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Diogenes the Cynic
11-19-2010, 12:47 AM
Not bad. An episode where Michael showed a little bit of growth, or at least some acceptance of reality about Ryan. I liked the way Pam talked to him, being direct and honest, but not snarky or mean. Just really telling Michael what he needed to hear. Ryan didn't seem too offended about Michael saying he was self centered and lazy.

The B story was kind of dumb, though it might be interesting to see if the Angela storyline goes anywhere, and I chuckled at Kevin getting lost in the maze.

My favorite line was Michael talking about employees being "sent" to him:

"Ryan was sent to me as a temp. Andy was transferred here. I have no idea where Creed came from."

Hasn't Creed said that he basically took somebody else's identity?

Sleeps With Butterflies
11-19-2010, 03:06 AM
That was easy. Give me a hard one. :: pause :: That's what Oscar said!

Made me laugh

hogarth
11-19-2010, 07:26 AM
"Ryan was sent to me as a temp. Andy was transferred here. I have no idea where Creed came from."

Hasn't Creed said that he basically took somebody else's identity?
In the episode "The Carpet" (where Todd Packer took a dump on Michael's floor), Creed said that Ed Truck hired him.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 07:41 AM
Hasn't Creed said that he basically took somebody else's identity?

"He was never heard from again. And do you know what his name was? Creed Bratton"
(While double checking this, I found that there is a musician named Creed Bratton...that looks just like him)

Do all the branches have the same IT guy? I thought it was odd that Andy was familiar with the IT guy from 8 years ago.

corkboard
11-19-2010, 08:51 AM
BIGBOOBZ (with a Z).

Skammer
11-19-2010, 09:11 AM
Good episode, but could have used more Erin and Creed.

Acsenray
11-19-2010, 09:24 AM
The IT guy wasn't assigned to any particular branch, like a traveling salesman.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 09:25 AM
BIGBOOBZ (with a Z).

"Are you really trying bigb-"
"I'm in"

Sleeps With Butterflies
11-19-2010, 09:42 AM
(While double checking this, I found that there is a musician named Creed Bratton...that looks just like him)

It is him. He was with a band before a lot of us were born. I think they might have only had one hit, but I remember reading an interview with him about it.

msmith537
11-19-2010, 09:50 AM
I liked Jim's prank on Gabe after the credits.

"I just wanted to say I think I had a really productive day!"

Biffy the Elephant Shrew
11-19-2010, 10:15 AM
It is him. He was with a band before a lot of us were born. I think they might have only had one hit, but I remember reading an interview with him about it.

The Grass Roots were actually pretty big in the '60s and early '70s. They had three singles reach the Top 10 plus numerous lesser hits. "Midnight Confessions" and "Temptation Eyes" are probably their best remembered songs today.

Sleeps With Butterflies
11-19-2010, 10:22 AM
Good to know. I don't think I've heard of either of those songs.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 10:23 AM
It is him. He was with a band before a lot of us were born. I think they might have only had one hit, but I remember reading an interview with him about it.

I suppose if I had spent 13 more seconds reading I would realized this. I even knew Creed Bratton was his IRL name.

Is this him singing?

Rafe Hollister
11-19-2010, 10:24 AM
I liked the premise(s) in this episode, but the website name???? Come on, the spelling was stretching it just a bit. I think if most people were truly trying to spell it, they'd use "WOOF" or something of the sort. "WUPHF" was conveniently the acronym for Washington University Public Health Foundation. Maybe it's just because I'm in public health, but as soon as Ryan said Washington University was interested in buying, I knew immediately it was for the domain name because it started with WU and told Mrs. Hollister it was Washington University Public Health Foundation.

I don't want Angela to dump Dwight. There's too much good stuff there. Downtrodden Dwight is not nearly as interesting and entertaining as Dwight the Stud. He was just sad when Angela and Andy were engaged.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 10:28 AM
I liked the premise(s) in this episode, but the website name???? Come on, the spelling was stretching it just a bit. I think if most people were truly trying to spell it, they'd use "WOOF" or something of the sort. "WUPHF" was conveniently the acronym for Washington University Public Health Foundation.

The Wuphf thing started last season, long before that joke. I think they worked that joke around WUPHF and not the other way around.

