# Cafe Society

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/c/cafe-society/15.md?page=291

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## [A Very Murray Christmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-murray-christmas/739598)

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**Author:** [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-murray-christmas/739598 "2021-12-15T18:32:51Z")

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New holiday special on Netflix went up yesterday-- A Very Murray Christmas, starring Bill Murray, George Clooney, Miley Cyrus, David Johansen, Rashida Jones, Amy Poehler, Paul Shaffer (the ultimate accompanist!) and a do…

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## [What's with the Styx hate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561)

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**Author:** [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Replies:** 63\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561 "2021-12-15T17:00:46Z")

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So in the I Hate Beatles Fans thread in the Pit, CheeseDonkey is being castigated for liking them. I get that Domo Arigato is cheesy but Renegade rocks and has one of the great intros in rock music. And you know Babe wa…

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## ['1984' Or 'Brave New World' (What Are We Becoming?)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1984-or-brave-new-world-what-are-we-becoming/955944)

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**Author:** [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1984-or-brave-new-world-what-are-we-becoming/955944 "2021-12-15T04:00:11Z")

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I’ll file this under literary questions. What is our society, US society specifically, going to end up ultimately as? George Orwell’s 1984 or Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World ? Because they’re both supposedly models of d…

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## [Chocolate Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-cake/954791)

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**Author:** [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-cake/954791 "2021-12-15T00:10:18Z")

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If someone offers you “Chocolate Cake” and hands you yellow cake with chocolate icing were they lying?

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## [What is This Crooked Spatula For?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-crooked-spatula-for/955991)

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**Author:** [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-crooked-spatula-for/955991 "2021-12-14T23:02:40Z")

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My grandmother bought this for me in a small shop where the clerk suggested it when asked, “What should I get for my grandson who likes to cook?” https://imgur.com/a/20xRXvS But what the heck is it for? Is this a manu…

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## [I enjoy a neapolitan pizza with spicy honey on it!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-enjoy-a-neapolitan-pizza-with-spicy-honey-on-it/955953)

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**Author:** [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-enjoy-a-neapolitan-pizza-with-spicy-honey-on-it/955953 "2021-12-14T18:21:37Z")

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I went to my usual favorite Neapolitan pizza joint with the Mrs. last night. They specialize in the type of pizza that’s made with the basics: Durum wheat flour, water, salt, San Marzano tomatoes, and bufala mozzarella…

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## ["Tis the season for sickeningly sweet holiday commercials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tis-the-season-for-sickeningly-sweet-holiday-commercials/955790)

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**Author:** [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tis-the-season-for-sickeningly-sweet-holiday-commercials/955790 "2021-12-14T14:56:48Z")

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Mostly insincere glurge, like the little girl who saves her snowman’s head, the old lady who overcomes her hesitation and gives a guy a pair of gloves, the woman across the street who sends her neighbor a birdfeeder. Now…

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## [Actors who are seen as often "playing themselves"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-who-are-seen-as-often-playing-themselves/955873)

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**Author:** [@BigDfromLA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDfromLA)\
**Replies:** 117\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-who-are-seen-as-often-playing-themselves/955873 "2021-12-14T13:17:34Z")

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Certain actors are often considered to be “playing themselves” in many of their roles. It seems to be somewhat insulting because it implies a limit in range and that they can only play roles that fit their perceived selv…

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## [So is Luann about to lose her virginity?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-luann-about-to-lose-her-virginity/626844)

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**Author:** [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Replies:** 297\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-luann-about-to-lose-her-virginity/626844 "2021-12-14T12:43:22Z")

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Or will she get busted by her parents first? Either way, \[del\]will there\[/del\] how much moral outrage will there be?

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## [Tell me about Butcher Box](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-butcher-box/956007)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-butcher-box/956007 "2021-12-14T03:21:19Z")

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So I see the advert, and look it up online…where I find out absolutely nothing about what is offered and what the costs might be. The only way to get info apparently is to give them your email address and start the proc…

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## [What’s the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-difference-between-dubai-and-abu-dhabi/955952)

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**Author:** [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-difference-between-dubai-and-abu-dhabi/955952 "2021-12-13T19:39:59Z")

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What’s the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi? The people in Dubai don’t like the Flintstones, but the people in Abu Dhabi do. :rofl::grinning\_face\_with\_smiling\_eyes:

