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Plynck
07-02-2005, 05:22 PM
Well, it's summer rerun time, and that's when I take a certain amount of schadenfreude in predicting which Fall television shows won't make it for a full season, based upon their capsule descriptions. Let's face it, most of the time it's shooting fish in a barrel, but there are occasional surprises:

Hack. Who would have thought that a vigilante cab driver would have made it out of the idea stage, let alone last a couple of years? Mostly on the talent of David Morse and Andre Braugher, but that one surprised me (with its staying power, I still think it was a piece of crap).

Alias. A spy show by the creator of Felicity? Whoda thunkit? And I'm still watching it, and now Abrams can do whatever the hell he wants...

So, here are the links:

ABC (http://abc.go.com/primetime/schedule/2005-06/index.html)

CBS (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2005/)

NBC (http://www.nbc.com/Fall/)

For ABC, I'm voting for Commander-In-Chief, with Geena Davis. Just too Hillary for most folks, I think, and you have to be smart if you're doing political drama. And a show about a woman balancing the needs of being a good mom while serving as the Commander In Chief just isn't.

For CBS, I was tempted to vote for Closer to Home, but I'm not sure I want to vote against Bruckheimer. I'm voting for Ghost Whisperer, with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Kinda like Patricia Arquette, but more top-heavy.

For NBC, aww WTF, I'm voting against Bruckheimer after all with E-Ring. Dennis Hopper on TV? And he can't swear or take drugs and he has to wear a uniform? He'll implode before the season is over.

Any others?

Otto
07-02-2005, 05:46 PM
All the new shows look absolutely wretched.

Menocchio
07-02-2005, 06:31 PM
All the new shows look absolutely wretched.

I agree.

Threshold, Kolchak, and Invasion all might be good. Or they might be insipid attempts to repeat Lost and/or the X-Files. I'm guessing the latter.

Likewise, E-Ring might be good if written intelligently. "Bruckheimer" and "intelligent" are seldom seen in the same sentence.

Good call on Commander in Chief. I'd be very surprised if that had any quality at all.

The depressing thing here is that there's nothing new here. Medium and Lost were two big hits last year, so we've got a string of supernatural thrillers. The West Wing was a big hit, and remains fairly popular, so we've got political dramas like E-Ring and Commander in Chief.

And then there's the regular crop of banal sitcoms and hour-long romantic comedies. Can we at least try something new? I'm already watching the shows I like. I don't need a dozen more just like them.

Superdude
07-02-2005, 06:46 PM
I thought Jason Lee had more sense than that.

silenus
07-02-2005, 06:50 PM
I thought Jason Lee had more sense than that.

R-i-i-ight! (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/lee_j.htm) :D

Evil Captor
07-02-2005, 06:58 PM
Threshold and Surface look like they could be good, but the networks will probably find some way to stink them up.

With the caveat that there may be some hidden quality that will make these shows better than their precis make them look:

ABC Bomb -- Night Stalker. Looks like they took the fun and whimsy elements that made the stories fun to watch and elevated it to serious demon stalking. In other words, dull.

CBS Bomb -- How I Met Your Mother -- Great idea for a movie or TV movie. But a series? One trick pony will fold quickly if there's not something more to it.

Four Kings -- Four guys are really good buddies and hang around. Another show about nothing, it sounds like. But unless they have Seinfeldian writing talent at work, there's no "there" there.

Basically, all of the shows look like losers except Threshold and Surface.

Superdude
07-02-2005, 08:11 PM
R-i-i-ight! (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/lee_j.htm) :D


Great. Now I can wipe Marisol Nichols and Erika Christensen off of my "I'd Slit My Mother's Throat to Spend A Weekend In An Anonymous Hotel Room With a Case of Vaseline and This Girl" list.

pinkfreud
07-02-2005, 08:18 PM
For ABC, I'm voting for Commander-In-Chief, with Geena Davis. Just too Hillary for most folks, I think, and you have to be smart if you're doing political drama. If you're implying that Geena Davis isn't smart, you're way off. She's a member of Mensa.

Plynck
07-02-2005, 09:36 PM
If you're implying that Geena Davis isn't smart, you're way off. She's a member of Mensa.
Hmmm, I reread my post and I'm not sure how you interpreted my comment that way. However, let's try it again...

