# Cafe Society

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## [Your suggestions for touring Napa Valley](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-suggestions-for-touring-napa-valley/761141)

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**Author:** [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-suggestions-for-touring-napa-valley/761141 "2016-10-26T18:44:41Z")

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My wife and I are planning a trip to Napa Valley with another couple in October. My wife was inspired by the episode of The Big Bang Theory in which they ride on the Napa Valley Wine Train, since I’m a train buff, and sh…

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## [Shakespeare Co-Wrote 17 Plays, None with Oxford](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-co-wrote-17-plays-none-with-oxford/769747)

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**Author:** [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-co-wrote-17-plays-none-with-oxford/769747 "2016-10-26T15:57:04Z")

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The latest edition of the New Oxford Shakespeare will show that Shakespeare co-wrote 17 of 44 plays. 44 plays? Yes, he’s now credited with co-writing Arden of Faversham in 1592. In other breaking news, Christopher “Kit”…

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## [First reaction:  "The band  played on."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-reaction-the-band-played-on/769505)

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**Author:** [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Replies:** 47\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-reaction-the-band-played-on/769505 "2016-10-26T14:42:16Z")

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1 - Song 2 - Sequel to “The Boys in the Band” 3 - Whatchoo talkin’ about, dropzone? Don’t know how to create a poll and uninterested in learning how. Somebody punned off it in the Pit and I surprised myself by goi…

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## [Happy 90th Birthday to Chuck Berry!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-90th-birthday-to-chuck-berry/768942)

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**Author:** [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-90th-birthday-to-chuck-berry/768942 "2016-10-26T14:40:39Z")

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His contributions to early rock and roll music, and the subsequent rock revolution, cannot be downplayed. So have a “Johnny B. Good” Birthday.

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## [The Phantasm movies thread!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-phantasm-movies-thread/766324)

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**Author:** [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-phantasm-movies-thread/766324 "2016-10-26T11:00:37Z")

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Any old school horror movie fans here? I am one, and I am excited, EXCITED, about the new Phantasm movie! Phantasm: Ravager, the 5th and final movie in the 37 year old franchise, is due to be released on 7 October! I …

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## [Any knitters/crocheters want to volunteer to make goofy hats? \[UPDATE: Cancer is gone!\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-knitters-crocheters-want-to-volunteer-to-make-goofy-hats-update-cancer-is-gone/583401)

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**Author:** [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Replies:** 80\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-knitters-crocheters-want-to-volunteer-to-make-goofy-hats-update-cancer-is-gone/583401 "2016-10-26T09:30:09Z")

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My best friend’s little boy has brain cancer. He’s undergoing radiation and chemo and has lost all his hair. To make things more difficult, he also has autism so he’s having a hard time figuring things out; however, I’v…

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## [Defining the "oldies."  Has the time span for music becoming oldies increased?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defining-the-oldies-has-the-time-span-for-music-becoming-oldies-increased/769531)

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**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defining-the-oldies-has-the-time-span-for-music-becoming-oldies-increased/769531 "2016-10-26T06:04:37Z")

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I’m watching Selena and an interesting observation popped into my head. In the film a young Selena in 1981 is shown singing songs by Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens. That makes the songs she was singing about 23 years old…

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## [Russian "Whites" propaganda poster imagery question](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742)

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**Author:** [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742 "2016-10-26T04:37:32Z")

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While going to moving sales and antique stores looking for a small library card catalog for my lab I ended up buying an original ~1920 Russian Whites propaganda poster which is called Vozmezdie (Retribution). While I u…

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## [The real reason humans run the Federation...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-humans-run-the-federation/769529)

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**Author:** [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-humans-run-the-federation/769529 "2016-10-26T00:07:52Z")

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We’re insane! This series of posts had my wife and I in hysterics.

