# Cafe Society **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/c/cafe-society/15.md?page=246 [Latest](https://boards.straightdope.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://boards.straightdope.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://boards.straightdope.com/tags.md) **Page:** 247 --- ## [Tony Dow -- Wally Cleaver -- dead at 77. {death now confirmed}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-dow-wally-cleaver-dead-at-77-death-now-confirmed/968602)
**Author:** [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Replies:** 64\ **Last updated:** [July 30, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-dow-wally-cleaver-dead-at-77-death-now-confirmed/968602 "2022-07-30T14:24:29Z")
I’m sure it’s just our attempt to put order on statistical chaos, but it seems as if celebrity deaths come in clumps. The latest in this clump is Tony Dow, best known to us Boomers as wally Cleaver on :Leave It To Beaver … --- ## [Live albums that give you a whole new outlook on the studio versions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-albums-that-give-you-a-whole-new-outlook-on-the-studio-versions/968526)
**Author:** [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Replies:** 40\ **Last updated:** [July 30, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-albums-that-give-you-a-whole-new-outlook-on-the-studio-versions/968526 "2022-07-30T12:49:41Z")
Continuing the discussion from Greatest single-LP, one-performer anthology?: @Akaj, the OP of that thread, had the idea for this one, partly I think to get me to stop borderline hijacking his … :wink: Which I’m going a… --- ## [What is the war movie (historical) you'd like to see made?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152)
**Author:** [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Replies:** 192\ **Last updated:** [July 30, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152 "2022-07-30T04:53:58Z")
Rather than hijack the ongoing discussion “What is the best war movie”, I’ll start a new thread. What war movie would you like to see made and why? History preferred, but fiction if you must. In the spirit of “A Bridg… --- ## [Bernard Cribbins Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernard-cribbins-dead/968721)
**Author:** [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernard-cribbins-dead/968721 "2022-07-29T22:38:36Z")
Probably best known here from Dr Who, but I have a soft spot for him as the narrator of The Wombles --- ## [Does Toto still have to die at the end of the Wizard of Oz?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-toto-still-have-to-die-at-the-end-of-the-wizard-of-oz/684496)
**Author:** [@squish7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squish7)\ **Replies:** 52\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-toto-still-have-to-die-at-the-end-of-the-wizard-of-oz/684496 "2022-07-29T21:52:22Z")
OK so this has been bothering me. At the end of the Wizard of Oz (film), Dorothy wakes up and everything is all wonderful because she and Toto are safe, but the catalyst conflict of the WHOLE MOVIE hasn’t changed, since… --- ## [Restaurants that can't do a specific thing well](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-that-cant-do-a-specific-thing-well/965335)
**Author:** [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Replies:** 174\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-that-cant-do-a-specific-thing-well/965335 "2022-07-29T21:33:43Z")
I was recently in Houston, and got food delivered from Kenny and Ziggy’s, a Jewish deli. I love their sandwiches, and they make a great bagel with sable and all the trimmings, but they can’t do one specific thing with an… --- ## [Jazz sax player who took \>20 choruses in a solo](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jazz-sax-player-who-took-20-choruses-in-a-solo/968790)
**Author:** [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jazz-sax-player-who-took-20-choruses-in-a-solo/968790 "2022-07-29T21:07:35Z")
I have heard a legendary story of a sax player performing with a famous big band (I am thinking Count Basie or maybe Duke Ellington) back in the 40s or 50s. During a concert performance this sax player was particularly h… --- ## [Worst tattoo coverup ever!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449)
**Author:** [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Replies:** 79\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449 "2022-07-29T19:55:22Z")
I put this here because Kat Von D is a celebrity of sorts and it is about art. I would have went thru years of laser removal rather than do this. Apparently she’s done it to both arms also. I took a look at some pics of … --- ## [Actors/Actresses whose looks changed drastically](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-actresses-whose-looks-changed-drastically/922813)
**Author:** [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Replies:** 190\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-actresses-whose-looks-changed-drastically/922813 "2022-07-29T01:44:41Z")
I was recently re-watching Newsradio and it struck me how much both Dave Foley and Joe Rogan’s looks have changed since the series (and since Kids in the Hall, but Dave pretty much looked the same in KITH and Newsradio).… --- ## [Which actor has played the most radically different real life roles?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-has-played-the-most-radically-different-real-life-roles/968692)