"Ryan, you have a wuphf on line 1"

Diogenes the Cynic
11-19-2010, 10:36 AM
My assumption was that "woof" was already taken, and that "wuphf" was the only iteration Ryan could find that was available.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 10:43 AM
My assumption was that "woof" was already taken, and that "wuphf" was the only iteration Ryan could find that was available.

IIRC it stood for something.

MyFootsZZZ
11-19-2010, 10:54 AM
It's 'Washington University Public Health Funds'

"The world shines on Mose."

Good episode.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 11:07 AM
I suppose if I had spent 13 more seconds reading I would realized this. I even knew Creed Bratton was his IRL name.

Is this him singing?

(Hmmm, thought I posted a youtube link)

Here he is, he's on the left
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co&feature=related

MyFootsZZZ
11-19-2010, 11:07 AM
"He was never heard from again. And do you know what his name was? Creed Bratton"
(While double checking this, I found that there is a musician named Creed Bratton...that looks just like him)

Do all the branches have the same IT guy? I thought it was odd that Andy was familiar with the IT guy from 8 years ago.

Andy was making a joke about his or her name being Lozenge, I think.

Now that there's a cap on commissions, might Jim be making more money as a manager?? Wasn't that why he wanted the sales job in the first place?

Joey P
11-19-2010, 11:35 AM
Andy was making a joke about his or her name being Lozenge, I think.
That's what my sister just said. She also pointed out that he once called Ryan 'Fire Guy' even though he wasn't there when that happened. He just likes to fit in.

Dewey Finn
11-19-2010, 11:53 AM
Now that there's a cap on commissions, might Jim be making more money as a manager?? Wasn't that why he wanted the sales job in the first place?
Yes, when Gabe said that that Sabre didn't want both Michael and Jim as co-managers, Jim looked at the sales commission structure and immediately volunteered to return to sales. And actually, I was wondering if Pam is still technically in sales, perhaps he could throw his sales over to her, so that she could record the commissions under her name.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Yes, when Gabe said that that Sabre didn't want both Michael and Jim as co-managers, Jim looked at the sales commission structure and immediately volunteered to return to sales. And actually, I was wondering if Pam is still technically in sales, perhaps he could throw his sales over to her, so that she could record the commissions under her name.

That's what I figured would happen, but then we wouldn't have this premise to work on for a week or so.
I assume they'll change it. If Jim hit his, it's safe to assume that Dwight already has or will soon. If they lose two of their best salespeople until the next year/fiscal year/period they'll have to make a change.

DigitalC
11-19-2010, 12:42 PM
Did anyone else think Michael had a good point in not wanting to sell? There are risks when investing on a start up, if they didn't think WUPHF.com was a good idea to begin with they wouldn't have put up the money. Besides, it didn't seem like a terrible idea i can see a lot of people who use all those websites already liking it.

Joey P
11-19-2010, 12:46 PM
Did anyone else think Michael had a good point in not wanting to sell? There are risks when investing on a start up, if they didn't think WUPHF.com was a good idea to begin with they wouldn't have put up the money. Besides, it didn't seem like a terrible idea i can see a lot of people who use all those websites already liking it.

Michael invested because he thought Ryan was his best friend. Pam...well, Pam also quit her job to join The Michael Scott Paper Company, I'm not sure I'd take her financial advice.
Also, don't forget, Ryan is good at selling this kind of thing.

Diogenes the Cynic
11-19-2010, 01:04 PM
I thought Michael made it clear that he knew (or at least had come to realize after his talk with pam) that Ryan was not his friend, but that he still believed Ryan had some innate cleverness and ingenuity and might have a chance to make his Kelly's idea work.

It also worked that he essentially put Ryan on the spot and left him nothing more to hide behind or manipulate. "You have nine days." That forced Ryan to actually have to strongly self-evaluate and see reality.

MyFootsZZZ
11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
Michael invested because he thought Ryan was his best friend. Pam...well, Pam also quit her job to join The Michael Scott Paper Company, I'm not sure I'd take her financial advice.
Also, don't forget, Ryan is good at selling this kind of thing.

Yeah, I think Ryan got Pam to give him money as a wedding gift, saying it was an investment.

