# Great Debates

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## [If Jimmy Carter was re-elected for a second term....](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jimmy-carter-was-re-elected-for-a-second-term/816918)

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**Author:** [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-jimmy-carter-was-re-elected-for-a-second-term/816918 "2018-06-28T18:56:00Z")

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What would the ramifications have been for the United States and the rest of the world? I remember the hostage crisis and the wavering stance the United States appeared to have. Classified documents years later showed t…

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## [Proposed California law to restrict use of deadly force by law enforcement](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-california-law-to-restrict-use-of-deadly-force-by-law-enforcement/816437)

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**Author:** [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Replies:** 154\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-california-law-to-restrict-use-of-deadly-force-by-law-enforcement/816437 "2018-06-28T18:51:01Z")

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From the Sacramento Bee I think it fortunate for California police officers that this bill stands little to no chance of passing. I wouldn’t want to be a cop in that state if it did. But I’m open to persuasion. Is ther…

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## [Standards of beauty: Innate vs Cultural](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/standards-of-beauty-innate-vs-cultural/816380)

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**Author:** [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Replies:** 63\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/standards-of-beauty-innate-vs-cultural/816380 "2018-06-28T12:58:07Z")

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Over yonder in the Incel thread, we seem to have come into an interesting side discussion about physical attraction. To wit: Is beauty a human construct, and to what degree? It kinda sorta went like this: So we’re…

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## [Travel ban:  Oh for two](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/travel-ban-oh-for-two/782281)

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**Author:** [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Replies:** 282\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/travel-ban-oh-for-two/782281 "2018-06-28T06:22:16Z")

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Sorry Donny…no travel ban for you… http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/politics/travel-ban-blocked/index.html I actually caught the first few seconds of the video before I paused it. I laughed out loud when I saw the headli…

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## [Unions fear SCOTUS could destroy them...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unions-fear-scotus-could-destroy-them/691916)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 100\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unions-fear-scotus-could-destroy-them/691916 "2018-06-27T18:22:55Z")

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So they say via a liberal blog, in re: Harris v. Quinn, a case that’s expected to be ruled on in two days (I figure it’s good timing, since this could also serve as a discussion of the ruling when it’s finally handed dow…

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## [We Stop Emitting CO2, Methane, Other Greenhouse Gases Tomorrow - Now What?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-stop-emitting-co2-methane-other-greenhouse-gases-tomorrow-now-what/805530)

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**Author:** [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Replies:** 69\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-stop-emitting-co2-methane-other-greenhouse-gases-tomorrow-now-what/805530 "2018-06-27T17:18:43Z")

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Let’s say that, somehow or another, all man-made greenhouse emissions stop on a dime tomorrow. What happens then? Are we collectively too far gone w/r/t climate change to make a difference? How long would it take for th…

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## [Is the country as a person/household a useful analogy regarding immigration?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-country-as-a-person-household-a-useful-analogy-regarding-immigration/816767)

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**Author:** [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-country-as-a-person-household-a-useful-analogy-regarding-immigration/816767 "2018-06-27T03:44:39Z")

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With regard to immigration, I’ve heard people comparing the government barring immigrants/refugees into the country with a homeowner locking his door or building a fence around his property. I think this analogy resonat…

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## [The law DOES require them to separate children from their families](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-law-does-require-them-to-separate-children-from-their-families/816339)

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**Author:** [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Replies:** 205\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-law-does-require-them-to-separate-children-from-their-families/816339 "2018-06-27T02:40:47Z")

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Generally, I support the honesty of the media, and in a sense they are not lying on this topic, but for the most part they are. The Trump administration does not have to PROSECUTE people who have crossed into the count…

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## [Judge orders Colorado baker to serve gay couples](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-orders-colorado-baker-to-serve-gay-couples/675792)

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**Author:** [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\
**Replies:** 1356\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-orders-colorado-baker-to-serve-gay-couples/675792 "2018-06-26T22:10:05Z")

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Exactly what is the law that forces this kind of compliance? Clearly the baker is an asshole, but why do we not let the marketplace determine what businesses survive when they do stupid shit? This isn’t the first case …

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## [Should the democrats distance themselves from Hollywood?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268)

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**Author:** [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Replies:** 93\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268 "2018-06-26T16:41:49Z")

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In the light of Robert Denirr’s anti-Trump rant actor/activist Rob Reiner has gone on record saying such acts basically hand the country over to Trump. or as he puts it “There’s a very fine line between energizing the ba…