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## [Any guesses as to how this magic trick was done?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-guesses-as-to-how-this-magic-trick-was-done/769736)

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**Author:** [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-guesses-as-to-how-this-magic-trick-was-done/769736 "2016-10-25T23:45:42Z")

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Japanese magician makes a styrofoam cup and a lit cigarette float. Japanese Wizard Does Mind-Blowing Magic Tricks

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## [Random Recommended Book Lists are Useless to Me.  Please Dopers, Recommend Me a Book.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-recommended-book-lists-are-useless-to-me-please-dopers-recommend-me-a-book/769080)

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**Author:** [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-recommended-book-lists-are-useless-to-me-please-dopers-recommend-me-a-book/769080 "2016-10-25T23:04:52Z")

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I’ve been trying for a while to find books to read through Google, and the results have been disappointing to say the least. I recently called up a list of “25 Books that will Change Your Life”, for example, and of thos…

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## [All Wine Tastes Alike to Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-wine-tastes-alike-to-me/769288)

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**Author:** [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-wine-tastes-alike-to-me/769288 "2016-10-25T22:08:02Z")

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Okay, I’m in Eno, a wine bar on Michigan Avenue in Chicago, and I’m imbibing one of their half price happy hour wine flights as I type this. The three glass wine flight comes with a card citing fulsome descriptions of e…

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## [Never been a pasta fan.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-a-pasta-fan/769621)

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**Author:** [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-a-pasta-fan/769621 "2016-10-25T21:26:50Z")

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Not until I met my wife, that is. Pasta, being one of the easiest things to cook, is simply not a go to dish for me. I’d sooner make rice or potatoes or legumes than anything pasta related. But my wife has several pas…

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## [Class - Doctor Who spinoff (open spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-doctor-who-spinoff-open-spoilers/769608)

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**Author:** [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-doctor-who-spinoff-open-spoilers/769608 "2016-10-25T19:17:25Z")

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Wow, I guess this show is not airing in the US right now\*. What an absolutely horrible decision if they want it to be successful. It’s a Doctor Who spinoff and Doctor Who is pretty big right now, so I don’ t know why the…

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## [Only 3 Stooges Short w/ all 3 brothers and Larry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/only-3-stooges-short-w-all-3-brothers-and-larry/769428)

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**Author:** [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/only-3-stooges-short-w-all-3-brothers-and-larry/769428 "2016-10-25T18:35:52Z")

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After a series of strokes, Curly had recovered enough to play a bit part in one of the 3 Stooges shorts. The short Hold That Lion featured Moe, Larry and Shemp. Curly (with hair) played a train passenger. When Larry rem…

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## [SNL 22 Oct:  Tom Hanks and Lady Gaga - surprisingly good end to end](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-22-oct-tom-hanks-and-lady-gaga-surprisingly-good-end-to-end/769583)

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**Author:** [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-22-oct-tom-hanks-and-lady-gaga-surprisingly-good-end-to-end/769583 "2016-10-25T17:55:59Z")

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We DVR SNL. We blow through it, i.e., fast forward through bad monologues, off skits, and bad musical acts as needed, watch Weekend Update then keep going if we are feeling it. This SNL with Tom Hanks and Gaga we watc…

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## [Just another day on the farm in the Midwest](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-day-on-the-farm-in-the-midwest/769679)

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**Author:** [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-day-on-the-farm-in-the-midwest/769679 "2016-10-25T17:46:41Z")

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I hate it when people just give a link with no explanation. This is a guy playing the hammered dulcimer… but with a twist and a couple of guests. Give it a minute to get the audio sorted out.

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## [Miss Holmes - a gender-bending Sherlock Holmes play](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-holmes-a-gender-bending-sherlock-holmes-play/769694)

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**Author:** [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-holmes-a-gender-bending-sherlock-holmes-play/769694 "2016-10-25T17:00:22Z")

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Now showing at Lifeline Theatre in Chicago: http://www.lifelinetheatre.com/performances/16-17/missholmes/ Haven’t been, but a non-Doper friend just wrote me, “We saw it the other night, it was absolutely charming. There…

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## [Pop star Bobby Vee has died](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-star-bobby-vee-has-died/769653)

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**Author:** [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-star-bobby-vee-has-died/769653 "2016-10-25T16:41:25Z")

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Just saw this on the news. He helped Bob Dylan get his start.

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## [Anyone seen Roger Waters in concert?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-seen-roger-waters-in-concert/768471)

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**Author:** [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-seen-roger-waters-in-concert/768471 "2016-10-25T03:17:43Z")

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There was an announcement on Facebook about the Roger Waters Us and Them tour for next year. I’m considering going and I’ve been listening to Radio Kaos and The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking fairly often over the past few…

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## [Dead or Alive.  Um... He's dead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-or-alive-um-hes-dead/769617)

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**Author:** [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dead-or-alive-um-hes-dead/769617 "2016-10-25T00:43:17Z")

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Pete Burns of Dead or Alive died of cardiac arrest at the age of 57. A girlfriend back in the '80s loved Pete Burns and Dead or Alive.