I don't know why Darryl invested, or at what point he and everyone else wanted to get out of the investment. He said problem wasn't with the idea, it was with Ryan. I don't think they trusted him. He must not have trusted himself, because he sold it.

I have a 'wuphf.com' kind of idea of my own... *sigh*

MyFootsZZZ
11-19-2010, 01:13 PM
That's right, he asked for more money because he didn't have enough for more than nine days.

Rigamarole
11-19-2010, 08:26 PM
I thought Michael made it clear that he knew (or at least had come to realize after his talk with pam) that Ryan was not his friend, but that he still believed Ryan had some innate cleverness and ingenuity and might have a chance to make his Kelly's idea work.

It also worked that he essentially put Ryan on the spot and left him nothing more to hide behind or manipulate. "You have nine days." That forced Ryan to actually have to strongly self-evaluate and see reality.

Also Michael grew up a lot when he grilled Ryan and realized that he wasn't in fact his friend and what Pam said was true. People last week were complaining about petty Michael and how much they want to see some character development before the end and this was exactly that IMO.

What the .... ?!?!
11-20-2010, 08:55 AM
That's right, he asked for more money because he didn't have enough for more than nine days.

I'm surprised they didn't give him more grief on the way he spent the money they had given him...... t-shirts, condoms, etc.

Quercus alba
11-20-2010, 10:52 AM
I'm surprised they didn't give him more grief on the way he spent the money they had given him...... t-shirts, condoms, etc.

I got kind of the sense of "Eh...we knew who we were dealing with when we flushed the money down the toilet, but it was worth a try...sort of..."

psychonaut
11-20-2010, 11:47 AM
(Hmmm, thought I posted a youtube link)

Here he is, he's on the left
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co&feature=related

This appears to be the same video, but in colour. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySjxZDT_5SA&NR=1)

Biffy the Elephant Shrew
11-20-2010, 12:06 PM
Did everyone see the clip (http://www.hulu.com/watch/180604/the-office-simple-instructions-to-wuphfcom#x-4,cClips,4,0) from a couple of months ago where Ryan explained how to set up a WUPHF account?

Joey P
11-20-2010, 12:24 PM
Did everyone see the clip (http://www.hulu.com/watch/180604/the-office-simple-instructions-to-wuphfcom#x-4,cClips,4,0) from a couple of months ago where Ryan explained how to set up a WUPHF account?

Hadn't seen that. I think his hurdles with getting this to take off are A)It costs the user money while all the other social networking sites are free and B)A pager is required (see the little asterisk there).

Merijeek
11-20-2010, 12:53 PM
Also Michael grew up a lot when he grilled Ryan and realized that he wasn't in fact his friend and what Pam said was true. People last week were complaining about petty Michael and how much they want to see some character development before the end and this was exactly that IMO.

Well, sure. The problem is that we see these occasional episodes where Michael acts like an adult with some value as a person, and then we get another one where he's cutting the cable line to Gabe's apartment.

If they'd just managed to make it where he consistently grew for just this last season it would have been nice.

-Joe

Yorikke
11-20-2010, 09:05 PM
I liked Jim's prank on Gabe after the credits.

"I just wanted to say I think I had a really productive day!"

Was this the payoff to the scene in which Jim was making voice clips from Kathy Bates' book? I missed it, what was the prank?

Joe

Acsenray
11-20-2010, 09:13 PM
Jim took the audio version of Jo's book, read by Jo herself, and spliced together an introduction that made it sound like she was calling Gabe up to have him listen to some changes she had made in her autobiography. In reality, Gabe's going to have to sit there at his desk and listen to the whole audiobook on the telephone.

Quercus alba
11-21-2010, 03:12 PM
Well, sure. The problem is that we see these occasional episodes where Michael acts like an adult with some value as a person, and then we get another one where he's cutting the cable line to Gabe's apartment.

If they'd just managed to make it where he consistently grew for just this last season it would have been nice.

-Joe

People don't grow consistently in real life. Michael let his business/boss-sense drive this moment of maturity with Ryan. He's still a socially-stunted misfit in the unstructured leisure milieu of Gabe's party, though.

