Man Fatally Shoots Self While Teaching Girlfriend Lesson on Gun Safety
Well… I’m guessing she won’t have any difficulty retaining this information.
Would you like to be shot with a dummy load? If you mean a “blank cartridge”, that will blow your brains out at Russian Roulette distance.
I assumed he meant a snap cap, which is just a fake plastic cartridge with no primer, powder or bullet, usually used for dry firing exercises. There’s no reason you couldn’t do the test with a live round, as long as you either fire downrange instead of at your skull, or just reopen the cylinder and see where the live round is.
So what do they call Russian Roullette in Russia? Roullette? Then what do they call the casino game?
:smack: Guns don’t “go off!”
I didn’t think he meant to fire it at all. He said “SEE where it ends up”.
Man, you guys get scary!
Well, I’d never put a live round in a firearm unless I was in a place where discharging it was legal, safe, and socially acceptable. So if I wanted to do this test in my basement, I’d use a snap cap, or some other completely inert device, even if I never intended to fire.
Whoa. Is there a story here?
Quoth Argent Towers:
That makes them pretty useless, then, doesn’t it? A gun that doesn’t go off is just a paperweight, or maybe a club. I’d guess that your objection is that guns don’t go off without cause, such as someone pulling the trigger, but that doesn’t seem like a reasonable objection to make to the wording in the article.
The article is pretty vague on just what caused the gun to go off. It says he put the gun to his head, and the gun went off. It seems from the context of the story that the gun went off because he pulled the trigger, but it’s never explicitly stated.
In terms of gambling odds, it depends on the rules. If the rules are each person spins before pulling the trigger, the odds are 1/(number of rounds.) For a 6 shooter, the odds would be 1/6. However, if turns are taken without re-spins, then the next person has a huge disadvantage (1/5 chance.) Each successive person would have worse odds, and the 6th person would have a 100% chance of being killed.
Actually for a six-shooter the odds would be 1:5.
1/6 is the probability.
That’s not what the OP is about. But just to clarify–and I’m not saying that you said otherwise–it’s no worse to be later than earlier in this scenario (unless, of course, you’re seventh or higher). The second person has a 1/5 chance of being killed if he fires, but only a 5/6 chance of firing, so his chance of being killed is 1/6, just like the first person.
Now, if Monty shows him an empty chamber…
There isn’t much of a story. I was a young, a little depressed, drunk, and in the mood for a thrill so I played one round of Russian Roulette by myself. It was terrifying but I spun the chamber, closed my eyes, snapped it shut and then put my revolver in my mouth and pulled the trigger. I just figured I would let fate sort things out once and for all. Click. That put things in perspective for a long time although I don’t recommend it as therapy for other people.
I am about the biggest fan of dark comedies there is but that one out of control although still very well done. Sunday’s Game is an extremely disturbing short film. I can’t even imagine what the person that wrote that was thinking. I almost want to watch it again but I am not sure I can take another viewing of it today.
Mine holds 15 bullets. So, if I remove 14 and just have one in there can I play?..
Oh, and I don’t have one of them there fancy turny things to spin, but I guess I wont make much difference…Will it? :rolleyes:
The problem is that many people who aren’t familiar with firearms literally assume that a loaded firearm can “go off” at any time without intervention, which implies a greater inherent danger and diverts attention from the culpability of the wielder. While some old or very cheap weapons are prone to unintentional discharge if dropped or otherwise subjected to a strong blow, all modern good quality firearms have internal safeties that prevent this from occurring, and despite urban legends about mass failures very, very few incidences of failure have occurred. Similarly vague statements are often used to justify an obvious suicide as an accident or mechanical defect i.e. “he was shot while cleaning his weapon,” even though the first thing you would do in cleaning a weapon is unload it.
One woman who I trained actually refused to chamber a round until she was standing at the firing lane with the gun raised and ready to fire because she feared that the gun might “go off” on its own, even after I explained to her in detail that the particular firearm she was using (a Glock 22) could not fire unless the trigger was fully depressed as it had both a trigger safety and a firing pin block. This was not really an issue because on the range you don’t want shooters to put weapons in battery until they are ready to fire, but this was a defensive shooting class and I explained to her that owing to degradation of fine motor skills under extreme stress it was inadvisable to keep a weapon unchambered until she made the decision to fire as it would be very easy to short-stroke the weapon, or to clutch the gun with the trigger accidentally depressed as she chambered a round, possibly having the gun discharge in an uncontrolled direction.
In the case of the person cited, it is not only clear that he (presumably accidentally) pulled the trigger, he also violated Rules #1, #2, and #3 of basic gun safety. This is what we call evolution in action.
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