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El Zagna
06-29-2005, 10:01 AM
I've never seen the show, but it looks intriguing. I think it's getting ready to start its new season, so can someone give me the set up for it so I won't be lost myself?

msmith537
06-29-2005, 10:41 AM
Basically a trans-oceanic flight from Austrailia goes offcourse and breaks apart mid-air for an as yet unexplained reason. The main passenger section and cockpit crash on a remote island several thousand miles from their expected flight path with about 40 or so survivors with no apparent connection. The tail of the plain is still missing.

There's basically a bunch of funky shit on the island and so far there are other people/things already there.

Each episode generally includes a flashback of a persons life back in the real world, giving some insight into their character


http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index.html

Menocchio
06-29-2005, 11:37 AM
Woof, that's a trall order. Lost is a detailed and complex show, with many open mysteries. I'll try to give a quick overview of the cast and situation.

In short, Oceanic Flight 815 crashed on a mysterious island somewhere between Austrailia and LA. 43 (?) passengers survived the crash, but there's been suggestions that their were also survivors from the rear of the plane.

Here's the major characters:
Jack: The doctor (brunette white guy). Was transporting his father's body back to the states. He has a major hero complex and feels inordinately responsible for tteh otehr survivors.

Locke: Bald guy. Was a paraplegic before the crash, but has somehow regained his ability to walk. Has, or believes he has, a mystic connection to the island, and sometimes forces people into ordeals of self-revelation. Jack thinks Locke is dangerous.

Kate: Brunette woman. A fugitive. Her original crime is unknown. She's highly manipulative, but seems to be an overall good person. Has survival skills second only to Locke.

Sawyer: Southern blonde asshole. A conman who hates himself because he's become exactly like the conman who ruined his family. He's been openly antagonistic towards everyone on the island, but he might be on the path to redemption.

Micheal: The Black Guy. Engineer. Recently reunited with his estranged son after his mother died.

Walt: Micheal's son, the black kid. Over the time on the island has reconnected with his dad. May have strange powers, or it may be all coincidence. For example, he read a comic with polar bears, and then polar bears suddenly attacked on the tropical island.

Sayyid: The Iraqi Guy. Former Iraqi Intelligence officer. Currently romantically involved with Shannon.

Shannon: Blonde American. Very manipulative and shallow. Her stepbrother Boone was killed in an accident involving Locke, and she tried to kill him or have him killed.

Sun: Korean Woman. Wife of Jin. Learned English to escape from Jin in America, and kept taht knowledge secret until late in Season 1. Knows medicinal herbs and is Jack's unofficial nurse.

Jin: Korean Man. A low-class guy who fell in love with a woman above his status, and started working for her father. Unfortunately, Sun's father is some kind of crimelord, and Jin was pulled farther and farther into his world until he nearly lost Sun. He also planned to run away (with Sun) in America, but Sun's father had sent watchdogs to make sure he delivers some watches. He's since reconciled with Sun. He doesn't speak English, but is slowly learning.

Charlie: Hobbit. Washed up rock star and heroin afficianado. He's cleaned up, but has since discovered a huge supply in another crashed plane. In love with Claire.

Clarie: Blonde Austrailian. Had a baby during season 1. The baby may have mystic significance or she may have nearly been victimized by a fake psychic/baby trader. She was briefly kidnapped by Ethan (who has not on the plane) but somehow escaped, without her memories of the ordeal. Charlie later killed Ethan. She hasn't returned Charlie's affections past friendship.

Hurley: The fat guy. Won the lottery using numbers he heard in a mental hospital (he was apparently once an inmate), and has since had horribly bad luck. Hurley's numbers have popped up again and again, in part or in whole, on the island or in the lives of the survivors.

Rousseau: Crazy French Lady. Has been on the island 16 years. Claims that the rest of her expediton was "infected", and that her child "Alex" was taken by the "Others". Kidnapped Claire's baby briefly to trade for Alex. Sayyid and Hurley have good rapport with her.

At the end of the season, Rousseau shows up to warn that the Others are coming. Jin, Micheal, Walt, and Sawyer hatsily finish the raft they were building and set off to find help. Meanwhile, the rest of them use dynamite to blow open a strange hatch in the round (with Hurley's numbers on it) to hide from the others in it. The seafarers are attacked by a ratty looking crew (the Others?), Walt is taken, and the raft burned. The Hatch is opened, revealing a dark passage leading deep into the Earth.