Justin_Bailey
11-21-2010, 03:31 PM
People don't grow consistently in real life. Michael let his business/boss-sense drive this moment of maturity with Ryan. He's still a socially-stunted misfit in the unstructured leisure milieu of Gabe's party, though.

The problem with the hissy fit at Gabe's party is that two episodes earlier (the Halloween one), Michael threw a hissy fit because Daryl went over his head and multiple people called him on it. It's such a sore spot because they already showed Michael growing as a person by apologizing to Daryl. making him the same asshole two episodes later is annoying.

And in between, he seemed totally heartbroken that Jim and Pam picked someone else to be the godfather. Pam talking him out of it was the only reason he didn't cause a scene then too. So they showed that he understood these outbursts hurt people he likes.

appleciders
11-21-2010, 04:12 PM
The problem with the hissy fit at Gabe's party is that two episodes earlier (the Halloween one), Michael threw a hissy fit because Daryl went over his head and multiple people called him on it. It's such a sore spot because they already showed Michael growing as a person by apologizing to Daryl. making him the same asshole two episodes later is annoying.

And in between, he seemed totally heartbroken that Jim and Pam picked someone else to be the godfather. Pam talking him out of it was the only reason he didn't cause a scene then too. So they showed that he understood these outbursts hurt people he likes.

And that's fine unless he's a small, petty caricature next week. Otherwise, it's not growth, just inconsistency. And anyway, we've seen him act like an adult in the past, then do something absurd like have a trash-throwing fight in the city dump.

Anyway, Michael was much better in this episode, which is always a plus. I loved the side plot with Jim, and I was lukewarm about the sideplot with Dwight. And the intro clip was good; very mundane and a good satire on bad passwords.

msmith537
11-21-2010, 04:46 PM
Was this the payoff to the scene in which Jim was making voice clips from Kathy Bates' book? I missed it, what was the prank?

Joe

The prank was the spliced together voice clips that ended up being a one-sided call to Gabe from Joe.

"Now listen hear Gabe. You're too fat! No one is going to like you if you're too fat! I made some changes to my book...see if you like them. Now I love reading and hate being interupted...shut up...and listen...you gay bastard! Chapter One...."

enalzi
11-21-2010, 05:44 PM
The prank was the spliced together voice clips that ended up being a one-sided call to Gabe from Joe.

"Now listen hear Gabe. You're too fat! No one is going to like you if you're too fat! I made some changes to my book...see if you like them. Now I love reading and hate being interupted...shut up...and listen...you gay bastard! Chapter One...."

Was I the only one expecting that Jim was going to edit it to have Jo tell Gabe that there's no more commission cap? I was pretty surprised (and I think the joke was better) that it ended up being Gabe having to listen to the entire book.

Acsenray
11-21-2010, 07:30 PM
That was my assumption as well.

Renifer
11-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Andy seems a lot less gullible about investments than he was in the Dinner Party (when Michael was trying to get Andy and Jim to invest in Jan's candle's).

Michael's inconsistency could be that he deals out different reactions for different people. He apologized to Darryl because he thinks Darryl is cool and he respects Jim and Pam enough to try not to ruin their baby's christening. OTOH, he does not like Gabe too much. Like Toby, Gabe is a buzzkill.
Possibly, if the party were at Jim's or at the house of somebody he liked, he wouldn't have messed with the telly.

Merijeek
11-22-2010, 10:08 AM
Andy seems a lot less gullible about investments than he was in the Dinner Party (when Michael was trying to get Andy and Jim to invest in Jan's candle's).

Well, back then Andy was in 100% suckup mode, too. If Michael had an idea it would have been obviously brilliant. Both Andy and Dwight seem to have realized that you don't get ahead by kissing up to someone with no actual power.

-Joe

appleciders
11-22-2010, 10:49 AM
Was I the only one expecting that Jim was going to edit it to have Jo tell Gabe that there's no more commission cap? I was pretty surprised (and I think the joke was better) that it ended up being Gabe having to listen to the entire book.

Me too.

Joey P
11-22-2010, 11:40 AM
Well, back then Andy was in 100% suckup mode, too. If Michael had an idea it would have been obviously brilliant. Both Andy and Dwight seem to have realized that you don't get ahead by kissing up to someone with no actual power.

