# Politics & Elections

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## [The electoral votes system make voting seem meaningless.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-electoral-votes-system-make-voting-seem-meaningless/754480)

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**Author:** [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Replies:** 104\
**Last updated:** [May 14, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-electoral-votes-system-make-voting-seem-meaningless/754480 "2016-05-14T00:52:11Z")

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I am going to vote for Trump, but it won’t even matter. Connecticut is a predominantly “blue state”. Whether I vote for Trump or not isn’t going to do shit. What’s the point of even voting then? A more serious exampl…

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## [A Trump General Election loss will lead to the worst of all possible lessons for all sides](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-trump-general-election-loss-will-lead-to-the-worst-of-all-possible-lessons-for-all-sides/753928)

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**Author:** [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Replies:** 47\
**Last updated:** [May 13, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-trump-general-election-loss-will-lead-to-the-worst-of-all-possible-lessons-for-all-sides/753928 "2016-05-13T22:13:29Z")

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Trump WILL lose, I don’t care what anyone says, the bulk of a nation is not as dumb and rotted out as the republican party and base. But the WHY he lost will vary based on the different factions. This was echoed in a b…

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## [The sorry state of British politics (Anti-semitism and racism edition)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sorry-state-of-british-politics-anti-semitism-and-racism-edition/753983)

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**Author:** [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Replies:** 149\
**Last updated:** [May 13, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sorry-state-of-british-politics-anti-semitism-and-racism-edition/753983 "2016-05-13T14:40:35Z")

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I feel there ought to be a thread on this, but it’s so unremittingly grim that I’m not surprised there isn’t. Let’s start with Labour: A few weeks ago, a scandal emerges about promising new MP Naz Shah, who has overcome…

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## [Have we ever had a president without previous political experience?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-president-without-previous-political-experience/754540)

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**Author:** [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [May 12, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-we-ever-had-a-president-without-previous-political-experience/754540 "2016-05-12T22:18:35Z")

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Trump was never a Governor, or a Congressman, or a General. If elected, would he be the first President without political experience?

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## [Trump supporters: critique this version](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-critique-this-version/754601)

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**Author:** [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [May 12, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-critique-this-version/754601 "2016-05-12T21:09:07Z")

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This is a reasonable example of how the appeal of Trump is explained to UK audiences, and how the dichotomy between Trump and Sanders is explained. What do you think - it is fair?

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## [For Libertarians: Which candidate do you support?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-libertarians-which-candidate-do-you-support/754421)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [May 12, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-libertarians-which-candidate-do-you-support/754421 "2016-05-12T06:02:13Z")

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Going from the list on this page, which candidate are you supporting, and why? I ask this because I see people in these political threads talking about how they are going to vote “Libertarian”…but they rarely(if ever) m…

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## [Donald Trump: the least hateful and bigoted candidate (in one area)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-the-least-hateful-and-bigoted-candidate-in-one-area/754461)

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**Author:** [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [May 12, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-the-least-hateful-and-bigoted-candidate-in-one-area/754461 "2016-05-12T04:33:32Z")

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For many people, watching Donald Trump become a presidential nominee from a major party is rather like waking up one day to find that mountains are floating several miles up in midair, that dogs now walk on two legs, or …

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## [Republican brokered convention: What if Boehner is the nominee?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-brokered-convention-what-if-boehner-is-the-nominee/754548)

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**Author:** [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-brokered-convention-what-if-boehner-is-the-nominee/754548 "2016-05-11T22:05:23Z")

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So, assuming that Trupm does not manage to get the nomination, whether through not getting enough electoral votes to clinch it, or some other machinations on the right, who would be the republican nominee? Now, to be fa…

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## [May 10th primaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-10th-primaries/754515)

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**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-10th-primaries/754515 "2016-05-11T21:55:51Z")

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Didn’t see a thread started probably because what’s the point. I’m looking at the early returns and in the Dem race (WV) it looks like 9% didn’t vote for Clinton or Sanders. Who are they voting for?

