# Politics & Elections

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## [George Conway and other conservatives launch super PAC to take down Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-conway-and-other-conservatives-launch-super-pac-to-take-down-trump/845005)

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**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [December 21, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-conway-and-other-conservatives-launch-super-pac-to-take-down-trump/845005 "2019-12-21T00:26:19Z")

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You have to wonder how much longer he will be married.

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## [Trump is the first president impeached in his first term.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-first-president-impeached-in-his-first-term/845064)

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**Author:** [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [December 20, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-the-first-president-impeached-in-his-first-term/845064 "2019-12-20T21:35:58Z")

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For once he’s gotten something in his life that he actually earned. I don’t know what if any consequences this will actually have. But I know that if Trump hates it, then it’s the right thing to do. And judging by hi…

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## [Trump on impeachment: 2008](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-impeachment-2008/845116)

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**Author:** [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 20, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-on-impeachment-2008/845116 "2019-12-20T20:03:34Z")

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According to the editorial in today’s NY Times, in 2008, Trump argued that

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## [Matt Shea](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-shea/838674)

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**Author:** [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Replies:** 78\
**Last updated:** [December 20, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-shea/838674 "2019-12-20T18:40:27Z")

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My state representative Matt Shea is back in the news (ironically however, not in the local paper) again. I’m cringing while I await the Crusades, Part Deux.

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## [Do you think Trump will win in 2020?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-trump-will-win-in-2020/835728)

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**Author:** [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Replies:** 856\
**Last updated:** [December 19, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-think-trump-will-win-in-2020/835728 "2019-12-19T20:11:49Z")

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For a fun walk down memory lane, refer to this poll from July 2016 in which 82% of responders predicted Clinton winning the election. A few comments from that thread: \[ul\] \[li\]Hillary in a landslide.\[/li\]\[li\]It is goi…

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## [U.K. General Election December 2019](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-k-general-election-december-2019/842639)

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**Author:** [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Replies:** 296\
**Last updated:** [December 19, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-k-general-election-december-2019/842639 "2019-12-19T20:05:11Z")

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Well, it looks like it’s a done deal since Corbyn has agreed to back a general election in December. I’m disappointed but not surprised. Corbyn has always been a leaver at heart. It’s far too early for predictions and L…

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## [Democratic voters, what would you want accomplished in the event of a 2020 victory?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-voters-what-would-you-want-accomplished-in-the-event-of-a-2020-victory/844068)

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**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Replies:** 54\
**Last updated:** [December 19, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-voters-what-would-you-want-accomplished-in-the-event-of-a-2020-victory/844068 "2019-12-19T15:53:41Z")

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For those of you who plan to vote Democratic in 2020, what do you hope will be accomplished in the event of a victory? I’ll outline two scenarios and then my wish list. Let’s try to keep it to things that are at least …

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## [Impeachment and the Just World Fallacy.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-and-the-just-world-fallacy/844750)

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**Author:** [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [December 19, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-and-the-just-world-fallacy/844750 "2019-12-19T04:52:41Z")

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I call it the ‘just world fallacy’. But one way or another, people just accept things the way they are. They think they are inevitable or just as well. Status Quo is another name for it. In fact I’ll bet at this point in…

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## [Middle America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-america/844823)

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**Author:** [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Replies:** 65\
**Last updated:** [December 18, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-america/844823 "2019-12-18T20:49:30Z")

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The term “Middle America” has been used for decades to describe “flyover America, Heartland America”, voters and people, predominately white Americans who have moderate views that swing to Republican, Democratic, or Inde…

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## [Obama attacking Biden ?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attacking-biden/844977)

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**Author:** [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [December 18, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-attacking-biden/844977 "2019-12-18T19:55:13Z")

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This BBC article reports Obama’s comments while in Singapore. Among them was this: It’s hard to avoid a sense that this is aimed at Biden.