-Joe

That wouldn't have done any good since Gabe can't lift the cap. He could think Jo told him that the cap was removed and tell everyone else the good news but eventually it would be figured out. If accounting submits the sales/hours to corporate before the checks are made, they'd figure it out as soon as they got their first paycheck, otherwise they'd probably figure it out soon after.

Also, I wonder how long before the cap does get lifted. We can only do the "Jim is bored and doesn't have to work" shtick for so long before it gets annoying.

Merijeek
11-22-2010, 12:15 PM
That wouldn't have done any good since Gabe can't lift the cap. He could think Jo told him that the cap was removed and tell everyone else the good news but eventually it would be figured out. If accounting submits the sales/hours to corporate before the checks are made, they'd figure it out as soon as they got their first paycheck, otherwise they'd probably figure it out soon after.

Also, I wonder how long before the cap does get lifted. We can only do the "Jim is bored and doesn't have to work" shtick for so long before it gets annoying.

Well, they only need to let it go to January 1st, and then the cap should be reset.

-Joe

Merijeek
11-22-2010, 12:22 PM
...and now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Dwight spent the day running his ripoff in the parking lot instead of chasing customers...

-Joe

Joey P
11-22-2010, 12:26 PM
Well, they only need to let it go to January 1st, and then the cap should be reset.

-Joe

That would still be a minimum of 5 episodes (if they skip Thanksgiving and Christmas week). It would be a fairly old joke by then unless they find something else for Jim to do in the mean time or find a way around it (recording sales for Pam, Michael and Jim switch positions for a few weeks etc).

Merijeek
11-22-2010, 12:31 PM
That would still be a minimum of 5 episodes (if they skip Thanksgiving and Christmas week). It would be a fairly old joke by then unless they find something else for Jim to do in the mean time or find a way around it (recording sales for Pam, Michael and Jim switch positions for a few weeks etc).

Remember the early seasons? The ones that people always look back on as being the "good" seasons rather than these "wah wah, shark, wah wah" seasons? Pranking Dwight and mooning over Pam was all that Jim ever did!

-Joe

Biffy the Elephant Shrew
11-22-2010, 12:37 PM
Pranking Dwight and mooning over Pam was all that Jim ever did!


"Moon over my Pammy
Shine on my love and me..."

alphaboi867
11-22-2010, 12:39 PM
That wouldn't have done any good since Gabe can't lift the cap. He could think Jo told him that the cap was removed and tell everyone else the good news but eventually it would be figured out. If accounting submits the sales/hours to corporate before the checks are made, they'd figure it out as soon as they got their first paycheck, otherwise they'd probably figure it out soon after...

But it would get Gabe in alot of trouble with corporate and he'd like insane when he tried to explain to Jo that she was the one who called him and told him the cap was lifted.

Merijeek
11-22-2010, 12:52 PM
But it would get Gabe in alot of trouble with corporate and he'd like insane when he tried to explain to Jo that she was the one who called him and told him the cap was lifted.

Sure, but Jim is a minor dick, not a guy that gets people fired. Making Gabe waste an evening listening to a recording is a bit different than getting him fired over a policy he had nothing to do with.

-Joe

Dewey Finn
11-22-2010, 01:09 PM
If Jim were to fake a message from Jo to Gabe rescinding the commission cap, Jim is the one who would be fired. Gabe might be as well, but there's no way that Jim would escape punishment. Making him listen to the audio book is a far more innocuous prank than that.

Acsenray
11-23-2010, 04:27 PM
I just noticed the way that Dwight perked up when Pam said "Lord of the Rings ... stuff?"

And Erin: "Everybody was getting their driver's licenses."

Acsenray
11-29-2010, 10:00 PM
Watching the last two episodes again, I find myself enjoying Kelly's lines the most. I almost think I'm going to miss her more than Mchael next season.

alphaboi867
11-29-2010, 10:34 PM
If Jim were to fake a message from Jo to Gabe rescinding the commission cap, Jim is the one who would be fired. Gabe might be as well, but there's no way that Jim would escape punishment. Making him listen to the audio book is a far more innocuous prank than that.

Well, they'd have to trace it back to Jim to fire him. Of course since Jim set all of this up on his office computer that shouldn't be too hard. :smack:

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