El Zagna
06-29-2005, 02:05 PM
Wow, thanks for that thorough answer, Menocchio. Sounds like this is the kind of show that you need to watch regularly as opposed to just catching it when you can.

UncleRojelio
06-29-2005, 02:58 PM
I think it's getting ready to start its new season

Really? I thought the new season started in the Fall.

Sam Lowry
06-29-2005, 03:59 PM
Wow, thanks for that thorough answer, Menocchio. Sounds like this is the kind of show that you need to watch regularly as opposed to just catching it when you can.

I would say that it is definitely a show that you need to watch regularly. There is usually a "previously on Lost" that goes over some of the main things that will be referenced in that episode, but I don't know how helpful they are if you haven't seen previous episodes.

You could probably just watch the show when possible and miss some episodes, but that means that you will have a lot of "what is going on?!?!" moments in the episodes you do watch. It is an excellent show though, so I would highly recommend you watching it if at all possible.

And I think the second season is starting in September, though I'm not positive.

Ethilrist
06-29-2005, 04:13 PM
Plus, the 1st season DVD is coming out this fall. Hopefully, before the second season starts.

Odinoneeye
06-29-2005, 04:14 PM
What might be a good idea is get the Season 1 DVD when it comes out, it's supposed to come out about the same time the new season starts. That way you can catch up all in one shot.

Oslo Ostragoth
06-30-2005, 01:45 AM
Sounds like this is the kind of show that you need to watch regularly as opposed to just catching it when you can.
Absolutely. It's like watching a school of dophins racing Jacques Cousteau's boat: the dolphins (the plot lines) weave around and over and under each other, breaking the surface occasionally (the characters' back stories are shown to explain the characters' present motives, actions and interactions with each other), while the plot races ahead at breakneck speed.

I recommend that people watch the previous week's episode, watch the current episode, and rewatch it again from tape to absorb as much of the details as possible.

Yes, I am a fanatic about this show. It's gonna be a loooooooooooooong summer.

Cunctator
06-30-2005, 02:18 AM
In short, Oceanic Flight 815 crashed on a mysterious island somewhere between Austrailia and LA.I haven't seen this show. Viewers are expected to believe that a mysterious, uncharted island exists somewhere between Australia and LA? :confused:

Hello Again
06-30-2005, 09:51 AM
The plane "turned back towards Fiji" and was blown miles and miles off course in a storm before crashing.

Hampshire
06-30-2005, 10:02 AM
The individual show recaps on the abc website are a good place to start.
I'd take the time and read all (28?) of them.
It will take some time to get through them all but by the time your finished you should have a good grip on the show.

Draelin
06-30-2005, 10:03 AM
I haven't seen this show. Viewers are expected to believe that a mysterious, uncharted island exists somewhere between Australia and LA? :confused:
It may be an island, they may be in purgatory, they may have been kidnapped by aliens. That's not important right now. :)

The DVD comes out on September 6th, I believe, and Season 2 probably won't start until later in the month--you may just have time to catch up.

Hampshire
06-30-2005, 10:10 AM
24 40 minute episodes plus an 80 minute finale.

Damn, that's over 16 1/2 hours to get caught up before season 2 starts.
Good luck!!

msmith537
06-30-2005, 02:25 PM
It may be an island, they may be in purgatory, they may have been kidnapped by aliens. That's not important right now. :)



That's what a lot of people think, but according to the interviews with the writers/producers, that probably isn't true.

Draelin
06-30-2005, 02:30 PM
That's what a lot of people think, but according to the interviews with the writers/producers, that probably isn't true.
I don't think that myself, I was just giving the various reasons nobody knows this island exists. :)

Finagle
06-30-2005, 02:50 PM
I haven't seen this show. Viewers are expected to believe that a mysterious, uncharted island exists somewhere between Australia and LA? :confused:


Island is mysterious. It's not necessarily uncharted, but because the plane was 1000 miles off course, no one is looking for them anywhere near the island.

