# The Quarantine Zone

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## [So... How many people is too many?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-many-people-is-too-many/914114)

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**Author:** [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [July 8, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-many-people-is-too-many/914114 "2020-07-08T07:35:30Z")

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There has been a lot of discussion about “not worth destroying the economy to save a few lives.” OK, great. I agree. But, how many lives are “a few.” Is it OK to kill 50K Americans? 100K? 1M? What’s the number?

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## [What will be the long-term effect of sanitizing, disinfecting, and cleaning everything in sight?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-long-term-effect-of-sanitizing-disinfecting-and-cleaning-everything-in-sight/855315)

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**Author:** [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-long-term-effect-of-sanitizing-disinfecting-and-cleaning-everything-in-sight/855315 "2020-07-07T22:20:16Z")

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I’m hoping some of you scientifical types will weigh in on this. It’s my understanding that there’s such a thing as being “too clean,” and that people need to be around a certain amount of dirt, bacteria, germs, etc. I …

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## [Are we going to see a lot more virus liability waivers?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-going-to-see-a-lot-more-virus-liability-waivers/914505)

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**Author:** [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-going-to-see-a-lot-more-virus-liability-waivers/914505 "2020-07-07T20:42:18Z")

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It’s abundantly clear (to me, at least) that large gatherings such as concerts and sporting events will NOT be suspended until a vaccine is found. Given that, for all the fun that was made of Trump’s liability waivers fo…

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## [If Covid immunity lasts only a short time, wouldn't we need vaccinations every few months?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-covid-immunity-lasts-only-a-short-time-wouldnt-we-need-vaccinations-every-few-months/914516)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-covid-immunity-lasts-only-a-short-time-wouldnt-we-need-vaccinations-every-few-months/914516 "2020-07-07T19:26:28Z")

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These articles say Covid immunity may only last a short time: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/immunity-to-the-coronavirus-is-fragile-and-short-lived-immunologist-warns/ar-BB16oSue I am assuming that the body…

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## [Why are meat processing plants such a specific problem area](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-meat-processing-plants-such-a-specific-problem-area/913763)

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**Author:** [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-meat-processing-plants-such-a-specific-problem-area/913763 "2020-07-07T16:30:39Z")

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It’s not only in the US that meat processing plants and abattoirs are hot spots. One of the places in Australia that flared up was a meatworks, and this in a country where community transmission was generally measuring …

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## [Lancaster CA plans to defy LA county order to cancel due to covid 19 and hold fireworks show, mayor says](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lancaster-ca-plans-to-defy-la-county-order-to-cancel-due-to-covid-19-and-hold-fireworks-show-mayor-says/914154)

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**Author:** [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lancaster-ca-plans-to-defy-la-county-order-to-cancel-due-to-covid-19-and-hold-fireworks-show-mayor-says/914154 "2020-07-07T03:31:18Z")

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/weddings/lancaster-plans-to-defy-county-order-and-hold-fireworks-show-mayor-says/ar-BB16hnxU?ocid=hplocalnews This doesn’t surprise me as this is one of 2 big summer events the other …

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## [If your nose isn't covered by your mask, but you only exhale via your mouth will the mask still work](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-nose-isnt-covered-by-your-mask-but-you-only-exhale-via-your-mouth-will-the-mask-still-work/914298)

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**Author:** [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [July 5, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-your-nose-isnt-covered-by-your-mask-but-you-only-exhale-via-your-mouth-will-the-mask-still-work/914298 "2020-07-05T20:18:15Z")

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The mask I wear covers by my nose and mouth, but when I go shopping I’m seeing more and more people wearing masks over their mouths with their noses uncovered. Assuming (and this is probably wrong) that those people are…

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## [COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Recoveries](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-cases-deaths-and-recoveries/913847)

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**Author:** [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-cases-deaths-and-recoveries/913847 "2020-07-04T23:07:26Z")

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Just a quick question, as I have not been following this story that closely lately. Yesterday on FOX, I saw the usual list of total cases and deaths in the US, but also a piece of data that I don’t recall seeing anywhere…

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## [Where do I buy REAL medical-grade masks?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-buy-real-medical-grade-masks/855120)

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**Author:** [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-buy-real-medical-grade-masks/855120 "2020-07-04T04:25:59Z")

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There are a lot of blue face masks for sale on Amazon, but they all seem to carry the disclaimer of “not for medical use - not proven to reduce transmission of disease.” Well, fuck that, I want a real medical mask that i…

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## [China skips phase 3 testing, approves vaccine for use by military](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-skips-phase-3-testing-approves-vaccine-for-use-by-military/913966)

