# The Quarantine Zone

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## [Now that I'm vaxxed, is Covid just another cold/flu/no big deal](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-im-vaxxed-is-covid-just-another-cold-flu-no-big-deal/946835)

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**Author:** [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Replies:** 54\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-im-vaxxed-is-covid-just-another-cold-flu-no-big-deal/946835 "2021-07-23T21:05:17Z")

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My entire family is vaccinated, and from what I’m reading (limited though it is) “breakthrough” infections are a bit of a thing these days. Now, in reading about these positive tests, there is often the caveat that it is…

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## [Japan, the Olympics and Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japan-the-olympics-and-covid/946890)

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**Author:** [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japan-the-olympics-and-covid/946890 "2021-07-23T09:40:11Z")

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One thing I’ve heard over and over on sports radio is Japan has a 20% vaccination rate. Being sports radio they are of course more interested in the sports angle. What is the story with the low vaccination rate?

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## [Is the positivity rate getting short thrift?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-positivity-rate-getting-short-thrift/947072)

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**Author:** [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-positivity-rate-getting-short-thrift/947072 "2021-07-22T22:05:01Z")

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I did a search but couldn’t find another thread on this, apologies if I’m rehashing. IANAS, obviously, but I’m fairly good with math. Every morning I check the numbers for Ontario to see how many new cases have been det…

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## [The end of masking](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-end-of-masking/942032)

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**Author:** [@HughGoply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HughGoply)\
**Replies:** 403\
**Last updated:** [July 20, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-end-of-masking/942032 "2021-07-20T19:13:36Z")

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New CDC guidance: anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities – large or small – without wearing a mask or physical distancing.

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## [Polly Want a Cracker? (Vaccine passports)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polly-want-a-cracker-vaccine-passports/940919)

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**Author:** [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Replies:** 107\
**Last updated:** [July 19, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polly-want-a-cracker-vaccine-passports/940919 "2021-07-19T11:26:20Z")

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Chicago is introducing “Vax Pass” , which will allow fully vaccinated people to participate in major summer group events in the city of Chicago. I think it’s a great idea. It is medically sound, and it also rewards pe…

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## [What do you want to do most when the pandemic is over?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-do-most-when-the-pandemic-is-over/927782)

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**Author:** [@CorpusNeptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorpusNeptune)\
**Replies:** 125\
**Last updated:** [July 17, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-do-most-when-the-pandemic-is-over/927782 "2021-07-17T15:07:02Z")

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I used to go to Irish Fest in Milwaukee, Wisconsin every year, so I’d love to do that again. -Baleaf

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## [Does my COVID-19 Antibody Test Results Provide me with any Actionable Data?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-my-covid-19-antibody-test-results-provide-me-with-any-actionable-data/946644)

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**Author:** [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 16, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-my-covid-19-antibody-test-results-provide-me-with-any-actionable-data/946644 "2021-07-16T16:47:03Z")

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I have donated blood six times since the start of the pandemic. I don’t know when they started testing for COVID antibodies, but in July of 2020 I got my first result, which was negative. To me; that was useful informati…

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## [Is it safe to go to the gym?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-safe-to-go-to-the-gym/946081)

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**Author:** [@RunSilent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RunSilent)\
**Replies:** 52\
**Last updated:** [July 16, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-safe-to-go-to-the-gym/946081 "2021-07-16T15:07:57Z")

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I have not been to my gym since Covid started. I miss working out. I am fully vaccinated, but I am still apprehensive about going to the gym, especially since I live in an area with a lot of anti-vaxxers. Seeking opin…

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## [What’s the prognosis for a Moderna vaccinated individual, with the Delta Variant?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-prognosis-for-a-moderna-vaccinated-individual-with-the-delta-variant/946264)

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**Author:** [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 13, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-prognosis-for-a-moderna-vaccinated-individual-with-the-delta-variant/946264 "2021-07-13T02:59:19Z")

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Apart from the slightly increased probability of death, what are the other prevalent ailments ? What if it is a kid ? An elderly person ? A person with blood pressure and / or diabetes ? I know CDC recommends masks off…

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## [Are restrictions working?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-restrictions-working/939576)

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**Author:** [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [July 11, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-restrictions-working/939576 "2021-07-11T23:36:53Z")

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I just found a site that has organized states by severity of lockdown, then graphed that against COVID death rates. The graph in question is this one: https://cdn.wallethub.com/wallethub/embed/73818/geochart-coronav…

