# Politics & Elections **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=207 [Latest](https://boards.straightdope.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://boards.straightdope.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://boards.straightdope.com/tags.md) **Page:** 208 --- ## [Electoral votes for a third party, but not Libertarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-votes-for-a-third-party-but-not-libertarian/768376)
**Author:** [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [October 13, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-votes-for-a-third-party-but-not-libertarian/768376 "2016-10-13T20:30:50Z")
I expect a lot of Libertarians are excited about Trump’s problems and figure Johnson may be a beneficiary. Well, maybe, but not in Utah. This NPR article points out that the pussy-video is really turning Utahns against … --- ## [Democrats emphasizing the color red and Republicans emphasizing the color blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-emphasizing-the-color-red-and-republicans-emphasizing-the-color-blue/768335)
**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Replies:** 27\ **Last updated:** [October 13, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrats-emphasizing-the-color-red-and-republicans-emphasizing-the-color-blue/768335 "2016-10-13T16:17:03Z")
There seems to be this trend of Republicans using campaign signs that are all in blue, and wearing blue, and Democrats wearing red and emphasizing red. The idea is probably that both parties are subconsciously trying to … --- ## [Donald Trump is a Bizarro Jay Gatsby!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-a-bizarro-jay-gatsby/768395)
**Author:** [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 13, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-a-bizarro-jay-gatsby/768395 "2016-10-13T16:04:39Z")
Anyone else look at Donald Trump and see a Bizarro Jay Gatsby come to life? Gatsby - Born poor Trump - son of a millionaire Gatsby - a successful crook Trump - Four bankruptcies in legitimate business Gatsby - eager… --- ## [How much will the final aggregated polls miss the actual results?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-final-aggregated-polls-miss-the-actual-results/768298)
**Author:** [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Replies:** 30\ **Last updated:** [October 13, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-final-aggregated-polls-miss-the-actual-results/768298 "2016-10-13T12:32:33Z")
For president. But feel free to comment on House and Senate polling as well. For simplicity I’ll stick with 538’s final eve of numbers as the aggregator archetype, but feel free to comment on how you think the different … --- ## [\*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737)
**Author:** [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Replies:** 864\ **Last updated:** [October 12, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-12T17:35:58Z")
Second POTUS debate. Clinton v Trump. Date: Sunday, October 9th, 2016 Time: 9 PM Eastern. Location: Washington University, St. Louis, MO All debates will be moderated by a single individual and will run from 9:… --- ## [NYTimes obtains partial 1995 Trump tax records](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nytimes-obtains-partial-1995-trump-tax-records/767444)
**Author:** [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Replies:** 337\ **Last updated:** [October 12, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nytimes-obtains-partial-1995-trump-tax-records/767444 "2016-10-12T17:05:25Z")
As you may recall, 1995 was about the nadir of Trump’s business empire, as he was vastly overextended on multiple hotel and casino deals. Anyhoodily, apparently an anonymous source snail-mailed the Times the first pages… --- ## [Why do the best campaign managers retire?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-best-campaign-managers-retire/768124)
**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 12, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-best-campaign-managers-retire/768124 "2016-10-12T03:08:58Z")
Karl Rove. David Axelrod. James Carville. Three of the most brilliant minds in politics, led their candidates through successful campaigns and then just… stopped. I figured at first maybe it was the work and stress, but … --- ## [Farage on Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farage-on-trump/768243)
**Author:** [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/farage-on-trump/768243 "2016-10-11T21:23:35Z")
Telegraph article here. Some pertinent excerpts: --- ## [Why aren't voters turning to third parties for the 2016 election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-voters-turning-to-third-parties-for-the-2016-election/768028)
**Author:** [@X.L.Lent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/X.L.Lent)\ **Replies:** 31\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-arent-voters-turning-to-third-parties-for-the-2016-election/768028 "2016-10-11T19:16:32Z")
Many citizens are in a slump because they don’t like Mr. Trump. And on the other side I see an almost equal number dislike Ms. Hillary. So why do voters brave and hardy not vote for some third party? Would it be co… --- ## [RNC announces they direct the EC to vote for Pence: Result?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-announces-they-direct-the-ec-to-vote-for-pence-result/768143)
**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Replies:** 23\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-announces-they-direct-the-ec-to-vote-for-pence-result/768143 "2016-10-11T16:07:54Z")
Please don’t fight the hypothetical. This audio of Trump from 11 years ago seems to not be going away and for many Republicans it was the final straw. Consider if it is still an issue and Trump refuses to drop out. Th… --- ## [Is the fact that we have elderly contenders for the Presidency a reflection of demographics?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-fact-that-we-have-elderly-contenders-for-the-presidency-a-reflection-of-demographics/767839)
