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NightUK
09-06-2003, 11:29 AM
Hope this thread is allowed

I have a strange ability which no other can do other than my father. A few years back I done alot of Ecstasy (still do them now and agin), and it appeared to give me a side affect. The night after taking pills, when I went to sleep I could control what I done in my dreams? Basically after what appears to be a short period of time I suddenly become aware that I'm asleep and enjoyed what I done in them! For example once I new I was dreaming, I'd look for the nearest girl in the dream, she may be in a street or in a pub or whatever and start kissing her, my body would try to wake up and I'd get this enormous build of feeling in my chest and strain on my heart but if I concentrated I could stay in the dream and the pain would go. Eventually I would be awaken by the pain and the rush on my chest. This would go on for days and eventually it would go unless I done drugs again. I could only make this happen if I thought about controlling the dream before I go to sleep. Alot of the time I would kind of switch from my dream to my soul if you like and force my way back into my dream. I know I mentioned my father can. Well I mentioned to him that I can do this (obviously not mentioning drugs) and he was astonished as he said he has been doing this for years! My dad is on medication for his nerves and has been for about 20 years now. I'm thinking maybe the drugs are the link? Anyway I want to know if anyone else can do this?

:confused:

Triss
09-06-2003, 11:59 AM
Do a search on Lucid Dreaming. You'll find more info online than you could ever need, including books and instructions about training yourself to have lucid dreams. (While you're at it, maybe do a search on the kind of damage that you may be doing to yourself with the use of E.)

I've gathered that people can train themselves to become Lucid while dreaming fairly easily. I've not done any training but do have the occasional short lucid dream. These are completely spontaneous and no drugs are ever involved.

In your case, it sure does sound like it's the drugs. It hardly seems worth it to me, to continue your use of E in order to do what you can train yourself to do without the use of brain-damaging drugs.

But hey, it's your life.

Lord Ashtar
09-06-2003, 01:45 PM
What the hell, I'll say it.

It's not the drugs. I've had a 1920s style death ray pointed at your bed for the last few months. The radioactivity has been messing with your dreams.

Sorry.

norinew
09-06-2003, 03:32 PM
I have very little experience with illegal drugs, and none with Ecstasy, so I'm pretty sure this example is not drug-driven: for some time after my Mom died, I had dreams about her; they were very unpleasant, for the most part, usually her bitching at me for not living up to her expectations, etc. (funny, it's just what she did when she was alive). I read a mag article on controlling recurring dreams, and started "rehearsing" before going to sleep every night, how I would respond to Mom if she "came back" that night. About a week later, I had a dream about her, and she started in about what a mess the house was. In the dream, I looked at her and said "Mom, you're dead. Please go home now", and she left!! I've had very few dreams about her since then.

Wumpus
09-06-2003, 04:18 PM
I'm often able to realize that I'm dreaming, and from that point I can briefly direct how the dream goes. (But I always wake up before I can do anything really fun. Ah well.)

All this without the benefit of any kind of drug.

Khadaji
09-06-2003, 05:02 PM
For a while I was facinated with the concept of lucid dreaming and practiced at it, with some limited success. Its still facinating to me, but I haven't been trying for a long time.

Mr. Babbington
09-06-2003, 05:37 PM
Kids these days.....Geez....

What's wrong with an old-fashioned absinthe or opium habit?

Capcha
09-06-2003, 09:36 PM
I can control mine too, and like others have mentioned, no drug/medecin use.
I usualy can't contoll everything, just add extras to help me, example: wings to fly, have telekenises, blah blah blah

and even wake myself up if it isn't going good.

Yumblie
09-07-2003, 03:12 AM
Being able to control dreams is something that occurs completely randomly with me. When I do it's always some random burst of enlightenment without any stimulus. I'll suddenly realize "Hey, I'm dreaming!" and proceed to give myself super powers and fly around and do all sorts of cool stuff. Unfortunately, that usually only lasts a few seconds before I wake up.

Sneeze
09-07-2003, 10:36 AM
When I was about 4, I used to have nightmares. The only way I could think of to control them was to teach myself to recognize when I was in a dream, so I could wake myself up. I did this by recognizing that things in the dream were "just too unusual" to be happening in real life. This worked, and I stopped having nightmares.

