# Politics & Elections **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=198 [Latest](https://boards.straightdope.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://boards.straightdope.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://boards.straightdope.com/tags.md) **Page:** 199 --- ## [Trump haters: If you could retroactively change the 2012 election results, would you?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-if-you-could-retroactively-change-the-2012-election-results-would-you/771220)
**Author:** [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Replies:** 34\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-if-you-could-retroactively-change-the-2012-election-results-would-you/771220 "2016-11-11T03:11:32Z")
Predicated on the notion that a Romney 2012 victory prevents Trump 2016 from ever getting off the ground, or at least prevents him from winning. We would not, in short, be in our current predicament. Romney never set my… --- ## [Klan victory parade for Trump set for Dec.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klan-victory-parade-for-trump-set-for-dec/771413)
**Author:** [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klan-victory-parade-for-trump-set-for-dec/771413 "2016-11-11T02:47:48Z")
Donald as the grand marshall? --- ## [What Cabinet position will Christie get?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cabinet-position-will-christie-get/771445)
**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cabinet-position-will-christie-get/771445 "2016-11-11T02:23:14Z")
He has been kissing Donald ass all election for a position. What will he get? --- ## [So what woman WOULD you vote for for president?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-woman-would-you-vote-for-for-president/771394)
**Author:** [@Squallous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squallous)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-woman-would-you-vote-for-for-president/771394 "2016-11-11T02:03:05Z")
My top pick would be Condoleeza Rice. Smart, tough, way more effective as SoS than Clinton ever was. Short list - Madeline Albright Notorious RBG (I don’t agree with her, but I’m pretty sure she can force-choke, and … --- ## [The Trump Win Silver Lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-win-silver-lining/771414)
**Author:** [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-win-silver-lining/771414 "2016-11-11T01:54:20Z")
While I personally in no way wanted Trump to win, I have to concede that my disdain for him stems more from the Trump “person” than the Trump “policies”. That is not to say that I agree with much of his policies. For exa… --- ## [Trump Victory general comments thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-victory-general-comments-thread/771218)
**Author:** [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Replies:** 33\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-victory-general-comments-thread/771218 "2016-11-11T01:05:42Z")
my 2-¢: \[ul\] li: “HA-ha!”\[/li\]\[li\](Joker laugh): "HAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAH!\[/li\]\[li\]I was really surprised that Trump won. Even when he’d gained a slight lead after the Midwest votes were counted, I said “Yeah, but just … --- ## [Trump did not do better than Romney, Democrats stayed home](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-did-not-do-better-than-romney-democrats-stayed-home/771405)
**Author:** [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-did-not-do-better-than-romney-democrats-stayed-home/771405 "2016-11-11T00:55:30Z")
I found an interesting graphic that I think will be of interest to people and liberals here. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/5c5k4e/i\_made\_a\_chart\_showing\_the\_popular\_vote\_turnout/ Something very inte… --- ## [And now the real disaster begins...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-real-disaster-begins/771203)
**Author:** [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Replies:** 41\ **Last updated:** [November 11, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-now-the-real-disaster-begins/771203 "2016-11-11T00:54:47Z")
Okay, so disenchanted working-class voters who feel ignored by an “elite” (== qualified) administration have their man in the White House. The thought of DT’s smarmy smile from behind the Resolution desk is bad enough, b… --- ## [Thinking about Bernie in the wake of Trump win](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thinking-about-bernie-in-the-wake-of-trump-win/771400)
**Author:** [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thinking-about-bernie-in-the-wake-of-trump-win/771400 "2016-11-10T21:32:17Z")
So, been doing some thinking this week after the shock I got from the Trump victory. Needless to say I was shocked, horrified and just…perplexed. I never thought Trump had a chance, and have said so often in the variou… --- ## [What if Trump fails to make America great again?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-fails-to-make-america-great-again/771385)
**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-fails-to-make-america-great-again/771385 "2016-11-10T21:04:44Z")
There are other threads about what damage Trump might do, or who the Democrats should run in 2020. I’m opening this thread more for speculation on what will happen politically if Trump’s presidency turns into a disaster.… --- ## [Obama Should Pardon Clinton](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-should-pardon-clinton/771390)
