# Politics & Elections

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## [Ca ab459](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-ab459/592232)

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**Author:** [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-ab459/592232 "2011-08-25T17:58:45Z")

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Just saw a news story in yesterday’s San Diego Union Tribune that didn’t get much coverage because of bigger events (UK riots, natioanl debt debates, etc.): Gov. Brown signed into law a bill that awards California’s 55 E…

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## [I'm convinced!  Bachmann is insane.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-convinced-bachmann-is-insane/593317)

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**Author:** [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-convinced-bachmann-is-insane/593317 "2011-08-25T15:05:49Z")

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I am a socially progressive, fiscally conservative Republican. Ever since the early 90’s I have felt like a strager in my own party. I have actually had other Republicans tell me I am not a Republican because of my vie…

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## [Is the election Obama's to lose? (August 2011)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-election-obamas-to-lose-august-2011/593510)

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**Author:** [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Replies:** 77\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-election-obamas-to-lose-august-2011/593510 "2011-08-25T03:50:21Z")

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Why can’t we make polls in the Elections forum? Anyway… Since we’re about a year from the start of the Presidential campaign (the RNC will be held on August 27, 2012), I thought this would be a good time to poll the for…

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## [Is President Obama giving up?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-president-obama-giving-up/593301)

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**Author:** [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Replies:** 86\
**Last updated:** [August 24, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-president-obama-giving-up/593301 "2011-08-24T16:00:11Z")

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Now that President Obama is cloistered in his vacation on Martha’s Vinyard, the cratering S&P notwithstanding, Peggy Noonan gives voice to something I’d already wondered: What with his flaccid bus tour rallies followed…

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## [No corporate donations -- what's the likely outcome?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-corporate-donations-whats-the-likely-outcome/592959)

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**Author:** [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-corporate-donations-whats-the-likely-outcome/592959 "2011-08-19T07:47:41Z")

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Link Do you think anyone will join him? If so, will it get results? And what results?

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## [Rick Perry to jump into the race?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589)

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**Author:** [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Replies:** 257\
**Last updated:** [August 18, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589 "2011-08-18T01:17:17Z")

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Story here. Out of all the potential Republican nominees, Rick Perry scares me the most as an Obama supporter. I don’t like Perry at all, but I’ll agree he’s a very savvy politician who knows exactly how to read the po…

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## ["The One"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one/589566)

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**Author:** [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Replies:** 154\
**Last updated:** [August 18, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one/589566 "2011-08-18T00:53:46Z")

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Here’s a meme that’s interesting to me, because it seems so odd. I don’t know a single Democrat who ever subscribed to Obama-worship, yet it’s a standard for tighty-wrighteys to harp on, with a maximum of froth, sneering…

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## [Fake Democrats lose in Wisconsin recall primary](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-democrats-lose-in-wisconsin-recall-primary/589809)

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**Author:** [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Replies:** 107\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-democrats-lose-in-wisconsin-recall-primary/589809 "2011-08-17T13:09:43Z")

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Good try, GOP, but no… Boy, when you can’t even pull off an “Operation: Chaos,” the situation is getting desperate… :smiley: \[BTW: Dear Mods: I really did try to find a general Wisconsin recall thread, but nothing cam…

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## [New election poll thread in IMHO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-election-poll-thread-in-imho/559299)

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**Author:** [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-election-poll-thread-in-imho/559299 "2011-08-17T13:00:17Z")

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Here. \[You can’t make a poll in this forum, alas\]

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## [2012: A Repeat of 2000 & 2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-a-repeat-of-2000-2004/592945)

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**Author:** [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-a-repeat-of-2000-2004/592945 "2011-08-16T23:04:35Z")

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I’m afraid we’re looking at another nearly dead-even election that will come down once again to one or two swing states. EVERY state that went to Gore and Kerry will go to Obama in 2012. That’s a given, which means he’l…

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## [Iowa Straw Poll results (2012 GOP)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-straw-poll-results-2012-gop/592611)

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**Author:** [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Replies:** 64\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-straw-poll-results-2012-gop/592611 "2011-08-16T05:32:44Z")

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Results should be coming pretty soon now. I’m predicting Ron Paul, with Bachmann 2nd and Pawlenty 3rd. If T-Paw doesn’t finish in the top three, he’s probably done.

