# Cafe Society

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## [The Death Spiral of a TV show (doin' it, engagement, marriage, baby)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-spiral-of-a-tv-show-doin-it-engagement-marriage-baby/962951)

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**Author:** [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\
**Replies:** 40\
**Last updated:** [March 21, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-spiral-of-a-tv-show-doin-it-engagement-marriage-baby/962951 "2023-03-21T03:22:54Z")

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It’s not “Jump the Shark” but something else. Is there a name for it, or do we need to create one? So, when there’s attraction and sexual tension between the male/female protagonists what usually happens is that eventua…

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## [A history question (despite being sparked by a Kinks song)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-history-question-despite-being-sparked-by-a-kinks-song/981368)

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**Author:** [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-history-question-despite-being-sparked-by-a-kinks-song/981368 "2023-03-20T23:17:30Z")

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Don’t know if it made the 1979 Billboard charts but I remember hearing (and enjoying) the Kinks song “Catch Me Now I’m Falling” on my favorite local (Detroit area) radio station. Well I heard it today and was able to pa…

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## [There are too many clues in this room](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-clues-in-this-room/410089)

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**Author:** [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-clues-in-this-room/410089 "2023-03-20T21:39:59Z")

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What is the origin of ‘There are too many clues in this room’? Gordon Lightfoot used the line in one of his songs. It was used in Agatha Christie’s Murder On The Orient Express (the 1974 film), which was written in the…

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## ["Luther" - Netflix](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/luther-netflix/981178)

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**Author:** [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/luther-netflix/981178 "2023-03-20T19:40:25Z")

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This is an Idris Elba movie that Netflix just released on March 10. Luther (Idris) escapes from prison in order to catch a horrific serial killer before the authorities recapture him. It is very well done and very exci…

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## [What is the last sentence from the book you just finished reading?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-last-sentence-from-the-book-you-just-finished-reading/981394)

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**Author:** [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-last-sentence-from-the-book-you-just-finished-reading/981394 "2023-03-20T13:59:32Z")

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Thought I would re-start this topic; I think there was a thread before? "So, Hastings — we went hunting once more, did we not? Vive le sport! ABC Murders — Agatha Christie.

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## [My Fair Lady Trivia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-fair-lady-trivia/981387)

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**Author:** [@Petek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petek)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-fair-lady-trivia/981387 "2023-03-20T10:11:46Z")

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In the following screenshot from the movie My Fair Lady, who is the man in the portrait behind Higgins, and why is his portrait appropriate?

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## [What's your opinion on "Darling Lili", an old American movie?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403)

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**Author:** [@Roman67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roman67)\
**Replies:** 247\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2023, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403 "2023-03-20T09:40:54Z")

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I’m a fan of Julie Andrews, just because I was extremely impressed with “The Sound of Music” and “Mary Poppins”. You know, there’re loads of critics of this film, and the estimations in IMDB aren’t very high. However, it…

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## [dark Phoenix- seen = critics pile on job? A very watchable movie?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-phoenix-seen-critics-pile-on-job-a-very-watchable-movie/835547)

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**Author:** [@Helmut\_Doork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helmut_Doork)\
**Replies:** 51\
**Last updated:** [March 19, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-phoenix-seen-critics-pile-on-job-a-very-watchable-movie/835547 "2023-03-19T22:49:05Z")

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I see the reviews and keep watching this saying, ok at some point this is going to really start to suck I guess, but it never did suck, it was average to above IMO, nowhere near the class of Fantastic Four. No dull spots…

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## [The Straight Dope referenced in FB article about John Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-referenced-in-fb-article-about-john-wayne/981338)

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**Author:** [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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**Last updated:** [March 19, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-referenced-in-fb-article-about-john-wayne/981338 "2023-03-19T15:55:22Z")

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Just came across this in an article in my Facebook feed. Context: The Straight Dope offers a nuanced assessment of Wayne’s decision not to enlist. The actor was 34 years old at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack, ha…

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## [Couple dumb Planet of the Apes film nitpicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/couple-dumb-planet-of-the-apes-film-nitpicks/981342)

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**Author:** [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [March 19, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/couple-dumb-planet-of-the-apes-film-nitpicks/981342 "2023-03-19T15:28:08Z")

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They KEEP sending more astronauts to look for the previous ones! The first, the second…the TV series…the animated series. Yet we see in the first one that time dilation is in effect. Very little time has passed for Tay…