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## [The Carpenter Decision: SCOTUS rules against awl-encompassing gov't surveillance](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-carpenter-decision-scotus-rules-against-awl-encompassing-govt-surveillance/816606)

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**Author:** [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Replies:** 62\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-carpenter-decision-scotus-rules-against-awl-encompassing-govt-surveillance/816606 "2018-06-26T11:07:00Z")

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No thread for this? The Supreme Court handed down what was (at least in my mind) the most-awaited decision of the term, Carpenter v US. The issue: without a warrant, the government was provided records from Timothy Car…

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## [The infantilizing of women](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-infantilizing-of-women/816519)

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**Author:** [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Replies:** 103\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-infantilizing-of-women/816519 "2018-06-25T23:41:20Z")

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Resolved: That certain aspects of the MeToo movement infantilize women. Notice that this was a consensual relationship. Some people claim that there is no such thing as “consent” when there is a power imbalance. …

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## [Since Ho Chi Minh mass-murdered in 1956 --how unethical was it really for the US to stop him?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ho-chi-minh-mass-murdered-in-1956-how-unethical-was-it-really-for-the-us-to-stop-him/815222)

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**Author:** [@ned12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ned12)\
**Replies:** 74\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/since-ho-chi-minh-mass-murdered-in-1956-how-unethical-was-it-really-for-the-us-to-stop-him/815222 "2018-06-25T21:15:23Z")

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Stop him from taking South Vietnam that is. In 1956 Ho committed a brutal North Vietnam land reform where many thousands of landlords were brutally killed. Then a huge revolt caused by this land reform and Ho forces squa…

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## [Log Cabin Republicans-Are they effective, or are they a joke?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332 "2018-06-25T20:44:22Z")

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Within the Republican Party, does anyone not already a member of Log Cabin Republicans think they have any effect, or are they considered to be a group only tolerated for public relations purposes? The following paragra…

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## [Would you still believe if the reward was Hell?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-still-believe-if-the-reward-was-hell/816275)

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**Author:** [@nate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nate)\
**Replies:** 79\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-still-believe-if-the-reward-was-hell/816275 "2018-06-25T11:37:29Z")

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I was raised in as a Southern Baptist and was taught that the only way to get into heaven was to accept Jesus into your heart. That’s the only requirement and it can be done just by thinking of a string of words in the c…

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## [Supreme Court allows states & cities to collect taxes on internet sellers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-allows-states-cities-to-collect-taxes-on-internet-sellers/816551)

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**Author:** [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Replies:** 33\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-allows-states-cities-to-collect-taxes-on-internet-sellers/816551 "2018-06-25T02:01:53Z")

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This might actually be something that I agree with Trump on. I understand the argument that it’s the internet and that it’s tax free commerce helped it grow into a commerce platform, but now it’s competing with brick-and…

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## [This world as a hologram or an illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-world-as-a-hologram-or-an-illusion/816312)

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**Author:** [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [June 24, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-world-as-a-hologram-or-an-illusion/816312 "2018-06-24T17:59:48Z")

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More and more I’m believing that this material realm is something akin to a hologram, dream, or illusion. When I say “illusion,” I don’t mean that this world does not exist, but rather the material realm is not the funda…

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## [I was Wrong About the GPS, but ...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-about-the-gps-but/610402)

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**Author:** [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Replies:** 119\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-about-the-gps-but/610402 "2018-06-23T13:55:38Z")

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…right about the mosaic. Today the Supreme Court release their ruling in Jones v. US, about the placement of a GPS on a car without a warrant. I argued in several eariler threads that this was perfectly permissible und…

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## [The Magna Carta.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-magna-carta/816335)

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**Author:** [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-magna-carta/816335 "2018-06-23T03:23:04Z")

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Something I have wondered for some time now. Is the Magna Carta, signed by King John June 15, 1215 at Runnymede, really the foundation of rights, in all English-speaking nations? I actually was discussing this this very…

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## [How many transplantable organs are wasted each year?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-transplantable-organs-are-wasted-each-year/744267)

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**Author:** [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Replies:** 56\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-transplantable-organs-are-wasted-each-year/744267 "2018-06-23T00:13:35Z")

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Some people explicitly elect not to donate their organs. OK, fine, it’s your body. Some people explicitly elect to do so; they’ve got a card in their wallets, and they’ve informed their friends/family. If they die in …

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## [A possible reason why the Mexican, etc. families are being separated (warning: disturbing content)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-reason-why-the-mexican-etc-families-are-being-separated-warning-disturbing-content/816482)