Now, though, I'll occasionally have other kinds of dreams.;) But since, in my real life, those things are "just too unusual" too, I wake up. Sad, really. I can't even get it in a dream.

NightUK
09-08-2003, 12:55 PM
Wow, I'm not alone then. I do worry about what Im doin to my body but what the heck, you only live once right? I should be able to control my dreams tonight as had some gear last night (on a downer). We'll see what happens ;)

mipiace
09-08-2003, 01:08 PM
I agree with the others about the lucid dreaming. I am pretty successful at it and have practiced it for years. I haven't had a nightmare for about 20 years I think -- at least not one that went too terribly wrong. Even in your dreams it's okay to be scared a little.

Basically I generally let the dreams go where they will because I enjoy them more that way, but when something turns in a direction that I don't enjoy, then I am able to change the course of the dream but I suppose you could control them whatever way you wanted.

It's only a guess, but I would say lucidity is a result of the drugs, it's just that lucid dreaming takes place in a lighter state of REM sleep than normal dreaming. Perhaps (and I have no experience with X to base this) the drugs prohibit you from reaching your normal deep sleep cycle or interfere somehow so that is the correlation you have noticed but really it is completely possible without the drugs. Just practice.

International Playboy
09-08-2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Sneeze
When I was about 4, I used to have nightmares. The only way I could think of to control them was to teach myself to recognize when I was in a dream, so I could wake myself up.

This was happening to me at about that age too. But then somehow, my nightmares would start to trick me. I would become aware that I was dreaming and wake myself up, only to find I was actually still dreaming.

Recently I remember telling people I was with in a dream that it was just that. When they protested, I told them that I knew it was a dream because I could fly. I then started levitating to prove it. Unfortunately, I quickly woke up then. I would like to be able to reach the point of controlling the dreams more without waking up.

Undead
09-08-2003, 04:39 PM
A few years ago I used to take plenty of drugs and never experienced any noticable trend...I am a deep sleeper though so maybe that has something to do with it.

Usually, I can tell if it's a dream, but I can rarely control it/give myself super powers. Believe me, I've tried but I can never pull it off.

I'll think to myself "Hey, this is a dream." And then I will jump up in the air to try and fly away in a beautiful jet stream of glory!!! BUT, I always just end up falling back to the ground and thinking to myself..."wtf, That's not how it works!"

NightUK
09-09-2003, 10:09 AM
Well I cant give myself super powers, I just run for the nearest bird. I tried last night but was unable to control them but Ive only had 4 hours sleep int 72 hours, I will try tonight.

Bruce_Daddy
09-09-2003, 10:17 AM
I was lucid dreaming the other morning and when I realized I was controlling the action I suddenly couldn't think of anything to do. I swear to og, I had a commercial. "Brought to you by M&Ms" complete with a big yellow screen and the M&Ms logo. Freaked me out.

Jennyrosity
09-09-2003, 10:37 AM
Oh dear, NightUK, you worry me. Yes, you only live once, but believe me, there are better ways to spend it. As for the lucid dreaming, I've always been able to do it, - as a kid I had recurring nightmares about sharks, but at some point would realise I was dreaming and fly away (I've always had a lot of flying dreams, too). Slight hj, I've always dreamt in vivid colour but heard recently most people dream in black and white - anyone concur with this?

Undead
09-09-2003, 10:44 AM
I don't think I've ever dreamt in black and white. It's usually very saturated or dull colors though.

catnoe
09-09-2003, 03:40 PM
I don't know when I started 'controlling' my dreams and need more info before I'm sure it's lucid dreaming.

I don't have bad dreams often. One that I can think of in the last 17 years. I tend to know I'm dreaming and can change things if I don't like the direction they are headed.
In sexual dreams my body does respond to what is happening in the dream. There is a small problem I have yet to work out. I can only have sex with my Hubby in these dreams. I get the PG version if another man is involved, 'the lead up' cut to 'the after'. Once I even stopped myself from having sex in a dream when I said to my dream self that I can't have sex with this 'man' because I'm married. Another voice popped in and said' hey, stupid, it's a dream, do what you want' but events in the dream conspired that this should not happen.
The only other person/people I can have sex with is women, something I've never done in real life, nor seen anyone that I'd want to. But oh, the dream sex is good.