**Author:** [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-fact-that-we-have-elderly-contenders-for-the-presidency-a-reflection-of-demographics/767839 "2016-10-11T15:42:56Z")
Hi Is the fact that we have elderly contenders for the Presidency a reflection of demographics or is it a function of participation in the political process? Why are we seeing this? There are plenty of other younger el… --- ## [The Trump tapes--use of vulgar language.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-tapes-use-of-vulgar-language/768163)
**Author:** [@pianodave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pianodave)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-tapes-use-of-vulgar-language/768163 "2016-10-11T14:57:33Z")
Hi SD, Would the fallout from the Trump conversation have been any different if he had said you can grab women by the cunt instead of the pussy? I am just asking because I was musing recently that he kind of normalized … --- ## [Could a state implement ranked choice voting for President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-a-state-implement-ranked-choice-voting-for-president/768197)
**Author:** [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-a-state-implement-ranked-choice-voting-for-president/768197 "2016-10-11T14:28:37Z")
I have been volunteering on the campaign for Maine’s question 5. This is to use ranked choice/ instant runoff voting for state legislators, governors, and congress. Many of the people I am working with on this have tal… --- ## [2016 Ohio Voting Information](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-ohio-voting-information/763515)
**Author:** [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-ohio-voting-information/763515 "2016-10-11T09:42:51Z")
Here’s the information for Ohio voters about voting in the upcoming General Presidential Election on November 8, 2016. Important Dates http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/elections/Voters/votingSchedule.aspx Election Date: … --- ## [What could Hillary actually accomplish as president that will endear her to progressives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-could-hillary-actually-accomplish-as-president-that-will-endear-her-to-progressives/768051)
**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Replies:** 72\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-could-hillary-actually-accomplish-as-president-that-will-endear-her-to-progressives/768051 "2016-10-11T04:15:15Z")
Hillary is going to face a very hostile congress like Obama did. So what can she actually do as president that will endear her to the 15-20% of the US who are progressives? Is there anything she can actually do, or has … --- ## [Trump apology video: Don't you think he looks like a spoiled brat being forced to apologize?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apology-video-dont-you-think-he-looks-like-a-spoiled-brat-being-forced-to-apologize/768069)
**Author:** [@Me\_Billy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Me_Billy)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [October 11, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apology-video-dont-you-think-he-looks-like-a-spoiled-brat-being-forced-to-apologize/768069 "2016-10-11T02:47:10Z")
In the apology video Trump posted just after midnight the other day… Don’t you think Trump looks like a spoiled brat being forced to apologize? Or like a kid who just got into trouble and had something taken away from h… --- ## [House (of Reps) Flipping in 2016: 5 Tips to Help You Turn a Profit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-of-reps-flipping-in-2016-5-tips-to-help-you-turn-a-profit/767153)
**Author:** [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Replies:** 28\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-of-reps-flipping-in-2016-5-tips-to-help-you-turn-a-profit/767153 "2016-10-10T23:50:39Z")
No. Not that kind of house flipping. In 2012 the RCP average of the generic congressional ballot was R +0.2. The actual result was D +1.2. Due to reasons that don’t need to be gone over for the one billionth time this r… --- ## [Worst candidate ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-candidate-ever/768153)
**Author:** [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Replies:** 25\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-candidate-ever/768153 "2016-10-10T20:50:45Z")
This is for you presidential historians. To me Trump is the worst candidate I can think of that has ever been the nominee of a major party. Lets take him out of it. And Clinton too for those who want to be contrarian. I … --- ## [Okay, you can admit it. This is the most entertaining election since FOREVER!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-you-can-admit-it-this-is-the-most-entertaining-election-since-forever/767615)
**Author:** [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Replies:** 62\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-you-can-admit-it-this-is-the-most-entertaining-election-since-forever/767615 "2016-10-10T20:25:24Z")
I lie and say I promote the candidate who will provide the most laughs. Okay, ban me for trolling. But I cannot maintain a straight face and support Trump, and I’m a fuckin’ TELEMAKETER! He makes me feel respectable, … --- ## [Last Nite's Debate: What Type of Interest...???](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-nites-debate-what-type-of-interest/768156)