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## [Lance Reddick has died](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lance-reddick-has-died/981304)

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**Author:** [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lance-reddick-has-died/981304 "2023-03-18T19:34:10Z")

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Story here: I liked his genre work (never saw The Wire), and especially his voice acting, such as in the Horizon franchise

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## [The Flintstones Reveals the Voice Cast for Its New Series ..will it be the next "velma"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flintstones-reveals-the-voice-cast-for-its-new-series-will-it-be-the-next-velma/981060)

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**Author:** [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flintstones-reveals-the-voice-cast-for-its-new-series-will-it-be-the-next-velma/981060 "2023-03-18T16:30:42Z")

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Apparently, this has been in the works for years and they’re retconning the last 3 animated tv specials from the 00s but all the commenting sections I’ve seen are saying its going to the next poorly received Velma or …

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## [What is your favorite tribute to a musical group or singer?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-favorite-tribute-to-a-musical-group-or-singer/981078)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2023, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-favorite-tribute-to-a-musical-group-or-singer/981078 "2023-03-18T08:54:23Z")

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Most “tributes” I’ve seen/heard are quickly tossed off vanity pieces best viewed as novelties, but a few years back at The Kennedy Center Honors Led Zeppelin was being honored by Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart singing “St…

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## [Where did this YouTube voice come from?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-this-youtube-voice-come-from/981303)

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**Author:** [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-this-youtube-voice-come-from/981303 "2023-03-18T04:08:00Z")

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Sometimes between scenes there will be voice that says something like “one hour later”, a little haltingly in some weird, probably fake, accent. WTF is that? Maybe from some game?

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## [The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-discovery-of-morniel-mathaway/981270)

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**Author:** [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-discovery-of-morniel-mathaway/981270 "2023-03-18T00:00:50Z")

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The Discovery of Morniel Mathaway is a famous 1955 SF story by William Tenn (pseudonym of Philip Klass). I believe it’s one of the earliest examples of the SF trope where Anyway, what I’m curious about is the name of t…

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## [Do You Listen To Music With Your Kids?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-listen-to-music-with-your-kids/981213)

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**Author:** [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-listen-to-music-with-your-kids/981213 "2023-03-17T23:16:33Z")

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Well, do you? Vaderling and I listen to music together while in the car. Sometimes we listen to “his stuff”, sometimes “my stuff” and sometimes, where our tastes overlap, “our stuff” Do you other doper parents have ov…

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## [Question of how Megara Hercules 's wife actually dies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-of-how-megara-hercules-s-wife-actually-dies/981098)

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**Author:** [@Octagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octagon)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-of-how-megara-hercules-s-wife-actually-dies/981098 "2023-03-17T21:51:07Z")

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There is typically a description of how Hercules kills his victims. Curiously I have never come across any description of how he kills his first wife Megara. I’d been interested to know how she died.

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## [Def Leppard drummer Rick Allen, and female bystander, assaulted in Florida](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/def-leppard-drummer-rick-allen-and-female-bystander-assaulted-in-florida/981273)

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**Author:** [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/def-leppard-drummer-rick-allen-and-female-bystander-assaulted-in-florida/981273 "2023-03-17T20:24:58Z")

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Rick Allen, the world’s best known one-armed drummer, was attacked outside a hotel and sustained a head injury after he was tackled to the sidewalk, and a female bystander who intervened was also injured. Is it just t…

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## [Victorian Novels: Why blank names?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victorian-novels-why-blank-names/981221)

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**Author:** [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victorian-novels-why-blank-names/981221 "2023-03-17T15:33:32Z")

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I don’t have a specific novel in mind but this is so common you’ll know what I’m talking about. I’m wondering why novels of this specific era (and it’s usually English Novels) leave out names in a fictional or at least …

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## [Let's talk about "The Thing"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-the-thing/979840)

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**Author:** [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Replies:** 168\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-the-thing/979840 "2023-03-17T13:35:12Z")

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No, not the orange rock dude from F4, but the 1982 John Carpenter movie that bombed when it came out but which has since come to be regarded as a Horror/SF classic. If you want to go beyond the film and into the Fifties…

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## [What did Sam Houston call the Scottish guy in the Alamo?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sam-houston-call-the-scottish-guy-in-the-alamo/239852)

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**Author:** [@Poetgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poetgrrl)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sam-houston-call-the-scottish-guy-in-the-alamo/239852 "2023-03-17T08:37:46Z")

