. Since then, a slew of places have opened up. I've tried them all and found two that were acceptable, but neither were as good as the old place, so I continued to pay them the extra $5. Finally a new place opened that is great, so now my pies don't have to come from Henderson any more.

This is in a city of 2 million people that was founded by mobsters, ffs.
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Another key characteristic is that the toppings are all finely minced. That's why the sausage is crumbled instead of chunky. Everything is tiny.
Gotcha. That seems important. But with the pepperoni and cheese pizzas, they looked similar to what you'd get here (pepperoni wasn't minced). But the sausage pizza was definitely different. Ours typically looks like this or this, with the sausage in chunks and usually some of the cheese at lease sticking to it or over it. (That second link pictures one that is a bit more OCD perfectly-aligned-on-a-grid sausage type of application; typically it's more haphazardly scattered.)
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Okay, well that settles it then: I musta lucked out (or been really hungry) in DC and Las Vegas is overrated because it's, well, Vegas.

Looks like Chicago is the SDMB's favorite so far.

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Given the origins of the board, it makes sense that people favor Chicago. That would change if more of you visited New Haven.
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That is and isn't true. We definitely eat deep dish here, but, at least in my experience, it tends to be "special occasion" pizza.
This sounds accurate to me, too, IME. I've lived here for 30 years now, and I get a serious jones for deep-dish maybe three or four times a year. I go have some, it's great, I feel like I ate a boat anchor, and then I'm good for another few months. (Also, there's a correlation between having a friend in from out of town, and going for deep-dish pizza.)

But, I've become a huge fan of the super-thin Chicago pizza, especially with a crisp, cracker-style crust, and, of course, cut into little squares.
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I grew up near NYC, so I'd go with "NY Style Pizza"


After that, I went to school in the Boston area, where the prevailing pizza type seemed to be Greek-oriented. There are some good pizza places here, but they advertise themselves as "NY-style"


Rochester, NY, actually had a lot of really great pizza places, in a variety of styles, including NY and Chicago deep-dish style, as wel as some local variations. I don't love Rochester for much, but they did have good pizza.





My all-time favorite pizza joint was The Pie (AKA The Flying Pie) across the street from the University of Utah, and still there, I believe. It was the ultimate University Student Pizza Dive. Not enough to call the entire city A Great Pizza City, but I'd love to go back for a couple of slices.
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Phoenix (I know; I was surprised as well, but, when it's on, the Pizza Rosa at Pizzeria Bianco is my favorite pizza in America. But there's a number of great places there, like Pomo and CIBO, and they have a good variety of styles, as well, from Neapolitan to New York to deep dish to Chicago thin crust.
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Having moved to Phoenix from Philadelphia a couple of years ago, I can say that there is no comparison in the overall quality of pizza. In the Philly suburbs where I lived there were 6-7 mom and pop pizza places within a five minute drive, all of which were infinitely superior to anything we have found in Arizona. At lunch time you can go into any of these places, choose slices from the 10-15 varieties behind the counter, they'd throw them in the over to heat up and you get a perfect crispy but not crumbly crust (IMHO reheating pizza in a pizza oven after it has cooled down a bit from its original cooking produces the absolutely best crust). Out here I haven't found any place where you can get any pizza by the slice - at least within a reasonable drive.

I did recently find a chain that claims to be Chicago style. Their thin crust is edible, but I like something a bit toothier than the cracker-like crust. Plus I can't stand the way they cut it into squares - seems unnatural.

I haven't tried the places that you mention, but there is a Pomo about 20 minutes from my house that I will try.

