# Great Debates **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/c/great-debates/13.md?page=267 [Latest](https://boards.straightdope.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://boards.straightdope.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://boards.straightdope.com/tags.md) **Page:** 268 --- ## [It is true Satanhas deceived the whole world.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-true-satanhas-deceived-the-whole-world/665848)
**Author:** [@Okieshowedem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okieshowedem)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 10, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-is-true-satanhas-deceived-the-whole-world/665848 "2013-08-10T03:15:19Z")
Satan Worship Enticing The Whole World My Dear Friends, You can read in the Inspired Scriptures that Satan has deceived the whole world, but it seems hard to believe such a thing until one actually takes a close look a… --- ## [Is Colin Powell borrowing what is probably his most famous quote?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-colin-powell-borrowing-what-is-probably-his-most-famous-quote/658855)
**Author:** [@wei\_ji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wei_ji)\ **Replies:** 29\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-colin-powell-borrowing-what-is-probably-his-most-famous-quote/658855 "2013-08-09T19:19:34Z")
Colin Powell, former U.S. Army general (four stars) and United States Secretary of State, is often quoted as making the following ringing quote (in differing forums, depending on the teller): “Over the years, the Unite… --- ## [The Nazis Were Funded by wall street](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364)
**Author:** [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Replies:** 195\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364 "2013-08-09T14:52:51Z")
Any thoughts on this? I read a book called wall street and the rise of hitler which detailed how the nazi war machine was funded by American banks like JP Morgan Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers. These bankers were very… --- ## [What year would you say the Internet was born?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-year-would-you-say-the-internet-was-born/659330)
**Author:** [@donnie\_darko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/donnie_darko)\ **Replies:** 69\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-year-would-you-say-the-internet-was-born/659330 "2013-08-09T11:59:43Z")
ARPANET was created in 1969, but personally I would say the “real” Internet was born in 1982/83 when the government moved ARPANET and their other networks over to TCP/IP protocol. The Web of course didn’t exist until th… --- ## [Am I a 'conspiracy nut' for mistrusting pop media coverage of Snowden?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-a-conspiracy-nut-for-mistrusting-pop-media-coverage-of-snowden/665018)
**Author:** [@dstarfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dstarfire)\ **Replies:** 27\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-a-conspiracy-nut-for-mistrusting-pop-media-coverage-of-snowden/665018 "2013-08-09T11:47:35Z")
Every story I see in mainstream media about Snowden seems to focus on ‘how was this person able to disclose so much information?’, and ‘Are officials lying about the effectiveness of the prism program?’, while ignoring t… --- ## [Ohio Holocaust Memorial](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-holocaust-memorial/665507)
**Author:** [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Replies:** 227\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-holocaust-memorial/665507 "2013-08-09T04:19:00Z")
The State of Ohio is planning to build a Holocaust Memorial on government property near its state house. Like most such memorials around the world, this one will include the Star of David. The Freedom from Religion Fou… --- ## [Nondisclosure agreements vs. the First Amendment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nondisclosure-agreements-vs-the-first-amendment/665616)
**Author:** [@lew\_cody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lew_cody)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nondisclosure-agreements-vs-the-first-amendment/665616 "2013-08-09T01:00:56Z")
This case involving a nondisclosure agreement brings up some (IMO) very troubling First Amendment issues: http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/children-given-gag-order-in-pennsylvania-fracking-suit-settlement-194638861… --- ## [British GVT Allow Pakistanis to Pimp Underage Girls](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-gvt-allow-pakistanis-to-pimp-underage-girls/665379)
**Author:** [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Replies:** 26\ **Last updated:** [August 8, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/british-gvt-allow-pakistanis-to-pimp-underage-girls/665379 "2013-08-08T13:58:33Z")
Shame on you Britons. Pakistani (Muslim) men running prostitution rings involving mostly white English and often underage girls as prostitutes. I came across this story watching European Journal on my local PBS statio… --- ## [Does Insurance have "Utility" if You Don't Use it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-insurance-have-utility-if-you-dont-use-it/665049)
**Author:** [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Replies:** 54\ **Last updated:** [August 8, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-insurance-have-utility-if-you-dont-use-it/665049 "2013-08-08T06:12:39Z")
I was arguing in favor of an Australian style National Health Care system for the U.S. My friend, a classical Ayn Rand libertarian, naturally disagreed. I mentioned that simply having insurance is good, even if you don… --- ## [A credible atheist](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-credible-atheist/664697)