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## [Can a party negate its candidate before the general election or EC vote?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-a-party-negate-its-candidate-before-the-general-election-or-ec-vote/754549)

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**Author:** [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-a-party-negate-its-candidate-before-the-general-election-or-ec-vote/754549 "2016-05-11T20:56:01Z")

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What happens if a candidate dies before the general election, or wins the general election but dies before the Electoral College votes, has been discussed before. Likewise what happens if the candidate withdraws. OK, q…

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## [ALL the Presidential Candidates: I Report-You Decide!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-presidential-candidates-i-report-you-decide/754491)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-presidential-candidates-i-report-you-decide/754491 "2016-05-11T14:02:07Z")

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You know about the about the Republican and Democratic candidates, and you may even know that there’s a Libertarian Party out there, but they aren’t the only ones running for the top spot this year. Here is a full list o…

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## [GOP Nominee 2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-nominee-2020/754099)

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**Author:** [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Replies:** 64\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-nominee-2020/754099 "2016-05-11T11:13:37Z")

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Assuming Trump loses this November (which is the most likely scenario as of now, but by no means a sure thing), who will be the most likely and strongest Republican frontrunner when Hillary runs for re-election in 2020?

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## [JEB! says he is not supporting Trump or Hillary](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-says-he-is-not-supporting-trump-or-hillary/754229)

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**Author:** [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Replies:** 61\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-says-he-is-not-supporting-trump-or-hillary/754229 "2016-05-11T06:39:29Z")

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A few thoughts: So he is sitting this one out? We were taught in civics class that it in one’s duty to vote. Is he voting for a third party candidate? Didn’t he sign a pledge to support the GOP nominee, even af…

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## [Did Ryan (and others) make a mistake not backing Trump?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ryan-and-others-make-a-mistake-not-backing-trump/754433)

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**Author:** [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-ryan-and-others-make-a-mistake-not-backing-trump/754433 "2016-05-10T19:19:48Z")

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I have to admit that one of the more enjoyable parts of this particular election cycle is watching the Republicans trying to figure out what to do about Trump. Traditionally, if you wear a grey suit and a red tie, you …

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## [Trump's plan to cut the national debt](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-plan-to-cut-the-national-debt/754196)

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**Author:** [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Replies:** 93\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-plan-to-cut-the-national-debt/754196 "2016-05-10T17:09:48Z")

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Get Creditors to Accept Less He did backtrack a little: Since more than 65% of the national debt is owed to Americans, and 16% of the debt is owed to Social Security, I wonder how retirees will react when their Socia…

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## [Conservative Leaning Dopers:  Will you support Trump in the general election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-leaning-dopers-will-you-support-trump-in-the-general-election/754266)

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**Author:** [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Replies:** 65\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-leaning-dopers-will-you-support-trump-in-the-general-election/754266 "2016-05-10T14:49:14Z")

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The guy is not a conservative, at least not on Tuesdays, Wednesdays or alternate Saturdays. I mean, let’s face it, Trump has held every position under the sun and there is no way you could identify him as a conservative…

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## [The Hillary Clinton Presidency of Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hillary-clinton-presidency-of-doom/754035)

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**Author:** [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Replies:** 117\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hillary-clinton-presidency-of-doom/754035 "2016-05-10T05:58:07Z")

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A lot of people seem pretty worked up at the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency. The GOP has been trying to smear her for decades, apparently because they think she is the biggest threat around. I’m not going to s…

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## [The Chris Christie self-immolation-a-thon to be Trump's VP candidate Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-chris-christie-self-immolation-a-thon-to-be-trumps-vp-candidate-thread/753342)

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**Author:** [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-chris-christie-self-immolation-a-thon-to-be-trumps-vp-candidate-thread/753342 "2016-05-10T03:11:26Z")

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Really, the level of desperation this guy apparently feels needs a thread on his own. Chris Christie long slog of self-immolation and groveling merely to be a losing VP candidate is becoming a meme of its own and should …

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## [How will the Democrats respond if Trump wins?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-democrats-respond-if-trump-wins/754331)

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**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-democrats-respond-if-trump-wins/754331 "2016-05-10T00:58:35Z")

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There are some threads on what will happen to the Republican Party if Trump loses this fall. I haven’t seen any threads to speculate about the opposite scenario. How will the Democratic Party change? My guess is that th…

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## [If Hillary chooses Cory Booker as a vp choice, my eyes will glaze over](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-chooses-cory-booker-as-a-vp-choice-my-eyes-will-glaze-over/754126)

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**Author:** [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Replies:** 40\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-hillary-chooses-cory-booker-as-a-vp-choice-my-eyes-will-glaze-over/754126 "2016-05-10T00:50:05Z")

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Everyone talks about Cory Booker like he’s some sort of democratic goldenboy, and maybe to most people he is. But every time I’ve come across him on a show like real time with Bill Maher he seems like an even MORE caref…