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**Author:** [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-skips-phase-3-testing-approves-vaccine-for-use-by-military/913966 "2020-07-03T17:28:30Z")

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I saw this in the news and was wondering what 'dopers think about it. Apparently, China has waved phase 3 trials and is going ahead with a broader test of a vaccine candidate for use by their military. Also, Brazil mig…

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## [Instead of payroll tax cut, Trump now plans to send checks directly to Americans, soon](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-payroll-tax-cut-trump-now-plans-to-send-checks-directly-to-americans-soon/849678)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 134\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-payroll-tax-cut-trump-now-plans-to-send-checks-directly-to-americans-soon/849678 "2020-07-03T17:11:51Z")

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Plan is for a big cash infusion within the next 2 weeks, because the payroll tax cut plan (which effect would take 6-8 months to percolate through the economy and be felt) was criticized as much too slow.

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## [Let's see your masks](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-see-your-masks/855459)

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**Author:** [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-see-your-masks/855459 "2020-07-03T12:21:09Z")

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I’ve been using good ol’ disposable masks since it was suggested we all wear them. Now, with the need to wear them seemingly extending into who-knows-when, I’ve finally broken down and ordered nice fabric masks: Flowers…

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## [Volunteering question](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/volunteering-question/913867)

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**Author:** [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/volunteering-question/913867 "2020-07-02T20:34:47Z")

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The animal shelter emailed me. I have often fostered for them. They are overwhelmed with abandoned kittens. They asked me if I would consider taking a litter til they are eating normal kitten chow. Does anyone see a CO…

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## [Nice site for comparing countries](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-site-for-comparing-countries/912000)

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**Author:** [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-site-for-comparing-countries/912000 "2020-07-02T20:25:27Z")

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Here’s a good site I found that allows you to compare COVID rates for different countries. I like the fact that each graph starts on the date the country reported it’s 100th case, so the curves are comparable over time. …

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## [Director, Harvard Global Health Institute](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/director-harvard-global-health-institute/913872)

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**Author:** [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/director-harvard-global-health-institute/913872 "2020-07-02T00:43:28Z")

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Dr Jha rated “civilian masks.” The gaiter is least effective! Rats! I just bought some cool ones! They ARE single thickness of a very lightweight polyester. When .i open my mouth to talk (or even breathe!) The fabric g…

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## [Fire and Ice - has there been research into whether Covid-19 will survive freezing or cooking?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fire-and-ice-has-there-been-research-into-whether-covid-19-will-survive-freezing-or-cooking/913981)

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**Author:** [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fire-and-ice-has-there-been-research-into-whether-covid-19-will-survive-freezing-or-cooking/913981 "2020-07-01T22:54:52Z")

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Pretty much what it says on the box - I’m wondering if there have been studies on what temperature range Covid 19 will survive in. Eyes frozen meals worriedly

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## [Unanticipated aspects of a pandemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unanticipated-aspects-of-a-pandemic/849094)

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**Author:** [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Replies:** 176\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unanticipated-aspects-of-a-pandemic/849094 "2020-07-01T17:59:05Z")

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As a result of the coronavirus, more than a quarter of Italy’s population is now prohibited from leaving its region, and public events, including funerals and weddings, are banned. I can hardly keep up with today’s head…

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## [The reawakened task force](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reawakened-task-force/913241)

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**Author:** [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 30, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reawakened-task-force/913241 "2020-06-30T14:21:19Z")

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People: get a clue. The blathering, the charts that we can’t read, the statistics are USELESS to the general public. And Dr Birx, “syndromic presentations”? REALLY? If we have these nitwits running the show, we’re al…

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## [Are you safe if both recently tested?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-safe-if-both-recently-tested/912766)

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**Author:** [@dflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dflower)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-safe-if-both-recently-tested/912766 "2020-06-25T14:55:27Z")

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My sister and I want to visit. My idea is that we both get tested for COVID 19 and when the results are negative we plan the trip. Neither of us has symptoms. Is this necessary? Is it worthwhile? I could have my test on …

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## [A moment of bitter nostalgia... when a CV forum was first proposed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-moment-of-bitter-nostalgia-when-a-cv-forum-was-first-proposed/913432)

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**Author:** [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-moment-of-bitter-nostalgia-when-a-cv-forum-was-first-proposed/913432 "2020-06-28T15:28:46Z")

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I’ll start with my own naively optimistic reply to the question, “Should the SBMB have a (hopefully) temporary Coronavirus forum?” I voted no as did many others because reasons. This was mid-March, or in real time, app…

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## [How do you tell if a washable mask id good & where do you get one?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-tell-if-a-washable-mask-id-good-where-do-you-get-one/855804)

