# The Quarantine Zone

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## [Anybody that should NOT get vacinnated? (Lupus)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-that-should-not-get-vacinnated-lupus/947873)

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**Author:** [@dogdogdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogdogdog)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-that-should-not-get-vacinnated-lupus/947873 "2021-08-11T23:44:54Z")

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My daughter is diagnosed with Lupus. Or at least something Lupus “like”. She is often in pain or significantly sick so at the least there is something amiss with her body or immune system. She is 49 years old. Should pe…

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## [Covid vaccine effectiveness rate (including against variants)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-rate-including-against-variants/948133)

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**Author:** [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-rate-including-against-variants/948133 "2021-08-10T19:43:01Z")

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Continuing the discussion from Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News: I thought it might be helpful to start a thread on the Covid vaccine effectiveness rate based on studies.

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## [Italy will require vaccination proof for cafes, taxis, etc](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italy-will-require-vaccination-proof-for-cafes-taxis-etc/947703)

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**Author:** [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/italy-will-require-vaccination-proof-for-cafes-taxis-etc/947703 "2021-08-09T07:29:16Z")

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Do Dopers think European policies requiring proof of vaccination to enjoy daily activities - restaurants, bars, etc. are sensible? Possible in the US? Balance individual and community rights?

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## [What unexpected effect have you experienced from the pandemic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unexpected-effect-have-you-experienced-from-the-pandemic/948207)

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**Author:** [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unexpected-effect-have-you-experienced-from-the-pandemic/948207 "2021-08-08T05:15:57Z")

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Whether you’ve had COVID or not, I think we’ve all experienced effects that have surprised us. Mine has been dreaming. At the start, I had many intense nightmares that I think were stress induced. Lately I’ve had much mo…

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## [Covid Vaccines in Canada](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccines-in-canada/934089)

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**Author:** [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\
**Replies:** 512\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-vaccines-in-canada/934089 "2021-08-06T18:26:36Z")

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I just talked to my sister in BC. Both she and her husband have pre-existing health conditions. My sister has asthma, and her husband just finished cancer treatments, and they’re both over 60. She said they can’t get a v…

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## [What countries, other than Brazil, have done a worse job with Covid-19?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-other-than-brazil-have-done-a-worse-job-with-covid-19/916643)

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**Author:** [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-other-than-brazil-have-done-a-worse-job-with-covid-19/916643 "2021-08-04T15:57:04Z")

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Use whatever definition you feel is appropriate. Rate of infections, mortality, economic damage, whatever. I get the impression that the US has done a particularly poor job dealing with Covid-19. Not just compared to …

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## [Why does the US have such a low tech and easily forged vaccine card](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-us-have-such-a-low-tech-and-easily-forged-vaccine-card/943045)

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**Author:** [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Replies:** 125\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-us-have-such-a-low-tech-and-easily-forged-vaccine-card/943045 "2021-08-04T04:28:41Z")

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Surely the richest country in the world and the planet’s most technologically advanced nation can do better than \*\* checks notes \*\* a a paper card with details filled in by hand. A kid with some art supplies and a print…

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## [NJ and Utah have a free App called \*\*Docket\*\* to track and display your Vacc Record](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-and-utah-have-a-free-app-called-docket-to-track-and-display-your-vacc-record/947660)

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**Author:** [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-and-utah-have-a-free-app-called-docket-to-track-and-display-your-vacc-record/947660 "2021-08-01T15:23:32Z")

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So NJ and Utah have a free App called Docket to track and display your Vacc Record. It was pretty easy to install and verify. People should probably check if their state is offering the same. This means you won’t need …

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## [SARS-CoV-2 Variants and Mask Effectiveness (Factual)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sars-cov-2-variants-and-mask-effectiveness-factual/946102)

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**Author:** [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sars-cov-2-variants-and-mask-effectiveness-factual/946102 "2021-08-01T13:10:35Z")

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In this thread, @puzzlegal, @ThelmaLou, @Jay\_Z, and I were discussing the robustness in protection of masks against the new Delta variant. I started this thread to avoid hijacking that one. The question is, does the hig…

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## [USEFUL Covid commercial prospects](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/useful-covid-commercial-prospects/947627)

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**Author:** [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/useful-covid-commercial-prospects/947627 "2021-08-01T03:14:07Z")