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## [Pawlenty drops out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pawlenty-drops-out/592721)

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**Author:** [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pawlenty-drops-out/592721 "2011-08-15T17:39:59Z")

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If ever a subject deserved heading under “MPSIMS”, it is this. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.ajc.com%2Fjamie-dupree-washington-insider%2F2011%2F08%2F14%2Ftim…

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## [Height and female candidates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/height-and-female-candidates/592407)

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**Author:** [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/height-and-female-candidates/592407 "2011-08-15T16:15:01Z")

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The height of male presidential candidates seems like it might matter to some degree, and I don’t think there’s any doubt that culturally Americans tend to respect men for being tall. But does that hold true for female …

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## [Assuming Palin runs, how likely is it that she could win?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045)

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**Author:** [@spunkymuzicnote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spunkymuzicnote)\
**Replies:** 245\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045 "2011-08-15T03:12:36Z")

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Because frankly, the idea of that woman running the country scares the hell out of me. I know she’s being all non-committal about it right now but lets face it, she’s got something up her sleeve. Someone who can’t even a…

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## [Is Bachman 1) an Anti-Catholic or 2) a Godless Heathen?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160)

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**Author:** [@Profound\_Gibberish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profound_Gibberish)\
**Replies:** 70\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160 "2011-08-14T21:37:19Z")

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Let’s all remember from the last presidential campaign that, as an individual that belongs to a church, you are completely responsible for, and agree with, everything your pastor says, does, has said, has done, will say …

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## [Emergency Notice About Tim Pawlenty](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emergency-notice-about-tim-pawlenty/592686)

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**Author:** [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emergency-notice-about-tim-pawlenty/592686 "2011-08-14T15:26:16Z")

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This is an all-points bulletin concerning the whereabouts of Tim Pawlenty. All citizens are urged to stay calm. Do not panic. Nothing has changed. Repeat. Nothing has changed. Mr. Pawlenty remains in hiding where he h…

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## [What? Not one thread about the GOP debate in Iowa last night?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-not-one-thread-about-the-gop-debate-in-iowa-last-night/592438)

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**Author:** [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-not-one-thread-about-the-gop-debate-in-iowa-last-night/592438 "2011-08-14T01:36:00Z")

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Yah. I didn’t watch it, either. :stuck\_out\_tongue:

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## [OK, the debt deal is apparently made.  How will it affect 2012?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-the-debt-deal-is-apparently-made-how-will-it-affect-2012/591004)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 187\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-the-debt-deal-is-apparently-made-how-will-it-affect-2012/591004 "2011-08-13T21:00:42Z")

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For my own sanity, I am not going anywhere near the hardcore political blogs (or any at all, for that matter, at least not for the foreseeable future), but I’m sure the liberal ones, at least, are howling over this deal …

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## [Would Old School, long standing Republicans actually vote for Michelle Bachman?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753)

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**Author:** [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [August 12, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-old-school-long-standing-republicans-actually-vote-for-michelle-bachman/589753 "2011-08-12T15:52:16Z")

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My dad fit into the “Old School” republican meme for many years while in the military yet now in his aging day has changed to somewhat of an independent - he still mainly votes R. The other day he was talking about Mich…

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## [Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul: How would they spin post Aug 2?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachmann-and-ron-paul-how-would-they-spin-post-aug-2/590486)

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**Author:** [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Replies:** 40\
**Last updated:** [August 12, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachmann-and-ron-paul-how-would-they-spin-post-aug-2/590486 "2011-08-12T02:08:40Z")

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Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann have been very vocal on their stance to NOT increase the debt limit, regardless of any deals or cuts. Obviously the press is paying attention to them because they’re both running for presi…

