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mswas
04-04-2008, 08:04 PM
1. Infected Mushroom - Vicious Delicious
2. Violet Vision - First Sign of Communication
3. Speedy J. - A Shocking Hobby
4. Amon Tobin - Foley Room
5. Eat Static - Science of the Gods
6. Hallucinogen - Twisted
7. Skinny Puppy - VIVIsect VI
8. Mindless Faith - Momentum
9. KMFDM - Symbols
10. Future Sound of London - ISDN

River Hippie
04-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Kraftwerk "Autobahn" ? Old school from my generation.

mswas
04-04-2008, 08:22 PM
Kraftwerk "Autobahn" ? Old school from my generation.

You should burn a book in honor of your 451st post, but what are the other 9?

An Arky
04-04-2008, 08:51 PM
I think Radioactivity was awesome! But I couldn't fill out another nine to save my life. :o

Yookeroo
04-04-2008, 11:35 PM
In no particular order:
The Chemical Brothers - Come With Us
Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
Moby - Play
Shpongle - Are You Shpongled?
The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
Daft Punk - Homework
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2
BT - This Binary Universe
Kraftwerk - Radioactivity
New Order - Substance

I guess. This leaves a lot of stuff out (Prodigy, Junkie XL, Tiësto, Sasha, 808 State, Fatboy Slim, Jam & Spoon, Paul van Dyk etc.)

ZebraShaSha
04-04-2008, 11:51 PM
Does Suicide count? They are more industrial, I guess, but Suicide's debut is a classic.

mswas
04-04-2008, 11:58 PM
Hmm I don't know Suicide, but I would count Industrial. Do they use lots of synths or samplers?

Yookeroo I meant to put Shpongle - Nothing Lasts...but Nothing is Lost

An honorable mention goes to Younger Brother's - Last Days of Gravity

ZebraShaSha
04-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Hmm I don't know Suicide, but I would count Industrial. Do they use lots of synths or samplers?

Yookeroo I meant to put Shpongle - Nothing Lasts...but Nothing is Lost

An honorable mention goes to Younger Brother's - Last Days of Gravity

Suicide. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_%28band%29) Basically, they were synth pioneers, working along side the punks of the day. Their debut (1977) is strange, nihilistic, and unquestionably brutal, but it is still an amazing album. Probably not as influential as Kraftwerk, but a close second. Youtube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRTCqgAkfg)

ETA: Since we don't get many electronic threads on the Dope, have you heard the new Crystal Castles? (http://www.myspace.com/crystalcastles) Not best electronic album of all time, but best of 2008 for me atleast.

Octalcode
04-05-2008, 08:34 AM
All I have is Larry Fast - Synergy. Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra.
Released in 1975. It was fascinating at the time.
Here is a link to information about how it was recorded, and equipment used.

http://synergy-emusic.com/erro.html

Biffy the Elephant Shrew
04-05-2008, 11:17 AM
Columbia-Princeton Electronic Music Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia-Princeton_Electronic_Music_Center_%28album%29)
Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting
Peter Frohmader - Macrocosm
Pierre Henry - Mix 01.0-04.0
The Orb - Live 93 (chosen over other Orb albums by virtue of having the best cover ever)
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
Klaus Schulze - Timewind
Morton Subotnick - Silver Apples of the Moon
Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Frank Zappa - Civilization Phaze III

Key Lime Guy
04-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Would David Bowie's Earthling qualify & be worthy of consideration?

Ichbin Dubist
04-05-2008, 04:25 PM
No love for Stockhausen?

Biffy the Elephant Shrew
04-05-2008, 04:32 PM
No love for Stockhausen?
Gesang der Jünglinge would certainly qualify, but it isn't an album. I can't think of a lot of whole albums of Stockhausen's music that I would characterize as electronic (as opposed to instrumental music that incorporates electronics to greater or lesser degrees).

An Gadaí
04-06-2008, 08:25 PM
Would David Bowie's Earthling qualify & be worthy of consideration?

It was much derided at the time as "Bowie does drum 'n' bass" but there are some great auld tunes on it.

Orbital - Snivilisation (spel?)
Cut/Copy - Bright Like Neon Love
The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
Aphex Twin - Drukqs

I'm sure there's more, but I'm usually into individual Electronic tunes as opposed to albums.

interface2x
04-06-2008, 08:57 PM
Depeche Mode "Black Celebration".

lissener
04-06-2008, 09:08 PM
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View
Nobukazu Takemura: Child's View

tremorviolet
04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
I've been obsessed with Lemon Jelly (http://www.myspace.com/jellyspace2) (MySpace page) lately. Great mellow electronica. I have all three of their albums in heavy rotation right now.

