# Politics & Elections

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## [Obama Is Now a Net Job Creator?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-now-a-net-job-creator/636055)

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**Author:** [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-now-a-net-job-creator/636055 "2012-09-29T03:58:24Z")

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In the latest bad news for Romney, CNN Money is reporting that Obama may be a net job creator. I think it can be successfully argued that Obama shouldn’t be blamed for the massive job losses during his first year in of…

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## [More Voter Fraud found in Florida](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-voter-fraud-found-in-florida/636179)

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**Author:** [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-voter-fraud-found-in-florida/636179 "2012-09-29T01:30:52Z")

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Darn those pesky minorities and poor folks. Oh, wait. The important thing is, you can’t just purge likely Democratic voters. You’ve got to bump your own numbers, too.

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## [Who are the best "political athletes" of the last fifty years or so?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-political-athletes-of-the-last-fifty-years-or-so/636150)

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**Author:** [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-political-athletes-of-the-last-fifty-years-or-so/636150 "2012-09-28T20:40:22Z")

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If you look at politics as a sport, who are the most skilled athletes (basically- how good are they at winning elections, taking all aspects of a campaign into account)? This is how I see it among recent presidents and …

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## [A bright light in a dark year...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bright-light-in-a-dark-year/636120)

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**Author:** [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bright-light-in-a-dark-year/636120 "2012-09-28T11:02:08Z")

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It’s nice to see that the Romney campaign has resulted in one thing of true goodness and beauty. I give you… Lucille and Mitt Mitt Romney’s words, Lucille Bluth’s flair. (I don’t care for Mitt. ;)) Mods, I debated b…

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## [Party Identification discrepancy. Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/party-identification-discrepancy-why/635495)

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**Author:** [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/party-identification-discrepancy-why/635495 "2012-09-27T19:28:09Z")

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The issue has come in at least two threads: there is a significant discrepancy between party identification results in the Gallup and Rasmussen numbers (which show stable near parity voter ID in the case of Gallup or a s…

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## [Economic numbers and the election...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/economic-numbers-and-the-election/636037)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/economic-numbers-and-the-election/636037 "2012-09-27T18:52:44Z")

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So everyone (probably both candidates included) thought that recent past and current economic numbers would have an important impact against the President. Yet the poll numbers don’t seem to bear this out (which is prob…

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## [Reid attacking Romney - you don't represent Mormons.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reid-attacking-romney-you-dont-represent-mormons/635804)

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**Author:** [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Replies:** 68\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reid-attacking-romney-you-dont-represent-mormons/635804 "2012-09-26T23:33:33Z")

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Wow, :eek: that’s got to be a new dirty low for any campaign. It’s way, way out of bounds to attack someone like this. Huckabee for example is a Baptist minister. No one ever said he wasn’t properly representing Baptis…

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## [Shouldn't we reward flip-flopping?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-we-reward-flip-flopping/635263)

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**Author:** [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-we-reward-flip-flopping/635263 "2012-09-26T22:23:12Z")

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I guess I am biased because I’m a notorious flip-flopper nowadays, and I try to change my opinion as often as possible. I’ve changed my mind on a vast amount of issues, sometimes more than once or twice. My main driving …

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## [Paul Ryan vs The Stench (Romney campaign melting down internally) \[satire warning\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-vs-the-stench-romney-campaign-melting-down-internally-satire-warning/635842)

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**Author:** [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Replies:** 91\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-vs-the-stench-romney-campaign-melting-down-internally-satire-warning/635842 "2012-09-26T21:22:35Z")

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Pretty juicy article by Roger Simon at Politico today. If it wasn’t by such a respected journalist from such a respected news site, I’d assume it was parody. Taking it at face value, it appears there are some serious pro…

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## [Jimmy Carter's grandson was instrumental in the release of the secret Romney video.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083)

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**Author:** [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083 "2012-09-26T20:31:03Z")

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I have to love this. They talked shit about his grandfather and now they’re paying for it. It’s a different world with the internet.

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## [Bill Clinton on The Daily Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-on-the-daily-show/635565)

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**Author:** [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-on-the-daily-show/635565 "2012-09-26T16:43:12Z")

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Regardless of your politics, you really ought to give this interview a listen.