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## [Presidents and sports](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104)

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**Author:** [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Replies:** 33\
**Last updated:** [December 18, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104 "2019-12-18T07:59:54Z")

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Donald Trump probably became the first president to wade into cultural tensions with sports, particularly the National Basketball Association (NBA), arguably the world’s largest sport next to international soccer. The b…

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## [Why do people think Biden's the candidate who can win in the Midwest?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-think-bidens-the-candidate-who-can-win-in-the-midwest/844890)

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**Author:** [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [December 17, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-think-bidens-the-candidate-who-can-win-in-the-midwest/844890 "2019-12-17T18:20:46Z")

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Per 538, here are Biden’s current primary polling averages in Midwestern states and Pennsylvania: PA: 28.0% OH: 28.4% MI: 29.1% WI: 23.1% IA: 19.7% Yeah I know, this is the primary, that’s the general. But still: …

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## [DNC declines to relax rules for December debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-declines-to-relax-rules-for-december-debates/844917)

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**Author:** [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-declines-to-relax-rules-for-december-debates/844917 "2019-12-16T22:03:53Z")

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There was some handwringing when kamala Harris dropped out of the race and there would no longer be a black candidate. I like Cory Booker and I am surprised he hasn’t caught fire. In my opinion he is better than Buti…

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## [Democrat Jaime Harrison within 2 point margin of Lindsay Graham in SC Senate poll (47-45)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-jaime-harrison-within-2-point-margin-of-lindsay-graham-in-sc-senate-poll-47-45/844905)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-jaime-harrison-within-2-point-margin-of-lindsay-graham-in-sc-senate-poll-47-45/844905 "2019-12-16T03:34:21Z")

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This is good news. if both McConnell and Graham lose their elections in 2020 to McGrath and Harrison respectively (not likely, but a boy can dream), that would be a wonderful thing.

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## [Supreme court to  rule on Trump keeping financial docs from Congress and NY State](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-to-rule-on-trump-keeping-financial-docs-from-congress-and-ny-state/844826)

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**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-to-rule-on-trump-keeping-financial-docs-from-congress-and-ny-state/844826 "2019-12-15T03:45:13Z")

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Arguments in March decision likely in June. I guess it comes down to how Roberts vote.

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## [Those impeachment articles are weak, dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647)

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**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Replies:** 124\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/those-impeachment-articles-are-weak-dude/844647 "2019-12-14T19:13:13Z")

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Abuse of power and obstruction of justice? Even the Clinton impeachment articles were more specific than that. What President doesn’t abuse his power or obstruct justice? They should have waited until they had something …

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## [Democratic primary poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-primary-poll/844493)

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**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Replies:** 82\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-primary-poll/844493 "2019-12-13T14:02:05Z")

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Since I’ve dropped back in, I’m interested in where the SDMB community is right now on this race.

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## [2019 British General Election (Poll)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-british-general-election-poll/844685)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Replies:** 53\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-british-general-election-poll/844685 "2019-12-13T13:16:50Z")

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Time to vote. (Wonderful… there is no way to edit “Labout.” Can a Mod help?)

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## [The stampede to, and then from, single payer](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stampede-to-and-then-from-single-payer/844553)

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**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2019, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stampede-to-and-then-from-single-payer/844553 "2019-12-13T06:13:20Z")

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In the end, the only politicians that demonstrated that they actually had principles were Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. The rest of them were all for single payer and then when that didn’t work out for them began to be…

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## [Trump triumphs over impeachment hearing and is re-elected.  Will they try again?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-triumphs-over-impeachment-hearing-and-is-re-elected-will-they-try-again/844674)

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**Author:** [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2019, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-triumphs-over-impeachment-hearing-and-is-re-elected-will-they-try-again/844674 "2019-12-12T05:00:20Z")

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The title pretty much says it all. The articles of impeachment are presented to the senate and are in all likelihood shot down. Trump is then re-elected in 2020 buoyed by this validation and other yada-yada-yada. What…

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## ["Obama Said He Would Speak Up To Stop Bernie Sanders Nomination: Report"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045)