What I was implying is that a political drama (or sitcom for that matter) has to be smart and engaging or it will self destruct. Look at The West Wing; most of the episodes are fast, witty, and very well written, and the few that aren't land like lead balloons. I think that this show will eventually devolve into predictable pap like Mom agonizing over not spending enough quality time with the husband and the kids, making time for quick little picnics with the family and a few dozen Secret Service agents, getting advice on getting along with others from the cute but wise 6 year old, ad nauseum...

I like Geena Davis too. I'm sure she is smart. But looking at the premise of this show, she's probably hungry as well.

Wolfian
07-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Great. Now I can wipe Marisol Nichols and Erika Christensen off of my "I'd Slit My Mother's Throat to Spend A Weekend In An Anonymous Hotel Room With a Case of Vaseline and This Girl" list.
Leah Remini? Lynsey Bartilson? Noooooo!!!

Superdude
07-02-2005, 10:29 PM
Lynsey Bartilson? Noooooo!!!

I LOVE this quote:

"One time I was filming a movie called, Mrs. Santa Clause with Angela Lansbury. She was in the middle of a big emotional scene with me and a fly fell on my nose during a take. I just kept going and didn't worry about it. If I had started laughing or something it would have been awful, because everyone was very uptight and nervous. Scientology helped me to be able to confront ANY situation."

Sam Lowry
07-02-2005, 10:34 PM
I thought Jason Lee had more sense than that.

All the reviews I've read so far have said that My Name is Earl (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460091/) is pretty good and one of the shows to actually watch this fall. Maybe the various reviewers just liked it in comparison to the other awful pilots they had to watch, but it sounds funny to me, and I'll give it a watch or two.

Harborwolf
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Damnit. ABC had to ruin the best night of television ever. I used to be able to watch Lost at 8, Mythbusters at 9, and Alton Brown at 10. Now they've gone and screwed it up. :mad:

And shame on Jason Lee. A crappy sitcom on NBC? I don't think it'll last a month, which is good as it will open up room to bring Scrubs back to the lineup.

Wolfian
07-02-2005, 10:59 PM
Sorry about the hijack, but great Xenu, I had the biggest crush on Lynsey Bartilson (the daughter from Grounded for Life) and Leah Remini was the only reason I watched King of Queens for that half-season.

Random thoughts as I go:
ABC
-Invasion: The 4400 called. They want their idea back.
-Emily's...: The novel may bring in the women. Heather Graham may bring in the men. Good writing may keep both. My fingers are crossed.
-Commander in Chief: I'll give it a try, but I'm not hopeful.
-In Justice: Good idea. See my thoughts on Commander in Chief.

CBS and my computer arenít getting along.

NBC
-Surface: Yawn. Tell you what: include a talking dolphin, Aquaman, and her (http://www.aspenstore.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=231) and weíll talk. My pick to bomb.
-The Apprentice: Martha Stewart: This is going to be a hit. Curse you, American people!

What? No Fox (http://www.fox.com/schedule/schedule_fall.htm)?
-The War at Home: Confessionals?! It worked for Drawn Together, but with a live action show? BOOM!
-Arrested Development: ITSí BACK! ITSí BACK! Just felt like celebrating. Portia díRossi isnít a scientologist, but she is a lesbian. :Grumble:
-Reunion: See Commander in Chief.


Superdude, I didnít think she was a Mensa member I just wanted to nail her. Mmmm, redheads.

Superdude
07-02-2005, 11:03 PM
Superdude, I didnít think she was a Mensa member I just wanted to nail her. Mmmm, redheads.

Hey, I love redheads as much as - if not more than - the average guy. But I prefer Kate Winslet or Angie Everhart.

drewbert
07-02-2005, 11:12 PM
Threshold and Surface look like they could be good, but the networks will probably find some way to stink them up.::mumbles something inarticulate and disparaging regarding Brannon Braga, Star Trek, and stinkage::

DMark
07-03-2005, 01:15 AM
Another little known fact (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/news/1999/08/05/davis_archery_ap/) about Geena Davis.

The only reason I am dubious about the success of the show is the fact that it is a bit too West Wing...then again, I think West Wing will go off the air the minute Martin Sheen leaves, so who knows...maybe Geena will pick up where West Wing left off.

Actually, I am more surprised about the crap that is remaining on the air (King Of Queens is still there?!)...and the Martha Stewart thing looks horrible, but I pretty much hate all reality shows so my bias might be entering into my hope prediction it will be a bomb.