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## [Steve Dillon Dies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-dillon-dies/769395)

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**Author:** [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-dillon-dies/769395 "2016-10-25T00:28:26Z")

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Well, that royally sucks. He was probably best known in the US for Preacher and Punisher, but I remember his early 80s 2000AD work on Dredd, Rogue Trooper and Mean Arena: The Law Loves You. Rest in peace, Steve, may all …

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## [The UK show "Black Mirror" is available on Netflix streaming. Holy Crap!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-show-black-mirror-is-available-on-netflix-streaming-holy-crap/706074)

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**Author:** [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Replies:** 225\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-show-black-mirror-is-available-on-netflix-streaming-holy-crap/706074 "2016-10-24T23:57:33Z")

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I just saw the first episode. It’s very disturbing, especially considering that such a thing is entirely possible in our new connected world. I won’t post any spoilers but I’ll warn that it’s not a family show, and it’s …

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## [The Voice Season 11 Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-voice-season-11-thread/766476)

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**Author:** [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-voice-season-11-thread/766476 "2016-10-24T23:34:19Z")

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There was a short 30 min preview after the Olympics finished. I think there were 3 auditions. They are on the Voice web site. The main 2 hour premier was Monday Sept 19. Recap Ep 1 I need to watch some of the perform…

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## [1981 movie "Roar" - This has to be the most insane film ever made!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1981-movie-roar-this-has-to-be-the-most-insane-film-ever-made/766068)

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**Author:** [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1981-movie-roar-this-has-to-be-the-most-insane-film-ever-made/766068 "2016-10-24T23:31:40Z")

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I get there are some weird films out there but asa tomato reviewer said The wiki entry is tame. You see the looks on the faces of the “actors” in the clips and there is true mortal panic in their eyes. Discussion clip…

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## [Bad Hombresc and Nasty Women -- Weird Al on the Debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hombresc-and-nasty-women-weird-al-on-the-debates/769607)

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**Author:** [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-hombresc-and-nasty-women-weird-al-on-the-debates/769607 "2016-10-24T22:39:15Z")

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## [Kesha sues top producer Dr. Luke - 10 years of abuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kesha-sues-top-producer-dr-luke-10-years-of-abuse/701410)

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**Author:** [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Replies:** 77\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kesha-sues-top-producer-dr-luke-10-years-of-abuse/701410 "2016-10-24T21:49:03Z")

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I assume Ponch8 will take over and drive this thread :wink: (which is fine by me). I just saw this - pretty heavy. Dr. Luke is one of the biggest producers of the past decade, working with a ton of top pop stars. …

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## [" We Have Always Lived In The Castle" ~ Shirley Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-always-lived-in-the-castle-shirley-jackson/769417)

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**Author:** [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-always-lived-in-the-castle-shirley-jackson/769417 "2016-10-24T21:44:07Z")

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\*\*\*\* Big Fat Spoiler Alert. Plot details will be discussed without limit.\*\*\*\* Somehow this one slipped by me for the first 54 years of my life. I’ve just finished my first read of it. I’m interested in talking about i…

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## [Please explain this aspect of the paleo diet](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-aspect-of-the-paleo-diet/769242)

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**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-aspect-of-the-paleo-diet/769242 "2016-10-24T21:04:55Z")

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Please let’s not devolve into if paleo is healthy or not or the whole “calories-in vs calories-out” debate. I just want to focus on this one aspect. According to Paleo, cheese is bad while fruit in moderation is good a…

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## [Most interesting depictions of a Human VS Alien interstellar war?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-interesting-depictions-of-a-human-vs-alien-interstellar-war/769282)

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**Author:** [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-interesting-depictions-of-a-human-vs-alien-interstellar-war/769282 "2016-10-24T21:04:42Z")

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Not alien invasions, although its fine if the conflict ends with an invasion, or destruction, of Earth. I don’t think spoilers are necessary as they are kind of a given in this sort of thread. Although I’ve never seen i…

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