Hubby has a nightmare at least twice a month and rarely remembers his dreams. If I could teach him to change his dreams I would but I don't know how I do it.

overlyverbose
09-09-2003, 04:17 PM
I have been able to control my dreams ever since I can remember, and I've never been on any mind-altering drugs, with the exception of seizure medication. But I didn't start having seizures until I was 17, and I've been controlling my dreams since long before that. My mom can, and my grandmother could, as well.

Sometimes I get really deep into dreaming and don't realize I'm dreaming until I feel my body start to wake up (usually happens during especially bad nightmares), but other times I have almost unlimited power over what's going on in my dreams. It's pretty cool.

overlyverbose
09-09-2003, 04:18 PM
I have been able to control my dreams ever since I can remember, and I've never been on any mind-altering drugs, with the exception of seizure medication. But I didn't start having seizures until I was 17, and I've been controlling my dreams since long before that. My mom can, and my grandmother could, as well.

Sometimes I get really deep into dreaming and don't realize I'm dreaming until I feel my body start to wake up (usually happens during especially bad nightmares), but other times I have almost unlimited power over what's going on in my dreams. It's pretty cool.

Also, most of my dreams occur in really vivid color.

overlyverbose
09-09-2003, 04:19 PM
Damn. Sorry about the double (now triple) post!:smack:

sultana of slash
09-09-2003, 05:23 PM
Mr. Sultana was once having a dream at a time when he had been doing a lot of Web site work. He noticed that something in the dream wasn't going well. Oh dear, he said, that won't work. He clicked on the dream, he said, and the HTML screen came up. He looked for the problem, found a comma that oughta be a period, fixed it, clicked to make the HTML screen go away, and went back to the dream.

When I am writing a lot I can not only control my dreams, but I can be several characters in them.

Lobsang
09-10-2003, 12:05 AM
Do you have a newsreading app? try alt.fan.lucid-dreaming (I think that is the right name)

I have had some (less than 10) lucid dreams, none of which have lasted more than what seemed like minutes.

They were very memorable.

Sinshine
09-10-2003, 01:06 AM
I used to have a recurring nightmare, which I would wake up from nearly every night for the better part of a year, in a cold sweat and just terrified. It got so I would fight off sleep because I didn't want the dream. :eek:

Someone suggested that I plan out, before going to bed, what I would do if I were in control of the dream, and imagine it that way every night until I influenced the dream, because the assumption was that if I kept up this exercise, it would work.

I tried it, and it worked. So there, you big bad monster!

NightUK
09-11-2003, 02:49 AM
Well I was able to control a dream last night, but woke up in a hot sweat (nothing dirty thank you). This time I was in an orphanage and was asked by my current manager at work (kind of a headteacher at the orphanage). he asked me to climb up to a high point so I climbed ontop of the building, but then I seen a high building (a bit like 1 of the twin towers) so ran and went in the lift, when it started shooting up, I suddenly thought this is a dream? so I tried to jump out of the glass lift but it wouldnt stop until I made it stop, I climbed onto the top of the building and thought if this is a dream I can run and jumped off, so I did. At this point I started to panic and became unsure if I was dreaming and uncomfortable so I woke myself up. Hope this isnt something to do with Sept 11th.

Tommyturtle
09-11-2003, 03:15 AM
As a kid I had a reoccurring dream where my Mom was driving a car while being chased by a gorilla(don't ask why...no idea) and I KNEW it was a dream but I couldn't change anything

As for a lucid dream I had ONE in my whole life...did alot of flying and beating up my enemies but as I was a teenage male at the time it quickly changed into something I don't want to go into except to say the sheets needed to be changed the next morning

You can bet your behind I tried to duplicate it for the longest time but no joy

Ranchoth
09-11-2003, 03:16 AM
I can, kind of...if I manage to realize that I'm dreaming, I can begin to control the dream. However, the more mentally "awake" I become, the more the dream begins to—literally—fade around me. Then I wake up.

It's very frustrating...but at least I manage to get a few seconds of flight. But just a few seconds. :mad:

What a gyp.

Ranchoth
09-11-2003, 03:18 AM
Oh...and no drugs, for me. Unless you count sugar.

Yllaria
09-11-2003, 03:24 AM
When I first read about lucid dreaming I was shocked. The idea that most people don't know that they're dreaming during a dream was just so odd.