Typo Negative
07-03-2005, 01:33 AM
If you're implying that Geena Davis isn't smart, you're way off. She's a member of Mensa.
Then how do you explain Cutthroat Island?

ISiddiqui
07-03-2005, 02:13 AM
I read the blurb of "Commander-in-Chief", ugh. Apparently the President who is dying and handing Davis the job wants her to step down and so just most of her party. So she's going to be fighting her own party as well. Geena against the world. It just seems like it'll be too cheesy.

jayjay
07-03-2005, 02:35 AM
Then how do you explain Cutthroat Island?

She'll do anything for love? Of course, that doesn't explain how Renny Harlin manages to get any other actor to agree to appear in his movies...

Snooooopy
07-03-2005, 02:40 AM
She'll do anything for love? Of course, that doesn't explain how Renny Harlin manages to get any other actor to agree to appear in his movies...

Three-ways?

jayjay
07-03-2005, 02:47 AM
Three-ways?

I don't think Matthew Modine swings that way. :D

Smeghead
07-03-2005, 03:28 AM
I seriously doubt that this so-called "ABC's NFL Monday Night Football" will have any real staying power.

FriarTed
07-03-2005, 01:31 PM
I am not ashamed to say I want GHOST WHISPERER to flop REALLY big only as proof that Joan's God is indeed a Vengeful and Just Deity.

ouryL
07-03-2005, 05:14 PM
Well, it's summer rerun time, and that's when I take a certain amount of schadenfreude in predicting which Fall television shows won't make it for a full season, based upon their capsule descriptions. Let's face it, most of the time it's shooting fish in a barrel, but there are occasional surprises:

Hack. Who would have thought that a vigilante cab driver would have made it out of the idea stage, let alone last a couple of years? Mostly on the talent of David Morse and Andre Braugher, but that one surprised me (with its staying power, I still think it was a piece of crap).

Alias. A spy show by the creator of Felicity? Whoda thunkit? And I'm still watching it, and now Abrams can do whatever the hell he wants...

So, here are the links:

ABC (http://abc.go.com/primetime/schedule/2005-06/index.html)

CBS (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2005/)

NBC (http://www.nbc.com/Fall/)

For ABC, I'm voting for Commander-In-Chief, with Geena Davis. Just too Hillary for most folks, I think, and you have to be smart if you're doing political drama. And a show about a woman balancing the needs of being a good mom while serving as the Commander In Chief just isn't.

For CBS, I was tempted to vote for Closer to Home, but I'm not sure I want to vote against Bruckheimer. I'm voting for Ghost Whisperer, with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Kinda like Patricia Arquette, but more top-heavy.

For NBC, aww WTF, I'm voting against Bruckheimer after all with E-Ring. Dennis Hopper on TV? And he can't swear or take drugs and he has to wear a uniform? He'll implode before the season is over.

Any others?

What CBS? No new CSI's? Did you run out of Who songs? :p :p :p

DoctorJ
07-03-2005, 05:41 PM
I don't know that it looks any sillier than most years.

There seem to be a shit-ton of new ensemble dramas where lots of weird, unexplained stuff happens. On the one hand, it's unlikely any of them will rise to the level of Lost; on the other, maybe one of them will.

I can't believe NBC is just planning to just stick Scrubs in somewhere. I'll grant that it may not have more than a year or two left in it before it gets played out, but it's the best comedy they have by a longshot. Yet they treat it like it's filler. The least that it deserves is a consistent time slot.

Menocchio
07-03-2005, 06:43 PM
What CBS? No new CSI's? Did you run out of Who songs? :p :p :p

CSI: Cleveland was supposed to have "Mama's Got a Squeezebox", but all those who have seen the pilot went mad and ate their own faces.

Silentgoldfish
07-04-2005, 06:14 AM
I can't believe NBC is just planning to just stick Scrubs in somewhere. I'll grant that it may not have more than a year or two left in it before it gets played out, but it's the best comedy they have by a longshot. Yet they treat it like it's filler. The least that it deserves is a consistent time slot.

The good news at least is that the guy who created it said in an interview said that it pulls down good enough ratings that it'll never be cancelled outright, and he has enough experience with the TV game that he's probably right. Now if only he had a more memorable name!

middleman
07-04-2005, 11:20 AM
I seriously doubt that this so-called "ABC's NFL Monday Night Football" will have any real staying power.