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## [Mitt Romney as a Venn diagram](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-as-a-venn-diagram/635822)

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**Author:** [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-as-a-venn-diagram/635822 "2012-09-26T11:46:53Z")

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## [Hillary in 2016?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653)

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**Author:** [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Replies:** 61\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653 "2012-09-26T11:12:56Z")

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BBC News just mentioned Bill Clinton is hinting at a 2016 White House run by Hillary. I’d vote for her. She’d be 69 if and when she won.

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## [Romney - the problem is that you can't open airplane windows](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-the-problem-is-that-you-cant-open-airplane-windows/635709)

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**Author:** [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Replies:** 109\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/romney-the-problem-is-that-you-cant-open-airplane-windows/635709 "2012-09-26T06:05:18Z")

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Seriously! This is our Republican candidate? This is beyond not knowing how a grocery store scanner works. http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/24/899441/romney-plane-windows/?mobile=nc That’s what a double deg…

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## [Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-leads-romney-among-nascar-fans/635797)

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**Author:** [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-leads-romney-among-nascar-fans/635797 "2012-09-26T01:26:34Z")

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Another skewed poll. I can’t imagine anyone whom the NASCAR could hate more than Obozo.

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## [Did Romney darken his face to appeal to Latino voters?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-romney-darken-his-face-to-appeal-to-latino-voters/635316)

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**Author:** [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Replies:** 33\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-romney-darken-his-face-to-appeal-to-latino-voters/635316 "2012-09-26T01:20:14Z")

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http://gawker.com/5944931/mitt-romney-dyed-his-face-brown-to-appeal-to-latino-voters You have to look at the photos at that link to see what they’re talking about. I thought that it might be photoshopped, but you can …

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## [Ann Romney's "grown up" comment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-grown-up-comment/633369)

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**Author:** [@Sekigahara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sekigahara)\
**Replies:** 43\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-grown-up-comment/633369 "2012-09-25T17:22:40Z")

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I thought the comment by Ann Romney belittling Obama by saying voters wanted a “grown up” for President was a nasty cheap-shot. Of course this is a tough campaign but the guy is the President, he did take out Bin Laden, …

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## [How many Senate seats do you think the GOP will have after the election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-senate-seats-do-you-think-the-gop-will-have-after-the-election/635685)

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**Author:** [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-senate-seats-do-you-think-the-gop-will-have-after-the-election/635685 "2012-09-25T08:41:24Z")

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Once the voting is over and any close calls are adjudicated (whether or not Angus King has decided who he’s going to caucus with by then), how many Senate seats do you think the GOP will have, going into 2013? Doing it …

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## [To what extent will the Affordable Care Act be a factor in this race?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-extent-will-the-affordable-care-act-be-a-factor-in-this-race/635614)

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**Author:** [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-extent-will-the-affordable-care-act-be-a-factor-in-this-race/635614 "2012-09-25T00:15:00Z")

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I’m sick and tired of hearing GOPers bitch and moan and spew lies about Obamacare and repeatedly calling for repeal. For fuck sake, they’re acting like Mitt Romney is their last hope against this savage “government take…

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## [The world's (semi-) greatest question](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worlds-semi-greatest-question/635340)

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**Author:** [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Replies:** 114\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worlds-semi-greatest-question/635340 "2012-09-24T22:05:08Z")

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I didn’t see a thread about this, but Obama said Washington can only be changed from the outside, not the inside. But this poses a question. If Obama says Washington can’t be changed from the inside and it can only be c…

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## [Obama thinks the republicans are going to cooperate after he wins reelection](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-thinks-the-republicans-are-going-to-cooperate-after-he-wins-reelection/635325)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 99\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-thinks-the-republicans-are-going-to-cooperate-after-he-wins-reelection/635325 "2012-09-24T21:34:28Z")

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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-gop-could-cooperate-more-second-term-132813404.html Holy crap. In 2008 when the democratic primary was going and Obama claimed he should get the nomination because if Hillary got it it woul…