**Author:** [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-nites-debate-what-type-of-interest/768156 "2016-10-10T20:22:58Z")
Late in the debate, somehow the topic of “carrot” interest or possibly “carried” interest arose. I honesty could not tell what they were saying. Being your average Joe, what were they talking about? I assume it’s somethi… --- ## [Why no "A Third Party Vote is a Vote for Hillary!" Rhetoric?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-a-third-party-vote-is-a-vote-for-hillary-rhetoric/768112)
**Author:** [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-a-third-party-vote-is-a-vote-for-hillary-rhetoric/768112 "2016-10-10T16:42:05Z")
I’d been getting increasingly annoyed at the “Third Party Vote is a Vote for Trump!” rhetoric particularly because I was always seeing it shouted at people who do not live in Swing States and can, therefore, vote for who… --- ## [Second POTUS Debate thread Sing-along and discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115)
**Author:** [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Replies:** 337\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115 "2016-10-10T16:37:27Z")
There’s a thread about the second debate already, started several days ago and already a couple pages thick with speculation. As I discussed there, I’d prefer a clean thread to carry on discussion once the actual debate … --- ## [Clinton vs. Pence? Is there any cause for concern?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-vs-pence-is-there-any-cause-for-concern/767966)
**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Replies:** 87\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-vs-pence-is-there-any-cause-for-concern/767966 "2016-10-10T16:10:49Z")
After the vice presidential debate, one theme I heard is that many Republicans wished it was Pence at the top of the ticket. As has been noted in the thread about the stretch run, some Republican officeholders are rescin… --- ## [A vote for Brexit shouldn't be a vote for bigotry, but it is.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-vote-for-brexit-shouldnt-be-a-vote-for-bigotry-but-it-is/757893)
**Author:** [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Replies:** 219\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-vote-for-brexit-shouldnt-be-a-vote-for-bigotry-but-it-is/757893 "2016-10-10T14:39:46Z")
A lot of fine, principled people, some of them posters on this board, are considering voting for Brexit. At least one has posted that he already has. There are, make no mistake, plenty of reasons for wanting Britain out … --- ## [Outrageous things Trump actually might do at the debate tomorrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-things-trump-actually-might-do-at-the-debate-tomorrow/768036)
**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Replies:** 63\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-things-trump-actually-might-do-at-the-debate-tomorrow/768036 "2016-10-10T07:34:00Z")
I was going to say “keep it in the realm of possibility,” but I know that means less when it comes to Trump. I’ll trust you to know what I mean. Mine is: subtly hints to followers that they should dox a questioner he be… --- ## [What's wrong with Gary Johnson?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-gary-johnson/767844)
**Author:** [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Replies:** 70\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-gary-johnson/767844 "2016-10-10T03:04:43Z")
I agree with the majority of his planks. He takes some positions that don’t match my political philosophy but I wouldn’t say are egregious, and sure, there’s some naive shit in there regarding the economics of the State… --- ## [Will Donald Trump bring up the Clinton's private life in tonight's debate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-donald-trump-bring-up-the-clintons-private-life-in-tonights-debate/768099)
**Author:** [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Replies:** 28\ **Last updated:** [October 10, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-donald-trump-bring-up-the-clintons-private-life-in-tonights-debate/768099 "2016-10-10T00:57:41Z")
By their private life, I basically mean: Bill’s affairs(known and alleged) Hillary’s affairs(alleged) Lewinsky scandal Rape allegations(Juanita Broaddrick) It’s obviously poor form…very, very poor form to go there. Wi… --- ## [Leaks and this election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaks-and-this-election/767569)
**Author:** [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [October 9, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaks-and-this-election/767569 "2016-10-09T15:19:25Z")
I can’t think of any other election in which leaked confidential documents have played such a prominent role in driving not only the news of the election, but also how the public views the candidates. Of course everyone… --- ## [Jill Stein campaign thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088)
**Author:** [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Replies:** 144\ **Last updated:** [October 9, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088 "2016-10-09T04:23:19Z")
Since even the Green party seems to be getting more coverage than usual from the media, I figure we probably need this thread too. Came across this interesting piece of rhetoric from Stein: http://thehill.com/blogs/bal… --- ## [Was it a mistake for Trump to run?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-a-mistake-for-trump-to-run/767250)
**Author:** [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Replies:** 101\ **Last updated:** [October 8, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-a-mistake-for-trump-to-run/767250 "2016-10-08T17:01:43Z")
It appears to me that Trump’s dealings are facing a lot more examination now that he a candidate for president. I’m sure Trump supporters will say that the extra attention is politically motivated and that may very well … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=206) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/politics-elections/22.md?page=208)