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## [Pronunciation of non-English words in old movies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-non-english-words-in-old-movies/955026)

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**Author:** [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Replies:** 75\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-non-english-words-in-old-movies/955026 "2021-12-13T13:37:19Z")

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Last night, I watched the Rat Pack version of Ocean’s Eleven on TCM. Apart from being struck by all the cigarettes :open\_mouth: one thing really hit me. When Bergdorf came out of the military school after seeing his son,…

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## [Movies, TV shows, books, or plays that grew on you \[original title: Movies that grew on you\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-tv-shows-books-or-plays-that-grew-on-you-original-title-movies-that-grew-on-you/955737)

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**Author:** [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Replies:** 44\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-tv-shows-books-or-plays-that-grew-on-you-original-title-movies-that-grew-on-you/955737 "2021-12-13T11:07:05Z")

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I was so excited to see Millers Crossing the first time. I was SO disappointed. I was ready for tough guys, blood and, well, The Godfather. It seemed watered down - I mean, they didn’t cuss… not really, ya twist. It was…

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## [Whatever happened to Gilly's son? (A Song of Fire and Ice)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatever-happened-to-gillys-son-a-song-of-fire-and-ice/955906)

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**Author:** [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatever-happened-to-gillys-son-a-song-of-fire-and-ice/955906 "2021-12-13T08:53:32Z")

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I put A Song of Fire and Ice and not Game of Thrones because I think the child may have different fates in the books and series. It has been a few years since I watched the TV show and even more years since I’ve read the…

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## [Anne Rice dead at 80](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-rice-dead-at-80/955932)

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**Author:** [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-rice-dead-at-80/955932 "2021-12-13T04:58:23Z")

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Her son Christopher has broken the news on social media within the last hour. My mother was a fan of her all the way back from when Interview with the Vampire was first published, and I read a good share of her novels…

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## [Accurate portrayals of your profession in fiction](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accurate-portrayals-of-your-profession-in-fiction/954871)

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**Author:** [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\
**Replies:** 99\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accurate-portrayals-of-your-profession-in-fiction/954871 "2021-12-13T04:17:06Z")

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Hello everyone. I’m interested in hearing from any dopers who have seen their job shown in a work of fiction and thought “yeah, that’s just like real life”. I’ve heard plenty of grumbles from people who have seen bad, in…

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## [Tom King's Strange Adventures (DC Comics 12-issue series) (open spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-kings-strange-adventures-dc-comics-12-issue-series-open-spoilers/955867)

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**Author:** [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-kings-strange-adventures-dc-comics-12-issue-series-open-spoilers/955867 "2021-12-13T01:26:34Z")

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I’ve written about my love for the work of comic book writer Tom King (\[Batman\](I loved Tom King's run on Batman--let's discuss! (open spoilers) https://boards.straightdope.com/t/following-along-a-guide-to-reading-tom-ki…

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## [Would you put parmesan on this dish?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-put-parmesan-on-this-dish/955856)

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**Author:** [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-put-parmesan-on-this-dish/955856 "2021-12-12T21:25:36Z")

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I’m just asking out of curiosity. My son was poking fun at me last night at dinner time for doing this. (Wise guy :slight\_smile: ) It’s a dish I call “Mock-stroganoff” Basically it’s: Ground beef, egg noodles, beef brot…

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## [RIP Michael Nesmith, of the Monkees](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-michael-nesmith-of-the-monkees/955845)

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**Author:** [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Replies:** 71\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-michael-nesmith-of-the-monkees/955845 "2021-12-12T19:17:47Z")

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Singer-songwriter Michael Nesmith, who was a member of the Monkees, and later was a pioneer in the music video industry, died today of natural causes at age 78. As quoted in the Rolling Stone article: As a kid, I love…

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## [All I Want For Christmas Is...Q!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-q/955928)

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**Author:** [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-q/955928 "2021-12-12T15:01:11Z")

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Star Trek:TNG / Mariah Carey mashup I found while perusing Youtube. Caution, many people consider the song to be a horrible, horrible earworm. You’re welcome. :laughing:

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## [Most famous silent actor to be the most famous talky actor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-famous-silent-actor-to-be-the-most-famous-talky-actor/955886)

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**Author:** [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-famous-silent-actor-to-be-the-most-famous-talky-actor/955886 "2021-12-12T07:43:38Z")

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I was watching the Artist yesterday and it got me wondering. Who would have been the most famous silent era actor that made the most impact as an actor in the ‘talkies’ era? I know its subjective, as I can’t really defi…

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## [Female werewolf movies of the 1950's?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-werewolf-movies-of-the-1950s/955392)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-werewolf-movies-of-the-1950s/955392 "2021-12-12T01:54:16Z")

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Are there any?