NineToTheSky
04-07-2008, 05:37 AM
There seems to be two schools - old and new. I belong in the former, so:

Moondawn - Klaus Schulze
Join Inn - Ashra Tempel
In Search Of Ancient Gods - Absolute Elsewhere
Tanze der Lemminge - Amon Duul II
Epsilon In Malaysian Pale - Edgar Froese
Katzenmusik - Michael Rother
Anywhere - New Musik
Third - Soft Machine
Alpha Centauri - Tangerine Dream
L' Apocalypse des Animaux - Vangelis

Actually, I could fill the whole list with Klaus Schulze (he's the master), but I 'thought I'd give the others a chance. I also think this list shows electronica in many diverse forms.

I think most of the choices so far in this thread prove that electronic music has yet to hit the mainstream!

MrDibble
04-07-2008, 06:05 AM
Some of mine (one more than 10, I'm afraid), with favourite songs too.
Lots of 80s stuff, also a lot of Mute Records artists there.

Wire - The Ideal Copy - Ahead
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park - Morpheus Laughing
Laibach - Opus Dei - Geburt einer Nation
Pet Shop Boys - Actually - Rent
Erasure - The Circus - The Circus
Depeche Mode - Music For The Masses - Never Let Me Down Again
Nitzer Ebb - That Total Age - The Chant
Yazoo - Upstairs at Eric's - Only You
Kraftwerk - Trans-European Express -The Hall of Mirrors
New Order - Power, Corruption and Lies - Blue Monday
Einstuzende Neubauten - ½ Mensch - Z.N.S.

Boyo Jim
04-07-2008, 06:18 AM
A granddaddy album: I Robot by the Alan Parsons Project.

mswas
04-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Actually, I could fill the whole list with Klaus Schulze (he's the master), but I 'thought I'd give the others a chance. I also think this list shows electronica in many diverse forms.

I think most of the choices so far in this thread prove that electronic music has yet to hit the mainstream!

Well electronica has taken over the mainstream really. Listen to any Justin Timberlake album. The thing is that electronica goes in so many directions that a lot of these acts just can't by nature be mainstream. Also, the culture of electronica doesn't work with mainstream sensibilities. Most electronic music is meant to be mixed by a DJ in a club, and that's the culture. So stuff that's not club worthy can't become a pop hit in the way a rock or pop song can.

KMFDM had radio play in the 90s, as did Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Crystal Method and Orbital.

woodstockbirdybird
04-07-2008, 11:28 AM
Most of mine have already been mentioned, but here's my list (in no order):

1. New Order - Substance
2. Yaz(oo) - Upstairs At Eric's
3. Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album
4. Amon Tobin - Foley Room
5. Tricky - Maxinquaye
6. Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine (just for "The Model" alone)
7. Suicide - Suicide
8. Silver Apples - Silver Apples/Contact
9. Wire - The Ideal Copy (although "Manscape" is an underrated one)
10. Pet Shop Boys - Actually

Hm. No Cabaret Voltaire or Throbbing Gristle?

Ogre
04-07-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm not an aficionado of electronica, but I really enjoyed Portishead's Dummy. Anybody think it might crack the top ten?

Maeglin
04-07-2008, 11:41 AM
Holy crap, I've never heard Vicious Delicious. Mind bringing it up when you guys eventually come over for dinner? ;)

fusoya
04-07-2008, 12:01 PM
I'm amazed. Vicious Delicious is the last album I listened to, before I lent my ipod away last week. Great stuff, but I'm (happily) surprised it was #1 on someone's list.

Personally, I prefer Second Toughest in the Infants above dubnobasswithmyheadman, and would probably be #1 on my list if I had my ipod here to better write one.

Now I need to listen to the new Moby album *ducksandruns*

woodstockbirdybird
04-07-2008, 12:42 PM
I'm not an aficionado of electronica, but I really enjoyed Portishead's Dummy. Anybody think it might crack the top ten?

Damn! Throw Portishead in somewhere on my list. This is what I get for posting before coffee.

ETA: That's Portishead's second album, which I prefer to Dummy.

levdrakon
04-07-2008, 02:01 PM
Sorry, can't think of albums or a top ten but in my view:

Tangerine Dream for making synthesizors into music and getting it accepted.

Gary Numan for popularizing it.

Yello for kicking ass with it.

Ministry 'Twitch' for adding sampling, and making industrial.

The Cure 'Pornography' for being cool and making a few generations of kids dye their hair black and wear mascara.

