# Politics & Elections

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## [What the hell is going on with the Louisiana senate race?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-the-louisiana-senate-race/771205)

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**Author:** [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-the-louisiana-senate-race/771205 "2016-11-14T20:12:14Z")

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What with the country’s biggest blowhard running against the country’s most-hated woman for President, and the first real chance in a generation to rid itself of the biggest blowhard in the county, I haven’t really been …

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## [The future of political polling?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-political-polling/771150)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 74\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-political-polling/771150 "2016-11-14T20:06:51Z")

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Because 2012 had the “skewed polls” meme, I think that made a lot of people and institutions skeptical about not believing polls this time around, and we see the result. But even then, I can’t imagine that the Democratic…

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## [Is Trump just the beginning of a resurgence of white nationalism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-just-the-beginning-of-a-resurgence-of-white-nationalism/771901)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-just-the-beginning-of-a-resurgence-of-white-nationalism/771901 "2016-11-14T17:43:02Z")

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Trump and the GOP seem like they are curtailing some of their promises. The wall, repealing the ACA, deportation forces, etc. Either the executive or GOP legislature is walking back some of these promises. However they h…

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## [final election tallies - when available?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/final-election-tallies-when-available/771964)

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**Author:** [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/final-election-tallies-when-available/771964 "2016-11-14T15:38:54Z")

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My question is two fold - fairly straight forward really - The CNN, FoxNewsand Google election results still show 290/228 EC with Michigan/NH outstanding and a roughly 600k delta with Clinton winning the popular vote. …

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## [Obama should Pardon Hillary.... And Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-should-pardon-hillary-and-trump/771666)

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**Author:** [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-should-pardon-hillary-and-trump/771666 "2016-11-14T13:07:33Z")

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So, after the 2008 election, there were quite a number on the left who wanted to see Bush and co. held to account for their actions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo… pretty much everything that they could be nailed with. …

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## [Lesson of this election: we need stronger party elites](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesson-of-this-election-we-need-stronger-party-elites/771326)

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**Author:** [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Replies:** 38\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesson-of-this-election-we-need-stronger-party-elites/771326 "2016-11-14T07:58:51Z")

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Some of you may recall that I was singing this tune during the primaries, out of frustration with the Bernie Sanders campaign. But Ezra Klein on Vox points out a much deeper danger to weak party elites than I saw then. …

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## [\* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947)

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**Author:** [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Replies:** 1826\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-14T06:27:22Z")

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I wanted to make this thread tomorrow, but I will be working at the polls starting at 6AM. It’s going to be a long 16 hour day for me, but I will have frequent breaks, so I can check in here to see how things are going. …

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## [The Agony of Paul Ryan:  It's going to be a looooong five month, Paul](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390)

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**Author:** [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Replies:** 152\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390 "2016-11-14T02:24:10Z")

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So, here’s the timeline for Paul Ryan’s dance with Donald Trump: December 8, 2015: Speaker Paul Ryan Condemns Donald Trump’s Ban on Muslims March 1: Paul Ryan states that anyone who wants the GOP nomination has to be…

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## [So, Hillary is ahead in the popular vote - any chance to finally reform the electoral college?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-hillary-is-ahead-in-the-popular-vote-any-chance-to-finally-reform-the-electoral-college/771226)

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**Author:** [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Replies:** 82\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-hillary-is-ahead-in-the-popular-vote-any-chance-to-finally-reform-the-electoral-college/771226 "2016-11-13T21:47:54Z")

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As of this morning, Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by about 175,000. Is there any hope that this will finally create some serious pressure to reform/do away with the electoral college? Sadly, I don’t see how thos…

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## [Private Email Servers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-email-servers/771845)

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**Author:** [@MidgardTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidgardTree)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-email-servers/771845 "2016-11-13T16:42:09Z")

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Much has been said about Clinton’s use of a private email server. After the investigation, it was determined that what she did was wrong, but not prosecutable. My understanding is that she was advised by Colin Powell, wh…

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## [What happens to the Trump Organization now?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-trump-organization-now/771248)

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**Author:** [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Replies:** 38\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-trump-organization-now/771248 "2016-11-13T12:23:00Z")

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Can the POTUS legally run a private company while he is in office? Should he? What are the pertinent laws and who will enforce them (and how)?

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## [Election Rants?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-rants/771784)

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**Author:** [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-rants/771784 "2016-11-13T08:43:02Z")

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Here is a good one to kick things off. I do think there needs to be more discussion, there are SOME liberal ideas and pet projects that are so much stronger and more reasonable than the alternative I think we can win th…

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## [How Will Trump's Presidency End?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end/771471)

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**Author:** [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end/771471 "2016-11-13T07:44:38Z")

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Just for fun…pick the THREE outcomes of this…whatever it is…you think are most likely.

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## [Doper Trump supporters, a few honest and serious policy type questions:](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-trump-supporters-a-few-honest-and-serious-policy-type-questions/771435)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-trump-supporters-a-few-honest-and-serious-policy-type-questions/771435 "2016-11-13T04:16:54Z")

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I will assume up front that you don’t think climate change, or at least man made climate change, is a serious threat. True? What do you think of homosexuality and transgenderism? What do you think of people who are …

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## [kaylasdad99: "It is unacceptable for America to ever again have a Republican as President." Well?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254)

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**Author:** [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Replies:** 91\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254 "2016-11-13T00:44:11Z")

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Despite several attempts over the years to discuss possible GOP presidents, kaylasdad99, you insisted instead that the prospect of such a thing was a paradox and “unacceptable,” and thereby implied it would never come to…