There are other reasons to think that the writers' grasp of geography might be a bit tenuous, though. Somehow, an airplane smuggling drugs from Africa ended up on the island. You have to really be screwing up your navigation to get that lost. Similarly, a sailing vessel carrying slaves ended up on the island and there just weren't that many slave ships in the middle of the Pacific.

ouryL
06-30-2005, 03:03 PM
You may get the impression that the writers of Lost never expected the series to run past a few episodes. :rolleyes: :dubious: :p

Odinoneeye
06-30-2005, 04:21 PM
I haven't seen this show. Viewers are expected to believe that a mysterious, uncharted island exists somewhere between Australia and LA? :confused:

This question has been questioned by the chracters in the show. When the four characters go off on the raft, one of them says something like "How could an island this big not be charted?"

There are lots of things that happen that stretch the boundries of logic, but it's part of the mystery of the island.

Menocchio
06-30-2005, 04:26 PM
You may get the impression that the writers of Lost never expected the series to run past a few episodes. :rolleyes: :dubious: :p

While the backstory of the island has barely been scratched, the individual character arcs and backstories have been well-developed enough to give me faith that the writers have at least a vague plan and idea of what's going on and what's going to happen. That's the real reason to watch this show, btw. Come for the mysterious island, stay for the outstanding character work. Locke in paticular is a great character, wonderfully acted.

I wouldn't be too intimidated by all the details. Yeah, there's a lot of it, but there's a lot of holes and mysteries even for the most faithful watchers. I started watching about halfway through season one, got hooked immediately, and caught up on reruns and downloaded episodes. I think they're rerunning now over the summer. You can tune in.

Menocchio
06-30-2005, 04:33 PM
This question has been questioned by the chracters in the show. When the four characters go off on the raft, one of them says something like "How could an island this big not be charted?"

There are lots of things that happen that stretch the boundries of logic, but it's part of the mystery of the island.

That's another endearing thing about the show. I think the writers hang around Internet forums, because whenever something defies logic or something, someone will eventually question or joke about it in character. Hurley has a great monologue about how everyone's acting like everything's normal when it obviously isn't, and a non-main cast survivor berates a regular for acting like everything's about them, when there's some thirty other survivors that they never seem to interact with!

Draelin
06-30-2005, 04:42 PM
That's another endearing thing about the show. I think the writers hang around Internet forums ...
My favorite was how we (and I'm certain, other forums) started calling the unidentified survivors "Redshirts," and not three episodes later, Boone made a joke of it.

Well, that, and the "Why isn't Hurley losing weight?" question.

Cunctator
06-30-2005, 07:45 PM
The plane "turned back towards Fiji" and was blown miles and miles off course in a storm before crashing.

It's not necessarily uncharted, but because the plane was 1000 miles off course, no one is looking for them anywhere near the island.

All the same, the whole premise still sounds pretty ridiculous.

ivylass
06-30-2005, 08:01 PM
If you can't catch the repeats on ABC during the summer, you can read the most excellent recaps on Television Without Pity (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=136). I think they're sorted so the most recent one is first. They're rather long, anywhere from 15-20 pages, but boy, do they cover every nuance, with entertaining snarkiness along the way.

ivylass
06-30-2005, 08:03 PM
Absolutely. It's like watching a school of dophins racing Jacques Cousteau's boat: the dolphins (the plot lines) weave around and over and under each other, breaking the surface occasionally (the characters' back stories are shown to explain the characters' present motives, actions and interactions with each other), while the plot races ahead at breakneck speed.



I just wanted to say this is a lovely analogy. Thank you!

Menocchio
06-30-2005, 08:06 PM
All the same, the whole premise still sounds pretty ridiculous.

Well, the show would've suffered some if they were met by natives who took them until a ship could be arranged to take them home. :rolleyes:

Sir Dirx
06-30-2005, 10:38 PM
For those interested (and I know I am now), I just checked on the reruns: According to Yahoo's tv schedules, the they're on Wednesdays at 10pm (Eastern time). The one for next week is "House of the Rising Sun," which is apparently episode 6.

Fredescu
06-30-2005, 11:14 PM
All the same, the whole premise still sounds pretty ridiculous.

If you think of it more as a fantasy than 'Survivor with a script', then it's not so ridiculous. There are all sorts of theories as to what the island actually is, from perjury to an alien space ship. We don't have the full story yet, but suffice it to say this is not your normal island. From that point of view it's just as 'ridiculous' as the land of Narnia, Oz, Mordor, or the Delta Quadrant.