Qwertyasdfg
04-07-2008, 02:07 PM
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
Boards of Canada - Music has the Right to Children
4hero - Parallel Universe
Prodigy - Experience
Inner City- Big Fun
Orbital - Orbital 2
Basement Jaxx - Rooty
Biosphere - Microgravity
KLF - Chill Out
Prodigy - The Fat of the Land

Kuboydal
04-07-2008, 02:54 PM
It seems none that I have are or listen to are considered 'electronic enough.' For instance, tell if Stereolab applies and I will make a list. Until then, I give a shout out to Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. It's not good, but it's a good way to escape a record contract.

mswas
04-07-2008, 03:46 PM
People are mentioning some good stuff. I am glad someone else like 'Foley Room' as much as I did.

fusoya I wouldn't say it is number 1 of all time, but it's been in heavy rotation lately. I don't know that the list is really in order.

Portishead - Portishead is definitely deserving of a mention. A top ten list is really an imprecise animal. So many things deserve the list, but you have to pair it down. I have gone back and forth between Portishead and Dummy though. They are both fabulous albums. Lately I am back on liking Portishead better.

Maeglin Definitely. We are looking at places up in your area too. ;) The guy from Tsunami sent me a letter asking if I wanted to bid on producing the New York show of Juno Reactor's tour in October. I really considered it and then realized it was unrealistic. I'll definitely try and hit that show though. I regret missing them. When I interviewed Velvet Acid Christ on the same night they played I asked him, "I am missing Juno Reactor to be here, is it worth it?", without missing a beat he said, "No, have you ever seen them live? They have a great set with a huge African drum section." (For those who don't know look up Amampondo) sp?

Infected Mushroom is good live, but unfortunately the only play in New York at the big guido clubs. They're a little too mainstream to be enjoyable live.

Meanwhile, I've been listening to a lot of 'The Wiggles' lately. Which would seem like punishment until you realize the alternative is reading the same stupid book about trains for the 5th time in a row. ;)

mswas
04-07-2008, 03:47 PM
It seems none that I have are or listen to are considered 'electronic enough.' For instance, tell if Stereolab applies and I will make a list. Until then, I give a shout out to Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. It's not good, but it's a good way to escape a record contract.

If it has synths and samplers, it counts.

Maeglin
04-07-2008, 04:03 PM
Maeglin Definitely. We are looking at places up in your area too. ;)

So I hear. Let me know when you have good news.

Infected Mushroom is good live, but unfortunately the only play in New York at the big guido clubs. They're a little too mainstream to be enjoyable live.

Lord yes. I did go see them live at Avalon a few years ago. Unfortunately, it was awful. I am not jealous by nature, but it is not easy to kick back and enjoy the music when the Westchester and Lon Gisland douchebags are constantly groping your wife. I have never had more people try to start shit with me in a short period in my entire life.

And despite all that, it would have been worth it had their set not sucked. But it did.

Meanwhile, I've been listening to a lot of 'The Wiggles' lately. Which would seem like punishment until you realize the alternative is reading the same stupid book about trains for the 5th time in a row. ;)

I have all of this to look forward to someday. Gee whiz.

woodstockbirdybird
04-07-2008, 04:03 PM
If it has synths and samplers, it counts.

It doesn't, yet it's undoubtedly "electronic". I play my copy whenever I want to clear a party out. Works like a charm.

Kuboydal
04-07-2008, 08:19 PM
1 Kraftwerk- autobahn
2,3,4 Stereolab- Emperor Tomato Ketchup, mars Audiac Quintet, Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements
5, 6 Air- 10,000 Hz Star, Moon Safari
7 Mike Oldfield- Deep breakfast
8 Pink Floyd- Wish You Were Here
dreat, dinner tim

Darth Nader
04-07-2008, 08:56 PM
No Coil? Shame on all of you.

Tool of the Conspiracy
04-07-2008, 10:18 PM
I'm not a big electronic fan, so I'll nominate only three that I don't see mentioned yet:
Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine
Machines of Loving Grace Concentration
Depeche Mode Violator

I love Portishead, but I don't consider them electronic. (Others could say the same about NIN and MLG.)

Fourth Wall
04-08-2008, 04:53 AM
1. Roger Powell - Cosmic Furnace
2. Jan Hammer - The First Seven Days
3. Walter Carlos - Switched-On Bach
4. Todd Rundgren - Initiation (2nd side)
5. Tomita - Snowflakes Are Dancing
6. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
7. Jean Yves (M. Frog) Labat - M. Frog
8. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star
9. Stardrive (Robert Mason) - Intergalactic Trot
10. Larry Fast - Electronic Realizations For Rock Orchestra
11. Malcolm Cecil / Robert Margouleff (TONTO) - Zero Time

Pushkin
04-08-2008, 06:38 AM
Any place for Air (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_%28band%29)?

