# The Quarantine Zone

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## [Large crowds at Football games](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/large-crowds-at-football-games/950167)

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**Author:** [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Replies:** 33\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/large-crowds-at-football-games/950167 "2021-10-04T18:45:06Z")

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I understand everyone is fed up with Covid restrictions. Acting like it’s gone isn’t the answer. My state has nearly reached capacity for ICU beds. It varies day by day. I hope college football crowds aren’t the next su…

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## [Masks and acne](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masks-and-acne/922167)

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**Author:** [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masks-and-acne/922167 "2021-10-04T16:17:46Z")

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I’m having a horrible time lately with my lower face breaking out, especially my chin and around my mouth. I’ve had female co-workers (none of the few men at Hades Annex were involved in this conversation) say they’re ha…

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## ["It's just a bad Flu, we gotta just live with it." Gaining ground](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-bad-flu-we-gotta-just-live-with-it-gaining-ground/950544)

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**Author:** [@Somethingwitty1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Somethingwitty1)\
**Replies:** 175\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-just-a-bad-flu-we-gotta-just-live-with-it-gaining-ground/950544 "2021-10-04T07:24:23Z")

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Let me say I am fully vaxxed. Mask wearing. Follow the CDC guidelines type person. I have noticed a creeping sentiment, including among dopers, that this thing is never gonna go away. Is it just defeatism? Are we jus…

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## [Fake vaccination cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-vaccination-cards/937970)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 75\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-vaccination-cards/937970 "2021-10-04T03:35:36Z")

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Are there any penalties for carrying and/or showing a fake Covid-19 vaccination card?

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## [Will the COVID-19 crisis usher in changes to the American healthcare system?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-covid-19-crisis-usher-in-changes-to-the-american-healthcare-system/850625)

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**Author:** [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [August 24, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-covid-19-crisis-usher-in-changes-to-the-american-healthcare-system/850625 "2020-08-24T03:30:35Z")

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Even before COVID-19 came along, Healthcare has been a huge issue in America. Obama overhauled things with the imperfect ACA and Trump has been steadily dismantling it and in the race to unseat him in 2020, healthcare ha…

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## [Please help me understand why RNA vaccines do not "change your RNA"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-understand-why-rna-vaccines-do-not-change-your-rna/950678)

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**Author:** [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Replies:** 50\
**Last updated:** [October 1, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-understand-why-rna-vaccines-do-not-change-your-rna/950678 "2021-10-01T04:31:41Z")

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(I have a high school level understanding of biology and grade school understanding of chemistry, so please be kind) At Gov. DeSantis’s latest press conference a man from Gainesville said, The vaccine changes your RNA…

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## [At-home COVID tests- anyone try one](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-home-covid-tests-anyone-try-one/951636)

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**Author:** [@dummygladhands71](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dummygladhands71)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-home-covid-tests-anyone-try-one/951636 "2021-09-30T13:36:46Z")

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We’re cruising, yup, a themed music cruise fully paid for since 2019. We’re required to do a COVID test 48 hrs. prior to boarding. I’m checking the local testing sites and they’re over 48 hours out for results. The cruis…

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## [DNA Vaccines, ZyCoV-D](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dna-vaccines-zycov-d/951093)

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**Author:** [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dna-vaccines-zycov-d/951093 "2021-09-26T22:55:50Z")

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ZyCoV-D is a newish vaccine out of India. It’s a “DNA vaccine”. I’m not sure of the details. Have they just made some quantity of DNA, and they inject it in your arm? I thought normal vaccines make you immune to surfa…

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## [What's up with Israel (re covid)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-israel-re-covid/949223)

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**Author:** [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-israel-re-covid/949223 "2021-09-25T22:40:09Z")

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I was just looking at 91-divoc, and Israeli infection rates are going through the roof. Their death rate is up, too – nearly as high per capita as the US, and well above the UK or Canada.