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I watched the Alamo yesterday, and was a bit puzzled when Sam Houston called this Scottish guy a name. It must have been derogitory, because the guy nearly blew his top, and Houston called him another name too boot. I ca…

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## [Singer Bobby Caldwell passes at age 71](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/singer-bobby-caldwell-passes-at-age-71/981254)

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**Author:** [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [March 16, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/singer-bobby-caldwell-passes-at-age-71/981254 "2023-03-16T18:40:11Z")

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Both of these videos feature his big hit “What You Won’t Do For Love”, but they both offer interesting glimpses into his career: … Finally, the Bobby Caldwell tribute thread here in Cafe S…

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## [YouTube rabbit holes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-rabbit-holes/981083)

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**Author:** [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Replies:** 50\
**Last updated:** [March 16, 2023, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-rabbit-holes/981083 "2023-03-16T06:51:01Z")

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What’s yours’s? My latest is Thailand condos for rent. It’s just unbelievable the condos you can get for about $500 a month. High rise in a newer building with rooftop infinity pools and gardens. And the most amazing cit…

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## [Movies you thought you'd never see or music you thought you'd never hear](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-thought-youd-never-see-or-music-you-thought-youd-never-hear/981205)

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**Author:** [@Didi44](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Didi44)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [March 16, 2023, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-thought-youd-never-see-or-music-you-thought-youd-never-hear/981205 "2023-03-16T05:36:59Z")

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I’m a long time fan (since 1991) of Joey Wong Jyo Yin / Wang Tsu Hsien (A Chinese Ghost Story (1987 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11404502)) and to my knowledge have finally collected all of her movies. The one I thought…

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## [Jodie Whittaker and Chris Chibnall both leaving Doctor Who - thoughts? \[Russell T Davies is returning\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jodie-whittaker-and-chris-chibnall-both-leaving-doctor-who-thoughts-russell-t-davies-is-returning/947620)

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**Author:** [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Replies:** 172\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jodie-whittaker-and-chris-chibnall-both-leaving-doctor-who-thoughts-russell-t-davies-is-returning/947620 "2023-03-15T19:59:41Z")

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I’m so thankful. It is very easy to blame Chris Chibnall and the truth is, he has been the worst show-runner of the modern era, but the truth its…Whittaker did nothing to elevate the material and make the Doctor fun. She…

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## [Office Space movie question](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-space-movie-question/830141)

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**Author:** [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Replies:** 56\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-space-movie-question/830141 "2023-03-15T14:58:20Z")

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watching Office Space again on DVD. I still have the stapler that came with it. PC load letter, what the fuck does that mean? …Next Friday is Hawaiian shirt day…It’s just that we’re putting the new cover sheets on the T…

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## [Elderly School Rap fans, help a girl out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elderly-school-rap-fans-help-a-girl-out/981118)

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**Author:** [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elderly-school-rap-fans-help-a-girl-out/981118 "2023-03-15T10:09:57Z")

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As happens to me very often these days, I woke up with a snippet of lyrics in my head: She went to the city And go so, so, so siddity Took me a while to place them since The Googles did not help. It’s from Grandmaster…

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## [2023 Oscars](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066)

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**Author:** [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Replies:** 214\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066 "2023-03-15T06:32:49Z")

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Do we not have a thread for this? That’s weird. “Everything Everywhere All At Once” is an enormous, crushing favorite to win Best Picture. It’s the most lopsided betting odds I have ever seen for that cetegory.

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## ["Head'em off at the Pass!"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/headem-off-at-the-pass/980518)

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**Author:** [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Replies:** 100\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/headem-off-at-the-pass/980518 "2023-03-15T03:48:31Z")

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When I look for the origin of this phrase, all I get are claims that it’s from old western movies, but nobody ever givens an actual cite. I’m not a big fan of westerns, but I don’t recall anyone ever saying this in a wes…

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## [After twenty years, I saw the movie I'd been looking for. How was it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-twenty-years-i-saw-the-movie-id-been-looking-for-how-was-it/951538)

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**Author:** [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Replies:** 115\
**Last updated:** [March 14, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/after-twenty-years-i-saw-the-movie-id-been-looking-for-how-was-it/951538 "2023-03-14T23:28:24Z")

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Sometime in the nineties, Siskel and Ebert did a segment on their movie review show where they chose some films that had not done well when released but nevertheless thought deserved to be rediscovered. One of Roger’s wa…

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