I predict it will only last one season on ABC, and then force a move to NBC. NBC will then switch it Sunday nights, replace half of the cast and go onto a long run.

Kind of like the times it lost JAG and Baywatch....

thwartme
07-04-2005, 01:03 PM
I've seen pilot screeners for Everybody Hates Chris (http://www.tv.com/everybody-hates-chris/show/34457/summary.html), Prison Break (http://www.tv.com/prison-break/show/31635/summary.html) and Supernatural (http://www.tv.com/supernatural/show/30144/summary.html) .

Of them Supernatural is the only one that I really enjoyed, and even that wasn't anything earth-shattering.

Mostly, I'm excited about returning shows. Less than two weeks 'til new Battlestar!

thwartme

Catamount
07-04-2005, 06:27 PM
I'm not good at predicting (see my current Death Pool standings), but I don't see much hope for Everybody Hates Chris surviving past December.

Personally, I haven't felt much enthusiasm for television since Star Trek and MST3K went down.

Smeghead
07-05-2005, 01:44 AM
Mostly, I'm excited about returning shows. Less than two weeks 'til new Battlestar!


Holy crap, I'd forgotten! WOO!!!!

Cat Whisperer
07-05-2005, 01:23 PM
CSI: Cleveland was supposed to have "Mama's Got a Squeezebox", but all those who have seen the pilot went mad and ate their own faces.
I'm having a vision with Drew Carey in it here - it's not clear, but he's in it somewhere.

Hey, It's That Guy!
07-05-2005, 01:43 PM
The good news at least is that the guy who created it said in an interview said that it pulls down good enough ratings that it'll never be cancelled outright, and he has enough experience with the TV game that he's probably right. Now if only he had a more memorable name!

Bill Lawrence is the creator of Scrubs.

Scott Plaid
07-05-2005, 02:40 PM
What? No Fox (http://www.fox.com/schedule/schedule_fall.htm)?It just wouldn't be Fox without a canceled, but brilliant show, so I predict either American Dad, or Mad Tv will increase in quality, then get canceled two weeks later.

Wolfian
07-05-2005, 02:49 PM
No, no Scott, its going to be Arrested Development. It'll go out strong though and fans will threaten to storm Rupert's office unless all the episodes are shown.

Scott Plaid
07-05-2005, 02:54 PM
No, no, no. The Fox philosophy is to cancel a show just as it is getting good. To cancel a show after it has risked cancellation, and has been good for a long time misses the whole point! :p

MovieMogul
07-05-2005, 02:55 PM
I've already heard CiC referred to derisively as The Breast Wing. That and the fact that everything Geena Davis has been associated with in the last decade has been unilaterally unbearable, and even a promising supporting cast does not bode well.

Plynck
07-05-2005, 03:23 PM
I've seen pilot screeners for Everybody Hates Chris (http://www.tv.com/everybody-hates-chris/show/34457/summary.html), Prison Break (http://www.tv.com/prison-break/show/31635/summary.html) and Supernatural (http://www.tv.com/supernatural/show/30144/summary.html)
Of them Supernatural is the only one that I really enjoyed, and even that wasn't anything earth-shattering.


Prison Break. Yeah, how did I miss that? With Dominic Purcell from John Doe, another production doomed to extinction...

Eve
07-05-2005, 03:54 PM
OK, here's my picks for next season:

She's the Fuhrer
Geena Davis as Eva Braun, who takes over the Third Reich after Hitler dies in an amusing Blitz accident.

Boo!
The ghost of a murder victim solves murders.

CSI East Bumfuck, Kansas
Crack team of crime-solvers sits around and waits for one of the town's five residents to start murdering someone.

ouryL
07-05-2005, 04:24 PM
OK, here's my picks for next season:

She's the Fuhrer
Geena Davis as Eva Braun, who takes over the Third Reich after Hitler dies in an amusing Blitz accident.

Boo!
The ghost of a murder victim solves murders.

CSI East Bumfuck, Kansas
Crack team of crime-solvers sits around and waits for one of the town's five residents to start murdering someone.

:confused: What Who song did it feature? :eek:

jlsmith57
07-05-2005, 05:03 PM
ABC Bomb -- Night Stalker. Looks like they took the fun and whimsy elements that made the stories fun to watch and elevated it to serious demon stalking. In other words, dull.