**Author:** [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Replies:** 135\ **Last updated:** [August 8, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-credible-atheist/664697 "2013-08-08T02:40:39Z")
Forgive thread number eleventry trillion on religion and politics, but wanted some ideas on this topic. Watching a Sam Harris vid where he says that you could be a billionaire genius with the looks of George Clooney and… --- ## [The most important thing you need to know about the voter ID issue . . .](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-important-thing-you-need-to-know-about-the-voter-id-issue/664813)
**Author:** [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Replies:** 283\ **Last updated:** [August 8, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-important-thing-you-need-to-know-about-the-voter-id-issue/664813 "2013-08-08T00:41:49Z")
. . . is that using “voter fraud” to steal an election is virtually impossible. From The Voting Wars, by Richard Hasen: This is an amazingly even-handed book, BTW. No one could accuse Hasen (a law prof specializing i… --- ## [Athiest chaplain](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiest-chaplain/665109)
**Author:** [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Replies:** 119\ **Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiest-chaplain/665109 "2013-08-07T19:46:39Z")
So a well qualified athiest wants to be the first athiest chaplain. Congress wants to pass a law saying he can’t. This seems like a clear violation of the first amendment. Is there any counterargument that doesn’t vio… --- ## [Using information that is inadmissible to "construct" different evidence that is admissible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-information-that-is-inadmissible-to-construct-different-evidence-that-is-admissible/665423)
**Author:** [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-information-that-is-inadmissible-to-construct-different-evidence-that-is-admissible/665423 "2013-08-07T06:35:37Z")
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805 To summarize: DEA, NSA etc. collect all kinds of data on us that it is (questionably) legal to collect but is not admissible in court. But never… --- ## [Originalism and Textualism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/originalism-and-textualism/664724)
**Author:** [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Replies:** 60\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/originalism-and-textualism/664724 "2013-08-06T18:59:20Z")
Are you for or against a reading of the Constitution ground in the framers’ intent? One argument for originalism is that it eschews the problem of a slippery and changing Constitution. Change is inevitable, but not all … --- ## [Don't blame the parents - huh?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-blame-the-parents-huh/664146)
**Author:** [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-blame-the-parents-huh/664146 "2013-08-06T16:32:43Z")
Sad story about a two year old. This happened very close to home, and it’s a tragic story indeed. So many people are rallying for the parents (without waiting for the whole story to come out) and expressing sympathy, bu… --- ## [Which US state will legalize same sex marriage next?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-us-state-will-legalize-same-sex-marriage-next/665150)
**Author:** [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-us-state-will-legalize-same-sex-marriage-next/665150 "2013-08-06T10:14:23Z")
Yesterday, Minnesota became the latest US state to begin performing gay marriages. Good for them! I’m looking at A map of marriage laws in the US, and I was wondering which state(s) will be next. New Mexico has no laws … --- ## [Is it "impossible to settle" whether Christians are more or less right?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-impossible-to-settle-whether-christians-are-more-or-less-right/664975)
**Author:** [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Replies:** 49\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-impossible-to-settle-whether-christians-are-more-or-less-right/664975 "2013-08-06T06:26:22Z")
This is a tangent from the “atheist president” thread. I initially titled it “…whether God exists” but I didn’t want to get into issues of a deist God who sets the clockwork in motion and then withdraws. So I’m talking… --- ## [Does the US support \`moderate Islam\` and/or moderate Islamic governments? A lot of people hate USA](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743)
**Author:** [@SC2Maar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC2Maar)\ **Replies:** 23\ **Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-us-support-moderate-islam-and-or-moderate-islamic-governments-a-lot-of-people-hate-usa/663743 "2013-08-05T20:17:00Z")
My title was too long: Does the US supports moderate Islam and/or moderate Islamic governments? A lot of people hate USA for this reason. Hello, :slight\_smile: I’ll try to be as simple and clear as possible. Let’s tak… --- ## [Are City Central Business Districts (CBD) Doomed?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-city-central-business-districts-cbd-doomed/664721)
**Author:** [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Replies:** 41\ **Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-city-central-business-districts-cbd-doomed/664721 "2013-08-05T12:44:50Z")
I haven’t found a comprehensive discussion anywhere on the net so here’s hoping Dopers can contribute some thoughts. It seems to me that the CBDs of cities in developed nations are failing. Partly it is the age of the b… --- ## [Full-time, minimum-wage jobs?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/full-time-minimum-wage-jobs/665071)