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## [Is long haul covid related to why employers can't find enough employees](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-long-haul-covid-related-to-why-employers-cant-find-enough-employees/946136)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [July 11, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-long-haul-covid-related-to-why-employers-cant-find-enough-employees/946136 "2021-07-11T16:31:39Z")

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Its estimated by the CDC that almost 115 million Covid infections happened in the US. I’ve heard up to 1/4 of covid patients develop long haul symptoms. I only know of one personally, who is a guy who was healthy befo…

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## [The Covid-19 Dishonor Roll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-covid-19-dishonor-roll/946191)

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**Author:** [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 11, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-covid-19-dishonor-roll/946191 "2021-07-11T04:50:36Z")

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Good article on the pandemic’s worst fearmongers and sleazebags: As with naming of sports All-Star teams, there are regrets about those unaccountably left off the list, like Tucker Carlson, Judy Mikovits of “Plandemic…

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## [CDC School Guidance](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-school-guidance/946121)

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**Author:** [@ishamael69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ishamael69)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 10, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-school-guidance/946121 "2021-07-10T20:14:00Z")

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Can someone explain the CDC’s guidance today that says fully vaccinated teachers and students don’t need to mask? Half or more of school-aged kids can’t get the vaccine. More importantly, the delta variant (the one mos…

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## [Did you get tinnitus after the second vax?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-get-tinnitus-after-the-second-vax/937210)

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**Author:** [@LordHarry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordHarry)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [July 10, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-get-tinnitus-after-the-second-vax/937210 "2021-07-10T03:00:01Z")

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Hello! I got corona last year, with first symptoms on 3/27/2020. I got my first pfizer vaccine on 2/21/2021. I felt unwell for 2-3 days. I had some muscle aches, was tired, things didn’t taste right, and I had a sore t…

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## [28% of Oklahomans who test positive for COVID-19 now end up in hospital, health experts say](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/28-of-oklahomans-who-test-positive-for-covid-19-now-end-up-in-hospital-health-experts-say/945947)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 8, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/28-of-oklahomans-who-test-positive-for-covid-19-now-end-up-in-hospital-health-experts-say/945947 "2021-07-08T20:58:19Z")

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“Almost 28% of people who have COVID-19, a positive test, in the last 14 days are being admitted. And that’s a really high admission rate,” Kendrick said. So that sounds like a high rate, but does anyone have any r…

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## [Current COVID guidelines for young children](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/current-covid-guidelines-for-young-children/945748)

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**Author:** [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/current-covid-guidelines-for-young-children/945748 "2021-07-07T18:01:59Z")

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At this point, 3/4 of our family are vaccinated (or will be max-vax by Wednesday). Most indoor places in our town are mask-free. But we have an 8-year-old, who obviously can’t get vaccinated yet. And it’s hard as hell to…

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## [Do you need any sort of end date or standards for ending COVID restrictions in order to support them?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-need-any-sort-of-end-date-or-standards-for-ending-covid-restrictions-in-order-to-support-them/945862)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-need-any-sort-of-end-date-or-standards-for-ending-covid-restrictions-in-order-to-support-them/945862 "2021-07-07T16:11:17Z")

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Basically, I’ve seen some people say they’re more likely to oppose serious restrictions on daily life if it’s not accompanied by a specific end date or clear standards for ending it, out of fear that no standards, or vag…

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## [COVID 19 may be 40 years old](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-may-be-40-years-old/945889)

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**Author:** [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-may-be-40-years-old/945889 "2021-07-07T14:16:04Z")

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Based on genomic analysis, COVID 19 originated in bats. Based on differences from bat COVID, it’s been mutating for 40 years. Published 12 months ago. I can understand some of the words in the article: some of them se…

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## [Lambda variant in the news](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lambda-variant-in-the-news/945784)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lambda-variant-in-the-news/945784 "2021-07-06T14:46:55Z")

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So I’m reading the Lambda variant out of Peru may be more infectious and deadly than Delta, and it may be more resistant to vaccines too. However, they discovered the variant in December. If it were more infectious than…

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## [Previous exposure to other coronaviruses may result in milder COVID](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/previous-exposure-to-other-coronaviruses-may-result-in-milder-covid/945804)

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**Author:** [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/previous-exposure-to-other-coronaviruses-may-result-in-milder-covid/945804 "2021-07-06T10:47:47Z")

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The idea was suggested way back near the beginning of the epidemic, but I haven’t heard anything about it in the last year or so. Good to see someone is researching it.