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Covid commercials are coming out to convince those unvaccinated to get the shot. The problem is the celebrities they chose aren’t likely to convince those that don’t want to get them. At all. But no sane person wants …

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## [Random Covid rules,regs,news and links CDC WHO CMS SSA ECT](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-covid-rules-regs-news-and-links-cdc-who-cms-ssa-ect/947701)

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**Author:** [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 31, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-covid-rules-regs-news-and-links-cdc-who-cms-ssa-ect/947701 "2021-07-31T18:05:32Z")

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I’ve been researching any and everything Covid related since it started. I’m going to post some links, most are pdf, some aren’t. These will be random. I have quite a few. Some info is based on the global scale. Some …

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## [Discussion About Other Topics Split Off from Covid Vaccines in Canada](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-about-other-topics-split-off-from-covid-vaccines-in-canada/947492)

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**Author:** [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Replies:** 56\
**Last updated:** [July 31, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-about-other-topics-split-off-from-covid-vaccines-in-canada/947492 "2021-07-31T05:29:53Z")

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I get it. I’d vax my kid, but there are people out therr who aren’t crazy or ignorant who are thinking, “Ok, this vaccine was rushed through without any trials on children, without any long-term trials it would normall…

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## [Is delta not going to peak until October?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-delta-not-going-to-peak-until-october/947373)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [July 30, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-delta-not-going-to-peak-until-october/947373 "2021-07-30T23:24:35Z")

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In the most likely scenario, Lessler says, the U.S. reaches only 70% vaccination among eligible Americans, and the delta variant is 60% more transmissible. In that scenario, at the peak in mid-October, there would be…

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## [Any news on new vaccine development?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-news-on-new-vaccine-development/947297)

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**Author:** [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [July 30, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-news-on-new-vaccine-development/947297 "2021-07-30T18:47:18Z")

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Reports are that existing vaccines are less effective against new variants of COVID. So, are the companies working on new/different booster or replacement shots? What has be published/reported?

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## [When is full approval expected?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-full-approval-expected/947366)

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**Author:** [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-full-approval-expected/947366 "2021-07-29T20:24:34Z")

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As probably everyone knows, the vaccines available in the US (Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson and Johnson) are all approved under an Emergency Use Authorization, not full approval. And fairly obviously, the companies that …

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## [Surge among kids when they go back to school](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surge-among-kids-when-they-go-back-to-school/947339)

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**Author:** [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\
**Replies:** 43\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surge-among-kids-when-they-go-back-to-school/947339 "2021-07-29T17:33:06Z")

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I sure hope I wrong, but I think there is a good chance there will be a surge of covid cases among kids when school is back in session in places where mask mandates are banned and kids won’t be wearing masks. Am I likel…

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## [How is vaccine progress going globally?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-vaccine-progress-going-globally/947590)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-vaccine-progress-going-globally/947590 "2021-07-29T16:23:16Z")

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Theres about 8 billion people globally, how is vaccine progress going in the rest of the world? I’ve heard Africa has barely started, has anything been done to help get them more vaccines and health care workers? What a…

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## [5 year economic outlook due to Covid and governmental response - your opinions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-year-economic-outlook-due-to-covid-and-governmental-response-your-opinions/947419)

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**Author:** [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-year-economic-outlook-due-to-covid-and-governmental-response-your-opinions/947419 "2021-07-29T03:05:38Z")

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Please do feel free to comment on any country you like, even if it isn’t your own. I’m in the US, and have no special knowledge of economics. But I do know we’ve had inflation below the target amount for quite a while.…

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## [I still have a scab from my vaccine](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-have-a-scab-from-my-vaccine/947418)

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**Author:** [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 28, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-have-a-scab-from-my-vaccine/947418 "2021-07-28T04:53:05Z")

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Just a little scab, nothing major, but it’s been a month and there’s still this little scab.