**Author:** [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Replies:** 20\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-has-played-the-most-radically-different-real-life-roles/968692 "2022-07-29T00:44:38Z")
So which actor has played two of the most radically different historical real life characters? Defining difference in whichever way you want, physical difference, personality, politics, ethics… I’d say Gary Oldman for p… --- ## [Recommend a book about integrity from this list](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-book-about-integrity-from-this-list/966674)
**Author:** [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-book-about-integrity-from-this-list/966674 "2022-07-29T00:37:02Z")
My school is asking all of the students to read a book over the summer about personal integrity, with a list of suggestions (students can pick a book not on the list, but should be prepared to defend how it represents in… --- ## [Let's talk about cozy mysteries](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-cozy-mysteries/944806)
**Author:** [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Replies:** 64\ **Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-cozy-mysteries/944806 "2022-07-29T00:21:52Z")
I have been a fan of cozy mysteries for a long time. I started with Agatha Christie’s Poirot and Miss Marple and went from there. I don’t know if this exactly fits the bill, but I loved Dorothy Gilman’s Mrs. Pollifax s… --- ## [National Public Radio and you](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-public-radio-and-you/966107)
**Author:** [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Replies:** 67\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-public-radio-and-you/966107 "2022-07-28T18:41:36Z")
Do you listen to NPR? If so, what specific programs do you love (or loath)? What other countries have something equivalent? (Here’s the Wikipedia entry, if you are unfamiliar with the thing.) Michigan radio, our local p… --- ## [Obi Wan Kenobi series to start filming in March, {Now showing as of June 2022}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obi-wan-kenobi-series-to-start-filming-in-march-now-showing-as-of-june-2022/922748)
**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Replies:** 398\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obi-wan-kenobi-series-to-start-filming-in-march-now-showing-as-of-june-2022/922748 "2022-07-28T13:16:03Z")
I hope they have at least one Jar Jar scene so some people’s heads explode --- ## [Crazy expensive sneakers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-expensive-sneakers/967775)
**Author:** [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Replies:** 29\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-expensive-sneakers/967775 "2022-07-28T09:15:21Z")
Our grandson wants a pair of Air Jordans for his birthday. He took us to a store that sells this stuff. “Grandpa! You can’t get them at Payless!” Silly me. Anyway, I couldn’t believe the price of shoes in the store. $225… --- ## [Another AI art generator](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ai-art-generator/966218)
**Author:** [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ai-art-generator/966218 "2022-07-28T04:56:23Z")
DALL-E is another digital art generator. Type in words and it will create multiple images. It does run slow, but eventually it will come up with images. --- ## [Anyone else sick of Joe Namath insurance TV ads?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-sick-of-joe-namath-insurance-tv-ads/926848)
**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Replies:** 55\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-sick-of-joe-namath-insurance-tv-ads/926848 "2022-07-28T02:41:26Z")
He’s on my TV more than Bloomberg was back when he was running. More then Law and Order reruns. CNN seems to run 3 or more per hour. Maybe he gets paid for every ad that runs like TV show actors. --- ## [What was the dumbest/worst "Updating Old Brand for the 21st Century!" ad campaign you saw?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-dumbest-worst-updating-old-brand-for-the-21st-century-ad-campaign-you-saw/968633)
**Author:** [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Replies:** 20\ **Last updated:** [July 27, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-dumbest-worst-updating-old-brand-for-the-21st-century-ad-campaign-you-saw/968633 "2022-07-27T21:40:11Z")
Not just within the last 22 years by the way, as the 90s also saw plenty of “We have to update this character from the 1920s to fit into the 1990s!” Basically any example of a company with an old mascot or brand identit… --- ## [Star Trek: Voyager S6E11, “Fair Haven”: At which point did Janeway go too far?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-voyager-s6e11-fair-haven-at-which-point-did-janeway-go-too-far/968562)
**Author:** [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [July 27, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-voyager-s6e11-fair-haven-at-which-point-did-janeway-go-too-far/968562 "2022-07-27T19:30:44Z")
Continuing the discussion from Polls only: No discussion: In this episode, Tom Paris has created a holodeck scenario involving an idealized 19th-century Irish village. Captain Janeway meets an interesting man there, a b… --- ## [I Am Only A Simple Caveman](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-only-a-simple-caveman/968534)
**Author:** [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [July 27, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-only-a-simple-caveman/968534 "2022-07-27T10:29:19Z")
I am only a simple caveman. I have been frozen in ice for thousands of years until recently - and I know little of your laws and customs and suchlike. But I do know one thing. Even I know that it is wrong to swear to … --- ## [The Alan Parsons Live Project](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alan-parsons-live-project/688449)