**Author:** [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-should-pardon-clinton/771390 "2016-11-10T19:59:07Z")
They are slightly different. The other thread pertains to Trump pardoning Clinton. I did read in that thread that accepting a pardon may be an admission of guilt. I’d like one of our lawyers to weigh in on that. It’s… --- ## [On which issues is Trump teachable?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-which-issues-is-trump-teachable/771368)
**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-which-issues-is-trump-teachable/771368 "2016-11-10T18:49:51Z")
I think the easiest issue on which Trump can be swayed by his advisors and people in the military is that the NATO alliance is \*\*serious business \*\*and you don’t welch on that just because you don’t feel like defending E… --- ## [Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277)
**Author:** [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Replies:** 5130\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-11-10T17:53:32Z")
As promised, we’ve got about five weeks - 38 days and some hours - until the most fascinating/alarming Presidential Election of most of our lifetimes. Let’s have a fun thread for the final push to election day. Early v… --- ## [Hillary's Campaign manager and advisors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-campaign-manager-and-advisors/771374)
**Author:** [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-campaign-manager-and-advisors/771374 "2016-11-10T17:23:24Z")
How good was John Podesta? Was he the best person out there? Do you think Hillary tried to recruit David Plouffe or John Messina, Obama’s campaign mangers? --- ## [Uninformed question: why don't you Americans do this?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninformed-question-why-dont-you-americans-do-this/771342)
**Author:** [@lriemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lriemann)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninformed-question-why-dont-you-americans-do-this/771342 "2016-11-10T17:17:47Z")
As a non-American, I find this a little puzzling. Everybody knows that some important states, mainly Florida, are nearly always a coin toss. Since different demographics vote differently, why didn’t Obama, or the loca… --- ## [Podcasts with good election analysis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/podcasts-with-good-election-analysis/771371)
**Author:** [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/podcasts-with-good-election-analysis/771371 "2016-11-10T17:01:56Z")
Looking for something to listen to while working today. I just finished the Cracked Podcast for today, and wanted to listen to some more folks discussing the meaning of the election, where the left has gone wrong, gener… --- ## [It was us Liberals in the media bubble. I didn't know.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-was-us-liberals-in-the-media-bubble-i-didnt-know/771194)
**Author:** [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Replies:** 56\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-was-us-liberals-in-the-media-bubble-i-didnt-know/771194 "2016-11-10T16:57:41Z")
What this election tells me is that America is a much angrier, bigoted and stupid country than I ever realized. And the media contributed to my misperception. The media dismissed all the rage as the dying embers of an … --- ## [Liberals - constructive ideas on how to cope?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-constructive-ideas-on-how-to-cope/771186)
**Author:** [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Replies:** 55\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-constructive-ideas-on-how-to-cope/771186 "2016-11-10T16:54:52Z")
Apologies that after a late night and little sleep this is more disjointed than it could be. Would anyone be interested in sharing practical ideas for how they are going to deal with the immediate outcome of the electio… --- ## [Things to stock up on for a Trump Presidency...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-to-stock-up-on-for-a-trump-presidency/771365)
**Author:** [@Me\_Billy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Me_Billy)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-to-stock-up-on-for-a-trump-presidency/771365 "2016-11-10T16:10:15Z")
I am stocking up on… Russian fur “Ushanka” hat… Ushanka: FurHatWorld.com Russian Vodka - Should they come to my house to “visit”. Popcorn. (To watch the new Trump Reality Show come January.) “I didn’t vote for him” b… --- ## [Trump's First 100 Days](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-first-100-days/771360)
**Author:** [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-first-100-days/771360 "2016-11-10T15:20:52Z")
NPR did a story on Trump’s First 100 Days in Office. It’s nicely summarized in that article and I’m not really sure how to summarize it any better. My liberal friends are calling this ‘terrifying,’ mostly I’m just hopi… --- ## [How did Trump get so many Hispanic voters?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-trump-get-so-many-hispanic-voters/771133)