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**Author:** [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-tell-if-a-washable-mask-id-good-where-do-you-get-one/855804 "2020-06-25T20:01:43Z")

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Need answer fast. Really fast. Turns out my summer job is on– I haven’t been getting the emails they’ve been sending out, for some reason-- and it starts next Tuesday. And I’m going to have to wear a mask six hours a da…

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## [The problem with coronavirus is that it's not scary enough](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-coronavirus-is-that-its-not-scary-enough/911648)

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**Author:** [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Replies:** 34\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-coronavirus-is-that-its-not-scary-enough/911648 "2020-06-25T18:32:00Z")

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If this were some disease akin to Ebola, or had frightening symptoms like visible bleeding out of all of one’s skin pores, or some scary-sounding name, Americans would take it a lot more seriously. But the name “coronav…

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## [In the wake of a pandemic could Americans be forced to get a vaccine?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-wake-of-a-pandemic-could-americans-be-forced-to-get-a-vaccine/849249)

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**Author:** [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Replies:** 38\
**Last updated:** [June 24, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-wake-of-a-pandemic-could-americans-be-forced-to-get-a-vaccine/849249 "2020-06-24T01:53:20Z")

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So, it’s 18 months from now and an effective vaccine that isn’t worse than the coronavirus is available. And, unlike the test kits in early 2020 it’s plentiful and error-free. Could the US government look back on the pas…

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## [Where can I find recent historical data?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-recent-historical-data/855481)

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**Author:** [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\
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**Last updated:** [June 23, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-recent-historical-data/855481 "2020-06-23T19:35:04Z")

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There are lots of sites with numbers about this pandemic, but they seem to be of only two types: (a) The grand totals of how many people are infected / diagnosed / tested positive / dead / etc, since the beginning. (b) A…

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## [An example of what can go wrong when restrictions are lifted](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-example-of-what-can-go-wrong-when-restrictions-are-lifted/855730)

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**Author:** [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-example-of-what-can-go-wrong-when-restrictions-are-lifted/855730 "2020-06-23T17:28:55Z")

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In Apopka, FLA last weekend there was a small pop culture/fannish event. This link shows how they handled sanitation, social distancing and the wearing of face masks, or rather how they didn’t handle them. The article …

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## [Anyone but me remember the 1968 flu pandemic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-but-me-remember-the-1968-flu-pandemic/854461)

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**Author:** [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-but-me-remember-the-1968-flu-pandemic/854461 "2020-06-23T04:38:24Z")

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The 1918 “Spanish flu” pandemic was so severe that it overshadows the other 20th century pandemics. One I remember personally is the 1968 flu pandemic as that particular influenza made me pretty sick. When I mention the …

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## [Toilet Plume and the Coronavirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toilet-plume-and-the-coronavirus/855843)

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**Author:** [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toilet-plume-and-the-coronavirus/855843 "2020-06-22T15:59:42Z")

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Here’s the WaPo header: Put a lid on it, folks: Flushing may release coronavirus-containing ‘toilet plumes’ The idea is that if an infected person poops into a toilet, toilet plume (remember Cecil’s column about it?) fr…

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## [The Mom and Pop shops are NOT coming back in my neck of the woods.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mom-and-pop-shops-are-not-coming-back-in-my-neck-of-the-woods/855457)

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**Author:** [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Replies:** 76\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mom-and-pop-shops-are-not-coming-back-in-my-neck-of-the-woods/855457 "2020-06-22T13:34:35Z")

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I’ve been seeing lots of small shops not coming back around here. There’s a taquria and burger place that I used to go to that are gone now. An entire strip mall has died as well. I saw the guys in their trucks tearing…

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## [The idea that many of us had COVID-19 in late Jan/early Feb](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-that-many-of-us-had-covid-19-in-late-jan-early-feb/852342)

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**Author:** [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Replies:** 70\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-that-many-of-us-had-covid-19-in-late-jan-early-feb/852342 "2020-06-18T17:46:20Z")

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With the news from WaPo that the earliest known COVID-19 death is now from early February (in California), I want to readdress this anecdotal notion that’s rampant in comment sections across the internet that many, many …

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## [Corona virus question: Do asymptomatic carriers clear the virus?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corona-virus-question-do-asymptomatic-carriers-clear-the-virus/855904)

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**Author:** [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corona-virus-question-do-asymptomatic-carriers-clear-the-virus/855904 "2020-06-18T14:57:58Z")

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I was reading about Typhoid Mary the other day, about how she spent the last 20 years of her life in quarantine because she was an asymptomatic carrier of typhoid that was unable to clear the bacteria from her body. Thi…

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