# The Quarantine Zone

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## [Grocery handling in the time of COVID](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grocery-handling-in-the-time-of-covid/916397)

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**Author:** [@xanthous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xanthous)\
**Replies:** 85\
**Last updated:** [July 30, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grocery-handling-in-the-time-of-covid/916397 "2020-07-30T14:49:16Z")

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I searched around and found a discussion about handling/quarantining mail but haven’t found any conversations about handling groceries. I’m in Columbus, Ohio (capital city). We are at level three (of four) on the “advis…

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## [Friends' Dad passed, and I must miss the funeral](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friends-dad-passed-and-i-must-miss-the-funeral/915824)

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**Author:** [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friends-dad-passed-and-i-must-miss-the-funeral/915824 "2020-07-29T19:03:44Z")

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My friend came down with Covid, and he ended up giving it to both parents before he realized he had it. Poor fellow, it is a nightmare that every person with older parents has a risk of living through. His father was on…

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## [Went to Costco This Morning. Was a Little Bit Scary.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/went-to-costco-this-morning-was-a-little-bit-scary/849294)

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**Author:** [@ethelbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethelbert)\
**Replies:** 518\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/went-to-costco-this-morning-was-a-little-bit-scary/849294 "2020-07-29T01:43:08Z")

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Went to Costco this morning about 10:30 am. I usually go in the morning midweek and it is generally not crowded. It was packed this morning. I almost turned around. They were out of water (they did have some kind of “alk…

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## [What are the actual, confirmed risks of long term organ/systemic damage from COVID-19?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-actual-confirmed-risks-of-long-term-organ-systemic-damage-from-covid-19/913953)

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**Author:** [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [July 28, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-actual-confirmed-risks-of-long-term-organ-systemic-damage-from-covid-19/913953 "2020-07-28T18:30:33Z")

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I’ve heard many unconfirmed reports of COVID-19 patients suffering widespread, permanent damage to various internal organs. Mainly I seem to be hearing about kidney damage although heart and brain damage seems to be poss…

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## [Why does Nevada have different rules for churches than casinos etc?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-nevada-have-different-rules-for-churches-than-casinos-etc/916391)

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**Author:** [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [July 28, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-nevada-have-different-rules-for-churches-than-casinos-etc/916391 "2020-07-28T15:39:35Z")

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Although this post is prompted by the Supreme Court case, that is not what I’m asking about. Apparently , Nevada has allowed casinos, movie theaters and bowling alleys to reopen at 50% of capacity and at least at bowling…

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## [Paper towel tubes in the coronavirus world](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-towel-tubes-in-the-coronavirus-world/916548)

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**Author:** [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 27, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-towel-tubes-in-the-coronavirus-world/916548 "2020-07-27T23:50:36Z")

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I hope I don’t get instabanned for bringing up the taboo topic of paper towel tubes again. I saw a novel application yesterday at the supermarket. One lady had a paper towel tube, slit open, that she put over the handl…

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## [“Last” visit to dying grandfather: yea or nay?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-visit-to-dying-grandfather-yea-or-nay/916353)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [July 27, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-visit-to-dying-grandfather-yea-or-nay/916353 "2020-07-27T19:09:27Z")

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My grandfather is 98, and has been living his twilight years with my uncle nearby. Last Saturday, he fell ill and had to go to the hospital. He was tested for COVID early on and it came up negative. My uncle, who visited…

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## [Are We OK with PPE & Ventilators Now?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-ok-with-ppe-ventilators-now/916228)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 27, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-ok-with-ppe-ventilators-now/916228 "2020-07-27T00:50:37Z")

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We had a couple of weeks of respite, with declining death if not infection rates. That seems to be over now. Have we used our time wisely? Is the US now in better shape for PPE and ventilators?