Death of Rats
04-08-2008, 10:24 AM
A granddaddy album: I Robot by the Alan Parsons Project.

Does a giant, moon-based "laserbeam" really count?

...

what?

...

Oh, the other Alan Parsons Project. :D


Other wise I just want to give a little more love for Kraftwerk and Suicide (Cheree was the song that introduced me to electronica)

Kuboydal
04-08-2008, 10:41 AM
8. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star


I may have seen Todd Rundgren playing piano at a bar last year. Everyone had heard of him... but that was about it. One guy claimed that the mystery person seemed to know all of Rundgren's songs and another guy walked up to him and claimed he was dead.

mswas
04-08-2008, 11:48 AM
I'm not a big electronic fan, so I'll nominate only three that I don't see mentioned yet:
Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine
Machines of Loving Grace Concentration
Depeche Mode Violator

I love Portishead, but I don't consider them electronic. (Others could say the same about NIN and MLG.)

Pretty Hate Machine is certainly an electronic album. Portishead I am unsure how much of it is electronic and how much instrumental. Machines of Loving Grace, particular concentration is a heavily rock album, though I agree it's an amazing album, their best on IMO. Depeche Mode - Violator is the first CD i ever had, and it's always an amazing album.

Darth Nader Music to Play in the Dark is great, but not something I would instantly think of to listen to.

Air is certainly a great band as well. ;)

I'll give an honorable mention to Alien Sex Fiend who puts on a great live show. They were the last thing I saw at Coney Island High here in the city. They are on tour this summer with 6.16 in NYC.

Yookeroo
04-08-2008, 11:57 AM
I love Portishead, but I don't consider them electronic. (Others could say the same about NIN and MLG.)

When I made my list, I was ignoring artists like Portishead & NIN because I was thinking of them as different genres. I was going for a narrower definition of electronic.

But I want to make it clear that I'm not arguing against these choices. I'm not looking to turn the thread into a discussion of what constitutes electronic. That's less interesting than seeing everyone's list. And the lists show a pretty amazing diversity.

mswas
04-08-2008, 12:46 PM
When I made my list, I was ignoring artists like Portishead & NIN because I was thinking of them as different genres. I was going for a narrower definition of electronic.

But I want to make it clear that I'm not arguing against these choices. I'm not looking to turn the thread into a discussion of what constitutes electronic. That's less interesting than seeing everyone's list. And the lists show a pretty amazing diversity.

Yeah, I debated putting KMFDM in for that reason, but Symbols is a highly electronic album. In Industrial circles, KMFDM, NIN and Machines of Loving Grace would be considered, "Coldwave", which is like metal mixed with electronics.

Fourth Wall
04-08-2008, 03:28 PM
I may have seen Todd Rundgren playing piano at a bar last year. Everyone had heard of him... but that was about it. One guy claimed that the mystery person seemed to know all of Rundgren's songs and another guy walked up to him and claimed he was dead.


I would assume that someone who mentioned Lou Reed, Mike Oldfield, and Pink Floyd probably has at least a passing knowledge of who Todd Rundgren is, but I could be wrong because it's obvious from the other lists listed here that the majority of y'all posting are under 35. I imagine my list betrays my age, but considering that all the albums I listed were made within 5 years of the invention of the first Moog synth, I guess my list could be considered Roots Electronica. Some of you youngins' might want to check out some of the stuff I listed if you want to hear where it all started.

ouryL
04-08-2008, 06:23 PM
1. Roger Powell - Cosmic Furnace
2. Jan Hammer - The First Seven Days
3. Walter Carlos - Switched-On Bach
4. Todd Rundgren - Initiation (2nd side)
5. Tomita - Snowflakes Are Dancing
6. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
7. Jean Yves (M. Frog) Labat - M. Frog
8. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star
9. Stardrive (Robert Mason) - Intergalactic Trot
10. Larry Fast - Electronic Realizations For Rock Orchestra
11. Malcolm Cecil / Robert Margouleff (TONTO) - Zero Time


Switched-On Bach by Wendy(nee Walter) Carlos was the Granddaddy of Electronic music. The one that started it all. It won THREE Grammies. :eek:

fusoya
07-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Infected Mushroom is good live, but unfortunately the only play in New York at the big guido clubs. They're a little too mainstream to be enjoyable live.