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## [OK, I'll play.  MY election.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ill-play-my-election/573285)

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**Author:** [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Replies:** 49\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ill-play-my-election/573285 "2011-08-11T16:27:47Z")

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I thought this would be an interesting and unusual thread. Certainly one that hasn’t been around the bend a few times. So. I am running for City Council-at-Large in my small town in Ohio. Should enough people be inte…

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## [So how long can the American electorate continue to 'vote the bums out'](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-long-can-the-american-electorate-continue-to-vote-the-bums-out/591266)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-long-can-the-american-electorate-continue-to-vote-the-bums-out/591266 "2011-08-10T00:38:58Z")

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This phrase seems to come up alot when I read things like yahoo message board, a very strong anti-washington, anti-incumbent feeling. I don’t necessarily agree with it (I don’t care for the concept of the average joe as …

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## [Jonathan Sharkey For President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-sharkey-for-president/591551)

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**Author:** [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-sharkey-for-president/591551 "2011-08-07T15:47:18Z")

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon\_Sharkey Interesting… people should keep an open mind,

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## [2012 Elections: Deadline to Run?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-elections-deadline-to-run/588399)

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**Author:** [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-elections-deadline-to-run/588399 "2011-08-05T21:26:26Z")

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I can’t find a firm answer to a deadline by when any potential presidential candidates must toss their hat in the ring. There are inferences to the NH primary and Iowa caucus, but nothing clear. Surely, there is a dead…

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## [SDMB liberals...who do you want in the next Presidential election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-liberals-who-do-you-want-in-the-next-presidential-election/590302)

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**Author:** [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Replies:** 144\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-liberals-who-do-you-want-in-the-next-presidential-election/590302 "2011-08-01T23:19:24Z")

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I’m curious…who do you WANT to represent the Democrats in the next Presidential election? Not who will you hold your nose and vote for (since I presume many of you don’t really want Obama, based on posts I’ve read about…

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## [Petraeus 2016!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/petraeus-2016/588185)

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**Author:** [@Profound\_Gibberish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profound_Gibberish)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/petraeus-2016/588185 "2011-07-29T21:23:26Z")

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America has often relied on it’s war generals to preside over the country post-war. This is no different. I believe he would be able to bring both sides together–no matter what party he allies with–due to his backgroun…

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## [Gary Johnson on Legalizing Marijuana](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gary-johnson-on-legalizing-marijuana/588216)

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**Author:** [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [July 28, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gary-johnson-on-legalizing-marijuana/588216 "2011-07-28T20:22:52Z")

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I don’t know much about this guy, but I like his position on the “War on Drugs” outlined in this CNN commentary. He’s a candidate for the GoP nomination in 2012, a former governor of New Mexico, and now I’m going to giv…

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## [Losing faith in the federal election process](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/losing-faith-in-the-federal-election-process/590263)

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**Author:** [@contradancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/contradancer)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [July 27, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/losing-faith-in-the-federal-election-process/590263 "2011-07-27T16:37:15Z")

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It appears the allegations of fraud in the Ohio voting process which were raised at the time were true. The man who knew and was willing to testify “died” in a plane crash. Evil it appears prevailed. this is one of th…

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## [Senate Elections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-elections/587496)

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**Author:** [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-elections/587496 "2011-07-24T20:49:00Z")

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All this concern about the presidential election, there’s not a lot of discussion about the Senate Election. Background- The Democrats did very well in 2000 and 2006, so they hold 23 of the 33 seats up this round. Near…

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## [Summarize Complex Political Issues in 10 Words or Less](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summarize-complex-political-issues-in-10-words-or-less/588332)

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**Author:** [@Profound\_Gibberish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profound_Gibberish)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summarize-complex-political-issues-in-10-words-or-less/588332 "2011-07-23T22:35:42Z")

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There seems to be an issue going around in the Board where “facts” and “logic” are taking entirely too long to read, understand and incorporate into ones body of knowledge. We need to really look critically at all of th…

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