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**Author:** [@Linden\_Arden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linden_Arden)\
**Replies:** 56\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045 "2019-12-11T21:23:38Z")

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## [Is Mike Pence less likely to win election than Trump? Would he be a worse President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mike-pence-less-likely-to-win-election-than-trump-would-he-be-a-worse-president/844457)

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**Author:** [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Replies:** 39\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mike-pence-less-likely-to-win-election-than-trump-would-he-be-a-worse-president/844457 "2019-12-11T15:39:25Z")

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This might seem like it belongs in the Pit, but there are scenarios (death, resignation, GOP fatigue with their leader’s criminality) that could lead to Mike Pence being the GOP nominee in 2020. George Will calls Mike P…

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## [What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738)

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**Author:** [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Replies:** 929\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738 "2019-12-11T11:40:52Z")

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According to experts, the Trump administration is running concentration camps at the border. Numerous independent reports (example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4) including ones from DHS document the horrific conditi…

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## [Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events/844682)

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**Author:** [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
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**Last updated:** [December 11, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events/844682 "2019-12-11T03:22:47Z")

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https://readsludge.com/2019/12/09/he...ete-buttigieg/ He also says he will not stop taking money from billionaires or corporations. https://twitter.com/amiraminimd/stat...131172869?s=21 Here is his response to not let…

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## [Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events/844676)

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**Author:** [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
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**Last updated:** [December 11, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events/844676 "2019-12-11T02:13:07Z")

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https://readsludge.com/2019/12/09/he...ete-buttigieg/ He also says he will not stop taking money from billionaires or corporations. https://twitter.com/amiraminimd/stat...131172869?s=21 Here is his response to not let…

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## [Is Clinton going to save the day (or at least the 2020 election) for the dems?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-clinton-going-to-save-the-day-or-at-least-the-2020-election-for-the-dems/844662)

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**Author:** [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-clinton-going-to-save-the-day-or-at-least-the-2020-election-for-the-dems/844662 "2019-12-10T20:22:13Z")

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Daily Mail - New poll shows Hillary Clinton in first place among Democratic candidates days after former secretary of state refused to rule out last-minute entry into presidential race It seems like she has not given u…

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## [What do you think of Hillary's smack down of Sanders?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-hillarys-smack-down-of-sanders/844427)

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**Author:** [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Replies:** 109\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-hillarys-smack-down-of-sanders/844427 "2019-12-10T08:01:42Z")

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Based on this CNN article. Apparently Hillary did an interview with Howard Stern (I didn’t realize he was still enough of a thing to get the likes of Clinton to come on his show to do interviews) in which she either tol…

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## [Is Kamala Harris the most disappointing candidate ever?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-most-disappointing-candidate-ever/844296)

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**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Replies:** 81\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2019, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-most-disappointing-candidate-ever/844296 "2019-12-10T06:26:04Z")

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In terms of her hype compared to her performance, I’d have to argue yes. Some candidates have been frontrunners and had a single stupid act derail them(Gary Hart). Others were hyped but it became evident that their party…

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## [Null Hypothesis = Democrats are wrong, Why is that?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/null-hypothesis-democrats-are-wrong-why-is-that/844148)

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**Author:** [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Replies:** 66\
**Last updated:** [December 8, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/null-hypothesis-democrats-are-wrong-why-is-that/844148 "2019-12-08T18:39:59Z")

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When reading these boards, and looking at American attitudes in general, there seems to be this idea that Democrats are “wrong” and need to earn votes. When something bad happens in politics, it always seems to be the f…

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## [legal questions on Dems spying on Giuliani](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-questions-on-dems-spying-on-giuliani/844355)

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**Author:** [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [December 7, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-questions-on-dems-spying-on-giuliani/844355 "2019-12-07T02:55:36Z")

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Giuliani is Trump’s personal attorney, and the Democrats revealed they obtained some of Giuliani’s phone records in the recent Impeachment Inquiry Report. Some questions: Did they need a warrant? Did they have a warran…

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