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**Author:** [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Replies:** 50\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-reason-why-the-mexican-etc-families-are-being-separated-warning-disturbing-content/816482 "2018-06-23T00:02:03Z")

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Some people on another board have posted links, etc. about how some evangelical Christians have adopted children, not because they wanted to parent them, but to increase the numbers of, if you will, butts in the pews. …

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## [Impact of Trump's Executive Order to Stop Splitting Up Families](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impact-of-trumps-executive-order-to-stop-splitting-up-families/816476)

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**Author:** [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Replies:** 209\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impact-of-trumps-executive-order-to-stop-splitting-up-families/816476 "2018-06-22T19:24:56Z")

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Trump signed an order today reversing an earlier administration policy to split up families and create child camps. Note that the 1997 ruling is not the only court ruling that has precedence here. Here is Trump’s ord…

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## [How does the children concentration camps compare to the Japanese camps?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-the-children-concentration-camps-compare-to-the-japanese-camps/816289)

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**Author:** [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
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**Last updated:** [June 22, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-the-children-concentration-camps-compare-to-the-japanese-camps/816289 "2018-06-22T18:49:47Z")

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From what I know about the japanese camps, they were stacked ontop of each other in small buildings out west with no air conditioning and forced to stay. However they did get to bring their whole family. The children co…

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## [What’s the difference between being devoutly religious and delusional?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-difference-between-being-devoutly-religious-and-delusional/815833)

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**Author:** [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Replies:** 109\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-difference-between-being-devoutly-religious-and-delusional/815833 "2018-06-22T17:21:07Z")

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I happened to catch part of “Evan Almighty” on TV yesterday. In it, God appears to Evan and commands him to build an Ark. Naturally, God is invisible to everyone else. So, because his wife and family love him, they go a…

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## [catch and ankle bracelet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-and-ankle-bracelet/816475)

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**Author:** [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-and-ankle-bracelet/816475 "2018-06-21T16:57:54Z")

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The recent ruckus and Trump’s executive order today has drawn attention to “catch and release” vs “catch and detain”. But what about “catch and ankle bracelet”? Instead of detaining someone caught trying to enter the US …

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## [Book "Worst president in history: The legacy of barack Obama" revised](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/book-worst-president-in-history-the-legacy-of-barack-obama-revised/816465)

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**Author:** [@ned12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ned12)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/book-worst-president-in-history-the-legacy-of-barack-obama-revised/816465 "2018-06-20T22:29:36Z")

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It is coming out on Amazon in July of this year talking about such things as his Mexican gun-smuggling.

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## [Proof (CRTV ep 92) shows Obama split families at border as well](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-crtv-ep-92-shows-obama-split-families-at-border-as-well/816470)

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**Author:** [@ned12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ned12)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-crtv-ep-92-shows-obama-split-families-at-border-as-well/816470 "2018-06-20T22:27:11Z")

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But in smaller numbers than Trump did. "CRTV ep 92"is on video --find it at google. Debate: how do you handle the evidence?

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## [Demoting Earth to non-planet status (along with Mars, Venus, Mercury and Pluto)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demoting-earth-to-non-planet-status-along-with-mars-venus-mercury-and-pluto/815062)

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**Author:** [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demoting-earth-to-non-planet-status-along-with-mars-venus-mercury-and-pluto/815062 "2018-06-20T17:45:09Z")

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The whole demoting Pluto thing is not talking about the elephant in the room that the rocky planets are likewise inadequate compared to the likes of the gas/ice giants which are mini systems of their own with moons and r…

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## [With 20/20 hindsight how should we have responded to the 9/11 attacks.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-20-20-hindsight-how-should-we-have-responded-to-the-9-11-attacks/816395)

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**Author:** [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Replies:** 46\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-20-20-hindsight-how-should-we-have-responded-to-the-9-11-attacks/816395 "2018-06-20T17:32:31Z")

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Suppose on September 12, 2001 you suddenly occupied the mind of GWB, you have all of the foreknowledge of upcoming events\*. How do you respond to the attacks. Obviously going into Iraq was a mistake. But what about Af…

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## [Incels, terrorism, and preventative measures](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incels-terrorism-and-preventative-measures/816002)

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**Author:** [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Replies:** 292\
**Last updated:** [June 19, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incels-terrorism-and-preventative-measures/816002 "2018-06-19T16:38:08Z")

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There’s been conversation elsewhere about the Incel movement (“involuntary celibates”). Distinct from just any old sexually frustrated person, incels tend heavily toward the misogynistic and violent fantasist, with sever…

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