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## [Is it too late to get a vaccination against Delta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-late-to-get-a-vaccination-against-delta/947018)

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**Author:** [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [July 27, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-late-to-get-a-vaccination-against-delta/947018 "2021-07-27T13:40:25Z")

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Given that the Delta surge is upon us and given that the minimum time for the first dose to have any positive effect at all seems to be at least a week (and about two months to get full protection from both doses), if yo…

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## [Could a health insurance company drop coverage for people unvaccinated for Covid?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-a-health-insurance-company-drop-coverage-for-people-unvaccinated-for-covid/942034)

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**Author:** [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Replies:** 44\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-a-health-insurance-company-drop-coverage-for-people-unvaccinated-for-covid/942034 "2021-07-26T20:26:46Z")

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Continuing the discussion from People who aren't vaccinated - what should they be called?: Without much research on this, my initial thought is that if health insurance companies could do this, there wouldn’t be many i…

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## [Amish and Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-and-covid/947194)

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**Author:** [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-and-covid/947194 "2021-07-26T16:51:56Z")

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I have respect for them insofar as they walk the walk and talk the talk in their beliefs-if anyone has “earned” a religious exemption in theory it’s them (not that I’d give it to them, but I hope you understand what I me…

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## [Vaccine Damage Payments Act 1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccine-damage-payments-act-1979/947327)

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**Author:** [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccine-damage-payments-act-1979/947327 "2021-07-26T13:01:56Z")

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So there’s a petition floating around to update this for COVID. Is it a real thing? If so, I hope it’s pretty stringent otherwise the usual suspects are going to use it as fuel for the fire.

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## [Are there any variants with a higher R0 than delta](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-variants-with-a-higher-r0-than-delta/947267)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-any-variants-with-a-higher-r0-than-delta/947267 "2021-07-26T02:37:26Z")

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Are there any known variants which are currently at low levels but are more transmissible than Delta, or is Delta the most transmissible known variant to date?

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## [Thoughts on Flu Resurgence this coming season](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-flu-resurgence-this-coming-season/947261)

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**Author:** [@superwombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superwombat)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thoughts-on-flu-resurgence-this-coming-season/947261 "2021-07-26T00:04:01Z")

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Any predictions on how the upcoming flu season will develop? Will the miniscule case numbers from last year remain low, or will it come rip-roaring back as soon as we’re all unmasked and licking surfaces and people of q…

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## [Can we finally admit that the Sweden experiment was a failure?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-admit-that-the-sweden-experiment-was-a-failure/947030)

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**Author:** [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Replies:** 60\
**Last updated:** [July 25, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-admit-that-the-sweden-experiment-was-a-failure/947030 "2021-07-25T19:39:05Z")

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Sweden has had over a million cases and over 14,000 deaths. Denmark has had 300,000 cases with 2500 deaths. The other Scandinavian countries have had about 100,000 cases with less than 1000 deaths. While Denmark may b…

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## [What exactly is the cause of various covid waves/spikes in cases](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-cause-of-various-covid-waves-spikes-in-cases/947147)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-cause-of-various-covid-waves-spikes-in-cases/947147 "2021-07-24T23:27:58Z")

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Looking at that, there’s been about 5 waves of covid in the US. First one was when the virus first started, then it dipped (probably due to lockdowns). Then it jumped again in July, then dipped again. Then it jumped …

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## [Can it be predicted how many vaccinated people need to be infected before Covid becomes more vaccine resistant](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-it-be-predicted-how-many-vaccinated-people-need-to-be-infected-before-covid-becomes-more-vaccine-resistant/946942)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2021, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-it-be-predicted-how-many-vaccinated-people-need-to-be-infected-before-covid-becomes-more-vaccine-resistant/946942 "2021-07-24T10:37:54Z")

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My understanding is that about 2 billion humans have been vaccinated, but even the 2 dose mRNA vaccines only reduce the chance of infection from Delta by maybe 2/3 (however the vaccines are far more effective at preventi…

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## [What colour mask does one wear with court robes?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-colour-mask-does-one-wear-with-court-robes/947071)

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**Author:** [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-colour-mask-does-one-wear-with-court-robes/947071 "2021-07-24T00:48:16Z")

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I’m going with black. Not the blue medical masks. Blue would be too splashy against the black and white of robes and tabs. Black mask fits the black and white colour scheme.

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## [Your social comfort level once vaxed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-social-comfort-level-once-vaxed/939087)

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**Author:** [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Replies:** 201\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-social-comfort-level-once-vaxed/939087 "2021-07-23T23:07:21Z")

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For folk who have been vaxed, how (if at all) have you changed your willingness to engage in various social activities? My immediate issue concerns the recent death of my wife’s best friend’s mother. Right now, we do n…

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