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## [Who has been pressured by family and friends NOT to get vaccinated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-been-pressured-by-family-and-friends-not-to-get-vaccinated/950050)

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**Author:** [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-has-been-pressured-by-family-and-friends-not-to-get-vaccinated/950050 "2021-09-25T12:07:01Z")

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This is something that makes zero sense to me. Please tell me if I’m living in a bubble. I read a column about football players claiming they aren’t getting vaccinated due to “pressure from family and friends.” Then I re…

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## [Status on vaccines for under-12?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/status-on-vaccines-for-under-12/948946)

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**Author:** [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/status-on-vaccines-for-under-12/948946 "2021-09-25T00:05:23Z")

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Is there any news on when any of the Covid vaccines now approved for people 12-and-over will be approved (emergency or otherwise) for those under 12? For the U.S. in particular, although approval in other countries of v…

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## [Why hasn't the media rubbed our noses in COVID deaths? It might be the thing that saves us](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-the-media-rubbed-our-noses-in-covid-deaths-it-might-be-the-thing-that-saves-us/926555)

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**Author:** [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Replies:** 276\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-the-media-rubbed-our-noses-in-covid-deaths-it-might-be-the-thing-that-saves-us/926555 "2021-09-24T02:46:38Z")

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Famously, in the US, the Vietnam War became unpopular as the media showed Americans dying in jungles and showed their caskets coming back from the war. In Vietnam we lost around 50,000 soldiers. Depending how you want …

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## [Unvaccinated should preferentially receive scarce monoclonal antibody?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unvaccinated-should-preferentially-receive-scarce-monoclonal-antibody/951092)

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**Author:** [@Turki-lurki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turki-lurki)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unvaccinated-should-preferentially-receive-scarce-monoclonal-antibody/951092 "2021-09-22T22:55:54Z")

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Unvaccinated should get priority for an effective early covid-19 treatment, some officials say I am horrified at the notion that voluntarily unvaccinated people in distress from covid19 should move ahead of vaccinated…

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## [Emerging variants](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emerging-variants/951082)

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**Author:** [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emerging-variants/951082 "2021-09-22T16:20:59Z")

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I think a thread on new variants that have the potential to become the new delta may be useful. This maybe should go in the breaking news thread, but new variants often don’t even get Greek letter status. Anyway, there’…

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## [Should I get a COVID test?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-get-a-covid-test/950293)

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**Author:** [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-get-a-covid-test/950293 "2021-09-20T21:13:03Z")

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When I got home today I noticed a piece of mail addressed to my neighbor was mistakenly delivered to me. I noticed he was in his garage, so I walked over and handed it to him, and then he informed me that he had COVID. …

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## [Religious and Other Exemptions - Actual numbers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-and-other-exemptions-actual-numbers/950802)

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**Author:** [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 19, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-and-other-exemptions-actual-numbers/950802 "2021-09-19T02:16:37Z")

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Here’s a thread for a non-emotional discussion about vaccine exemptions. It is not a pit discussion. If you want to rant about religious and other exemptions, feel free to open a topic in the pit. I opened this mainly…

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## [Boosters will depend on whether you're over... well, what? 16 or 60? Can't hear which it is!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boosters-will-depend-on-whether-youre-over-well-what-16-or-60-cant-hear-which-it-is/950820)

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**Author:** [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boosters-will-depend-on-whether-youre-over-well-what-16-or-60-cant-hear-which-it-is/950820 "2021-09-18T13:17:19Z")

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On television news program they keep using an age as a milestone with different booster shot approaches, but I’ll be damned if I can tell whether they are saying “16” or “60”. Which one is an important milestone in today…

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## [I was assaulted at work over vaccines/masks](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-assaulted-at-work-over-vaccines-masks/950381)

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**Author:** [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Replies:** 53\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-assaulted-at-work-over-vaccines-masks/950381 "2021-09-15T14:40:39Z")

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Warning - racial and homophobic insults quoted below. Two nights ago at work, I had a physical altercation with an anti-vacciner. I was walking out to the fuel station with some change for the register, and one of my e…

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## [Worldwide vaccination rates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldwide-vaccination-rates/950386)

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**Author:** [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldwide-vaccination-rates/950386 "2021-09-13T15:41:07Z")

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I’ve been keeping an eye on this graph periodically, and I’m saddened that it doesn’t ever seem to get much about 40 MM doses / day, and doesn’t stay up there for very long when it does. Is this a manufacturing constrai…

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## [Simultaneous Flu and COVID-19 shots: your experiences](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simultaneous-flu-and-covid-19-shots-your-experiences/950537)

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**Author:** [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/simultaneous-flu-and-covid-19-shots-your-experiences/950537 "2021-09-12T21:18:39Z")

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In the Who’s been vaccinated? thread, I noticed some people have been getting the flu shot with their COVID-19 shots. And I have questions. I almost put them in the original thread, but thought a new thread might be warr…

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## [A no win situation for doctors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-no-win-situation-for-doctors/949790)

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**Author:** [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Replies:** 133\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-no-win-situation-for-doctors/949790 "2021-09-12T00:53:36Z")

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\[Ohio judge orders hospital to treat COVID patient with Ivermectin despite CDC warnings\] They are required to give potentially toxic, unapproved treatment and either way if he dies the wife will probably sue.