I actually got to preview this show, just the first episode. It was alright but I could see it getting really bad if they go in the wrong direction in further episodes.

Tentacle Monster
07-05-2005, 05:29 PM
CSI East Bumfuck, Kansas
Crack team of crime-solvers sits around and waits for one of the town's five residents to start murdering someone.

What Who song did it feature?

Fiddle About, from Tommy.

Let's just say the test audience of CSI: Cleveland were the lucky ones.

wonky
07-05-2005, 08:37 PM
Boo!
The ghost of a murder victim solves murders.


My god, woman, don't give them ideas!

Captain Lance Murdoch
07-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Inconceivable. I told my wife that looked it like a crappy comedy. She expressed doubt that it is a comedy. Maybe it's just a joke. Either way, it looks like a bowel movement.

The Earl show looks promising.

For me the big news is that Veronica Mars is coming back despite finishing 184th in the ratings this year.

ISiddiqui
07-05-2005, 10:25 PM
The only way "Inconcievable" ends up being any good is if it is actually a show about the Adventures of Fezzik, Vizzini, and Inigo Montoya ;).

Rubystreak
07-05-2005, 11:30 PM
CBS Bomb -- How I Met Your Mother -- Great idea for a movie or TV movie. But a series? One trick pony will fold quickly if there's not something more to it.

But it has Alyson Hannigan! And Jason Segel from Freaks & Geeks. I really hope it's good because I like both of these actors.

Honestly, I have no idea which of these will be worth watching. I'll probably give How I Met... a chance, Reunion sounds interesting if they can pull it off, and Criminal Minds could be cool considering that it's got Mandy Patinkin. Probably one of the alien/supernatural ones will be good. Anyone have any idea which ones to bother with?

wonky
07-06-2005, 06:07 AM
For me the big news is that Veronica Mars is coming back despite finishing 184th in the ratings this year.

Only this time, it'll be up against Lost. It isn't gonna be pretty.

Scott Plaid
07-06-2005, 07:24 AM
Probably one of the alien/supernatural ones will be good. Anyone have any idea which ones to bother with?My Secret Identity is being renewed? Yeeesss! :D

Dr. Rieux
07-06-2005, 12:33 PM
:confused: What Who song did it feature? :eek:
"Now I'm a Farmer" (from Odds and Sods)?

wonky
10-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Have anyone's predictions come true? I think most of the shows mentioned are actually doing fairly well. Except for Veronica, of course, but we saw that coming.

Evil Captor
10-07-2005, 03:06 PM
Have anyone's predictions come true? I think most of the shows mentioned are actually doing fairly well. Except for Veronica, of course, but we saw that coming.

Head Cases is the only show I know of to be cancelled so far. Don't know about the rest, prolly too early to tell.

Earl Snake-Hips Tucker
10-07-2005, 03:12 PM
I think "Inconceivable" has been pulled, but not officially canceled.

wonky
10-07-2005, 03:36 PM
"Sex, Lies, and Secrets" and "Just Legal" have been yanked, I guess.

"Prison Break," "Earl," "Supernatural," and "Chris" have all be picked up for a full season.

Plynck
10-07-2005, 03:59 PM
Have anyone's predictions come true? I think most of the shows mentioned are actually doing fairly well. Except for Veronica, of course, but we saw that coming.In my OP, I picked Commander-In-Chief, E-Ring, and Ghost Whisperer. I'm stickin' with 'em.

-CIC isn't saying anything that isn't already being said by The West Wing.

-GW is "Medium meets Touched by an Angel" (with extra treacle, please).

-And I mean it, Dennis Hopper will implode. You heard it here first.

I saw the premiere for Closer to Home the other night; I'm partly wishing that I had had the courage of my convictions to stay with that one.

OTOH, immdiately upon seeing the pilot to Prison Break, I regretted my prediction that it would bomb. Although right now my like for the show is that it was only sold as a filler until 24 begins in January. I don't know how they can extend it to a full season, let alone a second season.

Don Draper
10-07-2005, 04:00 PM
R-i-i-ight! (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/lee_j.htm) :D

I'm sorry about this hijack, but OMG...Bart Simpson (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/cartwright.htm) is a scientologist?????

Odinoneeye
10-07-2005, 04:11 PM
I'm sorry about this hijack, but OMG...Bart Simpson (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/cartwright.htm) is a scientologist?????