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## [Does Trump even want to be President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-even-want-to-be-president/754142)

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**Author:** [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-trump-even-want-to-be-president/754142 "2016-05-10T00:30:03Z")

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By now, I think, it’s generally accepted that Trump ran as a publicity stunt and never expected to get this far. Does he even want to be President? I’m doubtful. Two main reasons why someone might want to be President…

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## [Head of Trump's Super PAC convicted](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-of-trumps-super-pac-convicted/754384)

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**Author:** [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [May 9, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-of-trumps-super-pac-convicted/754384 "2016-05-09T23:25:38Z")

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/05/05/chief-strategist-of-a-pro-trump-super-pac-convicted-on-felony-charges-for-campaign-finance-violations/ He has been convicted of felony charges for misuse of campaign funds.

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## [Simple Question: Is Trump's rise due to Republican tactics?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-is-trumps-rise-due-to-republican-tactics/754263)

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**Author:** [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
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**Last updated:** [May 9, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simple-question-is-trumps-rise-due-to-republican-tactics/754263 "2016-05-09T21:55:32Z")

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To be more explicit, is Trump’s rise as the penultimate outsider due to Republicans selling the idea that everybody in government is evil and ineffective for the last 2 decades? My opinion is yes, at least to a certain …

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## [Pro-Con: Clinton vs. Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-con-clinton-vs-trump/753844)

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**Author:** [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Replies:** 94\
**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-con-clinton-vs-trump/753844 "2016-05-08T23:54:47Z")

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Now that the nominees are basically decided, what are your pluses and minuses of each nominee? Why would you vote for one and encourage a person to vote for one?

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## [And the Republican "Deep Bench" Produces ... The Reality Show Candidate ? ! ?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republican-deep-bench-produces-the-reality-show-candidate/753841)

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**Author:** [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
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**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/and-the-republican-deep-bench-produces-the-reality-show-candidate/753841 "2016-05-08T23:10:36Z")

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Ummm … Oooo - kaaaay… Just 18 months ago the Republican punditry was talking about the “Deep Bench” they had in this election. That they would crush Hilary. That even their second and third strings could lead them to v…

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## [Let's take the 20,000 foot view. What's next for the GOP?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-take-the-20-000-foot-view-whats-next-for-the-gop/754327)

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**Author:** [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
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**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-take-the-20-000-foot-view-whats-next-for-the-gop/754327 "2016-05-08T20:10:53Z")

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The GOP machine welded together from working class and underclass conservatives, the evangelicals, and the top 10% of income earners seems (on the national level) to be in some difficulty. They seem to have gotten themse…

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## [The way the Democratic establishment is treating Bernie supporters is a blunder.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-way-the-democratic-establishment-is-treating-bernie-supporters-is-a-blunder/753263)

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**Author:** [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Replies:** 427\
**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-way-the-democratic-establishment-is-treating-bernie-supporters-is-a-blunder/753263 "2016-05-08T20:00:51Z")

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And by establishment, in this case, I’m also talking about people who demand loyalty to the party and support for Clinton. I originally wrote this in a discussion in this thread. The original post which got me started i…

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## [How did Hillary become a senator from New York?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-hillary-become-a-senator-from-new-york/752689)

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**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-hillary-become-a-senator-from-new-york/752689 "2016-05-08T19:36:31Z")

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Not sure where to put this. I know the New York Republicans screwed up in 2000 but I cannot fathom how she won with no prior political office (First Lady isn’t political). Why did New Yorkers want her to run in the fir…

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## [2016 GOP Covention - Really Necessary? You Sure?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-gop-covention-really-necessary-you-sure/754120)

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**Author:** [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [May 8, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-gop-covention-really-necessary-you-sure/754120 "2016-05-08T05:19:22Z")

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How’s this for the Ultimate GOP STOP Trump: Cancel the Convention. Nominate nobody, but save the Party from collapse? Can “they” do it? Who, exactly says “Book a Hall”? Can they say “Never Mind”?. I don’t see a way o…

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## [Trump's collapse and Cruz's inevitability](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-collapse-and-cruzs-inevitability/748089)

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**Author:** [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Replies:** 220\
**Last updated:** [May 7, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-collapse-and-cruzs-inevitability/748089 "2016-05-07T17:38:58Z")

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We aren’t yet at peak Trump, but the collapse is predictable, and so I will predict it. A lot of the media (and people on here) have largely misidentified Trump’s core of support, because it falls into two media blind s…

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