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## [Oops, He Did It Again—Romney Disagrees With Romney On What It Means To Pay More Taxes Than Are Due](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oops-he-did-it-again-romney-disagrees-with-romney-on-what-it-means-to-pay-more-taxes-than-are-due/635428)

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**Author:** [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oops-he-did-it-again-romney-disagrees-with-romney-on-what-it-means-to-pay-more-taxes-than-are-due/635428 "2012-09-24T19:59:46Z")

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Mitt Romney to ABC News’ David Muir, July 29, 2012: “I don’t pay more \[taxes\] than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president.” Mitt Romney’s c…

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## [Obama Doesn't Remember How Big the Debt Is](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229)

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**Author:** [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Replies:** 181\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229 "2012-09-24T18:48:28Z")

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It’s at 2:02. The freaking President of the United States isn’t sure how much our nations debt is. If Mitt Romney (or John Mccain or George W. Bush for that matter) had stated they didn’t know how much our national de…

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## [Will Obama Beat the Fundamentals? Will Romney? By How Much?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-obama-beat-the-fundamentals-will-romney-by-how-much/635658)

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**Author:** [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
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**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-obama-beat-the-fundamentals-will-romney-by-how-much/635658 "2012-09-24T07:21:05Z")

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Make your predictions here. Incumbency helps Obama. The soft economy hurts him. These effects can be measured: Ray Fair has done such an exercise. By the summer of 2013, the final GDP figures will be in and we’ll know ho…

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## [Am I a Republican or a Democrat? I really cannot tell ...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-a-republican-or-a-democrat-i-really-cannot-tell/635315)

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**Author:** [@SillyBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SillyBean)\
**Replies:** 82\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-a-republican-or-a-democrat-i-really-cannot-tell/635315 "2012-09-24T02:51:07Z")

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What I feel/believe: I don’t mind paying income taxes. However, I don’t think that other people in my similar demographic/income bracket should pay less taxes than myself because they have kids and I do not. They chose …

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## [What happens if faithless electors abandon their pledge and change the outcome of the election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-faithless-electors-abandon-their-pledge-and-change-the-outcome-of-the-election/635527)

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**Author:** [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-faithless-electors-abandon-their-pledge-and-change-the-outcome-of-the-election/635527 "2012-09-24T02:03:56Z")

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So this hypothetical is part General Question, part Election question. I put it here, because why not? So let’s assume that Romney recovers from what had been a poorly managed campaign to win the popular vote. He also w…

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## [An interesting take on Romney's 47% gaffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-take-on-romneys-47-gaffe/635619)

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**Author:** [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-interesting-take-on-romneys-47-gaffe/635619 "2012-09-24T01:13:37Z")

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From The Smallest Minority: Bitter Clingers Of course the real gaffe is that Romney came out and said it.

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## [What did Romney mean by his latest retroactive foot in mouth comment?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-romney-mean-by-his-latest-retroactive-foot-in-mouth-comment/635507)

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**Author:** [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-romney-mean-by-his-latest-retroactive-foot-in-mouth-comment/635507 "2012-09-23T13:38:46Z")

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Most of us know that Mitt has released his 2011 tax returns, and that he paid 14.1% of his income in taxes. Also, that he chose not to deduct all his charitable contributions so order to keep his effective tax rate high…

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## [Was Romney lying then, or is he lying now?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-romney-lying-then-or-is-he-lying-now/635407)

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**Author:** [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2012, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-romney-lying-then-or-is-he-lying-now/635407 "2012-09-23T07:06:06Z")

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It’s kind of a trick question because we all know he’s been lying a lot recently, denying he ever did do and say so many of the things that he did and said. But maybe he’s lying less now than many of us think. It’s pret…

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## [With early voting, how much time IS there to make up ground?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-early-voting-how-much-time-is-there-to-make-up-ground/635454)

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**Author:** [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-early-voting-how-much-time-is-there-to-make-up-ground/635454 "2012-09-23T02:22:06Z")

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Half of the US will be able to start voting by tomorrow, according to this post in MSNBC’s First Read. The states in question aren’t the swingiest of the swing states, so maybe it doesn’t matter that much. But given t…

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