But when discussing great cities for pizza I think a city having a few good pizza places amongst hundreds of so-so or bad places does not count as a good pizza city. The great pizza has to be ingrained into the local culture.
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Given the origins of the board, it makes sense that people favor Chicago. That would change if more of you visited New Haven.
Like I said, bucket list! It's practically guaranteed I'll love New Haven pizza. What I do like about Chicago is the range of styles you get here (we also have our own New Haven-style place, Piece, and it's good, but I imagine New Haven style pizza to still be a bit different.) For me, that's what makes Chicago my favorite pizza town. I don't think we really give a shit about what you call pizza. There's a gazillion different types out there, and no need to harp about one style being better than another. They're all different, and the best examples of each are great, with the exception of provel-style St. Louis pizza a la Imo's. That we shall not speak of.
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Las Vegas should not be on that list. Finding a decent pizza in this town is way more difficult than it should be. NO, a $50 pie at a casino is NOT "a decent pizza"; it's a ridiculous thing that we laugh at tourists for buying, even as we thank them for our spiffy roads.
I have found plenty of decent pizza places in Vegas - Pizza Rock, Naked City, and Metro (across the street from the Pinball Hall of Fame) immediately come to mind. Of course, neither is near the Strip, much less inside of a Strip casino - but then, what's wrong with Secret No Name Mystery Meat Whatever It's Called This Week Pizza at the Cosmopolitan?

Of course, by that standard, pretty much every reasonably large city in the USA can rate "honorable mention" on the list - for example, Berkeley.
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I have found plenty of decent pizza places in Vegas - Pizza Rock, Naked City, and Metro (across the street from the Pinball Hall of Fame) immediately come to mind. Of course, neither is near the Strip, much less inside of a Strip casino - but then, what's wrong with Secret No Name Mystery Meat Whatever It's Called This Week Pizza at the Cosmopolitan?

Of course, by that standard, pretty much every reasonably large city in the USA can rate "honorable mention" on the list - for example, Berkeley.
Aye; there is pizza in Las Vegas. Those you mention are "acceptable" in my view but not "great" or "PIZZA!" quality. The best of the ones you mention, IMO, is Secret Pizza, but I'm an Italian from New York, so I have a deeply ingrained preference for NY style pizza.

If you live in Las Vegas, I recommend Napoli Pizza (NY style but with a slightly thicker crust than most actually-in-NY pizza) and/or Rosati's Pizza (Chicago style).

ETA: FTR, the best pizzathe pizza I judge all others by is Zuccarelli's in Sunrise, FL and Plantation, FL. I found them as soon as we moved down there (I was 11 years old at the time) and they consistently were awesome.

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Given the origins of the board, it makes sense that people favor Chicago. That would change if more of you visited New Haven.
Like I said, bucket list! It's practically guaranteed I'll love New Haven pizza.
Let us know when you decide to visit and we can offer some suggestions. (One obvious one, so you can minimize your time in The Most Boring State in the Union, is to take Amtrak in and out of town. New Haven is conveniently on the Northeast Corridor, so you can take the train from Boston/NYC and then take another train a few days later out of town.)
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This sounds accurate to me, too, IME. I've lived here for 30 years now, and I get a serious jones for deep-dish maybe three or four times a year. I go have some, it's great, I feel like I ate a boat anchor, and then I'm good for another few months. (Also, there's a correlation between having a friend in from out of town, and going for deep-dish pizza.)

But, I've become a huge fan of the super-thin Chicago pizza, especially with a crisp, cracker-style crust, and, of course, cut into little squares.
That was my experience living and working there for three years. When we celebrated, or when someone had a mad craving, it was deep dish at Giordano's (it was close to the office). When we worked late, it was Domino's.

pulykamell, do you have any pizza (or other!) recommendations for the Quad Cities? I'll probably be visiting Chicago later this year and will take a trip west to see people in Galesburg and the QC. Thanks! Just FYI, Pizza House in Galesburg has that finely minced sausage on a very thin crust pizza. It was heavenly, and I don't usually like sausage!
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I don't know. I feel like it's so ubiquitous in the US there's good and bad pizza to be found just about anywhere. In fact there's probably more shitty pizza in New York and Chicago per capita due to so many joints just trading on the city's reputation while producing awful product.