**Author:** [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Replies:** 57\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-trump-get-so-many-hispanic-voters/771133 "2016-11-10T14:58:58Z")
Okay, I just ranted in the Pit about low-education whites. But at least I can comprehend why they might do something this ridiculous. This, however, from the 538 blog, is just utterly mystifying: “Clinton is only at 6… --- ## [Count down timer to the inauguration January 20th 2017](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/count-down-timer-to-the-inauguration-january-20th-2017/771356)
**Author:** [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/count-down-timer-to-the-inauguration-january-20th-2017/771356 "2016-11-10T13:56:45Z")
Here’s the official timer for inauguration day: We have about 70 days left till President elect Donald Trump takes over the White House duties from President Obama. What country do you think Mr Trump will misalign or… --- ## [The amazing accuracy of Michael Moore's election prediction made in July 2016 - It's astounding!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-accuracy-of-michael-moores-election-prediction-made-in-july-2016-its-astounding/771308)
**Author:** [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-accuracy-of-michael-moores-election-prediction-made-in-july-2016-its-astounding/771308 "2016-11-10T13:39:57Z")
My daughter sent me this linked article. It’s interesting reading this the day after. Michael Moore has made some notable movies, but I’ve never thought of him as any kind of truly serious political analyst. This essay … --- ## [What hat will Trump wear to the inauguration?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-hat-will-trump-wear-to-the-inauguration/771351)
**Author:** [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-hat-will-trump-wear-to-the-inauguration/771351 "2016-11-10T13:39:34Z")
During the campaign Trump always wore a hat outdoors when it was windy, because of the hair. Now-cast says there’s a 66.7% chance it will be windy in DC on Jan 20, Wang says 99+%. So what type of hat will Trump wear if… --- ## [Invitation to admit that you didn't vote this election ...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invitation-to-admit-that-you-didnt-vote-this-election/771240)
**Author:** [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invitation-to-admit-that-you-didnt-vote-this-election/771240 "2016-11-10T13:23:53Z")
Time for you to admit that you were the problem … come on admit it … if you didn’t vote … your the one to blame. --- ## [So how long until Roe v. Wade is overturned?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-long-until-roe-v-wade-is-overturned/771163)
**Author:** [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Replies:** 51\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-long-until-roe-v-wade-is-overturned/771163 "2016-11-10T12:43:53Z")
Trump has said unequivocally that he plans to install several pro-life justices on the SC. How much longer will it take until it inevitably gets overturned and abortions are categorically outlawed? --- ## [Rank how likely the liberal freak out item for a Trump presidency is...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rank-how-likely-the-liberal-freak-out-item-for-a-trump-presidency-is/771221)
**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rank-how-likely-the-liberal-freak-out-item-for-a-trump-presidency-is/771221 "2016-11-10T12:13:08Z")
Not even getting into the desirability of the act or action - just how likely you think it is to actually be done, as liberals fear: \[ul\] \[li\]Irresponsible use of nuclear weapons, over which he has sole authority.\[/li\]… --- ## [Reflections on being wrong.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflections-on-being-wrong/771176)
**Author:** [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflections-on-being-wrong/771176 "2016-11-10T11:19:15Z")
Like most here, I’m stunned by the result. Earlier this year, I thought the Brexit vote would lose. I educated myself, spoke to all sides, made my decision, and voted accordingly. Brexit won. I didn’t account for voter … --- ## [How will states react to the Trump presidency?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-states-react-to-the-trump-presidency/771323)
**Author:** [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-states-react-to-the-trump-presidency/771323 "2016-11-10T11:09:38Z")
Trump has said he’s going to do a bunch of crazy stuff–stuff that many states will find unacceptable or contrary to their interests. For instance, Trump promises to dismantle many environmental regulations. Presumably,… --- ## [Do people think Trump will be as bulletproof as President as he was a candidate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-think-trump-will-be-as-bulletproof-as-president-as-he-was-a-candidate/771179)
**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-think-trump-will-be-as-bulletproof-as-president-as-he-was-a-candidate/771179 "2016-11-10T10:57:47Z")
I mean, maybe he will be, but I think about some of the stuff he’s proposed (repealing the ACA, likely without replacement) and some of the stuff those around him may do (anti-gay federal measures, abortion restrictions,… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=197) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=199)