**Author:** [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [August 4, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/full-time-minimum-wage-jobs/665071 "2013-08-04T19:43:02Z")
I put this in GD, 'cause I figure it’ll either end up here or in the Pit. Lately, whenever the subject of minimum wage or healthcare comes up, there’s a fairly predictable inrush of people who claim that employers (espe… --- ## [Aborting the children of male rape victims](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborting-the-children-of-male-rape-victims/661755)
**Author:** [@Teddy\_Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teddy_Kennedy)\ **Replies:** 213\ **Last updated:** [August 4, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborting-the-children-of-male-rape-victims/661755 "2013-08-04T12:34:56Z")
Should female rapists be allowed to terminate the children of men they rape, in situations where the man wants to keep and raise his child? --- ## [Why not develop a health insurance plan based on the lowest cost interventions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-develop-a-health-insurance-plan-based-on-the-lowest-cost-interventions/664446)
**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 4, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-develop-a-health-insurance-plan-based-on-the-lowest-cost-interventions/664446 "2013-08-04T02:03:38Z")
Reading up on health care I notice that prices for the same procedure can vary drastically based on where you go, both nationwide and within a locality. http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/05/08/hosp… --- ## [What realistic state level health reform could be coming down the pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-realistic-state-level-health-reform-could-be-coming-down-the-pike/665041)
**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [August 4, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-realistic-state-level-health-reform-could-be-coming-down-the-pike/665041 "2013-08-04T00:28:37Z")
Health reform on the national level seem unrealistic. In between the partisan gridlock, the iron grip of the plutocrats and the ideological rigidity I don’t see much happening. The ACA is just a starting point, but even … --- ## [When school vouchers and NIMBYism collide](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-school-vouchers-and-nimbyism-collide/665027)
**Author:** [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-school-vouchers-and-nimbyism-collide/665027 "2013-08-03T23:57:34Z")
I heard this story on NPR’s “Here and Now” this afternoon. Summary: Students in a low-performing school district want to take advantage of the state’s “school choice” law, which allows them to attend a better school in… --- ## [Could WWII have settled down into a cold war standoff?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-wwii-have-settled-down-into-a-cold-war-standoff/665052)
**Author:** [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Replies:** 38\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-wwii-have-settled-down-into-a-cold-war-standoff/665052 "2013-08-03T14:25:16Z")
I am thinking mainly of the European theatre here. I thought there might have already been such a thread, but this was the closest I have found. My scenario is a little different: instead of necessarily making peace wi… --- ## [SYG laws Post-Zimmerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syg-laws-post-zimmerman/663459)
**Author:** [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Replies:** 335\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syg-laws-post-zimmerman/663459 "2013-08-03T03:25:55Z")
Do you believe that the Zimmerman’s verdict will lead to a proliferation of SYG laws? --- ## [Michael Lind vs. the Libertarians](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-lind-vs-the-libertarians/663863)
**Author:** [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Replies:** 157\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-lind-vs-the-libertarians/663863 "2013-08-03T03:17:57Z")
For some reason only Free Men can understand there has been a proliferation of Objectivist- and Libertarian-related threads on the Dope recently . . . So I thought I’d recap this little global-thermonuclear kerfuffle tha… --- ## [Is Biblical literalism really a recent phenomenon?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biblical-literalism-really-a-recent-phenomenon/663746)
**Author:** [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Replies:** 348\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biblical-literalism-really-a-recent-phenomenon/663746 "2013-08-03T01:25:45Z")
I’ve seen it mentioned (by non-literalist Christians) that taking Bible stories as literally true is a recent phenomenon and was not the norm prior to the last hundred years or so. I’m sure there are exceptions but when … --- ## [Fired employee to file lawsuit against Zimmerman prosecutors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-employee-to-file-lawsuit-against-zimmerman-prosecutors/663725)
**Author:** [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Replies:** 45\ **Last updated:** [August 2, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-employee-to-file-lawsuit-against-zimmerman-prosecutors/663725 "2013-08-02T19:01:19Z")
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-fired-employee-file-lawsuit-against-zimmerman-prosecutors-234312305.html Ben Kruidbos, Corey’s former director of information technology, was fired after testifying at a pre-trial hearing… --- ## [Excluded Evidence in a Civil Trial \[Zimmerman case\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excluded-evidence-in-a-civil-trial-zimmerman-case/664953)
**Author:** [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Replies:** 41\ **Last updated:** [August 2, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/excluded-evidence-in-a-civil-trial-zimmerman-case/664953 "2013-08-02T15:44:48Z")
According to George Zimmerman’s brother: Is this claim correct? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/great-debates/13.md?page=266) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/great-debates/13.md?page=268)