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## [A Star Trek Omnibus thread. Do any of the old series hold up. How are the new ones?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-star-trek-omnibus-thread-do-any-of-the-old-series-hold-up-how-are-the-new-ones/955780)

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**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-star-trek-omnibus-thread-do-any-of-the-old-series-hold-up-how-are-the-new-ones/955780 "2021-12-11T21:20:42Z")

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I watched a lot of Star Trek back in the 90s and early 2000s. I’ve watched all of TNG, DS9, and Voyager, some of Enterprise, and all the movies before the Abrams reboot. I never got around to watching TOS. I gave up o…

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## [Any fans of Pen15 here?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-fans-of-pen15-here/829500)

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**Author:** [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-fans-of-pen15-here/829500 "2021-12-11T20:38:07Z")

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Detailed summary Here.. A cringe worthy show to say the least. Just finished binging this over the past three days. It c an be creepy at times. But it’s very real and NOT a feel good series. Anyway, I enjoyed the ser…

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## [How do so many crappy novels get published?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-so-many-crappy-novels-get-published/955797)

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**Author:** [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Replies:** 79\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-so-many-crappy-novels-get-published/955797 "2021-12-11T17:11:49Z")

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I know a couple of aspiring authors who bemoan the difficulty of getting published. I’ve read their work. While it doesn’t knock my socks off, I’ve sure encountered a lot that is a lot worse. I just finished a trashy …

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## [Is the death of Sebastian Shaw in X-Men: First Class theoretically possible given certain conditions?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-death-of-sebastian-shaw-in-x-men-first-class-theoretically-possible-given-certain-conditions/955609)

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**Author:** [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Replies:** 62\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-death-of-sebastian-shaw-in-x-men-first-class-theoretically-possible-given-certain-conditions/955609 "2021-12-11T12:04:38Z")

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The climax of X-Men: First Class happens inside the reactor room of a nuclear submarine. With glacial slowness, Magneto pushes a coin into the skull and through the brain of his rival Shaw, and out the other side, killin…

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## [Songs based on rehearsal riffs and such](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-based-on-rehearsal-riffs-and-such/953640)

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**Author:** [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-based-on-rehearsal-riffs-and-such/953640 "2021-12-11T04:01:49Z")

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Fleetwood Mac’s Tusk was an expansion on Lindsey Buckingham’s sound check riff, and TIL that ZZ Top’s La Grange started the same way. Educate me, Dopers. What other well-known songs started out as throw-away riffs?

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## [YouTube previews no longer have video length](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-previews-no-longer-have-video-length/955858)

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**Author:** [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-previews-no-longer-have-video-length/955858 "2021-12-10T22:02:15Z")

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I’d swear that they did this morning when I was watching stuff but they don’t now. There’s no way to know if you’re clicking on a :30 second or a 30 minute video now until the page begins to load and it displays in the …

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## [What bottled tea is closest to restaurant iced tea?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-bottled-tea-is-closest-to-restaurant-iced-tea/955789)

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**Author:** [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-bottled-tea-is-closest-to-restaurant-iced-tea/955789 "2021-12-10T21:36:52Z")

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All the restaurants we eat at have delicious crystal clear iced tea. That wasn’t always the case even 10 years ago. Which bottled tea do you find is closest to that tea? Looking for unsweetened tea I can add sweetener a…

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## [Life long Doctor Who fan - 20 dies from muscular dystrophy. Leaves in Tardis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-long-doctor-who-fan-20-dies-from-muscular-dystrophy-leaves-in-tardis/955832)

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**Author:** [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-long-doctor-who-fan-20-dies-from-muscular-dystrophy-leaves-in-tardis/955832 "2021-12-10T14:37:28Z")

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Young Doctor Who fan left this life in a Tardis. His short life was difficult and full of challenges. Muscular Dystrophy is a horrible disease. I’m glad Antony found something in life that gave him joy and entertainment…

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