I only remember one dream in my life where I thought I was awake. And I was going through a regular school day in junior high, so you can see that it would be an easy mistake to make. I woke up in the middle of lunch and had the whole day to do again.

I've always known what's about to happen in a dream and even if I couldn't or didn't prevent something I didn't like, I always knew that I was dreaming and wouldn't be hurt. Although there was sort of one exception. Once I was being chased by a burglar and suddenly turned and bit off his thumb. Didn't see that coming at all. No idea that I was going to do it. It was one of the most palpable dreams I've had, too. When I woke up I could still feel it. (Now repeat after me - sometimes a thumb is only a thumb.)

I've been able to rerun bits of dreams and change them rerun by rerun until I got the result I wanted.

I can't fly, but I can float. I've teleported, which feels really weird. The entire universe folds up into the middle of my solar plexus and then unfolds again with me in another location (the scene looks flatish while it's folding)

Trust me, no drugs are necessary.

squeegee
09-11-2003, 03:31 AM
(former) lucid dreamer here:

I had lucid dreams from about 8-ish until my mid-teens, but lost the knack at some point. It was quite fun -- kiss the girls, run around nekkid, flap my arms and fly into the sky. Whee!

Nick

SunTzu2U
09-11-2003, 03:41 AM
A few years back I done alot of Ecstasy (still do them now and agin), and it appeared to give me a side affect. The night after taking pills, when I went to sleep I could control what I done in my dreams?

Your still dreaming. You've burned out those brain cells which used to differentiate whether you were asleep or awake. Now you just go through life asleep and what you thought you did in your sleep you actually did while animated (notice no use of awake). Actually, I think your pod might be malfunctioning. Maybe it needs to referred to an agent. MR. Anderson? :)

t-keela
09-11-2003, 04:21 AM
I've had lucid dreams for nearly as long as I can remember. They got really frequent for awhile in my twenties. What's a trip to me is to be asleep, paralyzed basically, aware of what is going on in the room but unable to respond or wake up.

I got really good at controlling my dreams in my mid thirties. I used to study for exams while sleeping. I found that my subconscious has excellent recall and I could go over notes and work problems in my sleep.

I believe much lucid dreaming is actually a form of self-hypnosis. By establishing a controllable link between the conscious and sub-conscious mind, we have access to data and mental images that are unavailable while awake.

I studied and practiced this phenomenon in depth for many years. My goal of total recall was not reached but I feel like I was on the verge. I picked up a couple of degrees and a master's in clinical psych. on the way. Too many responsibilities and distractions have postponed my pursuit. Hopefully I will be able to continue this pursuit soon. I found that it takes a lot of focus, or a lack of distractions, a peaceful mind and few responsibilities.

I'm still able but not at the same level as before. There also seems to be a link with this ability and various physiological factors.

Fasting and sleep deprivation and/or some particular drugs cause delirium and/or delusions. What the studies can't relate is the experience. While it is true that in many cases the subject's perception of reality is false. What they don't say or believe is that there are often moments of clarity that is similar to what religions refer to as "seeing the light".

of course the DSM would say you had a psychotic episode that was induced.

Since I had experienced brief episodes of clarity and a history of lucid dreaming, NOT INDUCED, I figured why not try induce a few find out.

The longest I ever fasted without sleep (I ate one half cheese sandwich and half hour nap everyday, drank water only plus one multivitamin)...was 28 days.

I can guarantee you that after the third week, (my experience) any barriers between the conscious and subconscious are gone.

I had complete control of myself... ie:I could hop in the car and go visit my folks or whatever, pay bills, work etc.

BUT during meditation or simply quiet contemplation, near total recall is possible. BUT by the end of fourth week...I should've made adjustments to my schedule.

It was over...I had a bad experience that ended it. BUT the link was there for a long time afterwards. A wife and two kids in high school, mortgage, new car payment doctors bills etc...now have pretty much taken any peace of mind away. They'll be graduating soon though.

for what it's worth, I graduated w/ overall at near 4.0 GPA National Deans list degrees in math, psych, physics, and philosophy.

I still get by on about two or three hours sleep daily and I take no drugs. Not that I haven't once upon a time...

Hopefully this is not too far off topic. :)

Trigonal Planar
09-11-2003, 11:14 AM
Take a look at this thread:

Ask the Lucid Dreamer (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165574&highlight=ask+the+lucid+dreamer)

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