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## [Oh, the irony! (SFW) \[link to coronavirus figure (toy?), "made in China"\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-irony-sfw-link-to-coronavirus-figure-toy-made-in-china/945686)

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**Author:** [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2021, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-irony-sfw-link-to-coronavirus-figure-toy-made-in-china/945686 "2021-07-06T06:55:38Z")

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This is pretty good. Or this.

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## ["Unvaccinated people will develop a variant that evades vaccines"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unvaccinated-people-will-develop-a-variant-that-evades-vaccines/945430)

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**Author:** [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unvaccinated-people-will-develop-a-variant-that-evades-vaccines/945430 "2021-07-06T03:36:29Z")

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Continuing the discussion from Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News: 3 Principles Now Define the Pandemic I have seen this issue put forth by dozens of posters. Now in The Atlantic. Effectivel…

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## [The Las Vegas covid gamble: are they holding a losing hand?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-las-vegas-covid-gamble-are-they-holding-a-losing-hand/945388)

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**Author:** [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-las-vegas-covid-gamble-are-they-holding-a-losing-hand/945388 "2021-07-04T21:35:39Z")

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Back on June 1, Las Vegas opened up with no mask, no social distancing, business as usual. Yippee! They counted on the non-vaccinated to respect their request to be honest, and mask up, or stay away. Right. Now, Ne…

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## [Delta Variant Incredibly Contagious In Australia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-variant-incredibly-contagious-in-australia/944924)

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**Author:** [@Tilt-A-Whirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tilt-A-Whirl)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-variant-incredibly-contagious-in-australia/944924 "2021-07-04T02:39:48Z")

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This news out of Australia seems horrible, the virus transmitted between strangers just walking past each other in a mall. Is this as bad as it seems? It sure looks bad to me. Also, is this Dr Eric Feigl-Ding a reliabl…

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## [Spike protein shedding from vaccines](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spike-protein-shedding-from-vaccines/945333)

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**Author:** [@Jawbreaker1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jawbreaker1)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spike-protein-shedding-from-vaccines/945333 "2021-07-01T02:20:51Z")

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What’s the straight dope on studies supporting the potential for spike protein “shedding”, transmission of the protein from a vaccinated to an unvaccinated person, resulting in symptoms induced in the latter? https://ij…

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## [Dr. Robert Malone - "The Inventor of mRNA Technology" - now going rogue?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-robert-malone-the-inventor-of-mrna-technology-now-going-rogue/945186)

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**Author:** [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [June 30, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dr-robert-malone-the-inventor-of-mrna-technology-now-going-rogue/945186 "2021-06-30T19:22:49Z")

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I’m opening this thread to get a little help in thinking about what Dr. Robert W. Malone has been putting out there lately. Not much of a profile right now, but your friendly neighborhood anti-vaxxer will have his name o…

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## [Is the original covid-19 pretty much extinct now or still circulating](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-original-covid-19-pretty-much-extinct-now-or-still-circulating/945083)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 30, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-original-covid-19-pretty-much-extinct-now-or-still-circulating/945083 "2021-06-30T15:47:02Z")

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the original covid 19 evolved into the alpha/UK variant. this variant was about 50% more contagious so it displaced the original covid in cases. now the delta variant is about 50% more infectious than the alpha variant a…

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## [Why do COVID vaccines use messenger RNA rather than injecting spike proteins directly?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-covid-vaccines-use-messenger-rna-rather-than-injecting-spike-proteins-directly/940281)

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**Author:** [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-covid-vaccines-use-messenger-rna-rather-than-injecting-spike-proteins-directly/940281 "2021-06-28T04:00:19Z")

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It seems a little Rube Goldberg to induce the body to create spike proteins with mRNA, then have the immune system react to those newly-created spike proteins. Why not grow the spike proteins in a big vat (or in an anima…

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## [How best to assess actual risk and personal responsibility?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-best-to-assess-actual-risk-and-personal-responsibility/945105)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-best-to-assess-actual-risk-and-personal-responsibility/945105 "2021-06-28T03:43:25Z")

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My cousin has three kids that are too young to get vaccinated. Her pediatrician has told her that they’ve seen “a lot” of reports from parents of other patients who’ve gotten the delta variant while fully vaccinated. She…

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## [The new variants ain't nothin to mess with (and vaccines apparently work)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-variants-aint-nothin-to-mess-with-and-vaccines-apparently-work/944915)

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**Author:** [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 24, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-variants-aint-nothin-to-mess-with-and-vaccines-apparently-work/944915 "2021-06-24T04:04:31Z")

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Long story short, an IT department basically got wiped the fuck out by a recent wave of COVID. Two dead; several others hospitalized. One walked away unscathed and that one just happened to have been vaccinated. Get y…

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