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## [The U.S. will hopefully take a much more severe approach the next time around](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-u-s-will-hopefully-take-a-much-more-severe-approach-the-next-time-around/916232)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 25, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-u-s-will-hopefully-take-a-much-more-severe-approach-the-next-time-around/916232 "2020-07-25T02:29:56Z")

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Hopefully, the U.S. government (federal and state level) will take away the lesson from Covid that the next time a pandemic like this strikes, it’s better to err on the side of being too severe than too lenient. I think…

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## [US-Canada Travel Possible?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-canada-travel-possible/852491)

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**Author:** [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-canada-travel-possible/852491 "2020-07-24T18:55:57Z")

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My teenage kids live with their mother in Toronto and I live in the NYC-area. Historically, they spend their summers and Christmas breaks with me. During the school year, I either visit them or they come here, about ev…

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## [Help me find the right mask](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-the-right-mask/916234)

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**Author:** [@ethelbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethelbert)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [July 24, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-find-the-right-mask/916234 "2020-07-24T18:10:10Z")

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I do not like ear loops. Those few masks that do not have ear loops have elastic straps that go around the head. What I would like is to have two somewhat elastic straps that come together at the back of the head and can…

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## [Overall, is Covid strengthening or weakening the anti-vaxxer movement?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overall-is-covid-strengthening-or-weakening-the-anti-vaxxer-movement/915846)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 85\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overall-is-covid-strengthening-or-weakening-the-anti-vaxxer-movement/915846 "2020-07-23T22:06:19Z")

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On the one hand, you’ve never had so many people who desperately want a disease to be beaten, so you should see a mile-long line of people waiting to get Covid vaccines when they come out. On the other hand, whatever Co…

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## [Is the late-July flattening of the US curve real?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-late-july-flattening-of-the-us-curve-real/916059)

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**Author:** [@illoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/illoe)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-late-july-flattening-of-the-us-curve-real/916059 "2020-07-23T18:12:51Z")

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I’ve been following the US case trackers pretty closely, and have been a little surprised at the speed with which the US curve has flattened since the reporting protocols were changed to bypass the CDC. Florida in partic…

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## [Why do some countries show pronounced weekend effect and others do not?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-countries-show-pronounced-weekend-effect-and-others-do-not/916118)

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**Author:** [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-countries-show-pronounced-weekend-effect-and-others-do-not/916118 "2020-07-23T14:53:40Z")

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For Each one, scroll down to “Daily New Cases” In Brazil and Mexico it is very strong. In the US it is mild/medium. In India and Russia, it is virtually non-existent. My best guess is how much of the society changes …

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## [NICU stays are down (unexpected benefit!)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicu-stays-are-down-unexpected-benefit/915973)

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**Author:** [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicu-stays-are-down-unexpected-benefit/915973 "2020-07-23T10:27:20Z")

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From the NY Times: Evidently, there are a lot fewer preemies being born nowadays. They don’t know why. My theory is that with people being at home more, they are going through less physical stress; I told my husband “W…

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## [What percentage of people do you think will never be directly touched by COVID?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-percentage-of-people-do-you-think-will-never-be-directly-touched-by-covid/914218)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-percentage-of-people-do-you-think-will-never-be-directly-touched-by-covid/914218 "2020-07-23T00:05:50Z")

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As in be infected themselves or have someone they directly know infected, until the crisis is globally acknowledged to be at least stable. I ask about both Americans and worldwide. I was wondering about this because the…

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## [Will the 2020 Indianapolis 500 (Aug. 23) be the ultimate COVID super-spreader event?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-2020-indianapolis-500-aug-23-be-the-ultimate-covid-super-spreader-event/916027)

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**Author:** [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-2020-indianapolis-500-aug-23-be-the-ultimate-covid-super-spreader-event/916027 "2020-07-22T22:38:35Z")

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I’ve been a fan of IndyCar and open wheel racing for at least 25 years, but I’m alarmed and dismayed that Roger Penske, the new owner of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the IndyCar Series, has decided to have fans in…

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## [We should end the general lock-downs. Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-end-the-general-lock-downs-now/913281)

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**Author:** [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Replies:** 422\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-end-the-general-lock-downs-now/913281 "2020-07-22T13:22:10Z")

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I’m going to take a lot of heat for this from Dopers but I think it’s a rational, reasonable position. Until recently I have moderately supported the various lockdowns but that changed when I saw this data on COVID-19 d…

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## [What's so bad about nations hacking each others covid virus information](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-nations-hacking-each-others-covid-virus-information/915952)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-nations-hacking-each-others-covid-virus-information/915952 "2020-07-22T04:14:06Z")

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both Russia and China have been in the news for hacking into databases to gain info about other nations coronavirus vaccine research. I’m sure other nations have done it too and not gotten caught. Why is this a bad thin…

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## [No vaccine in 2021. How does life look then?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vaccine-in-2021-how-does-life-look-then/911123)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vaccine-in-2021-how-does-life-look-then/911123 "2020-07-22T02:27:44Z")