**Author:** [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Replies:** 41\ **Last updated:** [July 27, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alan-parsons-live-project/688449 "2022-07-27T05:25:09Z")
Scroll down here: http://www.paccleveland.com/event/545103-alan-parsons-live-project-cleveland/ I’ve been a fan of the Alan Parsons Project since the late Seventies. It was a great show last night at the Masonic Audito… --- ## [Joni Mitchell Returns to Newport](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joni-mitchell-returns-to-newport/968557)
**Author:** [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joni-mitchell-returns-to-newport/968557 "2022-07-26T23:18:55Z")
For the first time in 9 years, Joni Mitchell performed in public last weekend at the Newport Folk Festival. After her 2015 brain aneurysm she taught herself how to play the guitar again by watching old tapes of herself.… --- ## [What is the old tune in this "Baby and Bingo" song?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-old-tune-in-this-baby-and-bingo-song/968610)
**Author:** [@Hakushon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakushon)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-old-tune-in-this-baby-and-bingo-song/968610 "2022-07-26T19:18:11Z")
I couldn’t remember what this old tune was from, so I hummed it into Google Sound Search (their version of Shazam), and it spat out this YouTube video: Can someone please identify the original, old tune tha… --- ## [The Gray Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gray-man/968407)
**Author:** [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gray-man/968407 "2022-07-26T16:56:03Z")
Not a great movie. Pretty generic spy-thriller plot. Bad performances outside the leads, and the leads weren’t great with the exception with a corny over the top Chris Evans performance. Action scenes were too tightly sh… --- ## [Actor David Warner has died aged 80](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-david-warner-has-died-aged-80/968521)
**Author:** [@WhyKickAMooCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyKickAMooCow)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-david-warner-has-died-aged-80/968521 "2022-07-26T14:07:00Z")
Just read that British actor David Warner has died, just a few days before his 81st birthday. Some of the films I loved him in are: Straw Dogs, The Omen, Cross of Iron, Time Bandits, Tron, The Company of Wolves Waxwork… --- ## [Groups where female is not the lead singer?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-where-female-is-not-the-lead-singer/966977)
**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Replies:** 99\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-where-female-is-not-the-lead-singer/966977 "2022-07-26T08:43:25Z")
I can only think of Talking heads --- ## [Greatest single-LP, one-performer anthology?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-single-lp-one-performer-anthology/968480)
**Author:** [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Replies:** 55\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-single-lp-one-performer-anthology/968480 "2022-07-26T08:00:50Z")
What’s your favorite, single-LP anthology collecting previously-issued music by one performer or band? (No double albums, no box sets.) A CD qualifies, as long as its length doesn’t exceed the 45 minutes or so of a stand… --- ## [The final season of The Simpsons is going to be an amazing experience](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-season-of-the-simpsons-is-going-to-be-an-amazing-experience/962083)
**Author:** [@MarkSh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkSh)\ **Replies:** 25\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-season-of-the-simpsons-is-going-to-be-an-amazing-experience/962083 "2022-07-26T03:04:01Z")
The show’s been on for 33 years. Based on what I know about how TV shows, including the Simpsons, are renewed, The Simpsons creators will probably get at least two seasons advance notice about the show being discontinue… --- ## [Star Trek Discovery season 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597)
**Author:** [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Replies:** 155\ **Last updated:** [July 25, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-discovery-season-4/954597 "2022-07-25T19:26:26Z")
Episode 1…wasn’t horrible. It dragged in spots, it is soap opera-y as usual, but nobody burst into tears. (Although somebody might have as soon as the credits rolled.) Later in the season we’ll get to see how Michael pe… --- ## [Some Advice on how to Play Melodies in Octaves on the Piano?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-advice-on-how-to-play-melodies-in-octaves-on-the-piano/968517)
**Author:** [@Moonrise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonrise)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [July 25, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-advice-on-how-to-play-melodies-in-octaves-on-the-piano/968517 "2022-07-25T18:57:32Z")
So I have started playing Mia & Sebastian’s Theme from La La Land and it seems pretty doable, the first part at least. However, there’s a point where the melody is played in octaves. I understand the basic technique and… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/cafe-society/15.md?page=245) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/cafe-society/15.md?page=247)