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## [Fitness Studio Encouraging Face Shields INSTEAD of Masks...is this as dumb as it seems?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fitness-studio-encouraging-face-shields-instead-of-masks-is-this-as-dumb-as-it-seems/950425)

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**Author:** [@edwin\_klockars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwin_klockars)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fitness-studio-encouraging-face-shields-instead-of-masks-is-this-as-dumb-as-it-seems/950425 "2021-09-11T14:29:29Z")

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I’m a fully-vaxxed low-risk (young, no co-morbidities) inhabitant of Los Angeles and I recently decided to start gong back to group fitness classes, specifically, spinning (in-door exercise bike classes). The owner of t…

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## [Any updates on FULL approval from the FDA?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-updates-on-full-approval-from-the-fda/949150)

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**Author:** [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-updates-on-full-approval-from-the-fda/949150 "2021-09-11T11:49:48Z")

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Just to be clear, I got my shots in Feb and March, and I do plan to get the third whenever they tell me to. But I would feel more comfortable about it if the FDA would give full approval, not merely the emergency authori…

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## [Covid Vaccine and Retinal Detachments?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccine-and-retinal-detachments/946344)

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**Author:** [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Replies:** 46\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccine-and-retinal-detachments/946344 "2021-09-10T20:38:00Z")

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One of our neighbors had a detached retina after getting her covid vaccine (I don’t know which vaccine). She just told my sister today that her daughter had a detached retina after getting her vaccination. I also don’t k…

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## [Whence the story about MDs inflating Covid death stats?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whence-the-story-about-mds-inflating-covid-death-stats/949017)

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**Author:** [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whence-the-story-about-mds-inflating-covid-death-stats/949017 "2021-09-10T19:56:33Z")

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I vaguely recall, some time ago, an assertion that (some) physicians were assigning cause of death to Covid infection inappropriately, e.g. patient dies in a car accident but tested positive for Covid, so “counts as a Co…

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## [The Long-Term Effect of the COVID Crisis on the Medical Profession](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-long-term-effect-of-the-covid-crisis-on-the-medical-profession/949824)

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**Author:** [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-long-term-effect-of-the-covid-crisis-on-the-medical-profession/949824 "2021-09-08T15:58:06Z")

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Damn. Sitting here at around 5 am (as I do most days) reading news stories about hospitals, emergency rooms, ICUs, and clinics around the country, I can’t help but wonder about what this ongoing crisis is doing to the me…

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## [Vaccination cocktails (mixing vaccine types)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccination-cocktails-mixing-vaccine-types/942937)

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**Author:** [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 5, 2021, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccination-cocktails-mixing-vaccine-types/942937 "2021-09-05T06:26:12Z")

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This is an emerging topic. Related questions have been asked tangentially, but up till now very little information was confirmed. As the vaccination regime evolves, new data becomes available. This thread is suggested a…

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## [Typical ICU Capacity](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/typical-icu-capacity/949523)

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**Author:** [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/typical-icu-capacity/949523 "2021-09-03T14:31:40Z")

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As long as this has been going on, and as many stories as there are about ICU beds filling up, it struck me that I have no idea what typical ICU capacity is. No Covid, how many beds are typically occupied at any one tim…

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## [I'm betting (Australia) has it beaten](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-betting-australia-has-it-beaten/850459)

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**Author:** [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Replies:** 182\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-betting-australia-has-it-beaten/850459 "2021-09-02T03:27:47Z")

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Not a medical breakthrough, I’m just betting that Australia has it beaten in the same way that China does, and is not like the USA. It is difficult to get a handle on this. News is sensationalist at any time on any subj…

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## [What counts as a "COVID patient" in a hospital bed?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-counts-as-a-covid-patient-in-a-hospital-bed/949764)

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**Author:** [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-counts-as-a-covid-patient-in-a-hospital-bed/949764 "2021-08-31T02:03:05Z")

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I’ve seen the claim that statistics regarding hospital resource utilization by COVID patients are being overstated, in that a patient occupying a bed for treatment of something other than COVID (e.g. a stroke) will be pu…

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