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As I navigate the new board, I found myself thinking about a discussion on Reddit regarding the NFL. A user there said that if there’s no vaccine by the 2021 season, the league would “have” to cancel that season as well,…

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## [Could we discuss blood serum? Effective as a treatment? Effective as a vaccine?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-we-discuss-blood-serum-effective-as-a-treatment-effective-as-a-vaccine/915663)

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**Author:** [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 21, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-we-discuss-blood-serum-effective-as-a-treatment-effective-as-a-vaccine/915663 "2020-07-21T21:37:07Z")

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I see a lot of discussion and news articles about drug treatments and vaccines, but almost only passing mention about blood serum. That is odd because it seems to me that almost anyone who has survived an infection coul…

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## [Fatality Choppiness](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fatality-choppiness/915520)

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**Author:** [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [July 21, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fatality-choppiness/915520 "2020-07-21T16:51:42Z")

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Looking at daily fatalities for Coronavirus, there’s a pretty stable pattern of there being reduced deaths on Sunday and Monday: It’s sufficiently stable that, by this point, I think it’s fair to say that it’s not jus…

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## [Well, Walmart did it](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-walmart-did-it/915449)

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**Author:** [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [July 20, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-walmart-did-it/915449 "2020-07-20T17:17:08Z")

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Masks are required in all Walmart stores and Sam’s. We’re saved by the people of Walmart. :persevere::roll\_eyes:

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## [How does Coronavirus play out?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-coronavirus-play-out/915258)

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**Author:** [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [July 20, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-coronavirus-play-out/915258 "2020-07-20T11:53:51Z")

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It seems there are a few options: Coronavirus could become some endemic scourge that stays with us. Coronavirus becomes seasonal like the flu Coronavirus just sort of disappears and goes away. 4…? Profit I…

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## [I'm fine/I'm fucked: personal, selfish pandemic experiences you are having now](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fine-im-fucked-personal-selfish-pandemic-experiences-you-are-having-now/914023)

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**Author:** [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Replies:** 63\
**Last updated:** [July 20, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-fine-im-fucked-personal-selfish-pandemic-experiences-you-are-having-now/914023 "2020-07-20T03:17:02Z")

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I’ll preface this by saying that I’m not so self-absorbed - and I assume you, dear reader, aren’t either - that I think everything is a-okay as long as my life continues without undue disruption. Every person who is sick…

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## [Am I the only one who remembers \[Trump saying people were going to die\]?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-remembers-trump-saying-people-were-going-to-die/915754)

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**Author:** [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 19, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-remembers-trump-saying-people-were-going-to-die/915754 "2020-07-19T22:44:03Z")

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Weeks ago, David Muir interviewed President Trump about ending the original stay-at-home order. They were seated well over six feet apart. David Muir asked if Trump were ending the order too soon. Trump explained it wa…

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## [Question about wearing a mask](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-wearing-a-mask/915341)

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**Author:** [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Replies:** 34\
**Last updated:** [July 19, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-wearing-a-mask/915341 "2020-07-19T18:44:35Z")

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This thought randomly occurred to me: You know how they say that when you wear a surgical mask, you are doing so not to protect yourself but to protect those around you? Suppose I reversed the mask and wore it backward…

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## [why are deaths dropping but infection rate stabilizing?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-deaths-dropping-but-infection-rate-stabilizing/855779)

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**Author:** [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Replies:** 147\
**Last updated:** [July 19, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-deaths-dropping-but-infection-rate-stabilizing/855779 "2020-07-19T17:06:00Z")

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I get my information from Worldometers United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer In spite of the weekly spikes we’ve been seeing the infection rate in the US has stabilized at about 20,000 per day. THis…

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## [Protests and the virus](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-and-the-virus/855168)

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**Author:** [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Replies:** 47\
**Last updated:** [July 18, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-and-the-virus/855168 "2020-07-18T15:50:35Z")

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Completely leaving aside the issue of what’s being protested - since this subforum is focused on the virus alone: The protests are clearly massive, ongoing, and have totally disregarded the concept of distancing. I was …

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## [What would you do with long term restrictions, especially enforcement?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-with-long-term-restrictions-especially-enforcement/915463)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 18, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-with-long-term-restrictions-especially-enforcement/915463 "2020-07-18T14:09:42Z")

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There is a very real possibility that coronavirus will remain a threat at the present level for a good long while, maybe even on the order of years. Let’s assume that’s in the cards, or likely enough that it should be pl…

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