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## [Foreign policy-wise, what do you expect from a Trump presidency?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-policy-wise-what-do-you-expect-from-a-trump-presidency/771494)

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**Author:** [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foreign-policy-wise-what-do-you-expect-from-a-trump-presidency/771494 "2016-11-12T23:00:43Z")

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Will he make good on his isolationist rhetoric? Abandon Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, stop supporting Egypt and Saudi Arabia, maybe even turn his back on NATO and pull American troops out of Japan, South Korea and beyond? …

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## [Change.org petition encouraging EC voters to choose Hillary](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-org-petition-encouraging-ec-voters-to-choose-hillary/771697)

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**Author:** [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-org-petition-encouraging-ec-voters-to-choose-hillary/771697 "2016-11-12T22:19:05Z")

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For all the good it may do, at least people are exercising their First Amendment rights. \[link removed\] :cool:

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## [Harry Reid has some very harsh words for Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509)

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**Author:** [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509 "2016-11-12T19:05:39Z")

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## [Obama accomplishments that Trump/Republicans might take credit for](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-accomplishments-that-trump-republicans-might-take-credit-for/771601)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-accomplishments-that-trump-republicans-might-take-credit-for/771601 "2016-11-12T17:20:25Z")

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There are two Obama achievements that haven’t come to full fruition yet and, as a result of timing, might end up being things that the Republicans and Trump would take credit for. The first is the economic recovery. Rig…

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## [No this race was not an endorsement of racism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-this-race-was-not-an-endorsement-of-racism/771456)

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**Author:** [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Replies:** 72\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-this-race-was-not-an-endorsement-of-racism/771456 "2016-11-12T16:33:46Z")

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It was the absence of its rejection. “Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” -John Stuart Mill 1867 (multiple attributions of similar forms). Trump did not g…

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## [I predict that Donald Trump is going to win the election for POTUS this year.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-is-going-to-win-the-election-for-potus-this-year/747810)

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**Author:** [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Replies:** 292\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-is-going-to-win-the-election-for-potus-this-year/747810 "2016-11-12T13:34:59Z")

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I’ve said it in a couple of threads, but I figured I’d start a thread so there’s no doubt about it: Donald Trump is going to win the election for POTUS this year. Here’s a recap of what I posted previously in other thr…

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## [Someone help me make sense of the exit polls from 2016 vs 2012](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-help-me-make-sense-of-the-exit-polls-from-2016-vs-2012/771563)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-help-me-make-sense-of-the-exit-polls-from-2016-vs-2012/771563 "2016-11-12T13:08:37Z")

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I am not a statistician, so my math could be wrong. If so someone please correct it. I actually feel kind of stupid making this post because I know someone who actually understands statistics is going to be bothered by a…

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## [So, where are the Democratic young guns?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-are-the-democratic-young-guns/771565)

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**Author:** [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-where-are-the-democratic-young-guns/771565 "2016-11-12T10:25:32Z")

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I think that was the most glaring omission in this election cycle-we had 2 septuagenarians contesting for the nomination. Where was some younger Democratic politician, perhaps groomed by Obama or someone to become the n…

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## [HRC has her first faithless elector](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hrc-has-her-first-faithless-elector/770669)

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**Author:** [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Replies:** 137\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hrc-has-her-first-faithless-elector/770669 "2016-11-12T06:30:44Z")

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This could still be exciting even after Tuesday :frowning:

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## [Just how bad a Politician is Hillary?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-bad-a-politician-is-hillary/771169)

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**Author:** [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Replies:** 74\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-bad-a-politician-is-hillary/771169 "2016-11-12T04:19:51Z")

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As a policy wonk and intellectual she is streets ahead of most. As a poltician, she is… bad. Lost to a minority half term Senator in '08 Struggled to beat a near octogenarian former Commie Lost to Donald Trump. Donald…

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## [Democrats are headed for crushing victory in 2020 if they play their cards right](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-headed-for-crushing-victory-in-2020-if-they-play-their-cards-right/771327)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-are-headed-for-crushing-victory-in-2020-if-they-play-their-cards-right/771327 "2016-11-12T04:13:39Z")

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There is every indication that the Republicans will lose disastrously in 2020, for a number of reasons: Trump is virtually guaranteed to be deeply unpopular by then, if he is even still POTUS. The Republicans have …

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## [Is There Any Element of the Republican Congress Which Might Check Trump?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436)

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**Author:** [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-element-of-the-republican-congress-which-might-check-trump/771436 "2016-11-12T04:08:48Z")

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OK, if Trump should turn out to be a true disaster- say, using his office for the gain of his businesses, really crossing some of the lines we’ve set out, using the office to go after his rivals in an IRS auditing, Nixon…

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## [Early election night call - good or bad?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/early-election-night-call-good-or-bad/768255)

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**Author:** [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/early-election-night-call-good-or-bad/768255 "2016-11-12T03:22:52Z")

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With states like OH, NC, and FL all trending blue and bluer, it looks possible that the news organizations could call the election for Clinton early in the evening after the Eastern polls close. If they were to do so, w…

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## [Pence](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pence/771546)

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**Author:** [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pence/771546 "2016-11-12T02:00:07Z")

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I’ve heard several people opine that Trump won’t serve for very long. Whether he is impeached, steps down, or some other way, what if he doesn’t serve out his term. Well of course Pence is next. Is he better, worse, or a…

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## [Should President Trump give a blanket pardon to Hillary](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-president-trump-give-a-blanket-pardon-to-hillary/771151)

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**Author:** [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Replies:** 57\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-president-trump-give-a-blanket-pardon-to-hillary/771151 "2016-11-12T00:41:02Z")

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Might help heal the nation. What say you?

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