Seriously, what exactly makes a "good pizza city" besides historical reputation?
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I can't speak for NY, but I dispute your suspicion. In fact, if you came to Chicago and avoided Little Caesars, Dominos etc. You'd have to try lots of places before you found a crappy one. And you really wouldn't find many.
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Hmm. Doesn't seem like it's all that difficult to find shitty pizza in Chicago.
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Some of those answers are just plain wrong. I mean, like wrong.

But, yes, depending on how snobbish you are about pizza, there are plenty of mediocre pizzas here. I'm not one of those "pizzas are like sex" types of people. I think there are plenty bad of both, so I only go to a handful of places I consider "good," but all those make it worth it. But Malnati's? D'Agostino's, or Pequod's of all fucking places being worst? Pure madness. That list may as well be "name a pizza place you know."

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I’ve lived in Chicago for 7 years now and love the variety of good pizza we have here. I’ve been on quite a few pizza tours, so I’ve experienced just about everything. It’s a great pizza town.

I’ve spent a lot of time in DC the past few months. While I’m not sure DC is known for pizza, I can strongly recommend Allpurposeshaw.

http://allpurposedc.com/locations/shaw/#menu
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It's New York. It's laughable that other cities even have pretensions of topping the Big Apple. I've been to that place in New Haven and it's very good, though.
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No what's laughable is that there can be no other opinions. So you can fold NY pizza, so what? If I wanted folded pizza I'd have a calzone.
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It's one thing to say that New York is the place where it's easiest to get excellent pizza.

It's quite a different thing to say that a particular style of New York pizza (foldable?) is the only kind of pizza that's good. That's just dumb.
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...And having lived in St. Louis for a few years now, I can unequivocally say there are some great pizza places here (Deweys and Pi are very, very good), but "St. Louis style" pizza is the worst pizza I've ever had.
You beat me to it. We had pizza last year* at some place near the Gateway Arch, and it was by far the worst pizza I've ever had. It was completely inedible. I've had cold school cafeteria pizza that tasted better. It's like it was made by aliens that had no idea what a pizza actually was, so they made something that superficially resembled a pizza.

*ETA: Actually, it was in August of 2017. We went there to see the eclipse.

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It's one thing to say that New York is the place where it's easiest to get excellent pizza.

It's quite a different thing to say that a particular style of New York pizza (foldable?) is the only kind of pizza that's good. That's just dumb.
That's what a lot of Chicago Pizza detractors do when they only talk about deep dish, so same same right? Yes the big thin slices that you can fold, have you not heard of that NY pizza?

I'm sure NY has great pizza, I've never been there, but heard tell. I just love Chicago pizza and object to the idea that any other opinion besides NY is laughable.
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Where’s the great pizza in Washington?

Dayton, Ohio, should be on the list. Dayton has a style of pizza I haven’t found anywhere else yet—available at Marion’s Piazza and Cassano’s Pizza King. It’s heaven.
I remember getting good pizza in Dayton. But then, I was kid and was smoking a lotta dope.

I lived in Los Angeles for 30 years and it should not be on the list. Lots of bad pizza, not much good pizza.

But still better than the Sacramento area.

So far, my favorite pizza ever is in Lodi, Ca. http://www.smackpiepizza.com/
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I doubt San Jose would ever make a top 10 list of best pizza cities, but we do have outstanding places to get NY style (Bibos, Slice of New York) and Chicago-style (Patxi's, BJ's). i would also recommend Premier Pizza and Tony & Alba's.
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Yes the big thin slices that you can fold, have you not heard of that NY pizza?
I've been in New York and I have had New York pizza. I just think it's weird to tout "foldability" as a desirable characteristic of foodstuffs. Can you not talk about what it's like to eat it?

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I spent four years in New Haven. New Haven has the best pizza. Hands down.

I’m a Sally’s man. They literally pour virgin olive oil over the fresh pies as they take them from the ovens.

Wooster Street is a hella long way from campus though. For everyday pizza or grinders (hero sandwiches) we went to Yorkside Pizza, just across from the back of Sterling Memorial Library. Second choice was Naples Pizza on Wall Street, across from Silliman College. Name since changed to “Wall Street Pizza.”
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