Don't forget Chef (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/hayes.htm)

DMark
10-07-2005, 04:32 PM
I think Threshold won't last much longer, and Invasion might not cut it either. Surface seems to be the only one of the three that might hang in there for awhile.

How I Met Your Mother was kinda ok for the first two episodes, but the joke is wearing thin quickly and after the third episode, I am not sure I am up for a 4th. Same with Out Of Practice - some good actors in a crappy show, but the last episode had at least a few chuckles, so I will try another week or so.

Commander In Chief is surprisingly good so for - a personal family story, as well as some major political backstabbing - sort of West Wing meets Dynasty. Waiting for Gena Davis and Donald Sutherland to have a mud fight in the Rose Garden.

Prison Break is still keeping my attention, and if for no other reason than to see how this season ends - but also wonder how they intend to work a season two out of this, should it get picked up.

Ghost Whisperer - well, I like Medium better, but that isn't saying much. Will continue a few more episodes of GW to see if the stories get any better, but have little hope.

Bright spots are some of the returning shows - Boston Legal, Alias, Desperate Housewives, Lost - but not many of the new shows have been all that great this year.

wonky
10-07-2005, 04:42 PM
I think Threshold won't last much longer, and Invasion might not cut it either. Surface seems to be the only one of the three that might hang in there for awhile.

Based on ratings, I'd think Surface is in the most danger. Invasion is doing the best (not surprising, considering the slot).

Oslo Ostragoth
10-07-2005, 06:32 PM
I'm sorry about this hijack, but OMG...Bart Simpson (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/cartwright.htm) is a scientologist?????
The ones that bug me: Chris and Danny Masterson (sorta young for a cult), Corin Nemec (a Stargate-SG1 guy?), Edgar Winter, Greta Van Susteren, Judy Norton (Mary Ellen Walton), Juliette Lewis (http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/lewis_j.htm) (nice pit-hair).

Odinoneeye
10-07-2005, 08:11 PM
Since I work evenings, i have to make a conscious effort to record shows I want to watch, so I havn't caught much of the new stuff. The only two I have is Invastion and My Name is Earl.

Invasion is losing me.

My Name is Earl has quickly become a must see.

jasg
10-08-2005, 10:11 AM
I'm voting for Ghost Whisperer, with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Kinda like Patricia Arquette, but more top-heavy.New series tagline :"Who you gonna call? Ghost busty!"

Push You Down
10-08-2005, 12:17 PM
"Sex Lies and Secrets"? Already? That was what two episodes? I missed them both. I was looking forward to see places in Silver Lake that I recognize.

AuntiePam
10-08-2005, 12:28 PM
"Prison Break," "Earl," "Supernatural," and "Chris" have all be picked up for a full season.

I haven't watched Prison Break -- probably because I'm in the midst of an Oz marathon via Netflix, and one prison show at a time is plenty.

I really like Earl, Supernatural and Chris and it's not just because of the decent writing. The actors are charismatic and appealing. You could pick them out of a crowd. They don't look or act like the characters in a dozen other shows.

Do you think the major networks will really cancel the other shows that aren't doing so well? Do they have something to replace them?

wonky
10-08-2005, 12:38 PM
Do you think the major networks will really cancel the other shows that aren't doing so well? Do they have something to replace them?

Do you mean specific shows that I've mentioned? If so, it depends on the show.

Take "Threshold" for example. It doesn't have stellar numbers compared with some other shows, but it's doing okay for a Friday at 9 p.m. It's coming in first in its time period, and I think it's coming in 5th for the night in the 18-49 market that all the advertisers always seem to want, and two of the shows ahead of it are on the same network. So, does CBS keep it? My guess is yes--unless it's incredibly expensive to make or they think they have something that will do better, and I doubt they think that.

Joan of Arcadia used to be in CBS's Friday at 8 slot and it did okay in total households but pretty poorly in the 18-49 market, so they yanked it in favor of "Ghostbusty" to borrow from a brilliant person upthread. So far, curse them, I think that strategy is working.

*hate*

Dr. Rieux
10-08-2005, 07:57 PM
I read the blurb of "Commander-in-Chief", ugh. Apparently the President who is dying and handing Davis the job wants her to step down and so just most of her party. So she's going to be fighting her own party as well. Geena against the world. It just seems like it'll be too cheesy.
She's an independent--no party. That's one reason why nobody trusts her.
She seems to have taken the job mainly to prevent Sutherland's character--a real prick--from becoming president.

wonky
10-13-2005, 12:07 PM
In my OP, I picked Commander-In-Chief, E-Ring, and Ghost Whisperer. I'm stickin' with 'em.