Yeah, seriously. I saw Infected Mushroom live at Webster Hall in NYC last night, and although their performance was great (it was my first electronic show, so I had no idea what to expect......for being electronic, they had a great guitarist, as well an electric drum kit and a keyboardest whose fingers looked like they should have fallen off within the first 10 minutes) but otherwise it was probably the WORST concert I've ever been to. Webster Hall tries to double as a dance club (you need a colored wristband to enter the concert hall) and between the ravers and concert goers, it was well beyond the fire marshall's limits. Not to mention how cramped that place is, especially on the stairs. Also the AC was dead, and they were charging $5 for tap water. And the show was supposed to start at 11 but they didn't even open the doors until 1230...and when we tried to inquire what was going on, we were rudely told to 'mind your business and wait upstairs or feel free to LEAVE'. When the doors finally did open, there was a stampede that almost turned into a The Who in Cincy incident. And we get inside only to have a really really lame DJ 'perform' for 90 min straight. Rumors started flying that Infected Mushroom wasn't even performing and the club was trying to tire the concertgoers out so we would leave rather than riot or demand refunds. So FINALLY they go on at 2am....and in a way, it was still worth it. I need to start a new thread on worst concert experiences....

Viciouse Delicious definitely deserves to be on the list, btw.

Anastasaeon
07-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Numbered only so I know I got to ten, but in no particular order:

1. Air - Moon Safari (it's the classic for me, while all their other albums are impressive enough, I adore the first one best)

2. Assemblage 23 - Storm

3. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92

4. Pet Shop Boys - Very

5. Sterolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup

6. Doktor Kosmos - I'm having a hard time picking one in particular. I'm almost feeling cheeky enough to say Cocktail, but not quite. I'll just let it hang there.

7. KMFDM - I'll go with Symbols, but I'm fast becoming a big fan of Hau Ruck.

8. Pig - Toss up between Geniune American Monster and Praise the Lard.

9. Ministry - yeah, I'll get behind Twitch. Heh.

10. There are so many other good bands out there to choose from, but because I haven't seen them mentioned, and I know it's cheeeeeeeese, but I'll throw them a bone: Razed in Black - Damaged. There, I said it. You know my horrible guilty pleasure.

I'm using a fairly loose definition of electronic for this list, as likely noted.

Eutychus
07-07-2008, 06:11 AM
Gesang der Jünglinge would certainly qualify, but it isn't an album. I can't think of a lot of whole albums of Stockhausen's music that I would characterize as electronic (as opposed to instrumental music that incorporates electronics to greater or lesser degrees).

Well, there's the Wednesday Greeting from Mittag aus Licht.

And one vote for the obscure Beaver and Krause "In a Wild Sanctuary"

Maeglin
07-07-2008, 08:57 AM
Yeah, seriously. I saw Infected Mushroom live at Webster Hall in NYC last night....

Despite what I posted above about my experience seeing Infected Mushroom, I gave some serious thought to going to this show. I did not make it.

Bullet dodged.

aldiboronti
07-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Let's not forget the originals, the grandfathers of electronic music in rock.

The United States of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_United_States_of_America_(band))

Only one album, released in 1967, but it was a classic.

fusoya
07-07-2008, 10:31 AM
Despite what I posted above about my experience seeing Infected Mushroom, I gave some serious thought to going to this show. I did not make it.

Bullet dodged.

If they ever do come back around this way again, I would highly recommend seeing them, just as long as it's a venue you're familiar with......I can personally vouch for the Bowery Ballroom, NorthSix, Southpaw, Warsaw, Roseland (although that place has crazy expensive drinks too), The Knitting Factory, and Nokia (probably my favorite venue in the city now) within NYC as places I could see them playing at. Irving Plaza used to be fine (although that wooden floor gets pretty uncomfortable to stand/mosh on after a while) but since The Fillmore took it over, I have no idea how they're running things now.

For the record, this was the setlist:

Riders on the Storm (The Doors cover)
Cities of the Future
Deeply Disturbed
(brand new song)
Muse Breako RMX
Suliman
IM the Supervisor (brought out these neon umbrella dancers, who stuck around for the rest of the main set)
Becoming Insane
Vicious Delicious
Special Place
----
I Wish (WAY WAY more rocking an intense live than on the album!)
---
Converting vegetarians

FoieGrasIsEvil
07-07-2008, 11:38 AM
I can't think of ten, but I am surprised that Crystal Method didn't make anyone's lists.

1. Crystal Method Las Vegas
2. Prodigy Fat Of The Land
3. Chemical Brothers Dig Your Own Hole
4. KMFDM Symbols
5. NIN Pretty Hate Machine, Downard Spiral and Broken

That's about the extent of my knowledge as far as full length electronica recordings go. I have a few compilation CD's with the likes of the Propellerheads, Atari Teenage Riot, etc on there that I like a lot but I don't own any of their full-length stuff.

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