In the meantime there are excellent characters, great dialog, and a suspenseful (if a bit drawn out) plot. Best TV series I've seen in years.

Oslo Ostragoth
06-30-2005, 11:49 PM
I just wanted to say this is a lovely analogy. Thank you!
[blush] You're welcome.

irishgirl
07-01-2005, 07:23 AM
It's not a bloody documentary.
Think Gilligan's Island, Fantasy Island, The Man from UNCLE, Alias, Buffy etc. All set in our world, but requiring a certain suspension of belief in order to enjoy properly.

It's story. A very well acted, intriguingly plotted story, but a story none the less.
Don't try and pick holes in it, just enjoy it.

From what I gather the writers have a 3 series story arc planned. They know where this is going, even if we don't.

http://www.thefuselage.com is the Lost message board. The actors and writers sometimes post, if that appeals to you.

There is a lot of stuff that could be red herrings or it could be vital, but hasn't been explored yet.
Adam & Eve
White vs Black
The "monster"
The numbers
Why the ship and plane?

Looking forward to more answers, but the next series will probably ask more than it answers.

melondeca
07-01-2005, 09:15 AM
I am another person who has never seen "Lost" but finds the premise intriguing.

Before reading this thread, I never realized there was so much mysticism and fantasy involved.
How are they (producers, writers, etc.) able to pull this off without it coming across as...(for lack of a better word) hokey?

I had assumed (I know, I know) that this show would be, as Fredescu said, "Survivor with a script". The additional mysterious plotlines help me to understand how the show can carry on into a second season.

I do believe that season 1 will be going on my wishlist.

fusoya
07-01-2005, 10:23 AM
I initially passed on this show because I was told that it was basically a celebrity-Survivor, and the only real celebrity they could get was "the guy from Lord of the Rings". When this show became a hit, I realized that I was greatly deceived, but also decided to hold off on watching it, since I really couldn't fit another tv show into my busy schedule. A couple weeks ago, I downloaded the entire season, and I got so hooked that I watched the entire season in a week, in 4-5 episode marathons. It's good stuff.

Menocchio
07-01-2005, 10:52 AM
I am another person who has never seen "Lost" but finds the premise intriguing.

Before reading this thread, I never realized there was so much mysticism and fantasy involved.
How are they (producers, writers, etc.) able to pull this off without it coming across as...(for lack of a better word) hokey?


It's very understated. We, the viewers, tend to latch on to the strange details and obsess about their possible meaning and symbolism, but the chracters, for the most part, are too caught up with the daily tasks of survival, interpersonal relationships, and trying to get off the island to really notice or care.

It should be noted that nothing explictly supernatural or even science-fictiony has happened. Walt's "powers" and Hurley's strange luck might be really big coincidences. There might be a mundane explanation for it all (although that seems less likely with each episode), and the characters, being "rational" people, tend to assume that there is one.

The two characters that do really believe that there's a mystic force on the island are Locke and Hurley. Locke gets carried through on the strength of Terry O'Quinn's performance, and Hurley covers it up with humor. He's the viewer's self-identification character, cracking jokes and admitting that things are stranger than the others will admit.

melondeca
07-01-2005, 11:15 AM
I see. Sounds good to me. Now it is definitely going on the wish list.

irishgirl
07-01-2005, 11:32 AM
Locke... the best character and the best acting you will see on TV outside of Deadwood.

Also, it's made clear from the beginning that the peole the series focuses on are the self-appointed leaders of the group (like the cool kids in school), they keep a lot of secrets from the rest of the group.

Typified by Hurley's "Dude, you didn't hear about the Polar bear?" to one of the redshirts in an episode near the end.

Plus, it's set over only 40 days, so you can imagine that many of the characters are suffering PTSD, head trauma, grief reactions etc and that some of the weirder stuff is just going to go over their heads.






Nred detail: It was actually a joke on many levels when Boone explained to Locke what a "redshirt" is, as Terry O'Quinn played an evil Starfleet admiral in an episode of ST:TNG.

Smeghead
07-01-2005, 02:21 PM
I usually compare the show to The X-Files when describing it to people - no matter what we think is going on, there's always some other explanation out there.

I could explain further, but it's complicated. I just can't be Arzt.


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