Unfortunately for both of us, GW has been picked up for a full season.

Other shows picked up for full seasons: Bones and War at Home (Fox), How I Met Your Mother and Criminal Minds (CBS).

Inconceivable is even closer to outright cancellation.

And it's not a new show, but Simple Life has been canned by Fox.

Governor Quinn
10-13-2005, 12:21 PM
Inconceivable is even closer to outright cancellation.



According to this article, it's already a fait accompli (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/newswire.cgi?id=7002)

Plynck
10-13-2005, 12:49 PM
Other shows picked up for full seasons: Bones ....Wow. I was seriously considering adding this to my list as well. Does television really need another forensic pathology show? :dubious:

Of the three "Alien Invasion" style shows, I have a real liking for "Surface" (okay, not an alien) over "Threshold" and "Invasion" - not that my liking ever makes a damn bit of difference. The guilty grins of the boys when the creature grabbed that dog was a priceless moment. I think that the boy's story is the most likeable of the three plot threads (hence the strained comparisons to Spielberg), and the very brief glimpses of the creatures are effective. Well, we'll see...

wonky
10-13-2005, 03:12 PM
I think that the boy's story is the most likeable of the three plot threads (hence the strained comparisons to Spielberg), and the very brief glimpses of the creatures are effective. Well, we'll see...

And I hate the boy and hope he dies in a horrible alien accident! Tastes are weird.

HPL
10-13-2005, 03:37 PM
And I hate the boy and hope he dies in a horrible alien accident! Tastes are weird.

Only if the annoying "popular" girls die in an accident first. Or he ends up suicide bombing them all. Then I wouldn't mind losing him.

"Hey, Sis, I got you a new jewerly box. Just wait till I leave the house before you open it"

But it's not that kind of show.

Larry Mudd
10-13-2005, 03:49 PM
I have a real liking for "Surface" (okay, not an alien) over "Threshold" and "Invasion"Me too. The "Surface" critters are aliens, though. In the pilot episode, it's suggested that they arrive on Earth from space. (The show is very much like Wyndham's The Kraken Wakes (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6600042&postcount=4), if you'll forgive my horse-flogging.)

I don't remember ever seeing the networks simultaneously release three series that are so confusingly similar. Which ones have aliens that splash down in the sea? Have amphibious capability? Take over human bodies? Have government coverups? Have action in hurricane-affected areas?

wonky
10-14-2005, 10:41 AM
Only if the annoying "popular" girls die in an accident first. Or he ends up suicide bombing them all. Then I wouldn't mind losing him.

"Hey, Sis, I got you a new jewerly box. Just wait till I leave the house before you open it"

But it's not that kind of show.

More's the pity. :D

Looks like Threshold has some good news. CBS has requested more scripts.

Invasion seems to be having trouble holding on to the huge Lost lead in. I have no idea if ABC will think they can do better.

(Aside: Veronica Mars beat a show! Woo! )

Plynck
11-18-2005, 02:01 PM
Well, we've lost another one. The Night Stalker was cancelled this week. Not much of a surprise there.

::sigh:: My picks aren't panning out for me so far.

From some TV promos I've seen this week, it would seem that there might be a bit of a schedule reorganization (on CBS and ABC, from what I can tell). Good, a lack of faith and self-confidence. All is not lost... :)

Plynck
11-25-2005, 07:19 PM
Looks like Threshold has some good news. CBS has requested more scripts.Ouch. Perhaps for the Threshold Complete DVD Collection with Never Aired Scenes. Or for very expensive Beverly Hills wallpaper.

One member of the ThreshFaceVasion trio has been eliminated. As reported in another thread, Threshold has been cancelled (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/23/AR2005112302415.html).

"Threshold" -- which CBS has yanked because of its low ratings.
Alias, too. Funny, I thought the ratings were higher, but that article is clear that they weren't. I really liked it in its prime. I didn't anticipate this at all this past summer, but it's not much of a surprise after watching what has developed this season. I expect that "karate chopping expectant mom" will soon replace "jumping the shark" in our cultural lexicon...

I just hope that Lost doesn't go the same way. I'm not holding out much hope.

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